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Benching McFadden (1 Viewer)

bleedgreen said:
QuizGuy66 said:
I'm starting McFadden. Unless you have two other really good options, I don't see how you sit him. Even if he doesn't get a lot of yards on the ground, he should get some yards receiving too and at worst should have a mediocre fantasy day of 8 - 10 points.
Depends on the scoring system. I have him in a league where TDs are 6 and it's 1 point for every 25 yards (starting at 50). 22/74/0 = 1 point for me.-QG
One can't account for every scoring system when making an opinion. Hopefully you have some common sense and can make your own decision.
:D :confused:I usually make the wrong one ;) Anyhow, I do tend to look at how a player has performed in my league's scoring system when making my choices - McFadden is actually pretty inconsistent in our format.-QG
 
Mustang Man said:
I am sitting Run DMC. I have AP, A.Foster, J.Charles. No this is not an 8 team league. Saved AP and Charles. Got Foster at 2.1 and DMC in the fourth.I normally play Run DMC but Charles has a juicy matchup.
Nice. Just curious.....What is your record?
 
There have to be tons of teams out there who have 2 other top-15 RBs. Nobody on this board drafted DMC as their RB2 or better.

In my main 12-team competitive league, I drafted Turner & Charles to be my starters. I took Tomlinson as my RB3, Fred Jackson as my RB4 and McFadden in the 9th round. I also drafted Hillis in the last round & picked up Blount before he blew up. I've since traded Hillis, LT, & F-Jax for other help so I have no need to trade DMC away.

Yes, it's been a great RB year for me. I normally start DMC, but I have better options this week.

 
:lol: :unsure:I usually make the wrong one ;) Anyhow, I do tend to look at how a player has performed in my league's scoring system when making my choices - McFadden is actually pretty inconsistent in our format.-QG
Sorry if I sounded rude....I never heard of a system like that for running backs.
 
I think I convinced myself to start mcfadden over best in a ppr league even though most sites have best rated higher on matchups. I also have the steelers defense. I'm curious to see if the defense responds after the Pats game or not. I don't think Mcfadden will have as much luck running as BJGE did because he doesn't have Brady to worry the steelers. But I'm hoping Oakland makes him the focus of their offense and just by the sheer number of touches he should outperform best who has been hobbling.

 
I'm betting anyone benching McFadden for less than stellar options this week regrets it, and I say that as both a Steelers fan and as the only McFadden owner my dynasty league has ever known. A few main reasons:

1) The Steelers' run defense just is not the same without Aaron Smith. The three opponents since his injury (NO, CIN, NE) have focused on the passing game, but look at how well Green-Ellis fared last week. I suspect a team with a talented RB that really wants to run on us will find a way to do so with 2/3 DL starters out.

2) It's pretty obvious now that the best way to beat the Steelers includes a good mix of short passes. That typically favors slot receivers and TEs, but I'd expect McFadden to be a part of the Raiders' game plan in that regard.

I'm not expecting a repeat of what McFadden did in Denver, but I think he'll surpass 80 yards on the ground, haul in at least 5 or 6 receptions for 30-40 yards and find the end zone at least once. That's a fairly good day in my league.

 
Am I benching McFadden? The answer is a big NO. I am not benching McFadden. Not even considering it. The matchups are supposed to be used ONLY to break a tie of like players (or at least somewhat similar players). You do not bench RBs of this caliber unless you have another stud. If you sit studs from week to week based on matchups you may on guess right on occasion but more often than not you are going to get burned.

Play your studs regardless of matchups, and McFadden is a stud this year, unless you have a comparable player.

