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Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (2 Viewers)

LeVert!!!! Passing up the open 3 for a slam. Sweet move.
I'm hoping GR III watches the way LeVert aggressively creates shots for himself.

Man, I'd loved to see all these shooters come back along with McGary (replacing the bigs who should be done after this year).
I think Horford has one more year left. I have a hard time seeing Stauskas returning. GR3 should come back, but who knows. The way LeVert has improved this year, he will be in the NBA eventually as well. He is one of the most underrated players in the country.
Stauskas is currently projected as a second round pick. He'll be back. Robinson isn't projected to be drafted at all.

 
LeVert!!!! Passing up the open 3 for a slam. Sweet move.
I'm hoping GR III watches the way LeVert aggressively creates shots for himself.

Man, I'd loved to see all these shooters come back along with McGary (replacing the bigs who should be done after this year).
I think Horford has one more year left. I have a hard time seeing Stauskas returning. GR3 should come back, but who knows. The way LeVert has improved this year, he will be in the NBA eventually as well. He is one of the most underrated players in the country.
Stauskas is currently projected as a second round pick. He'll be back. Robinson isn't projected to be drafted at all.
Chad Forde has Stauskas 15th overall.
 
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I am not sure who beats Beilein for Coach of the Year.... :shrug:

ANN ARBOR -- John Beilein is on the short list for at least one national coach of the year award.

The United States Basketball Writers Association announced Friday that Michigan's head coach is one of 10 finalists for the 2014 Henry Iba National Coach of the Year award.

Beilein is the only Big Ten coach on the list, and he is joined by: Virginia's Tony Bennett, SMU's Larry Brown, Saint Louis' Jim Crews, Cincinnati's Mick Cronin, Florida's Billy Donovan, San Diego State's Steve Fisher, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, Creighton's Doug McDermott and Villanova's Jay Wright.
 
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I am not sure who beats Beilein for Coach of the Year.... :shrug:

ANN ARBOR -- John Beilein is on the short list for at least one national coach of the year award.

The United States Basketball Writers Association announced Friday that Michigan's head coach is one of 10 finalists for the 2014 Henry Iba National Coach of the Year award.

Beilein is the only Big Ten coach on the list, and he is joined by: Virginia's Tony Bennett, SMU's Larry Brown, Saint Louis' Jim Crews, Cincinnati's Mick Cronin, Florida's Billy Donovan, San Diego State's Steve Fisher, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, Creighton's Doug McDermott and Villanova's Jay Wright.
My vote goes to Bennett, but it would be between him and Beilein.

 
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I am not sure who beats Beilein for Coach of the Year.... :shrug:

ANN ARBOR -- John Beilein is on the short list for at least one national coach of the year award.

The United States Basketball Writers Association announced Friday that Michigan's head coach is one of 10 finalists for the 2014 Henry Iba National Coach of the Year award.

Beilein is the only Big Ten coach on the list, and he is joined by: Virginia's Tony Bennett, SMU's Larry Brown, Saint Louis' Jim Crews, Cincinnati's Mick Cronin, Florida's Billy Donovan, San Diego State's Steve Fisher, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, Creighton's Doug McDermott and Villanova's Jay Wright.
My vote goes to Bennett, but it would be between him and Beilein.
Bennett will take it but some worthy names on that list for sure.

 
Ilov80s said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I'm not into making lists, but his resume is outstanding. Obviously, needs a National Title to really cement it, but he has done an A level job at recruiting and player development. He found a lot of guys most big time schools were ignoring and turned them into or close to NBA quality players.
yeah cant be top 5 wo the champ. Top 10 no problem. Wouldnt say he has been great at recruiting but has been good at developing them with Burke and LaVert, both those guys came in not as first choices for Michigan

 
jon_mx said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I am not sure who beats Beilein for Coach of the Year.... :shrug:

ANN ARBOR -- John Beilein is on the short list for at least one national coach of the year award.

The United States Basketball Writers Association announced Friday that Michigan's head coach is one of 10 finalists for the 2014 Henry Iba National Coach of the Year award.

