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Bet the farm on Houston this weekend (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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Houston is +1 @Chicago last time I checked. I firmly believe Chicago is parading around like a Super Bowl contender but are far from it. Several games this season the defense has bailed them out. How many times can they score on defense and expect to win? I thought last week that a fan was going to have to come out of the stands and help carry Brian Urlacher across that goal line, has he ever looked slower? I thought NFLR was running the play in slow motion.

Chicago fans can bash back, no problem but come Sunday Night, it's going to be the Texans. I feel the OLine for Chicago is going to let them down hard and it would not surprise me if Cutler turns in one of those performances where he is looking at the pass rush and the blitz instead of down field for his receivers. Chicago has been trying to lose some games in the last many weeks, look for a high scoring defense to mask the fact they are not all that great on offense just yet. The Texans will not give this game away and should win decisively.

Back the truck up!!! :drive:

 
The defense has bailed them out? That doesn't even make sense.
Right, the defense has not been the driving force for the Bears this season, they aren't like tons of points better than every other one in FF terms, they haven't had any key returns for touchdowns, must be having MOP delusions of grandeur.
 
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I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
What about the Texans DLine vs the Bears OLine?
 
I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
What about the Texans DLine vs the Bears OLine?
With the field position Chicago will be getting, the Oline will be blocking downhill and Forte will be hitting the holes. Meanwhile, Bum Phillips bastardson will be busy drawing up quadruple teams for Brandon Marshall. He's going to run a box in 1 on Marshall.
 
I tend to agree here. I see the Texans d-line dominating the Bears O-line. Also, Houston's offensive line has proven to be one of the best in football.

I'd trust Schaub more than Cutler in a big game. (Although that's 1 part o-line and 1 part Cutler's decisions. Also, Cutler tends to play worse in evening games.

My only real concern is Daniels being banged up as I feel he is a huge part of their gameplan.

With all that being said, I like Houston 24-13.

 
Cutler is going to get throttled in this game. When he gets roughed up, he gets rattled. When he gets rattled, he turns into an interception machine. I've been wanting to see so much more out of the guy, but we really are at the stage of, what we see is what we get.

 
I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
The Green Bay was an anomoly. For some reason Kubiak had Schaub come out throwing the ball instead of establishing the run like they typically do. Not to mention it was their first game without arguably their defensive leader on a short week, against a good team in most likely a must win game. The Bears defense is really just an average defense that has been way above average in forcing turnovers. They causes fumbles and interceptions at a rate of nearly 2.5x the average nfl team (2.42x more likely to cause a fumble on any given run play, and 2.1x more likely to cause an INT on any given pass play). Those things even out. Not saying they'll drop down to average, but 2.5x is really high. They're weakness on defense is also the run (4.3 ypc, 22nd worse in the NFL) which coincides with Houstons strength.
 
I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
The Green Bay was an anomoly. For some reason Kubiak had Schaub come out throwing the ball instead of establishing the run like they typically do. Not to mention it was their first game without arguably their defensive leader on a short week, against a good team in most likely a must win game. The Bears defense is really just an average defense that has been way above average in forcing turnovers. They causes fumbles and interceptions at a rate of nearly 2.5x the average nfl team (2.42x more likely to cause a fumble on any given run play, and 2.1x more likely to cause an INT on any given pass play). Those things even out. Not saying they'll drop down to average, but 2.5x is really high. They're weakness on defense is also the run (4.3 ypc, 22nd worse in the NFL) which coincides with Houstons strength.
Excuses.I keep it simple. I think Houston is a finesse team while Chicago is a smash mouth team. Smash Mouth wins. Maybe I'm wrong but Houston has more to prove to me than Chicago does.ETA: Houston feasts on weak AFC South teams. Chicago actually has to play real teams, and when they run into AFC South teams they laugh and then demolish them.
 
