Ben Tate to the Browns? (1 Viewer)

[rizzler]

According to beat writer Jeff Schudel, the Browns have refused to comment on a "rumor" that they've discussed a Ben Tate trade with the Texans.We'd like to see this pass the rumor stage before taking it seriously, but the Browns refusal to comment is interesting. Tate would fill a major need for a play-making power back in Cleveland, and he's blocked by Arian Foster in Houston. After finishing among the NFL leaders in yards per carry and yards after contact per attempt, Tate should fetch at least a second-day draft pick.

and here, not a few months back I actually had to defend against people saying Foster would lose his job to this man.He's shown to be a quality back though, and id love for the Browns to grab him

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I have a bad feeling about this. The Browns don't run the Kubiak/Shannahan system that has made so many backs successful. I'm afraid Tate won't turn out to be the back the Browns are hoping to get.

 

[rizzler]

Well, I mean... how different are Hillis and Tate in their running styles, really?

Hillis had some pretty damn good success behind this line (when he tried). Tate could pull the same.

 

[MAC_32]

Well, I mean... how different are Hillis and Tate in their running styles, really?Hillis had some pretty damn good success behind this line (when he tried). Tate could pull the same.

Tate is quicker to the edge, which is a big part of the run game in the west coast offense.

 

[rizzler]

Well, I mean... how different are Hillis and Tate in their running styles, really?Hillis had some pretty damn good success behind this line (when he tried). Tate could pull the same.

Tate is quicker to the edge, which is a big part of the run game in the west coast offense.

Ya, speed was the one thing that I definitely knew differentiated between them.But overall, they seem similar, bruising, straightline style backs.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

I think the Browns need to draft T-Rich. This has gotten one elite season out of an offense weapon since they returned to the NFL in 99 (Edwards - 07). The top 2 QBs are going to be gone by pick 4, and while Blackmon looks like he'll be a nice WR, T-Rich has the look of a truly elite back. Trading for Tate is just going to send them in a different direction and pencil them in for another anemic offense in 12.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I have a bad feeling about this. The Browns don't run the Kubiak/Shannahan system that has made so many backs successful. I'm afraid Tate won't turn out to be the back the Browns are hoping to get.

Reuben Droughns turned out okay.

 

[Warhogs]

I don't own Tate in any leagues but liked how he filled in. I would like to see him get a shot at a starting job and that won't be happening in Houston barring a Foster injury.

 

[Steed]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

 

[Warhogs]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

It probably depends on the value of his contract which I am not familiar with. If he is an expensive backup it would probably mean it would cost much less. I read something about a 2nd day pick which makes me think his contract is pretty expensive as a backup RB.

 

[humpback]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

It probably depends on the value of his contract which I am not familiar with. If he is an expensive backup it would probably mean it would cost much less. I read something about a 2nd day pick which makes me think his contract is pretty expensive as a backup RB.

7/29/2010: Signed a four-year, $3.337 million contract. The deal contains $1.58 million guaranteed. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free AgentThat's not a lot at all for a quality back-up RB. The only reason Houston should consider trading him is if they get a very good offer, or he's making a stink and wants to be traded.

 

[LawFitz]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

It probably depends on the value of his contract which I am not familiar with. If he is an expensive backup it would probably mean it would cost much less. I read something about a 2nd day pick which makes me think his contract is pretty expensive as a backup RB.

And how much time he has remaining on his current deal.

 

[Touchdown There]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

It probably depends on the value of his contract which I am not familiar with. If he is an expensive backup it would probably mean it would cost much less. I read something about a 2nd day pick which makes me think his contract is pretty expensive as a backup RB.

I think that Steed meant it is a cheap contract for his level of skill. I see no reason for Houston to trade him. If any lesson can be taken from last year, it is that every NFL team needs two stud RBs at a minimum. Look at all the injuries.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

According to beat writer Jeff Schudel, the Browns have refused to comment on a "rumor" that they've discussed a Ben Tate trade with the Texans.We'd like to see this pass the rumor stage before taking it seriously, but the Browns refusal to comment is interesting. Tate would fill a major need for a play-making power back in Cleveland, and he's blocked by Arian Foster in Houston. After finishing among the NFL leaders in yards per carry and yards after contact per attempt, Tate should fetch at least a second-day draft pick.

and here, not a few months back I actually had to defend against people saying Foster would lose his job to this man.He's shown to be a quality back though, and id love for the Browns to grab him

When did anyone say he was taking Fosters job?

 

[RUSF18]

According to beat writer Jeff Schudel, the Browns have refused to comment on a "rumor" that they've discussed a Ben Tate trade with the Texans.We'd like to see this pass the rumor stage before taking it seriously, but the Browns refusal to comment is interesting. Tate would fill a major need for a play-making power back in Cleveland, and he's blocked by Arian Foster in Houston. After finishing among the NFL leaders in yards per carry and yards after contact per attempt, Tate should fetch at least a second-day draft pick.

and here, not a few months back I actually had to defend against people saying Foster would lose his job to this man.He's shown to be a quality back though, and id love for the Browns to grab him

When did anyone say he was taking Fosters job?