 
:lol: :goodposting:I usually make the wrong one ;) Anyhow, I do tend to look at how a player has performed in my league's scoring system when making my choices - McFadden is actually pretty inconsistent in our format.-QG
Sorry if I sounded rude....I never heard of a system like that for running backs.
Old school. Started out TD-only.Then added 3-point bonus for 100 yards.Then changed to 3-point bonus for 100 yards and 2 points for each additional 50 yards.Then changed to 1-point bonus for 50 yards and 1 point for each additional 25 yards.All the systems that have teams scoring 200.53 points every week seem strange to me :) No worries, man. Horses for courses.-QG
 
I'm betting anyone benching McFadden for less than stellar options this week regrets it, and I say that as both a Steelers fan and as the only McFadden owner my dynasty league has ever known. A few main reasons:1) The Steelers' run defense just is not the same without Aaron Smith. The three opponents since his injury (NO, CIN, NE) have focused on the passing game, but look at how well Green-Ellis fared last week. I suspect a team with a talented RB that really wants to run on us will find a way to do so with 2/3 DL starters out. 2) It's pretty obvious now that the best way to beat the Steelers includes a good mix of short passes. That typically favors slot receivers and TEs, but I'd expect McFadden to be a part of the Raiders' game plan in that regard.I'm not expecting a repeat of what McFadden did in Denver, but I think he'll surpass 80 yards on the ground, haul in at least 5 or 6 receptions for 30-40 yards and find the end zone at least once. That's a fairly good day in my league.
I think DMC owners should NOT look at BJGE's performance last week as any indication of future DMC success.NE went pass first and out schemed Pitt's D. The few times NE did run, Pitt was simply caught off guard.I wouldn't expect that J. Campbell and company will be able to duplicate this same gameplan with their cast of characters at WR. They just can't. Their offensive profile is what it is...run the ball with DMC/Bush and leverage their offensive line. This will be more of a strength vs. strength situation.I think the big question here is what is the status of Troy P? If he's banged up, then maybe DMC has a better than average chance here to perform above expectations.I'm a DMC owner. I'm starting him. I'm expecting his value to be driven more by the pass vs. run in a PPR league. Prediction:17-576-3850% chance of a TD either rushing or receivingIn PPR, that's 11 pts minus TD or 17 with...so split the difference...14 points.KY
 
the Raiders usually give Pit a good game the past couple of meetings. Polamalu is nicked up, Timmons is nicked up, both starting DEs are hurt, and I expect the DL of the Raiders to dominate the OL of Pitt.

I am totally playing DMC

 
No doubt it's a tough match up. I think he will be heavily involved in the passing game. In a PPR he is a definite starter. If you are fortunate enough to have 3 quality RB's, you may a better option. My 3RB is Greene. DMC will be in my lineup!

 
In my PPR league I am starting Mendy and Turner. For flex I could start Austin or DMC. I am totally starting McFadden and I feel good about it.

 
I'm starting three RB's this week. Turner, Charles and DMC. I have DMC in the flex position. It was DMC or a TE (Vernon Davis) . I'm going with DMC but I have to say my fingers are crossed. I picked up DMC off waivers when he was hurt and held him waiting for his return. The Denver game certainly made the wait worthwhile. I'm in a 12 team league.

Davis had two touchdowns called back last week due to SF penalties. SF plays TB who is not exactly known for their sacking abilities.

 
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Trumpey said:
I'm betting anyone benching McFadden for less than stellar options this week regrets it, and I say that as both a Steelers fan and as the only McFadden owner my dynasty league has ever known. A few main reasons:1) The Steelers' run defense just is not the same without Aaron Smith. The three opponents since his injury (NO, CIN, NE) have focused on the passing game, but look at how well Green-Ellis fared last week. I suspect a team with a talented RB that really wants to run on us will find a way to do so with 2/3 DL starters out. 2) It's pretty obvious now that the best way to beat the Steelers includes a good mix of short passes. That typically favors slot receivers and TEs, but I'd expect McFadden to be a part of the Raiders' game plan in that regard.I'm not expecting a repeat of what McFadden did in Denver, but I think he'll surpass 80 yards on the ground, haul in at least 5 or 6 receptions for 30-40 yards and find the end zone at least once. That's a fairly good day in my league.
This. Are people really going to bench McFadden when BJGE went for 125 combined yards against this defense last week?
 
