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Benching McFadden? (1 Viewer)

omegamaulers

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Given the struggles of McFadden and Oakland in general, is anyone giving any consideration to benching McFadden for a bit to see if the Raiders can get their offense together. Do you see him ever being worth the level at which he was drafted this year, or might he join CJ2K as one of the biggest disappointments of the year??? Pittsburgh this week does not sound like a recipe for success for the Raiders or McFadden. Any thoughts on his outlook the rest of the year?

 
the one league I have him in I'm really not in a position to bench him, as I've also got fjax in that league, and it's ppr, so I'll take my chances.

I agree it's not lookin' great.

 
Given the struggles of McFadden and Oakland in general, is anyone giving any consideration to benching McFadden for a bit to see if the Raiders can get their offense together. Do you see him ever being worth the level at which he was drafted this year, or might he join CJ2K as one of the biggest disappointments of the year??? Pittsburgh this week does not sound like a recipe for success for the Raiders or McFadden. Any thoughts on his outlook the rest of the year?
If I owned him, I would play him this week and every single week for the rest of the season.
 
I am playing him this week, even with a solid #2 option of Marshawn Lynch sitting behind him. For all of the talk about it being a rough matchup, they've given up around 4ypc, so it's not impossible to run against them.

Call it a gut feeling, but I think he's going to have a good game against the Steelers.

 
You realize the first time you bench him, he's gonna blow up. Unless you have another RB1 lying around on your roster, it would be difficult to bench RunDMC if he's not injured. He's actually looked good, unlike a guy like CJ2k.

 
I am playing him this week, even with a solid #2 option of Marshawn Lynch sitting behind him. For all of the talk about it being a rough matchup, they've given up around 4ypc, so it's not impossible to run against them. Call it a gut feeling, but I think he's going to have a good game against the Steelers.
Sans Polamalu :towelwave: can only make things easier for DMac
 
I am playing him this week, even with a solid #2 option of Marshawn Lynch sitting behind him. For all of the talk about it being a rough matchup, they've given up around 4ypc, so it's not impossible to run against them. Call it a gut feeling, but I think he's going to have a good game against the Steelers.
while I think the name brand of the steelers gets more play on the run d than the actual run d, the fact is the raiders haven't played particularly well, they're starting a scrub at LT, and have lost both corners --- this isn't shaping up particularly well for their running game.if their line can't beat down that patchwork pitt o-line they'll get torched and abandon the run.I agree about starting your studs, but if fjax was healthy, or I had spiller, I'd put him on the bench.I'd def start lynch over him.
 
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This scares me.

1. Raider rushing attack (FFToday) Darren McFadden and the Raiders have struggled to establish a rushing attack so far this year. McFadden has been hit by the opposition on average at 0.7 yards down field, as opposed to 3.6 yards down field last year. McFadden has 26 attempts for 54 yards for an average of 2.1 yards-per-carry. Last year, the Raider running back averaged 5.4 yards per carry. 7 hours

I've got Ridely behind him and I may sit DMC. It's short-sighted to insist you can't bench him. How did that work out for people that stuck with CJnoK last year? While DMC isn't dogging it the team STINKS. How much success can you expect?

 
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Yes! We need a critical mass of benchings to get him to blow up. Do it guys. Just bench him. All of you. I promise to use many emoticons to express my gratitude.

 
Have to choose 3 of AMorris, DMartin, DMcFadden and RMathews. Thinking of sitting Mathews just to make sure he's really back, but it's tempting to sit McFadden.

ETA that I'm 0-2 in that league and I think your record and place in the league standings matter with this decision.

 
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I'm rolling with McFadden for the time being. With all the catches week 1 he put up great numbers so I'm not bailing based on one unproductive week. Once bye weeks hit benching him likely won't even be an option for me.

 
Quite an interesting web he weaves with other rb's. It's one of those "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" type of things. McFadden got shut down by San Diego and Miami. Miami shut down Arian Foster and Ben Tate as well. San Diego shut down Chris Johnson as well as McFadden (running wise). I think the general (current) thoughts of fantasy owners is that Miami is becoming a run defense to avoid, Chris Johnson sucks, and that McFadden is puzzling owners.