Beilein is the only Big Ten coach on the list, and he is joined by: Virginia's Tony Bennett, SMU's Larry Brown, Saint Louis' Jim Crews, Cincinnati's Mick Cronin, Florida's Billy Donovan, San Diego State's Steve Fisher, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, Creighton's Doug McDermott and Villanova's Jay Wright.
Think Bennett would get this. They came out of no where and might get a #1 seed now. 18-0 in SEC for Donavan is pretty impressive too

 
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Ilov80s said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I'm not into making lists, but his resume is outstanding. Obviously, needs a National Title to really cement it, but he has done an A level job at recruiting and player development. He found a lot of guys most big time schools were ignoring and turned them into or close to NBA quality players.
yeah cant be top 5 wo the champ. Top 10 no problem. Wouldnt say he has been great at recruiting but has been good at developing them with Burke and LaVert, both those guys came in not as first choices for Michigan
He has found a lot of really talented guys that most people overlooked: Burke, Lavert, Hardaway, Stauskas, Spike and I believe when they got an early commitment from GR3 he wasn't a highly ranked prospect.

 
Ilov80s said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I'm not into making lists, but his resume is outstanding. Obviously, needs a National Title to really cement it, but he has done an A level job at recruiting and player development. He found a lot of guys most big time schools were ignoring and turned them into or close to NBA quality players.
yeah cant be top 5 wo the champ. Top 10 no problem. Wouldnt say he has been great at recruiting but has been good at developing them with Burke and LaVert, both those guys came in not as first choices for Michigan
He has found a lot of really talented guys that most people overlooked: Burke, Lavert, Hardaway, Stauskas, Spike and I believe when they got an early commitment from GR3 he wasn't a highly ranked prospect.
yeah forgot about Spike he was a late what the heck we have an open spot recruit if I remember.

 
Ilov80s said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I'm not into making lists, but his resume is outstanding. Obviously, needs a National Title to really cement it, but he has done an A level job at recruiting and player development. He found a lot of guys most big time schools were ignoring and turned them into or close to NBA quality players.
yeah cant be top 5 wo the champ. Top 10 no problem. Wouldnt say he has been great at recruiting but has been good at developing them with Burke and LaVert, both those guys came in not as first choices for Michigan
He has found a lot of really talented guys that most people overlooked: Burke, Lavert, Hardaway, Stauskas, Spike and I believe when they got an early commitment from GR3 he wasn't a highly ranked prospect.
yeah forgot about Spike he was a late what the heck we have an open spot recruit if I remember.
Yeah, I think they were concerned there was a chance Trey might go pro after his 1st year and they didnt have any PGs. Michigan offered him real late in the process and Spike thought that someone was playing a prank on him. The only school recruiting him was Appalachin State.
 
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jon_mx said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I am not sure who beats Beilein for Coach of the Year.... :shrug:



ANN ARBOR -- John Beilein is on the short list for at least one national coach of the year award.

The United States Basketball Writers Association announced Friday that Michigan's head coach is one of 10 finalists for the 2014 Henry Iba National Coach of the Year award.

Beilein is the only Big Ten coach on the list, and he is joined by: Virginia's Tony Bennett, SMU's Larry Brown, Saint Louis' Jim Crews, Cincinnati's Mick Cronin, Florida's Billy Donovan, San Diego State's Steve Fisher, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, Creighton's Doug McDermott and Villanova's Jay Wright.
Doug McDermott is scoring 45 points and coaching too?!

 
jon_mx said:
Beilein has become one of the top 5 best coaches in the country.
:lol:
I am not sure who beats Beilein for Coach of the Year.... :shrug:

ANN ARBOR -- John Beilein is on the short list for at least one national coach of the year award.

The United States Basketball Writers Association announced Friday that Michigan's head coach is one of 10 finalists for the 2014 Henry Iba National Coach of the Year award.

Beilein is the only Big Ten coach on the list, and he is joined by: Virginia's Tony Bennett, SMU's Larry Brown, Saint Louis' Jim Crews, Cincinnati's Mick Cronin, Florida's Billy Donovan, San Diego State's Steve Fisher, Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, Creighton's Doug McDermott and Villanova's Jay Wright.
Doug McDermott is scoring 45 points and coaching too?!
Tony Bennett used to be a good singer back in the day too.

 
Aside from making some ####### FTs down the stretch, that was one of OSU's better games this year. Didn't let it get away from them after Sparty kept going up. Great game by Craft.

Wisconsin win puts Buckeyes at #4 seed I think which they'll need.

