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Bernard Scott, RB Abilene Christian (1 Viewer)

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I pulled this off a Colts message board, plus I list various scouting reports on him.

Every year I try to find a sleeper pick. Someone no one has heard of, yet I think will rise up online draft boards and people will be talking about come draft day.

So this my sleeper pick is Bernard Scott - RB - Abiliene Christian.

Got into to trouble when he was younger, had to transfer from Central Arkansas to ACU.

As a Freshman at Central Arkansas. On just 163 carries ran for 1,026 yards and 11 TDs. Also added 23 receptions for 256 yards.

Did not play the next year.

Transfered to JUCO

2007 at ACU - 251 carries, 2,165 yards (8.6 Ypc), 35 TDs, 46 receptions 535 yards and 4 TDs

2008 at ACU - 266 carries, 2,156 yards (8.1 ypc), 28 tds, 47 receptions 826 yards and 6 TDs.

So in three years of playing he has: 680 carries, 5,347 yards (7.9 ypc), 74 TDs, 116 receptions, 1647 yards and 10 TDs.

He's 5'11" 220lbs, estimated 4.45 speed and then I found these quotes about him. Agility, vision, quickness and toughness to go with it as well.

"He's real fast and really quick," he said. "He's got some of the best speed I've seen in a running back since I can remember when, and he's got great vision. That's a really good combination." (Ofcourse this quote is from his agent so take it with a grain of salt).

And this, which is most impressive, IMO.

"He's really tough. He played 47 straight games and never came out in his college career." Although I only count 35 games... but to never come out of a game is impressive at any level.

If he interviews well and his numbers support what is seen on film I could see the Colts or some other team taking a late round/FA chance on him and sign him to a contract similar to Ed Johnson's with a no/low tolerance contract.

Will be 25 years old in February. There are two ways to look at that. That's old for a rookie. Or/And he stuck with it even against the odds and did not give up.
Opinions on himBernard Scott Scouting Report by Brandon Tripp

Pros: Scott is a RB who can pound you up the middle, burn you on the outside, or catch out of the back field. Defenses planned to stop Scott and he still averaged over 140 yds a game his senior season. He has dominated the RB position in DII for the past two years while at Abilene Christian. Deceptively fast for his size and deceptively strong for his size as well. Could have been a DI prospect if not for his past.

Cons: Not a great blocker or great at picking up blitzes. Level of competition is not great at the DII level. But in a game against West Texas A&M, home to draft prospect Brett Swain who is expected to be a top 4 round pick, he rushed for well almost 300 yds and had 350+ all purpose yards. His age raises alarms which leads you to his past which raises even more alarms. He has straightened out at ACU (his last college stop) and has remained out of trouble for around two years.

Overall: B+. If he can convince teams that he has overcome his past and has a good combine I could see him as a first day pick.

Bernard Scott Scouting Report by deforest matthews

Pros: This player has dominated at every level from pop warner to college. He has athletic abilities very seldom seen in a human being (freak). This player has broken most of the RB records in Div.II this year. Probably the most under rated RB in the draft. 2007 runner up for Harlon Hill, this year its his.

Cons: This player has played for four different colleges. So i expect his age will be a red flag for some teams

Overall: Outstanding player, he has Devon Hester break away and Barry Sanders stop and go.

Bernard Scott Scouting Report by Termayne Willie

Pros: Very elusive back with good power and adequate speed and great hands out of the backfeild. Great vision and the ability to set up his blocks and take it the distance at any moment.

Cons: Size may be a factor at the next level and will have to prove himself worthy at the top level coming from NCAA Div. II school.

Overall: Overall grade B+, with a impressive workout at the combine, he is

Josh Buchanan's Division II Scouting Notes:

RB Bernard Scott, Abilene Christian ~ 5'11, 197, 4.55 - Downhill runner that needs to work on his blocking; will turn 25 next February; former Blinn JC transfer ran for 2,165 yards and 35 TDs in '07.

ITL: Player report: You could argue that the hottest running back in college football is Darryl Richardson's son, Abilene Christian OH Bernard Scott. Of course, he's also one of the best-kept secrets in the game given his Division II pedigree, despite the fact he's leading an undefeated squad's high-flying offense while regularly rushing for 200 yards per game. Richardson talked about the agent selection process, why he's particular about where (geographically) his son will train, and why he's not worried about one man holding agent and financial adviser duties in today's