Trumpey said:
I'm betting anyone benching McFadden for less than stellar options this week regrets it, and I say that as both a Steelers fan and as the only McFadden owner my dynasty league has ever known. A few main reasons:1) The Steelers' run defense just is not the same without Aaron Smith. The three opponents since his injury (NO, CIN, NE) have focused on the passing game, but look at how well Green-Ellis fared last week. I suspect a team with a talented RB that really wants to run on us will find a way to do so with 2/3 DL starters out. 2) It's pretty obvious now that the best way to beat the Steelers includes a good mix of short passes. That typically favors slot receivers and TEs, but I'd expect McFadden to be a part of the Raiders' game plan in that regard.I'm not expecting a repeat of what McFadden did in Denver, but I think he'll surpass 80 yards on the ground, haul in at least 5 or 6 receptions for 30-40 yards and find the end zone at least once. That's a fairly good day in my league.
This. Are people really going to bench McFadden when BJGE went for 125 combined yards against this defense last week?
:boxing:
 
Does it matter if he only runs for 30... but catches 70-80 yards worth of passes?

Steelers are banged up... I'm playin' him.

 
This thread did nothing to clear up my situation. I've been getting by with SJax and a combo of Torain and BJGE for the past 5 weeks with Moreno on my bench. Last week I traded for McFadden (using BJGE) with the idea that after the byes, I was set with SJax and DMC. Now Moreno looks very enticing for this one week, but I would have to bench SJax or DMC for him? Uggh.

 
This thread did nothing to clear up my situation. I've been getting by with SJax and a combo of Torain and BJGE for the past 5 weeks with Moreno on my bench. Last week I traded for McFadden (using BJGE) with the idea that after the byes, I was set with SJax and DMC. Now Moreno looks very enticing for this one week, but I would have to bench SJax or DMC for him? Uggh.
That's the guy I'm deciding on possibly playing over DMC. The more it's a TD-reliant league, the more I'd probably lean to Moreno if that helps you any. What makes DMC more difficult to gage is that Bush could vulture goal-line work.As much as everyone else has pointed to the BJGE game, I'm not quite sure the comparison is really apt. You have to figure that Pittsburgh keyed it's game plan to containing Brady and Welker - they were surely less afraid of BJGE going in. I think the script for the Oakland game is different in that the Steelers defense will be keying on the run first and will try to force Oakland to beat them through the air.Of course this isn't the AC forum so there's that <_< -QG
 
Trumpey said:
I'm betting anyone benching McFadden for less than stellar options this week regrets it, and I say that as both a Steelers fan and as the only McFadden owner my dynasty league has ever known. A few main reasons:1) The Steelers' run defense just is not the same without Aaron Smith. The three opponents since his injury (NO, CIN, NE) have focused on the passing game, but look at how well Green-Ellis fared last week. I suspect a team with a talented RB that really wants to run on us will find a way to do so with 2/3 DL starters out. 2) It's pretty obvious now that the best way to beat the Steelers includes a good mix of short passes. That typically favors slot receivers and TEs, but I'd expect McFadden to be a part of the Raiders' game plan in that regard.I'm not expecting a repeat of what McFadden did in Denver, but I think he'll surpass 80 yards on the ground, haul in at least 5 or 6 receptions for 30-40 yards and find the end zone at least once. That's a fairly good day in my league.
This. Are people really going to bench McFadden when BJGE went for 125 combined yards against this defense last week?
:unsure:
I don't have much faith in a Jason Campbell led offense sustaining drives against the Steelers D. I knew Brady & Co would dink and dunk the Steelers to death and softening up the run later in the game. I don't see the Raiders having success doing that.
 
Count me among the people who think the Steeler's D shuts down Oakland's run game.

I'm starting Run-DMC anyway in my PPR league because he'll haul in 6-8 swing passes and (hopefully) score a garbage TD.

The Steelers are going to play angry this week. After that embarrassing effort against the Pats I see them knocking the snot out of Oakland to prove to league (and themselves) that they're still an elite team. Basically, they'll do the same thing to the Raiders that the Pats did to the Steelers after their embarrassing loss in Cleveland.

 
Count me among the people who think the Steeler's D shuts down Oakland's run game. I'm starting Run-DMC anyway in my PPR league because he'll haul in 6-8 swing passes and (hopefully) score a garbage TD. The Steelers are going to play angry this week. After that embarrassing effort against the Pats I see them knocking the snot out of Oakland to prove to league (and themselves) that they're still an elite team. Basically, they'll do the same thing to the Raiders that the Pats did to the Steelers after their embarrassing loss in Cleveland.
I think a lot of people think this, but as it goes in the NFL. Expect the unexpected. Rarely do above average football teams(and that's what the raiders are this year when healthy) get the snot beat out of them coming off of a bye week.
 