All that said, OSU won't make Sweet 16. May not win their first game depending on the matchup.

 
LeVert!!!! Passing up the open 3 for a slam. Sweet move.
I'm hoping GR III watches the way LeVert aggressively creates shots for himself.

Man, I'd loved to see all these shooters come back along with McGary (replacing the bigs who should be done after this year).
I think Horford has one more year left. I have a hard time seeing Stauskas returning. GR3 should come back, but who knows. The way LeVert has improved this year, he will be in the NBA eventually as well. He is one of the most underrated players in the country.
Stauskas is currently projected as a second round pick. He'll be back. Robinson isn't projected to be drafted at all.
My bet is Stauskas returns. If they get McGary back, and the freshmen develop? Robinson learning to his own game? LaVert continuing his fine play? Wow ...that'd be quite a team, and I think Stauskas would like to be part of it.

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I think the tournament will determine if Michigan or Wisconsin gets a two seed. I suspect one will be a 2 seed, the other a 3 seed.

 
Minnesota beating up on Penn State today, if the Gophers can win one game in the big 10 playoffs they should get a ticket to the big show. Wins against Ohio State, WI, and Iowa should put them in

 
LeVert!!!! Passing up the open 3 for a slam. Sweet move.
I'm hoping GR III watches the way LeVert aggressively creates shots for himself.

Man, I'd loved to see all these shooters come back along with McGary (replacing the bigs who should be done after this year).
I think Horford has one more year left. I have a hard time seeing Stauskas returning. GR3 should come back, but who knows. The way LeVert has improved this year, he will be in the NBA eventually as well. He is one of the most underrated players in the country.
Stauskas is currently projected as a second round pick. He'll be back. Robinson isn't projected to be drafted at all.
My bet is Stauskas returns. If they get McGary back, and the freshmen develop? Robinson learning to his own game? LaVert continuing his fine play? Wow ...that'd be quite a team, and I think Stauskas would like to be part of it.

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I think the tournament will determine if Michigan or Wisconsin gets a two seed. I suspect one will be a 2 seed, the other a 3 seed.
I would bet on Stauskas leaving. Why would someone who has moved up into a top 15 spot not go? Glen Robinson III should come back, but I doubt he even will. An early to mid-second rounder.

 
Aside from making some ####### FTs down the stretch, that was one of OSU's better games this year. Didn't let it get away from them after Sparty kept going up. Great game by Craft.

Wisconsin win puts Buckeyes at #4 seed I think which they'll need.

All that said, OSU won't make Sweet 16. May not win their first game depending on the matchup.
Matchups are huge for alot of teams come March. I think if it falls right we'll be playing on the 2nd Thurs/Fri, but that's it. Love Craft but this clearly wasn't the cast around him to make it work. But we have the shot to stifle teams in the tourney and hopefully score enough.

It's really a shame Thomas left. I'm not in these guys shoes, but it sure seems like many get real bad advice. The good news is, Loving looks very promising and we have what looks to be a couple solid players in the '14 class. If only we can get Kennard in '15..

 
Great game by Nebraska. So much for a 1 for UW.
Yeah, I recall watching their home opener against FGCU and the crowd was just as amped up as it was tonight. I had only seen them in one or two other games. Good win for Nebraska. They outplayed UW, especially down the stretch.

That said, can someone make a ####### free throw? I'm not saying UW would have won, but 10 missed free throws definitely hurt them big time. Not to mention the sieve-like defense in the paint rearing it's ugly head again. And the turnovers. And the poor games out of Dekker, Jackson.

Ultimately a 1 seed was unlikely to begin with but a 2 seed is still attainable if they make the B1GCG. Either way they should still get game(s) in Milwaukee which is nice. Wish I had tickets.

 
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Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.

 
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Can the #4 team in the B1G get left out of the tournament? Does Nebraska need at least 1 conference tournament win?
Nope...they are in. I was there yesterday and it was a great atmosphere. Tim Miles has done a great job so far and the new arena was rocking yesterday. They will likely be a 10-12 seed and a team that is ready to pull a first round upset.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
I'm certainly there with you on this one. I have a feeling the B1G is going to have issues in the tournament because of it. Can't expect them to change style they've run for decades in a year.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
I'm certainly there with you on this one. I have a feeling the B1G is going to have issues in the tournament because of it. Can't expect them to change style they've run for decades in a year.
I actually like the way the game is being called this year.... the players just need to adjust. Stop hand checking when you're beat by half a step, stop swiping at the ball when you're out of position. I think Michigan has done a great job at adjusting and look how things went for them. MSU constantly puts the other team in the double bonus because they're still doing the same old, same old.