 
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He is already being discussed in rookie draft picks. Scott has a lot of character issues.
I did see one post in a rookie thread that discussed Scott. Madd Futher wrote -
I'm wondering how closely you think Goodson compares (talent-wise) with the RB from less than 100 miles away at Abiline Christian who showed so well at Tx V Nation, Bernard Scott. They seem to be almost identical in Ht/Wt and in quicks. You guys might like this interesting read about Scott, who has a record of 5 arrests and attended 4 different colleges: Since high school, Bernard Scott has been running for another chance.He did not play his senior season after being involved in an off-field fight. He has been arrested at least five times and is finishing 18 months of probation for giving false information to a police officer during a traffic stop. He is attending his fourth college since 2003.But his explosive ability as a running back has provided ample opportunities for redemption, the latest one at Abilene Christian University. During a 93-68 victory last Saturday against West Texas A&M, Scott accounted for 353 all-purpose yards and 7 touchdowns. A 5-foot-11, 200-pound senior, Scott leads N.C.A.A. Division II in scoring (17.5 points a game) and all-purpose yards (248.8). And he is one of eight finalists for the Harlon Hill Trophy, which is given to the top player in Division II.Although Scott's talent has never been questioned, his off-field behavior could pose concerns for N.F.L. teams."Some people might hold it against me or whatever," he said. "But it made me a better person, because I've learned from my mistakes."Candid when interviewed about some of his past legal troubles, Scott, 24, failed to mention that he was arrested June 28 on a misdemeanor charge of fleeing a police officer in his hometown, Vernon, Tex. He posted $750 bond, and the case is pending. Abilene Christian Coach Chris Thomsen said he was unaware of the incident."I wouldn't have him on my team or wouldn't have him on our campus if I didn't trust the kid," Thomsen said. "I've seen him grow immensely as a football player and a person."After abruptly leaving Southeastern Oklahoma State University following a redshirt season, Scott transferred to the University of Central Arkansas in 2004. He rushed for 1,026 yards and 11 touchdowns and was named the Gulf South Conference freshman of the year before being dismissed. Central Arkansas Coach Clint Conque said he removed Scott for striking a coach who tried to break up a fight on the field in the spring of 2005. Scott denied that he hit a coach."He's a tremendous, tremendous football player," Conque said by telephone. "He hates school, doesn't trust a lot of people and obviously has some anger issues. I'm hoping that he's matured some, but he maybe is one of the best pure running backs as far as balance, skills sets, vision and elusiveness."After a stint trimming trees in Florida, Scott returned home in 2005. While there, he said, he did not work and hung out with a rough crowd. "I was just running around doing foolish stuff," he said. Scott resurfaced in 2006 at Blinn College in Texas, where he rushed for 1,892 yards and 27 touchdowns. He was named the most valuable player in his team's national junior college championship victory. He was also charged that year with stealing an iPod, a misdemeanor offense that was dismissed with his participation in a pretrial diversion program.
 
He is already being discussed in rookie draft picks. Scott has a lot of character issues.
I did see one post in a rookie thread that discussed Scott. Madd Futher wrote -
I'm wondering how closely you think Goodson compares (talent-wise) with the RB from less than 100 miles away at Abiline Christian who showed so well at Tx V Nation, Bernard Scott. They seem to be almost identical in Ht/Wt and in quicks. You guys might like this interesting read about Scott, who has a record of 5 arrests and attended 4 different colleges: Since high school, Bernard Scott has been running for another chance.He did not play his senior season after being involved in an off-field fight. He has been arrested at least five times and is finishing 18 months of probation for giving false information to a police officer during a traffic stop. He is attending his fourth college since 2003.But his explosive ability as a running back has provided ample opportunities for redemption, the latest one at Abilene Christian University. During a 93-68 victory last Saturday against West Texas A&M, Scott accounted for 353 all-purpose yards and 7 touchdowns. A 5-foot-11, 200-pound senior, Scott leads N.C.A.A. Division II in scoring (17.5 points a game) and all-purpose yards (248.8). And he is one of eight finalists for the Harlon Hill Trophy, which is given to the top player in Division II.Although Scott's talent has never been questioned, his off-field behavior could pose concerns for N.F.L. teams."Some people might hold it against me or whatever," he said. "But it made me a better person, because I've learned from my mistakes."Candid when interviewed about some of his past legal troubles, Scott, 24, failed to mention that he was arrested June 28 on a misdemeanor charge of fleeing a police officer in his hometown, Vernon, Tex. He posted $750 bond, and the case is pending. Abilene Christian Coach Chris Thomsen said he was unaware of the incident."I wouldn't have him on my team or wouldn't have him on our campus if I didn't trust the kid," Thomsen said. "I've seen him grow immensely as a football player and a person."After abruptly leaving Southeastern Oklahoma State University following a redshirt season, Scott transferred to the University of Central Arkansas in 2004. He rushed for 1,026 yards and 11 touchdowns and was named the Gulf South Conference freshman of the year before being dismissed. Central Arkansas Coach Clint Conque said he removed Scott for striking a coach who tried to break up a fight on the field in the spring of 2005. Scott denied that he hit a coach."He's a tremendous, tremendous football player," Conque said by telephone. "He hates school, doesn't trust a lot of people and obviously has some anger issues. I'm hoping that he's matured some, but he maybe is one of the best pure running backs as far as balance, skills sets, vision and elusiveness."After a stint trimming trees in Florida, Scott returned home in 2005. While there, he said, he did not work and hung out with a rough crowd. "I was just running around doing foolish stuff," he said. Scott resurfaced in 2006 at Blinn College in Texas, where he rushed for 1,892 yards and 27 touchdowns. He was named the most valuable player in his team's national junior college championship victory. He was also charged that year with stealing an iPod, a misdemeanor offense that was dismissed with his participation in a pretrial diversion program.
Some good info there...
 
