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Best Team in the NFL after Week 16 (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
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Be advised there is a typo in the poll
I apologize in advance for the feelings which will be hurt.
- Philadelphia 12-3 PF 402 PA 283 PD 119 L2
should read
- Philadelphia 12-3 PF 402 PA 283 PD 119 L1
I apologize in advance for the feelings which will be hurt.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
It’s still Philly. This loss was something they needed imo. No shot at the 1 so they can gameplan accordingly over the next two weeks. Getting healthy is priority number one and that applies of course to Jalen. The offense needs him in there to function, that’s obvious. If he can’t do next week then I’m worried they will lose to Dallas and make week 18 a must win and require everyone to start
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
If winning matters at all, the answer is still the Chiefs.
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Still Philadelphia. Anything else I would have said was expressed eloquently by @unckeyherb
calcinorjones
Footballguy
Back to Detroit over Eagles by slim margin but Vikings not that far back. Look out for Bills, Packers and Ravens. All good teams.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Minnesota rarely receive many votes in these weekly polls. Presumably bias against Darnold? Great team on both sides of the ball. Can run the ball, great receiving options, and Flores is one of the best DCs in the league.
Amazing season for the Vikings - only losses came B2B in a 5 day stretch. KOC is a strong candidate to win CotY.
Amazing season for the Vikings - only losses came B2B in a 5 day stretch. KOC is a strong candidate to win CotY.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Truth. I would not want to play the Vikings. Solid across the board.
And call me a homer, but I can't imagine anyone wants the Ravens right now.
You should go to the CFP thread in the FFA, you'll get a lot of disagreement. Since every team plays different schedules against different opponents there has to be other metrics beside pure w/l record when determining a subjective such as best team in the league. Strength of schedule, point differential, strength of each unit of a team, level of competition and how a team fares against that competition (close losses, big wins), etc. Recency bias being what it is I would choose either Detroit or Baltimore with my lean going the Ravens way as Detroit has suffered an ungodly amount of injuries that will catch up to them sooner or later and the Ravens have made incredible adjustments to their weakest link(defense) on the fly and are looking stronger by the week.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I think Detroit is comfortable playing anyone.
- San Francisco this week - little sumtin' sumtin' to wash the Jan 28 memory
- Baltimore in the Super Bowl would complete the revenge tour
- Kansas City to take down the Champs (again)
- Buffalo - Lions fans have a kinship because of Lake Erie connection, that matchup would be awesome, too - so many good storylines for BUF-DET in LIX
- Philadelphia is not someone we consider a rivalry, but if they're still in the way, bring it.
They've already have beaten Minnesota, one more would make for a first ever 6-0 record in division since the 1967 realignment.
This week they have a chance to extend their franchise record for most wins in a regular season.
2024 is already a franchise record for road wins, one more would complete an 8-0 road record for the season.
Only 7 franchise have had a 15 win regular season, Detroit would become the 8th - first in the 17 game format.
If they manage to do that, have a shot to join the 2007 Patriots, 1985 Bears and 1984 49ers as the only franchises to win 18 games in a season.
Really good year or historic season, it's all good. Been a really fun 2.5 seasons, looking forward to watching the conclusion of this season unfold.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I'm not sure you want that, but best of luck if it happens.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
Lions. The Eagles will go to Detroit for the NFC Championship game where Det will be favored by 2.5 points. Winner of that game earns the right to lose to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Set the O/U at 80 & let it roll
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Last year's week 12, 10-1 Eagles team would like to have a word.
Nevermore
Footballguy
Is there a team that can defeat the Chiefs in their home stadium in the playoffs in the AFC? I don't know if there is. Even if the Chiefs only win by one score.
The Eagles and I know this is a would of/should of comment, but if Hurts wouldn't have gotten hurt in the Washington game would they have won that game? Hell, they almost did without him. If Hurts can come back fully healthy and most likely he will definitely by the playoffs, they are the best team in the NFC.
I say it will be the Chiefs and the Eagles in the Super Bowl and I think the streak ends this year for Mahomes and the Chiefs as the Eagles will win it all.
The Eagles and I know this is a would of/should of comment, but if Hurts wouldn't have gotten hurt in the Washington game would they have won that game? Hell, they almost did without him. If Hurts can come back fully healthy and most likely he will definitely by the playoffs, they are the best team in the NFC.
I say it will be the Chiefs and the Eagles in the Super Bowl and I think the streak ends this year for Mahomes and the Chiefs as the Eagles will win it all.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
This thread is just a homer fest lol
Nevermore
Footballguy
Not me, as much as I'd love to have said the Ravens and I do think they are a top team, they are not the best team in the NFL in my opinion. I watched it year after year and it is extremely difficult for any team to defeat Kansas City in the playoffs when they play at home. That will once again be the case this year so nothing is going to change.