I don't own McFadden but I tend to believe in a talent like his. Maybe his injuries and new running scheme have caused him to change his style. Maybe he won't be the same dominant force that owners thought he'd be, but I don't think you can bench him. Pittsburgh has declined. They are still a solid run D, but nothing to be terrified of. If I owned McFadden, unless I had guys like CJ Spiller or someone that emerged off my bench, I'd play him.

 
I am also 0-2 and need a win badly but I hitched my wagon to this guy and I ain't benching him. you don't bench your best rb when you need a win. yes the raiders are a mess and carson palmer sucks and they will most likely lose to pitt. that means nothing. all he needs is one or two big plays. dont overthink this...

 
He looked fine in week one albeit on pass plays but with zero support he just wore out about mid third quarter. If he had scored on the pass to the one or gotten any help he may have been able to keep some momentum. But you saw the head go down and the body language change and I bet a stat review will show no more meaningful plays the rest of the game.

Game 2 I did not see.

He is really good - it's obvious but he needs help like anyone.

 
When I look at the matchup, I can't help but hate it....

I love McFadden but if I had any legit options behind him I would probably bench him this week.

He could still break a big one, but his offense will have to show major improvement before I can trust him again.

Nothing you can do when there's 8 and 9 guys in the box(unless your Adrian Peterson)

 
Quite an interesting web he weaves with other rb's. It's one of those "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" type of things. McFadden got shut down by San Diego and Miami. Miami shut down Arian Foster and Ben Tate as well. San Diego shut down Chris Johnson as well as McFadden (running wise). I think the general (current) thoughts of fantasy owners is that Miami is becoming a run defense to avoid, Chris Johnson sucks, and that McFadden is puzzling owners.
yeah, I guess if 79/2 is what you call getting shut down then I hope pitt shuts him down liek miami shut down foster.and everybody shuts down CJj/k --- I mean really shuts down, not 79/2 shuts down.
 
There's only about 10 or so RBs I'd debate benching him for. If you bench him you're a fool, plain and simple.
Was I a fool benching him for Doug Martin last week?You have to be ahead of the curve to dominate in fantasy.
Yeah you were. This is much like poker in the sense that you have to constantly put yourself in the best position to win, giving yourself the best odds. Sure, you can get lucky in the short term but in the long-run it'll almost always come back to bite you in the ###.
 
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Quite an interesting web he weaves with other rb's. It's one of those "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" type of things. McFadden got shut down by San Diego and Miami. Miami shut down Arian Foster and Ben Tate as well. San Diego shut down Chris Johnson as well as McFadden (running wise). I think the general (current) thoughts of fantasy owners is that Miami is becoming a run defense to avoid, Chris Johnson sucks, and that McFadden is puzzling owners.
yeah, I guess if 79/2 is what you call getting shut down then I hope pitt shuts him down liek miami shut down foster.and everybody shuts down CJj/k --- I mean really shuts down, not 79/2 shuts down.
From a fantasy stand point Foster was fine. But 3.0 ypc is shut down. Foster is my favorite player in the NFL. But plain and simple, Miami shut him down. He scored two td's, one a very nice run. But on 26 carries, normally Arian will do something closer to the Jacksonville game (which wasn't up to his standards either)
 
Given the struggles of McFadden and Oakland in general, is anyone giving any consideration to benching McFadden for a bit to see if the Raiders can get their offense together. Do you see him ever being worth the level at which he was drafted this year, or might he join CJ2K as one of the biggest disappointments of the year??? Pittsburgh this week does not sound like a recipe for success for the Raiders or McFadden. Any thoughts on his outlook the rest of the year?
I'm not ready to put him down for one of the biggest disappointments of the year yet. I think the issue is the offensive plan of the Raiders and no one is scared of their receivers. CJ1.1YPC is having similar issues with his offense, but just doesn't look good running the ball. DMC on the other hand looks good running the ball and gets to catch passes out of the backfield. Also, DMC's schedule looks pretty good once he gets through the bye week.Getting to your main question, I'm considering benching him for Hillis against NO. But, would you start DMC over Ridley v Bal or Martin v Dal? At this time, I think not. Yes, he's going to be worth the level at which he was drafted assuming you didn't expect too much based on preseason and injury history.
 