That info was from a New York Times piece done in November. Here's something from the end of it that caught my eye. Gil Brandt was the personnel guy for the Cowboys during the Landry era. He knows a thing or two...

“When he gets out in the open, it’s over,” Southeastern Oklahoma State Coach Ray Richards said in a telephone interview. “He’s like Barry Sanders. You can contain him, contain him, contain him, and then all of a sudden, it’s over.”

On talent alone, Scott could be a late first-day pick in April’s N.F.L. draft, said Gil Brandt, a pro football analyst.

“Everybody likes him,” Brandt said. “But they all keep their mouths shut.”

 
In a dyno draft I'd take a chance on a sick talent like Scott in the 2nd long before some middle of the road career backup type RB like James Davis, Javon Ringer, or some other similar talent.

What's the upside of a Ringer/Davis type? RB2.5 that is occasionally a good start when whatever RB he shares duties with is injured? Give me the RB1 upside guy with a decent chance of crapping out of the league in a year long before a Ringer or a Davis. If he craps out of the league, that's fine, I'll probably replace him with a Hillis type of player, someone with the same upside as a Davis or a Ringer.

 
He's 5'11" 220lbs, estimated 4.45 speed RB Bernard Scott, Abilene Christian ~ 5'11, 197, 4.55
The 1st one seems special. The 2nd one, not so much. DraftScout has him at the 2nd measurements as well.
 
I believe that 5' 11' 197 is much closer to correct (I'd guess a max of 202). But I also believe him to be 4.45 or even faster.

He has his work cut out for him at the combine. Scott must convince teams in the interviews that he has matured and that his head is screwed on straight. If he can do that and run a faster 40 than a 4.45, he could be drafted as high as the 4th round. If he can't, he's an UDFA.

He does interview well and comes across as a humble young man.

On the other hand, I know from experience (para-professional, not personal) that deep-seated anger issues (especially if genetic, which may be the case with ODD - oppositional defiant disorder, and some other conduct disorders) are hard to control even with anger management courses, and can also be difficult to control with psychiatric drugs. I would set a high probability that he will implode emotionally sooner rather than later in an NFL career. Judging from Coach Conque's comments, it is also highly likely that Scott suffers from ADHD and has self-steem issues off of the football field. And if I were an NFL personnel director or GM, I would also be very concerned that he failed to mention in the interview that he was arrested on June 28 on a misdemeanor charge of fleeing a police officer in his hometown, Vernon, Tex. He is now on probation as a result of that incident. This fairly recent episode, while minor, indicates a continued lack of character and maturity.

Abilene Christian Coach Chris Thomsen said he was unaware of the incident. Coach Thompsen took him under his wing and became a strong mentor, but hopefully Scott is getting good psychiatric help and will stick to his meds. If so, he has a chance to be drafted.

It is a shame that his mental health issues have caused him to waste what could have been 1st round talent, and he is now at the age of 25 just looking to impress enough to make a pre-season roster with a team and go on from there. There are quite a number of supporters in Abilene, TX who are in his corner and hoping for the best for him.

 
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Bernard Scott's name was coming up in the OTAs... now in training camp as well:

According to Carson Palmer, sixth-round RB Bernard Scott "has made the most plays and dropped the most jaws" of any Bengals rookie. Analysis: With the Ball in his hands so often, Scott has more of an opportunity than the other rookies. Still, this is consistent with offseason reports. Palmer believes Scott could be a "good change of pace" from Cedric Benson. The Bengals have an underwhelming veteran cast, so he has a shot at third-down/backup duties.
LINKIt's still early, but this isn't the first time an undersized but dynamic RB came into a situation where the incumbent RB was an underachiever....