One exception: post defenders should still be allowed to use some version of the forearm. It's physical down there and players need leverage. Don't force them to put two arms in the air and lose all of that leverage.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
There were a few pretty bad non-calls the other way also in the 2nd half. Overall, there probably was a bit of home cooking going on, but it was flowing both ways at times.

I do remember Izzo going bonkers when his guy was trying to get to the time line for a time out. I thought Craft was playing good/smart/physical and legal defense...he knew what the guard was trying to do and almost caused a turnover. Izzo is probably breathing easier today now that he'll probably never have to deal with Craft again.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
This exactly. I didn't have expectations for a win in the game and would have been OK with a loss, but as the game progressed I got more and more pissed at how bad the officiating was which in turned me getting pissed because they lost. The Payne call was awful he was outside the circle and basically stood there for a few seconds. I think OSU was in double bonus after 8 minutes in the 2nd half.

But not scoring a point in the last 4 and half minutes you don't deserve to win either.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
I'm certainly there with you on this one. I have a feeling the B1G is going to have issues in the tournament because of it. Can't expect them to change style they've run for decades in a year.
I think they have called it all year in the B1G already.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
I'm certainly there with you on this one. I have a feeling the B1G is going to have issues in the tournament because of it. Can't expect them to change style they've run for decades in a year.
I think they have called it all year in the B1G already.
Just my observations but in the B1G they get away with a lot more contact than they do in say the ACC. I agree it's called more frequently now in the B1G compared to last year, but it's not called nearly as strict as in the ACC.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
I'm certainly there with you on this one. I have a feeling the B1G is going to have issues in the tournament because of it. Can't expect them to change style they've run for decades in a year.
I actually like the way the game is being called this year.... the players just need to adjust. Stop hand checking when you're beat by half a step, stop swiping at the ball when you're out of position. I think Michigan has done a great job at adjusting and look how things went for them. MSU constantly puts the other team in the double bonus because they're still doing the same old, same old.

One exception: post defenders should still be allowed to use some version of the forearm. It's physical down there and players need leverage. Don't force them to put two arms in the air and lose all of that leverage.
It's probably be less of an issue for me if they gave another foul to the players. Coach B is always on his fundamentals of defense kick so it didn't surprise me that Michigan hasn't had a significant issue this year, but I do think if they want to move it to be more like the NBA, they need to add the additional foul to match the NBA.

 
That call against Payne was one of the worst I've seen all year. I'll gladly take it, but if I was a Sparty, my son would have heard a few words he shouldn't hear.

 
Didn't watch a second of the MSU vs OSU game. Was Izzo's #####ing about the refs justified or has he just moved to #####ing about them instead of being hurt? Seems a bit lopsided in the box score, but that usually only tells part of the story.
I'm a Sparty, so take my opinion with a grain of salt... the refs were awful. First, I STILL hate these new ticky-tack foul calls, but in yesterday's game, Craft was never called while everyone else was. On top of that, I can think of at least 3-4 times OSU was not called for blatant fouls, and one in particular where Payne was called for a block and was planted for 5 seconds (literally) before what should have been called a charge.

ETA: That being said, MSU played like crap. No half court offense AT ALL.
All you need to know was TV Teddy was the lead ref yesterday.

Sometimes I think Tom is a little quick to change guys out after they foul. None of his guys fouled out. His style: You commit a foul, you sit. He's done it his entire career. But I think a sometimes this hampers their ability to get into a good game flow. Yesterday was one of those times. Lots of interchangeable parts is good, but changing those parts out every couple minutes is tough to maintain a good game flow.

I thought our half court game looked the best it has in several games to be honest...except for that last 3-4 minute stretch of the game.

 
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All-Big Ten honors:

Stauskas, MICH

Harris, MSU

Marble, IOWA

Petteway, NEB

Kaminsky, WIS

Stauskas POY

Vonleh, IND, Freshman of Year

Miles, NEB COY (Coaches)

Beilein, MICH COY (Media)

 

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