Weeks 1-4 of this past season. There were pretty much three factions - those who acknowledged Tate would have a sizable role even with Foster healthy, those that figured it would evolve a 50/50 split, and a yes, a select few who thought Tate would take over once Foster sat and never relinquish.

 

[Warhogs]

According to beat writer Jeff Schudel, the Browns have refused to comment on a "rumor" that they've discussed a Ben Tate trade with the Texans.We'd like to see this pass the rumor stage before taking it seriously, but the Browns refusal to comment is interesting. Tate would fill a major need for a play-making power back in Cleveland, and he's blocked by Arian Foster in Houston. After finishing among the NFL leaders in yards per carry and yards after contact per attempt, Tate should fetch at least a second-day draft pick.

and here, not a few months back I actually had to defend against people saying Foster would lose his job to this man.He's shown to be a quality back though, and id love for the Browns to grab him

When did anyone say he was taking Fosters job?

Weeks 1-4 of this past season. There were pretty much three factions - those who acknowledged Tate would have a sizable role even with Foster healthy, those that figured it would evolve a 50/50 split, and a yes, a select few who thought Tate would take over once Foster sat and never relinquish.

Those opinions were all from people who spent a first round rookie draft pick on him.

 

[GregR]

Texans don't currently have much at backup RB besides Tate. Derrick Ward had proved capable but he's a UFA currently, not to mention getting old.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I really hope this happens. Tate would be an excellent back in Cleveland's system.

Now if the Bengals will just sign Michael Bush...

 

[RUSF18]

With the strength of their OL, you could make the case for signing a truer backup type RB if you can really get great value back for Tate.

 

[GregR]

With the strength of their OL, you could make the case for signing a truer backup type RB if you can really get great value back for Tate.

If they can get a first for him I'd do it.But I'm not sure I'd let him go for much less than that this year. Especially since they released their right tackle, and the center and right guard are currently UFAs.

 

[GroveDiesel]

According to beat writer Jeff Schudel, the Browns have refused to comment on a "rumor" that they've discussed a Ben Tate trade with the Texans.We'd like to see this pass the rumor stage before taking it seriously, but the Browns refusal to comment is interesting. Tate would fill a major need for a play-making power back in Cleveland, and he's blocked by Arian Foster in Houston. After finishing among the NFL leaders in yards per carry and yards after contact per attempt, Tate should fetch at least a second-day draft pick.

and here, not a few months back I actually had to defend against people saying Foster would lose his job to this man.He's shown to be a quality back though, and id love for the Browns to grab him

When did anyone say he was taking Fosters job?

Weeks 1-4 of this past season. There were pretty much three factions - those who acknowledged Tate would have a sizable role even with Foster healthy, those that figured it would evolve a 50/50 split, and a yes, a select few who thought Tate would take over once Foster sat and never relinquish.

Those opinions were all from people who spent a first round rookie draft pick on him.

And people trying to make rizzler's head explode.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

According to beat writer Jeff Schudel, the Browns have refused to comment on a "rumor" that they've discussed a Ben Tate trade with the Texans.We'd like to see this pass the rumor stage before taking it seriously, but the Browns refusal to comment is interesting. Tate would fill a major need for a play-making power back in Cleveland, and he's blocked by Arian Foster in Houston. After finishing among the NFL leaders in yards per carry and yards after contact per attempt, Tate should fetch at least a second-day draft pick.

and here, not a few months back I actually had to defend against people saying Foster would lose his job to this man.He's shown to be a quality back though, and id love for the Browns to grab him

When did anyone say he was taking Fosters job?

Weeks 1-4 of this past season. There were pretty much three factions - those who acknowledged Tate would have a sizable role even with Foster healthy, those that figured it would evolve a 50/50 split, and a yes, a select few who thought Tate would take over once Foster sat and never relinquish.

Those opinions were all from people who spent a first round rookie draft pick on him.

I was one of the main guys pointing out Tate could take the job and run with it if Foster get injured... but I dont remeber anyone saying Foster would lose his job without injury.

 

[Sweet Love]

Texans don't currently have much at backup RB besides Tate. Derrick Ward had proved capable but he's a UFA currently, not to mention getting old.

It really doesn't matter...draft a random guy in the 4-7th rounds and you have you backup in the one-cut system. Obviously I am oversimplifying, but when you consider successful backs in this system include Olandis Gary, Quentin (something), Mike Anderson, Tatum Bell, undrafted Arian Foster and even Ron Dayne, I think you can round up an adequate backup somewhere.

 

[cstu]

I think the Browns need to draft T-Rich. This has gotten one elite season out of an offense weapon since they returned to the NFL in 99 (Edwards - 07). The top 2 QBs are going to be gone by pick 4, and while Blackmon looks like he'll be a nice WR, T-Rich has the look of a truly elite back. Trading for Tate is just going to send them in a different direction and pencil them in for another anemic offense in 12.