 
Just putting the "news" all in one place:

From the June 22 email:

Source: Carlos Holmes, The Dayton Daily News

Carlos Holmes, of The Dayton Daily News, reports Cincinnati Bengals RB Bernard Scott was impressive during the team's minicamp. He was quick, fast and elusive. Scott made a number of nice cutback runs for big gains and was exciting to watch. He received a lot of reps, which means the team could have high expectations for him.

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The team should have high expectations for a player like Bernard Scott who we got to see up close and personal at the Texas vs The Nation Game in El Paso. Scott has great field vision, a quick initial burst, and good footwork when running through trash at the line of scrimmage. Once he's to the 2nd-level of the defense he can turn on the jets and take it the distance. Scott is also a good receiver out of the backfield where he can use his quickness to make defenders miss in space. There has never been a question of his talent on the field, it's the off field issues (4 different colleges, 5 arrests) that had teams concerned about selecting Scott in the 2009 NFL Draft. The Bengals not only have a change of pace back in Scott, but they also have their feature back of the future once Benson is gone - if Bernard Scott can stay out of trouble.

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5/29 Gut Check, Matt Waldman

Bernard Scott, Bengals

Skills: Scott's vision, quickness, and agility make him a back that is hard to ignore when you see him put these skills on display. He's also a good receiver and when you get him into the open field, he'll make any defense nervous. He's a highly instinctive back along the lines of Clinton Portis. He's not as tough of a runner, but neither was Portis early in his career. Scott is just as likely to squirt through a small crease between the tackles for a first down, as he is to bounce a run outside.

Obstacles: The reason you haven't heard much about Scott outside of Draftguys.com is that he's bounced around to multiple schools due to several off-field incidents. Maturity has not been Scott's strong point. The talk is that Scott has made significant strides to mature in the past year, but we'll see once he gets a little taste of the big-time. He's on an organization that has proven they will take risks on players with immense talent and immaturity, but they've also been burned several times. But it's his on-field performance that will be the first thing we'll have to see - can Scott be as dynamic as he was in the lower divisions of college football?

Outlook: If Scott answers all the doubts, he's in a great situation to be a surprise starter by the end of September. Cedric Benson had some nice moments down the stretch, and if he's ready to dedicate himself to fulfilling his immense potential, Scott will be a third down back, at best. Even so, he'll need to outperform Rutgers hybrid back, Brian Leonard who is an excellent short yardage runner and receiver when healthy. Scott is a real boom-bust pick if you're thinking about him for a redraft league - kind of like Robert Downey, Jr. early in his career; equal parts talent for performing and self-destructing. Scott is a much more reasonable pick in dynasty leagues where you can get him in the mid-to-late rounds, sit on him for a year or two, and see if he's grown up enough tap his potential.

 
Is taking him in with the 6th pick in this years rookie draft ( Ahead of McCoy ) a little crazy....

I dont need WR's or QB's , it s really a RB heavy league .

Dynasty of course ..

 
Thought I'd posted this here, but I guess I didn't. Did a write up on Scott back in early June.

http://www.retiredrookie.com/search/label/Sleepers

Background

Position: Running Back

College: Abilene Christian (Division II)

Height: 5' 10"

Weight: 200 lbs

Birth date: 2/10/84

40-time: 4.56

Drafted: Round 6, Cincinnati Bengals

Other Relevant Info: Character concerns



Analysis

Scott's an unusual case and I don't think too many know his story just yet, but I'm certain we'll soon be hearing about it. Since ranking him 30 in my rookie rankings a little over a week ago, I've been doing a bit of watching of his clips and reading more about him and he's climbing my rankings. I now have him sitting more around the 20-22 spot in my rookie rankings.

Scott is already making a nice impression in OTAs in Cincy showing nice athleticism, which is great news for his owners. From a pure skill set standpoint, he has nice vision, is quick and elusive with a nice burst and has solid hands (pay attention Mr. Benson). He also garnered attention from some of the better Division I NCAA teams in high school, but was ineligible academically pushing him to Abilene Christian which definitely stunted his growth as an NFL prospect. However, his college stats the past two years are pretty impressive:

2008: 266 car. 2,156 yds 20 TDs; 47 rec. 826 yds 6 TDs.

2007: 251 car. 2,165 35 TDs; 46 rec. 565 yds 4 TDs

Granted these are D-II stats which you have to question, but you can't ignore them.

There are a few things working against Scott - mainly his maturity, size and combine performance. Scott has clear character issues being arrested roughly five times over the past few years. We've seen what arrests do to talent and we don't have to go too far from Cincy. Chris Henry is a case and point... first round talent who has the tools to be a NFL starter, but he hasn't yet gotten his head on straight and he's fizzling in the background as a #3 WR for Cincy.