I am benching him for Rice, Jennings, Bowe and White in PPR. Crazy?
That's a lot of trust in a guy who's being activated for the first time this year. Unless you mean Ray Rice...-QG
 
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dharmapunk said:
Count me among the people who think the Steeler's D shuts down Oakland's run game.

I'm starting Run-DMC anyway in my PPR league because he'll haul in 6-8 swing passes and (hopefully) score a garbage TD.

The Steelers are going to play angry this week. After that embarrassing effort against the Pats I see them knocking the snot out of Oakland to prove to league (and themselves) that they're still an elite team. Basically, they'll do the same thing to the Raiders that the Pats did to the Steelers after their embarrassing loss in Cleveland.
It feels weird saying this - being a homer - but didn't these same empty promises come last season? Coach Tomlin promised to "unleash he[[" following the loss to CIN, and the Steelers responded with consecutive losses to; KCC, BAL, OAK (at home), and CLE... Ravens being the only team in that bunch that was not a proven loser in 2009.DE Smith is out, DE Keisel is out, and Poly has a hammy to boot.

 
Well I was debating between Moreno and DMC. The more I looked at it, DMC is playing the best in his career. He has been making the tough runs and playing solid. Is he playing like a RB1 right now? Absolutely... So I am falling back to the old adage, "Never bench your studs." He's playing like a stud, gotta go with him....

.. Never thought I would see that from a 12th round pick... but the facts are the facts!

 
So far, starting DMC not looking so good. Perhaps he will get some dink and dunk passes here in the second half.

 
QuizGuy66 said:
TWP said:
I am benching him for Rice, Jennings, Bowe and White in PPR. Crazy?
That's a lot of trust in a guy who's being activated for the first time this year. Unless you mean Ray Rice...-QG
Yeah Ray Rice, sorry. Looking like the right call all around... Sorry guys who said DMC was unbenchable.
 
I did not expect a great game. I thought the Raiders O-Line would allow DMC to get 50-60 yards. Campbell is really that bad though and allowed the Steelers to stack the box and key McFadden. I am very surprised at the lack of screens and passes in the flat to DMC.

 
Funny story...anyone who has kids or uses a smart phone would appreciate this. Decided last minute when I was out with the kids to change Keller for Tamme (was worried about Tamme's back) and started to fumble around on Yahoo changing the lineup. Came back home to find out, I not only changes Tamme for Keller, but also Deon Butler for McFadden...almost fell over. Well in my PPR, 5 points later, I can breathe easy. We'll see where it goes (I am ahead and doubt that I need McFadden's 5 points at all), but if i had to ever do something stupid, today is the day I am glad I did it...

 
Well I was debating between Moreno and DMC. The more I looked at it, DMC is playing the best in his career. He has been making the tough runs and playing solid. Is he playing like a RB1 right now? Absolutely... So I am falling back to the old adage, "Never bench your studs." He's playing like a stud, gotta go with him...... Never thought I would see that from a 12th round pick... but the facts are the facts!
Glad I went the other way. Usually I'd have swapped out Moreno at the last minute for McFadden but decided not to this time. Perhaps I'm finally learning :bag: -QG
 
I did not expect a great game. I thought the Raiders O-Line would allow DMC to get 50-60 yards. Campbell is really that bad though and allowed the Steelers to stack the box and key McFadden. I am very surprised at the lack of screens and passes in the flat to DMC.
The blocking for McFadden was similar to what Bush saw in the games he started.
 
I did not expect a great game. I thought the Raiders O-Line would allow DMC to get 50-60 yards. Campbell is really that bad though and allowed the Steelers to stack the box and key McFadden. I am very surprised at the lack of screens and passes in the flat to DMC.
The blocking for McFadden was similar to what Bush saw in the games he started.
:lmao:Good to see you continue your McFadden hate shtick. Is everyone rolling him out next week vs. Miami? Suddenly I'm flush at rb with Keiland and Tolbert.
 

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