I don't think this would preclude them drafting Richardson and in fact having a Richardson/Tate backfield would be a smart way to go since the strength of the team is defense.

 

[Foosball God]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

No team trade's #1 picks for RBs anymore.

 

[Hoosier16]

After Houston spent a 2nd rounder on him, and Tate showing he's a very capable back-up when Arian's out, they'd have to expect a 1st rounder in return. He's an asset that appreciated right? Or is that not how it works? I just don't see Cleveland giving up their late 1st and Houston wouldn't do it for less. He's on a cheap contract too.

No team trade's #1 picks for RBs anymore.

Cleveland also has an early 2nd and I don't see why Houston wouldn't do it for an early 2nd.After he leaves in FA in 2014, the most they will get is a late 3rd as compensation.

 

[Donnybrook]

I don't understand why Cleveland would trade for a running back. This years running back draft class looks pretty good IMO. There is no need to trade for one.

 

[MAC_32]

I don't understand why Cleveland would trade for a running back. This years running back draft class looks pretty good IMO. There is no need to trade for one.

I think there are 3 RB's in this class better than Tate - Richardson, Martin, and Miller. After that? I'd rather trade a 3 for Tate. I'd rather just get Martin or Miller with our 2, but that's risky.Other option would be to sign a guy like Tolbert and then target LaMichael James. Not sure how much James will cost though. I like him as a 3, but not much before then.

 

[Donnybrook]

I don't understand why Cleveland would trade for a running back. This years running back draft class looks pretty good IMO. There is no need to trade for one.

I think there are 3 RB's in this class better than Tate - Richardson, Martin, and Miller. After that? I'd rather trade a 3 for Tate. I'd rather just get Martin or Miller with our 2, but that's risky.Other option would be to sign a guy like Tolbert and then target LaMichael James. Not sure how much James will cost though. I like him as a 3, but not much before then.

I rather have Robert Turbin than Tate and he probably won't be drafted before the 4th round. Trading for Tate before the draft makes no sense to me.

 

[loose circuits]

Texans don't currently have much at backup RB besides Tate. Derrick Ward had proved capable but he's a UFA currently, not to mention getting old.

Javarris Williams is the only other RB under contract so I agree with you

 

[MAC_32]

I don't understand why Cleveland would trade for a running back. This years running back draft class looks pretty good IMO. There is no need to trade for one.

I think there are 3 RB's in this class better than Tate - Richardson, Martin, and Miller. After that? I'd rather trade a 3 for Tate. I'd rather just get Martin or Miller with our 2, but that's risky.Other option would be to sign a guy like Tolbert and then target LaMichael James. Not sure how much James will cost though. I like him as a 3, but not much before then.

I rather have Robert Turbin than Tate and he probably won't be drafted to the 4th round. Trading for Tate before the draft makes no sense to me.

I liked the pre injury version of Turbin a lot more than last year's version. It wouldn't surprise me if he stepped up because it'll be his 2nd year post injury, but we can't look at him as the lead guy - he's got to go into camp competing to be the #2. If he can ball, he'll play, but he needs to do more than he did last year.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I don't understand why Cleveland would trade for a running back. This years running back draft class looks pretty good IMO. There is no need to trade for one.

I think there are 3 RB's in this class better than Tate - Richardson, Martin, and Miller. After that? I'd rather trade a 3 for Tate. I'd rather just get Martin or Miller with our 2, but that's risky.Other option would be to sign a guy like Tolbert and then target LaMichael James. Not sure how much James will cost though. I like him as a 3, but not much before then.

I rather have Robert Turbin than Tate and he probably won't be drafted before the 4th round. Trading for Tate before the draft makes no sense to me.

Turbin over Ben Tate...that's crazy talk.

 

[wadegarrett]

Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabotNothing at all to rumor that Browns will trade for Texans' RB Ben Tate. Zero chance of happening I'm told.

 

[Portis 26]

I love how the Browns refusing to comment on a dumb rumor becomes "they won't deny it"!

If I ring up NASA and ask them if the moon is made of blue cheese and they tell me to shut up, they are also not denying it.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I love how the Browns refusing to comment on a dumb rumor becomes "they won't deny it"!

Ben Tate - RB - TexansThe Texans are not considering trading Ben Tate to the Browns, according to beat writer John McClain.This rumor started gaining steam when the Browns refused to comment on it.

 

[Righetti]

I love how the Browns refusing to comment on a dumb rumor becomes "they won't deny it"!If I ring up NASA and ask them if the moon is made of blue cheese and they tell me to shut up, they are also not denying it.

what ever happened to that thread in the FFA where some dude kept calling NASA every few months

 

[cstu]

Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabotNothing at all to rumor that Browns will trade for Texans' RB Ben Tate. Zero chance of happening I'm told.

In that case I think we have the first four picks in the draft figured out.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabotNothing at all to rumor that Browns will trade for Texans' RB Ben Tate. Zero chance of happening I'm told.

In that case I think we have the first four picks in the draft figured out.

The fact that a made up rumor isn't true doesn't show the Browns draft plans.