Scott also needs to bulk up from 5' 10" 200 lbs. To me, he looks like Chris Johnson and it's not just his hair. That's not to say that he can't be a starter without bulking up as there are examples of RBs who have been successful at his size, but he'll increase his chances of taking the wear and tear and the ability to absorb hits at the next level if he puts on a few pounds.

Scott's combine performance was middle of the pack. He wasn't overly impressive in any specific category either. He doesn't have great timed speed and isn't the strongest guy, but what he does have is the intangibles and football speed and instincts which push aside these negatives for me.

Conclusion

Overall, I really like Scott and am willing to take a shot on him with hopes of reaping the benefits of the boom. He has too many positive qualities that could leave us looking back saying, "Man that guy was a steal." He has everything you want: physical tools, opportunity, and college productivity.

Scott may fizzle with his off-the-field issues, but there's too much of an opportunity with the lackluster Benson being the only legitimate competition for carries in Cincy. I'd much rather take a shot on a guy like him than a mediocre RB prospect.

Scott could have been a 4th round draft pick if he had his act together and that can't be ignored. He should start eating into Benson's carries by mid-season 2009 and get opportunities on third down with his receiving ability (he just needs to work on his blocking like most rookie RBs).

 
2008: 266 car. 2,156 yds 20 TDs; 47 rec. 826 yds 6 TDs.2007: 251 car. 2,165 35 TDs; 46 rec. 565 yds 4 TDsGranted these are D-II stats which you have to question, but you can't ignore them.
I think you have to mostly ignore them. In the Division II playoffs, #2 Abilene (ACU) played #7 West Texas A&M (WTAMU), also in their league, and beat them 93-68. The Lone Star Conference didn't play much defense. In addition, the best LB in their league (and AP 1st team all-american Division II) was 6-0, 232 lb Jared Brock, who ran a 4.92. The Lone Star Conference is littered with 210 LBs. What will happen when Scott has to face bigger LBs who are just as fast as he is? The preseason should be interesting but I think he'll get buried going up the middle and he'll have trouble turning the corner.
 
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2008: 266 car. 2,156 yds 20 TDs; 47 rec. 826 yds 6 TDs.2007: 251 car. 2,165 35 TDs; 46 rec. 565 yds 4 TDsGranted these are D-II stats which you have to question, but you can't ignore them.
I think you have to mostly ignore them. In the Division II playoffs, #2 Abilene (ACU) played #7 West Texas A&M (WTAMU), also in their league, and beat them 93-68. The Lone Star Conference didn't play much defense.
I don't see very many guys putting up these stats. I don't think they can be ignored. Granted, they aren't comparable to SEC conference stats, for example, so you weight less. It gives an indication of what he's capable of.
 
2008: 266 car. 2,156 yds 20 TDs; 47 rec. 826 yds 6 TDs.2007: 251 car. 2,165 35 TDs; 46 rec. 565 yds 4 TDsGranted these are D-II stats which you have to question, but you can't ignore them.
I think you have to mostly ignore them. In the Division II playoffs, #2 Abilene (ACU) played #7 West Texas A&M (WTAMU), also in their league, and beat them 93-68. The Lone Star Conference didn't play much defense.
I don't see very many guys putting up these stats. I don't think they can be ignored. Granted, they aren't comparable to SEC conference stats, for example, so you weight less. It gives an indication of what he's capable of.
Not saying he didn't have Division I talent but I wonder how many Division I players could have put up those numbers in that Division II conference. What do you think Benson would have done in that conference? He had 1834 yards in the Big 12. They might have never tackled him in Division II.
 
2008: 266 car. 2,156 yds 20 TDs; 47 rec. 826 yds 6 TDs.2007: 251 car. 2,165 35 TDs; 46 rec. 565 yds 4 TDsGranted these are D-II stats which you have to question, but you can't ignore them.
I think you have to mostly ignore them. In the Division II playoffs, #2 Abilene (ACU) played #7 West Texas A&M (WTAMU), also in their league, and beat them 93-68. The Lone Star Conference didn't play much defense.
I don't see very many guys putting up these stats. I don't think they can be ignored. Granted, they aren't comparable to SEC conference stats, for example, so you weight less. It gives an indication of what he's capable of.
Not saying he didn't have Division I talent but I wonder how many Division I players could have put up those numbers in that Division II conference. What do you think Benson would have done in that conference? He had 1834 yards in the Big 12. They might have never tackled him in Division II.
Would he still have the Texas offensive line creating colossal chasm's for him to run through?
 