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ETA: Houston feasts on weak AFC South teams. Chicago actually has to play real teams, and when they run into AFC South teams they laugh and then demolish them.
Not sure you have really paid attention to your boy's schedule this year if you think they are playing real teams.Houston has had a tougher schedule.Oh, and their defense is better than Chicago's IMO.
 
Houston is +1 @Chicago last time I checked. I firmly believe Chicago is parading around like a Super Bowl contender but are far from it. Several games this season the defense has bailed them out. How many times can they score on defense and expect to win? I thought last week that a fan was going to have to come out of the stands and help carry Brian Urlacher across that goal line, has he ever looked slower? I thought NFLR was running the play in slow motion.

Chicago fans can bash back, no problem but come Sunday Night, it's going to be the Texans. I feel the OLine for Chicago is going to let them down hard and it would not surprise me if Cutler turns in one of those performances where he is looking at the pass rush and the blitz instead of down field for his receivers. Chicago has been trying to lose some games in the last many weeks, look for a high scoring defense to mask the fact they are not all that great on offense just yet. The Texans will not give this game away and should win decisively.

Back the truck up!!! :drive:
Well said, I completely agree.
 
I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
Aaron Rogers>>>>>>> jay cutler
 
The defense has bailed them out? That doesn't even make sense.
Right, the defense has not been the driving force for the Bears this season, they aren't like tons of points better than every other one in FF terms, they haven't had any key returns for touchdowns, must be having MOP delusions of grandeur.
LOL, pretty sure he meant that the Defense is all that and a bag of chips. They take what they want, they make the turnovers happen, they don't bail the team out.The Bears defense is better than the Texans offense. I see Chicago winning this one fairly easily.
 
i doubt we'll see a blowout by either side... Bears D tends to play the "bend but dont break" routine where they will force you to drive the length of the field and then pounce on your mistakes, in years past that did not work because they were making big plays, this year it works because a few more playmakers have emerged... also i "would" think the bears coaching staff realizes that they have a big mismatch with the Oline vs their Dline so they will have something in the gameplan to counter that, meaning more forte in terms of screens, counters, draws, etc. to help slow that pass rush down... i think it will be very back and forth throughout and will be a very good game that is decided by one big mistake on either side... the difference is going to be a big play on defenese by the bears who has been doing it all year and i dont see any reason it doesnt continue so i'll go 23-20 bears

of course homerism is in effect but what else would you expect? :whistle:

 
I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
Aaron Rogers>>>>>>> jay cutler
Neither one plays defense. HTH.
 
I agree with MoP. The Bears had one of the easiest schedules so far, and now face one of the toughest the rest of the year. I don't want to bash them because they appear to be a very good team, but they don't look elite. Granted they have been destroying the crappy teams, but they did get embarrassed by the only good team they have played so far which also beat Houston. The Houston game will reveal exactly how good the Bears D really is. I expect Foster and the Texans O-line to light them up.

 
up to HOU +1.5

IMO I love a 6.5 point tease of:

Saints (NewOrleans)+9

Texans (Houston)+8

Also added 10pt 3 way tease of :

Patriots(NewEngland) -1 (-105)

Saints(NewOrleans) +12.5 (-105)

Texans(Houston) +11.5 (-105)

glll peas :banned:

 
The Bears weren't embarrassed by the Packers. The game was close throughout and the Packers scored on a fake field goal.

Also the Hou schedule hasn't exactly been a meat grinder either. Their loss to Gb was more "embarrassing" IMO

Mia- 30-10week 1 rookie qb

Jax-27-7

Den-31-17 before Peyton started being Peyton again

Tenn-38-17

NyJ- 23-17

Gb-24-42

Bal-43-13 good win here

Buf-21-9

 
I like the Houston pick but the lock of the week is Indy. Everyone bet all your money and your kids college funds on Indy.