Yes, Buffalo and Baltimore
renesauz
IBL Representative
Too many very lucky bounces for the Chiefs, and in general the top of the NFC is much deeper. I wouldn't take the Chiefs above any of Philly/Detroit/Minn/GB/Buffalo TBH
A healthier Lions teams would be #1. Unfortunately, they aren't healthy. Went Philly, but could see a strong argument for Buffalo.
renesauz
IBL Representative
Come on now....like a BLOCKED FG isn't tremendously lucky? Not to mention making a long FG, OT wins vs what should have been inferior competition, etc etc. Their point differential, against an average at best schedule, is more indicative of a 12-5 type team. Good, perhaps worthy of being in this discussion, but FAR from being the no brainer choice. I stand by my statement above. I'd put them around #6 or 7 right now.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Steelers fans: I don’t want to talk about it
Nevermore
Footballguy
You think Buffalo and Baltimore can defeat the Chiefs in Kansas City in the playoffs? I hope you are correct, especially if it is Baltimore.
Nevermore
Footballguy
Who would you than say is the top choice?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
KC has the best record this year against teams that would currently make the playoffs and are obviously great in close games (11-0 this year in games decided by one score). Other teams are great at blowing teams out, but that means nothing come playoff time when the games are tighter. The idea that anyone but the 2-time defending champs who are 14-1 this year is the best team right now is absurd.
Nevermore
Footballguy
I can certainly understand that logic for sure. They are definitely at the top of the mountain and until someone can knock them off that mountain they sure deserve to be called the best. That is kind of obvious. The only team that has beat them this season is Buffalo and that was in Buffalo. The only other playoff teams so far the Chiefs have beaten on the road are the Falcons and the Chargers. They still have to play the Steelers this week and the Broncos in week 18 where the Chiefs might not be playing many starters, especially if they beat the Steelers tomorrow.
I do see the Chiefs making the Super Bowl once again because they most likely will have the home field advantage, but in the Super Bowl on a neutral field if the game stays close which with the Chiefs it seems like all their games stay that way anything could happen. Also with a player such as Saquon he is a player that can take over a game just like Mahomes can take over a game. If it comes down to the Eagles and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl it will be one hell of a game.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I apologize for including the Steelers as an option in this poll.
need2know
Footballguy
Yeah they are done
irish eyes
Footballguy
Yearly fraud. Why would anyone be surprised.
Nevermore
Footballguy
You are 100% correct that the Ravens are clicking on all cylinders at the correct time. I however want to see this sort of performance by the Ravens that I saw today against the Texans on the road against Buffalo on the road and also Kansas City on the road. I hope it happens.
Harjiran
Footballguy
The Commanders are just one Hail Mary away from victory over any team in the NFL. This year's team of destiny, you heard it here first my brothers. Jayden Daniels is like some sort of divine mixture of Tom Brady, RG3, Fred Astaire, and General George S. Patton. You cannot stop him - you can only hope to contain him. Of course this could just be the spiked eggnog talking.
To be fair, they just played the 2 best teams in the AFC. I mean, yes, there is no argument for the Steelers as even a candidate to be the NFL's best team, but I still they could win a playoff game, just depends on who they draw. I'd pick Pittsburgh to beat Houston, which is who they'd currently draw.
What's the argument for them not being #1? They are 11-0 in games Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown finish. All of their losses can be tied directly to not having one of those guys. Personally, I think the Eagles win by at least 14+ last week if Hurts doesn't get hurt. There is nothing to suggest he'll be out long, he may not even miss this week. I think Philly is 3rd AT WORST.
While they aren't #1, I want to give a bit of a shout out to Atlanta. I have no idea if Penix will be good, or how good he'll be if he is. But Cousins had been costing a good team multiple games. They have a good defense and can run as well as any team in the NFL. If Penix can keep defenses honest, and not be a turnover machine, I'd be pretty nervous about them pulling off an upset over maybe Minnesota or Green Bay. I think they could certainly win at Washington this week. I think the NFC wants Tampa to win the South.
I think the Ravens are #1, I've had them as the AFC's best team for a month, and have been arguing that they blew a couple games early, mostly due to a banged up defense, and some untimely Tucker misses. They could be 15-1 right now, with only 4 plays going differently. I think they are the clear cut class of the AFC,
I think the Lions and Eagles run the NFC. I'm possibly being unfair to the Vikings, but I can't help but expect it to fall apart come playoff time. The one playoff team I don't see as a real threat, is Washington. I think they've made a ton of progress this year, I think Daniels is the no-brainer rookie of the year, I think Quinn should be the coach of the year, but I also think this defense is a year away from stopping any good offense. I think they are the most likely 1-done team in the hunt.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Matt LaFleur started out 6-0 and 5-1 versus the NFC North his first two seasons (2019-2020).