NFL.com analysis:

AnalysisPositives: Excellent burst through the hole, and hits it hard. Very good vision, and usually finds the best running lane. Uses that vision and excellent footwork to pick his way through traffic. Sidesteps defenders in the hole. Patient runner inside or on the edge who will wait for blocks to develop before hitting the gas. Runs with a nice lean and low center of gravity, getting through arm tackles in traffic or in space. Keeps legs churning inside; puts his hand on the ground to maintain balance and get more yards. Excellent hands for the reception and makes the first man miss. Quick to get into his route, and fast in and out of his cut.Negatives: A bit leaner than most NFL teams like in their backs, although he runs low enough to handle a pounding. Runs with the ball in his left hand heading in either direction. Good second gear but lacks the elite third gear. Lack of experience in pass protection will be a concern as a third-down back. Major character issues and over-aged for a rookie running back.
Combine numbers:40: 4.56 (#8 of 27)Bench: 21 reps (T 16th)vertical: 36.0 (T 8th)Broad Jump: 10'5" (T 3rd)3 cone drill: 6.82 (1st)20 yard shuttle: 4.08 (T 1st)The 40 numbers seemed slower this year and I've seen other sites that had him at sub-4.5 before the combine. Outside of the bench, he ranked right up there.His college stats don't matter. By the eyeball test he looks talented, and he has good+ measurables. He is not buried on the depth chart, so he has opportunity.Talent. Opportunity.He may just be a 3rd down back. He may be Ben Gay v2.0. He may get arrested. He may not be able to block (I don't know) and thus not get on the field. Benson may turn out to be legit instead of simply the least bad RB on the team.Point being, nothing but good things are being said about Scott thus far. We're talking about a 2nd or 3rd round rookie pick, so the cost is cheap. (it's silly to take him at #6)He's looking more interesting, imo.
 
Not saying he didn't have Division I talent but I wonder how many Division I players could have put up those numbers in that Division II conference. What do you think Benson would have done in that conference? He had 1834 yards in the Big 12. They might have never tackled him in Division II.
I really don't know, but I'm not comparing Scott to one of the best college backs to play the game in the above analysis. I'm merely saying that you cannot discount his stats. That being said... I don't think Benson would have caught 30+ balls in D-II.The guy is talented and was productive in college. He clearly would not have been as productive in D-I. However, the production needs to be considered and not completely disregarded.
 
Traders2001 said:
DenverBroncos said:
Traders2001 said:
Is taking him in with the 6th pick in this years rookie draft ( Ahead of McCoy ) a little crazy....I dont need WR's or QB's , it s really a RB heavy league .Dynasty of course ..
Yes, it's crazy.
He only has to beat Cedric Benson for a starting job , while McCoy will be behind Westbrook for 2 or 3 more years .
Assuming you have a 2nd round pick, there is high percentage chance that you will be able to get both McCoy and Scott even in the most Rb heavy leagues. Remember he is a late roud pick with plenty of negative baggage. Personally, i have not seen him taken before the mid-2nd round which is about where his risk/reward is of good value. At 1.6 overall, Scott's downside is too great.
 
Assuming you have a 2nd round pick, there is high percentage chance that you will be able to get both McCoy and Scott even in the most Rb heavy leagues. Remember he is a late roud pick with plenty of negative baggage. Personally, i have not seen him taken before the mid-2nd round which is about where his risk/reward is of good value. At 1.6 overall, Scott's downside is too great.

got him for the 3.3 and I am more than happy to pay that price :hifive:

 
Patoons said:
Not saying he didn't have Division I talent but I wonder how many Division I players could have put up those numbers in that Division II conference. What do you think Benson would have done in that conference? He had 1834 yards in the Big 12. They might have never tackled him in Division II.
I really don't know, but I'm not comparing Scott to one of the best college backs to play the game in the above analysis. I'm merely saying that you cannot discount his stats. That being said... I don't think Benson would have caught 30+ balls in D-II.The guy is talented and was productive in college. He clearly would not have been as productive in D-I. However, the production needs to be considered and not completely disregarded.
Well, he caught 22 in Division I so I don't think 30+ would be out of the question in Division II. I don't think Benson is an unusual comparison since that is who he is competing with for in Cincinnati. He may be talented but there are probably intramural teams at Texas with as much talent as the defenses Scott faced in Division II. Division I stats are somewhat irrelevant. Division 1-AA, a little more. Division II stats, mostly meaningless. The preseason will be far more revealing.
 
I pulled this off a Colts message board, plus I list various scouting reports on him.

Every year I try to find a sleeper pick. Someone no one has heard of, yet I think will rise up online draft boards and people will be talking about come draft day.

So this my sleeper pick is Bernard Scott - RB - Abiliene Christian.

Got into to trouble when he was younger, had to transfer from Central Arkansas to ACU.