 
Houston is +1 @Chicago last time I checked. I firmly believe Chicago is parading around like a Super Bowl contender but are far from it. Several games this season the defense has bailed them out. How many times can they score on defense and expect to win? I thought last week that a fan was going to have to come out of the stands and help carry Brian Urlacher across that goal line, has he ever looked slower? I thought NFLR was running the play in slow motion.

Chicago fans can bash back, no problem but come Sunday Night, it's going to be the Texans. I feel the OLine for Chicago is going to let them down hard and it would not surprise me if Cutler turns in one of those performances where he is looking at the pass rush and the blitz instead of down field for his receivers. Chicago has been trying to lose some games in the last many weeks, look for a high scoring defense to mask the fact they are not all that great on offense just yet. The Texans will not give this game away and should win decisively.

Back the truck up!!! :drive:
Ummmm, have you seen that Bears D? Best D in the league by far.
 
Well, the Bears O-line has trouble with edge rushers, which Watt is not. Their strength is up the middle, so that O-line problem the Bears have won't show up that much in this game. The Defenses are both excellent, but the Bears are the best team I have ever seen at taking away the ball. Both teams will be able to stop the opposing teams offense, without a doubt.

The difference in this game will be Hester on returns. National TV game, he will show up and change the game.

To "back up the truck" for either team here would be moronic, and the sign of someone who knows nothing about betting.

This should be a fun game if you like defense.

And just throwing this out there in response to the Rodgers>>>>>Cutler...

Cutler>>>>Schaub

Bears D>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Packers D

Get your popcorn ready, and if you want to back the truck up, bet the Pats and the over.

 
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This is the week that the loss of Cushing shows up and Chicago shuts down Houston. I am extremely confident in this for some reason. Bears corners can lock down AJ and their LBS can stuff the RBs...what does that leave Houston...esp with Daniels hip issue?

 
I couldn't disagree too much more.
I always respect my elders Mr Lipton but do you have any facts to back this up? What about Chicago has you thinking they will take this one?
I believe in the Bears D much more than Houston's O. Bears D punches Houston in the mouth early and Houston shows how soft they are....just like they did against Green Bay.
The Green Bay was an anomoly. For some reason Kubiak had Schaub come out throwing the ball instead of establishing the run like they typically do. Not to mention it was their first game without arguably their defensive leader on a short week, against a good team in most likely a must win game. The Bears defense is really just an average defense that has been way above average in forcing turnovers. They causes fumbles and interceptions at a rate of nearly 2.5x the average nfl team (2.42x more likely to cause a fumble on any given run play, and 2.1x more likely to cause an INT on any given pass play). Those things even out. Not saying they'll drop down to average, but 2.5x is really high. They're weakness on defense is also the run (4.3 ypc, 22nd worse in the NFL) which coincides with Houstons strength.
Average defense? Bahaha
 
This is the week that the loss of Cushing shows up and Chicago shuts down Houston. I am extremely confident in this for some reason. Bears corners can lock down AJ and their LBS can stuff the RBs...what does that leave Houston...esp with Daniels hip issue?
James Casey will fill in if Daniels is out. He is very versatile. While he splits time between FB and TE, he can play TE. He can make the catches and Graham will still play the role that Dressen played last year. While Cushing being out is a blow, the Texans still second against the run in the NFL. IMO, it will come down to turnovers which is always the case.It should be a good game but the Texans have not been known to play well in night games.
 
We get it, mop. You don't like Chicago, no need to start multiple threads on it.
It's not personal
:confused: I'm not the owner. It doesn't hurt my feelings that you don't like them. Saying their defense has been "bailing them out" is a silly statement, though. It makes absolutely no sense. Then dogging Urlacher because he looked slow returning an interception for a td? Plz... :yawn:
 
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It will be extremely hard for Houston to win if O.Daniels does not play on Sunday night. He has been a stud on offense and he would have helped to create seams in the cover 2 defense. Don't kid yourself into thinking that Casey/Graham is on the same level as Daniels.

 
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