- 2021 4-2 (1-1 vs Meathead)
- 2022 3-3 (0-2 vs Knuckledragger)
- 2023 4-2 (1-1 vs Big Dummy)
- 2024 1-3 (0-2 vs The Moron)
2-6 vs the Imbecile - dang, bro. Dude has a .722 winning percentage against coaches not named Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell vs the North:
- 2-4 (won their last 2)
- 5-1 (won their last 5)
- 4-2
- 5-0
That's pretty annoying, isn't it?
renesauz
IBL Representative
Two routine dropped passes from being 15-1 themselves. Solid point differential against a decent schedule. Chiefs are a good team, but have had the opposite kind of luck.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Chiefs have had extraordinary good fortune in the 4th quarter, including about 15 what-the-heck-was-that calls from officials (I saw a compilation video of 25 from this season but let’s be charitable.)
Eagles are an awesome team, strong on both sides of the ball. But at home they nearly lost to Jax and Carolina. The Jags drive down to the 13 with under two minutes before throwing an interception. The Panthers, trailing by 6, got to within FG range twice - the first with 8:39 left - and opted go for it twice. Credit the Eagles (very good) defense for getting the stops.
Nothing wrong with winning ugly, they all count, but have the other SB contenders had two letdowns versus non-divisional opponents?
Maybe it doesn’t mean anything. People fawn over Detroit for winning by 38 (twice) and 46, but what does a blowout prove? I think a team overcomes adversity - bad calls, injuries, missed assignments & mistakes, turnovers - to still come out on top, that tells you a lot about their character & perseverance.
Every game, especially in the playoffs, has adversity. When thinks go sideways you gotta put it away immediately. It’s done, on to the next play. Nobody cares if you give up 3 explosives in a row - if you come up with the big play on the 4th one.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Kansas City 15-1 PF 385 PA 288 PD 97 W6
picking up a lot of holiday votes now
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Kind of nuts the WC teams for the NFC could be 14-3, 12-5, & 12-5 - with a couple of 10-7/9-8 teams hosting them
2 v 7 might be 14-3 v 12-5
2 v 7 might be 14-3 v 12-5
Teams with winning records vs. teams with winning records (updated):
Next week offers up only three games to change the stat IF any of the many current 7-8 teams don't improve by two wins by seasons end: KC@Den, Sea@Rams and Minn@Det. It will be an awesome atmosphere if that Minn/Det game is flexed(as it should be!!!) and both teams come in at 14-2. What a game to close out this season!
As of today's standings, only two games this week might change this stat: Atl@Wash and GB@Minn.
Next week offers up only three games to change the stat IF any of the many current 7-8 teams don't improve by two wins by seasons end: KC@Den, Sea@Rams and Minn@Det. It will be an awesome atmosphere if that Minn/Det game is flexed(as it should be!!!) and both teams come in at 14-2. What a game to close out this season!
Nevermore
Footballguy
The Steelers, although I don't think they have any chance of making or winning the Super Bowl if the playoffs standings end in the AFC the way they are right now will most likely go on the road and get a victory over the Texans. The Texans in my opinion are in worse shape then them. After that, the Steelers will have no chance at moving forward. As of right now though they do have a pretty good chance of winning a playoff game.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Largest Margin of Victory 2024
| RANK | TEAM | DIFF | DATE | TEAM | H/A | OPP | RESULT | D | 1ST D | TOTAL YDS | YDS ALLOW | 3rd D % | 4th D % |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Lions | 46 | 11/17/2024 | DET | vs | JAX | 52-6 | 7 | 38 | 645 | 170 | 60.0 | 100.0 |
| 2 | Lions | 38 | 10/27/2024 | DET | vs | TEN | 52-14 | 7 | 17 | 225 | 416 | 33.3 | |
| 3 | Lions | 38 | 10/13/2024 | DET | @ | DAL | 47-9 | 5 | 27 | 492 | 251 | 40.0 | 50.0 |
| 4t | Bills | 37 | 9/23/2024 | BUF | vs | JAX | 47-10 | 6 | 25 | 388 | 239 | 54.5 | 100.0 |
| 4t | Saints | 37 | 9/8/2024 | NO | vs | CAR | 47-10 | 5 | 22 | 379 | 193 | 53.8 | |
| 6 | Packers | 34 | 12/23/2024 | GB | vs | NO | 34-0 | 4 | 24 | 404 | 196 | 46.2 | 100.0 |
| 7 | Commanders | 33 | 10/20/2024 | WAS | vs | CAR | 40-7 | 4 | 26 | 421 | 180 | 50.0 | |
| 8 | Broncos | 32 | 11/17/2024 | DEN | vs | ATL | 38-6 | 5 | 22 | 400 | 226 | 54.5 | 100.0 |
| 9t | Ravens | 31 | 11/3/2024 | BAL | vs | DEN | 41-10 | 5 | 25 | 396 | 319 | 37.5 | |
| 9t | Cardinals | 31 | 9/15/2024 | ARI | vs | LAR | 41-10 | 5 | 24 | 489 | 245 | 63.6 |
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Not exactly a murderer's row of opponents there
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Margin of victory to me is overrated anyway. What does running up the score really prove?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Nothing
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Kinda funny the Broncos are on both sides of that list - two weeks apart.