Quite an interesting web he weaves with other rb's. It's one of those "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" type of things. McFadden got shut down by San Diego and Miami. Miami shut down Arian Foster and Ben Tate as well. San Diego shut down Chris Johnson as well as McFadden (running wise). I think the general (current) thoughts of fantasy owners is that Miami is becoming a run defense to avoid, Chris Johnson sucks, and that McFadden is puzzling owners.
yeah, I guess if 79/2 is what you call getting shut down then I hope pitt shuts him down liek miami shut down foster.and everybody shuts down CJj/k --- I mean really shuts down, not 79/2 shuts down.
From a fantasy stand point Foster was fine. But 3.0 ypc is shut down. Foster is my favorite player in the NFL. But plain and simple, Miami shut him down. He scored two td's, one a very nice run. But on 26 carries, normally Arian will do something closer to the Jacksonville game (which wasn't up to his standards either)
As a Foster owner, I'm a bit surprised at his current YPC average. I think the leg injury may still be bothering him a bit. The pure volume of reps he receives will buoy his stats regardless though.
 
Leaning towards benching him for M. Bush, assuming he carries the full load, but assuming it will be a short-term change. Still think he's a borderline RB1 over the whole season.

 
There's only about 10 or so RBs I'd debate benching him for. If you bench him you're a fool, plain and simple.
Was I a fool benching him for Doug Martin last week?You have to be ahead of the curve to dominate in fantasy.
Yeah you were. This is much like poker in the sense that you have to constantly put yourself in the best position to win, giving yourself the best odds. Sure, you can get lucky in the short term but in the long-run it'll almost always come back to bite you in the ###.
what made him the best position to win last week -- where he was drafted?do you think clubs put themselves in the best position to win by starting their first and second round draft picks even if someone else in practice is outproducing them?
 
I am also 0-2 and need a win badly but I hitched my wagon to this guy and I ain't benching him. you don't bench your best rb when you need a win. yes the raiders are a mess and carson palmer sucks and they will most likely lose to pitt. that means nothing. all he needs is one or two big plays. dont overthink this...
Yes, my thought is the more desperate the situation (as if 0-2 is really THAT desperate) the more high risk. So keep him in there. I could see someone who is 2-0 resting him though, especially if their matchup that week looked good.
 
There's only about 10 or so RBs I'd debate benching him for. If you bench him you're a fool, plain and simple.
Was I a fool benching him for Doug Martin last week?You have to be ahead of the curve to dominate in fantasy.
Yeah you were. This is much like poker in the sense that you have to constantly put yourself in the best position to win, giving yourself the best odds. Sure, you can get lucky in the short term but in the long-run it'll almost always come back to bite you in the ###.
what made him the best position to win last week -- where he was drafted?do you think clubs put themselves in the best position to win by starting their first and second round draft picks even if someone else in practice is outproducing them?
What? That's a bad comparison. They're on separate teams and in this specific case DMC tied Martin in Standard leagues and easily outscored him in PPR in week 1. DMC is the more talented RB and had a much tougher match-up. Again, sitting DMC is generally a bad move unless you have another top 10-12 RB as a possible replacement.
 
'SameSongNDance said:
'Dought Man said:
'SameSongNDance said:
There's only about 10 or so RBs I'd debate benching him for. If you bench him you're a fool, plain and simple.
Was I a fool benching him for Doug Martin last week?You have to be ahead of the curve to dominate in fantasy.
Yeah you were. This is much like poker in the sense that you have to constantly put yourself in the best position to win, giving yourself the best odds. Sure, you can get lucky in the short term but in the long-run it'll almost always come back to bite you in the ###.
It's nothing like poker, maybe roulette.
 