As a Freshman at Central Arkansas. On just 163 carries ran for 1,026 yards and 11 TDs. Also added 23 receptions for 256 yards.

Did not play the next year.

Transfered to JUCO

2007 at ACU - 251 carries, 2,165 yards (8.6 Ypc), 35 TDs, 46 receptions 535 yards and 4 TDs

2008 at ACU - 266 carries, 2,156 yards (8.1 ypc), 28 tds, 47 receptions 826 yards and 6 TDs.

So in three years of playing he has: 680 carries, 5,347 yards (7.9 ypc), 74 TDs, 116 receptions, 1647 yards and 10 TDs.

He's 5'11" 220lbs, estimated 4.45 speed and then I found these quotes about him. Agility, vision, quickness and toughness to go with it as well.

"He's real fast and really quick," he said. "He's got some of the best speed I've seen in a running back since I can remember when, and he's got great vision. That's a really good combination." (Ofcourse this quote is from his agent so take it with a grain of salt).

And this, which is most impressive, IMO.

"He's really tough. He played 47 straight games and never came out in his college career." Although I only count 35 games... but to never come out of a game is impressive at any level.

If he interviews well and his numbers support what is seen on film I could see the Colts or some other team taking a late round/FA chance on him and sign him to a contract similar to Ed Johnson's with a no/low tolerance contract.

Will be 25 years old in February. There are two ways to look at that. That's old for a rookie. Or/And he stuck with it even against the odds and did not give up.
Opinions on him

Bernard Scott Scouting Report by Brandon Tripp

Pros: Scott is a RB who can pound you up the middle, burn you on the outside, or catch out of the back field. Defenses planned to stop Scott and he still averaged over 140 yds a game his senior season. He has dominated the RB position in DII for the past two years while at Abilene Christian. Deceptively fast for his size and deceptively strong for his size as well. Could have been a DI prospect if not for his past.

Cons: Not a great blocker or great at picking up blitzes. Level of competition is not great at the DII level. But in a game against West Texas A&M, home to draft prospect Brett Swain who is expected to be a top 4 round pick, he rushed for well almost 300 yds and had 350+ all purpose yards. His age raises alarms which leads you to his past which raises even more alarms. He has straightened out at ACU (his last college stop) and has remained out of trouble for around two years.

Overall: B+. If he can convince teams that he has overcome his past and has a good combine I could see him as a first day pick.

Bernard Scott Scouting Report by deforest matthews

Pros: This player has dominated at every level from pop warner to college. He has athletic abilities very seldom seen in a human being (freak). This player has broken most of the RB records in Div.II this year. Probably the most under rated RB in the draft. 2007 runner up for Harlon Hill, this year its his.

Cons: This player has played for four different colleges. So i expect his age will be a red flag for some teams

Overall: Outstanding player, he has Devon Hester break away and Barry Sanders stop and go.

Bernard Scott Scouting Report by Termayne Willie

Pros: Very elusive back with good power and adequate speed and great hands out of the backfeild. Great vision and the ability to set up his blocks and take it the distance at any moment.

Cons: Size may be a factor at the next level and will have to prove himself worthy at the top level coming from NCAA Div. II school.

Overall: Overall grade B+, with a impressive workout at the combine, he is

Josh Buchanan's Division II Scouting Notes:

RB Bernard Scott, Abilene Christian ~ 5'11, 197, 4.55 - Downhill runner that needs to work on his blocking; will turn 25 next February; former Blinn JC transfer ran for 2,165 yards and 35 TDs in '07.

ITL: Player report: You could argue that the hottest running back in college football is Darryl Richardson's son, Abilene Christian OH Bernard Scott. Of course, he's also one of the best-kept secrets in the game given his Division II pedigree, despite the fact he's leading an undefeated squad's high-flying offense while regularly rushing for 200 yards per game. Richardson talked about the agent selection process, why he's particular about where (geographically) his son will train, and why he's not worried about one man holding agent and financial adviser duties in today's
Those are some very good stats. Looks like he didn't have any injury history with all those touches in college for all those saying he can't handle a big load.
 
Let's talk about Scott since it looks like he may be startable for at least three weeks (starting Week 4).

I was high on him last year, but he never really seemed to grab the opportunity with extended playing time. Will he make good on this chance?

 
Let's talk about Scott since it looks like he may be startable for at least three weeks (starting Week 4).I was high on him last year, but he never really seemed to grab the opportunity with extended playing time. Will he make good on this chance?
I've been under his spell for a few years and he always pops on and off my roster when I have a free spot. He's never really gotten the shot as Marvin just keeps rolling out Benson. I've thought for a while that they should get him more involved but they haven't. This is his shot to show what he's got. Haven't looked at the schedule he'll have but I expect he'll do well.
 