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Please bench him so that 99.999999999999% of other McFadden owners get a good week out of it!!! you would have to be a FOOL to bench McFadden unless he is hurt! the only RB that got drafted in round 1 that i would considder benching is CJ1/100th K
 
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'Kwai Chang Caine said:
This scares me.1. Raider rushing attack (FFToday) Darren McFadden and the Raiders have struggled to establish a rushing attack so far this year. McFadden has been hit by the opposition on average at 0.7 yards down field, as opposed to 3.6 yards down field last year. McFadden has 26 attempts for 54 yards for an average of 2.1 yards-per-carry. Last year, the Raider running back averaged 5.4 yards per carry. 7 hours I've got Ridely behind him and I may sit DMC. It's short-sighted to insist you can't bench him. How did that work out for people that stuck with CJnoK last year? While DMC isn't dogging it the team STINKS. How much success can you expect?
This. The Raider rushing offense is not the same folks. No holes, McFadden getting stuffed. I would never sit DMac because he can catch a screen and go the distance. Still, unless something changes he's going to drastically underperform in 2012
 
I'm sitting him or Charles in a non PPR, I think Charles is the odd man out because of the probable touches. But I did consider it.

 
'SameSongNDance said:
'Dought Man said:
'SameSongNDance said:
There's only about 10 or so RBs I'd debate benching him for. If you bench him you're a fool, plain and simple.
Was I a fool benching him for Doug Martin last week?You have to be ahead of the curve to dominate in fantasy.
Yeah you were. This is much like poker in the sense that you have to constantly put yourself in the best position to win, giving yourself the best odds. Sure, you can get lucky in the short term but in the long-run it'll almost always come back to bite you in the ###.
:loco:
 
'Kwai Chang Caine said:
This scares me.1. Raider rushing attack (FFToday) Darren McFadden and the Raiders have struggled to establish a rushing attack so far this year. McFadden has been hit by the opposition on average at 0.7 yards down field, as opposed to 3.6 yards down field last year. McFadden has 26 attempts for 54 yards for an average of 2.1 yards-per-carry. Last year, the Raider running back averaged 5.4 yards per carry. 7 hours I've got Ridely behind him and I may sit DMC. It's short-sighted to insist you can't bench him. How did that work out for people that stuck with CJnoK last year? While DMC isn't dogging it the team STINKS. How much success can you expect?
This. The Raider rushing offense is not the same folks. No holes, McFadden getting stuffed. I would never sit DMac because he can catch a screen and go the distance. Still, unless something changes he's going to drastically underperform in 2012
It may take a time for DMC to fully get into the swing of things, but it's only a matter of time before he adjusts to the ZBS. I have faith in his talent, which includes his football intelligence. He just needs to be a bit more patient when approaching the LOS. In the game against SD for example, DMC looked like he was going to break one on seemingly every other play (in the first half), but would try to hit a hole a fraction too soon or too late, which would inevitable lead to him being taken down.The team stinking isn't really an argument that I can side with. Look at MJD last year, look at Trich last week. Certain types of talent supersede sup-par situations, DMC is one of those talents.Lastly, by mid year, were going to look back at SD and MIA's rush defense and realize they played a huge part in DMC's slow start. MIA specifically held Foster and DMC to sub 4 YPC, an amazing feat IMO.Last time I'll say it, sit DMC at your own peril. When he puts it all together, it's going to be fun to watch.
 
It's not him that I'm worried about...

teams have been putting 8 and 9 in the box against the raiders so far this year and he has no room to do anything... The Chargers game, while productive in fantasy... was hard to watch, I felt bad for him.

He is all alone in that offense and the opposing teams know it.

ETA: I love everything McFadden and I think hes a top 5 dynasty back... just worried about his current situation the same way people are worried about Larry Fitz

 
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This article pretty much puts most of the blame on McFadden. It's interesting and I partially agree. I think some of the blame can also be placed on the shoddy play calling (go deep, keep em at least slightly honest). DMC just has to watch tape and learn from his mistakes.

One thing I also took away from the article is that the OL was creating some big holes for DMC against a stout MIA rush defense. This is really good to see.

 
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This article pretty much puts most of the blame on McFadden. It's interesting and I partially agree. I think some of the blame can also be placed on the shoddy play calling (go deep, keep em at least slightly honest). DMC just has to watch tape and learn from his mistakes.

One thing I also took away from the article is that the OL was creating some big holes for DMC against a stout MIA rush defense. This is really good to see.
good read, maybe I'm off here.Then the question is how long does it take a RB to translate to this type of thing?

 

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