His schedule:Week4: BUF @ CINWeek5: CIN @ JACWeek6: IND@ CINInteresting....
he couldn't ask for a better schedule. literally ending his 3week tryout against the colts........omen? jags have a decent runD i guess, but its not like he drew a pittsburgh or baltimore which would've definetly been possible since they have 4more matchups with those 2 still
 
I drafted him in dynasty because I could not get past his stat line of 5000+ yards, almost 8 ypc and 84 TDs in what is basically a two year stretch. (Yeah, read that again...I know!)

I researched his character issues at the time and because I live close to Cincy actually had a few people that knew him and the word I got (when he was drafted)was that he was taking this opportunity very seriously. Keep in mind, this was during a time when a lot of knucklehead things were going on/had occurred recently in cincy with Odell Thurman, chris Henry, and about every other player they had.

So, in general, I came away with the thought that the Bengals knowing of the issues and the NFL had just started enforcing their "penalize the franchise for character issues" policy; that they were seeing it as going well also.

Anyway, drafted him and really never could understand why he never gets a shot in Cincy because he has played a few games when needed and done well. had a really good game against the Raiders (I think) when he was asked to carry the full load.

I love the kid. I think the character stuff is in the past. He may only be a 3 week stop gap because the Bengals really do seem to be leery to give him his chance but:

A)I expect him to do very well over the three weeks and

B)He might just put on a show that makes it impossible to competely bench him again.

I am looking forward to these three games.

 
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His schedule:Week4: BUF @ CINWeek5: CIN @ JACWeek6: IND@ CINInteresting....
he couldn't ask for a better schedule. literally ending his 3week tryout against the colts........omen? jags have a decent runD i guess, but its not like he drew a pittsburgh or baltimore which would've definetly been possible since they have 4more matchups with those 2 still
Buf has actually improved a ton against the run too... not as good as it looks, but at least JAX may give TD opps b/c they seem like a weaker team right now.
 
He definitely has a good chance of being startable for that 2-3 week stretch. If you're thinking more than that though, it's probably wishful thinking. At best he can work his way into having more of a role when Ced comes back, but almost no way does he take over as the lead back.

As a Bengals fan, I get sick of the fans pointing the YPC difference as a reason Scott should be starting. They have 2 completely different roles in the offense. It isn't like they're calling the same plays for both guys and Scott is running for an extra yard per carry. Unless they're going to rewrite the offensive gameplans to suit Scott, he's going to be doing a lot more inside running now. I just hope he can block well enough when he starts. Protecting Dalton needs to be priority 1.

I will admit I'm interested in seeing him in an every down role though. The offense needs playmakers at any position they can find them.

 
He definitely has a good chance of being startable for that 2-3 week stretch. If you're thinking more than that though, it's probably wishful thinking. At best he can work his way into having more of a role when Ced comes back, but almost no way does he take over as the lead back.As a Bengals fan, I get sick of the fans pointing the YPC difference as a reason Scott should be starting. They have 2 completely different roles in the offense. It isn't like they're calling the same plays for both guys and Scott is running for an extra yard per carry. Unless they're going to rewrite the offensive gameplans to suit Scott, he's going to be doing a lot more inside running now. I just hope he can block well enough when he starts. Protecting Dalton needs to be priority 1.I will admit I'm interested in seeing him in an every down role though. The offense needs playmakers at any position they can find them.
What makes you so sure he can't take over as lead back? Benson hasn't exactly been lights-out recently. Seems to me there is a real opportunity here.Re: their different roles, Scott is supposedly a strong inside runner as well, even though the Bengals haven't used him much in that role. I guess we'll find out soon enough...
 
He definitely has a good chance of being startable for that 2-3 week stretch. If you're thinking more than that though, it's probably wishful thinking. At best he can work his way into having more of a role when Ced comes back, but almost no way does he take over as the lead back.As a Bengals fan, I get sick of the fans pointing the YPC difference as a reason Scott should be starting. They have 2 completely different roles in the offense. It isn't like they're calling the same plays for both guys and Scott is running for an extra yard per carry. Unless they're going to rewrite the offensive gameplans to suit Scott, he's going to be doing a lot more inside running now. I just hope he can block well enough when he starts. Protecting Dalton needs to be priority 1.I will admit I'm interested in seeing him in an every down role though. The offense needs playmakers at any position they can find them.
But the thing is, Benson is not good and never has been good. So issues of play design don't concern me as much as the fact as that he sucks and had one decent season where he ground out a million carries.Did your new offensive coordinator have input on the decision to bring Benson back? It seems possible that with a new coordinator and QB, Scott could flourish.
 

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