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Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (2 Viewers)
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Best player in the country?
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
Still can't believe the Big 10 Network can't find anyone better than Jimmy Jackson to announce the games.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
I love Aaron Craft, but he's not the best PG on this team.
The Commish
Footballguy
Is he always this passive with his shot? He's beaten his guy MANY times tonight just to pass it out for a 3 or jump shot of some sort. It will be a lot of fun to watch him and Burke go at it this year.
GreatLakesMike
Footballguy
He doesn't have much of a shot. I'll be patient and "hope" that the problem is the coaches (Chris Jent) are working on getting rid of the hitch, but Craft's shot sucked with the hitch and has sucked through this "transition."I've seen multiple guys come through Matta's system and improve their shot by leaps and bounds, but not with a hitch. I'm not saying it can't happen, but based on my experience playing b-ball and from what I've seen as a fan, it's almost impossible to get rid of a hitch. Craft has a role. He's a great defender who is very good at running the half-court, but this team is not a half-court, pound it down into post team. Sullinger is playing for Boston.ETA: My guess is that you see Burke matching up with Scott a bit more than you think.
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Garrett
Footballguy
I always preferred Augustus Cornelius "Gus" Johnson, Jr.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Kanas at Ohio State @ 4 today 
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Nice win for Michigan State over Texas.
If Derrick Nix can play this well more often, and the backcourt can be less awful than it was today, MSU might be OK.
If Derrick Nix can play this well more often, and the backcourt can be less awful than it was today, MSU might be OK.
whoknew
Footballguy
ROCK CHALK! JAYHAWK!Kanas at Ohio State @ 4 today
Master of Past and Present
Footballguy
Ohio State looks absolutely fantastic for stretches but their offense just doesn't seem to have the juice to be consistent enough in the biggest games so far.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Agree. Shooting 30% won't win you many games.
Johnny Rock
Footballguy
Spanking Michigan St by 13, even at home, is a nice way to start the Big10 season. Go Gophers.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
nice win last night. if they played like that all season they would be about 11-2 right now.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Yep...nice to see.
whoknew
Footballguy
Yea. They are pretty good.Trey Burke is a POY candidate.
The Commish
Footballguy
Both their games against NW went to OT last year. There are a ton of weapons on this team and with Stauskas shooting the 3 like he is, they'll be a tough out should things continue as they are.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Lots of weapons on this team ...no weak spots in the starting five.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
And a pretty decent bench, Mcgary is improving. He isn't a big scoring threat, but he is getting boards and impacting shots in the paint. Spike Albrecht is an upgrade at backup PG. Spike is efficiently running the offense. Really, this team is going 9 guys deep.
The Commish
Footballguy
These guys are all getting quality time too. They made mention of Michigan's fouling situation during the game. All these guys are playing out of luxury, not necessity (because of foul trouble). McGary is improving. He no longer looks completely lost on the court. I love the big dude's hustle! He still has his moments and I think his scoring will come. It'll just take some time.
The reason I think, which many think is/was crazy, that this Michigan team is perhaps their best team ever is this is the first time they were a well coached team. They might not have a player on the caliber of a Glen Rice or Chris Webber, but they run a great offense and have a ton of talent. Those years they rode the coat tails of a mega-talented player with a very good supporting cast, but they were fairly undeciplined. The level of coaching in the Big 10 is phenomenal, and it was pretty clear 3 to 4 years ago that the Big 10 was going to become the dominant conference. Hell, the Illini are even a well coached team now. Really good team basketball in the Big 10.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Just another typical B1G officiated game
The General
Footballguy
I didn't watch but looking at box score total PF's called were pretty even for both teams. Purdue shot like crap especially from line and 3's.Just another typical B1G officiated game
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
There were a couple really bad calls that went against Purdue that turned the momentum a little. The "accidental elbow = technical" rule really sucks. Even Izzo wasn't happy about that call since he got screwed by it earlier in the year.That said, I assume/hope MSU was going to pull away at some point anyway.I didn't watch but looking at box score total PF's called were pretty even for both teams. Purdue shot like crap especially from line and 3's.Just another typical B1G officiated game
The General
Footballguy
Yup, it's going to be brutal for all B10 teams this year. Indiana has 9 left as well 4 of those in the last 2 1/2 weeks of the season. Should be similar to Big East a few years back when they sent a ton of teams to the tourney. These guys will beat each other up but when they lose to another ranked team it won't hurt their ranking too much.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
ya, just a 4 point swing plus possession which turned into the most ridiculous post-rebound "charge" call on Hammons which was his 3rd foul. He went to the bench, M$U scored, and it wasn't close after that.There were a couple really bad calls that went against Purdue that turned the momentum a little. The "accidental elbow = technical" rule really sucks. Even Izzo wasn't happy about that call since he got screwed by it earlier in the year.That said, I assume/hope MSU was going to pull away at some point anyway.I didn't watch but looking at box score total PF's called were pretty even for both teams. Purdue shot like crap especially from line and 3's.Just another typical B1G officiated game
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
First time in a long time I've witnessed MSU get some definite home-cooking calls. That said, I agree with SR that I figured at some point we'd pull ahead for good.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
The back to back calls on Johnson and Hammonds completely changed the game. It was over after that.'The General said:I didn't watch but looking at box score total PF's called were pretty even for both teams. Purdue shot like crap especially from line and 3's.'r0llin_game said:Just another typical B1G officiated game'urbanhack said:
The General
Footballguy
Regardless of calls good teams much less a mediocre Purdue team are going to win at MSU shooting less than 50% from line and 30% from 3.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Agreed, but it was just a momentum changer and I think it affected the Boilers because of their youth. This is going to be a fun year IMO, no expectations and they will learn by taking their hard knocks. I think they'll pull off a few upsets this year, but they will struggle on the road.
The General
Footballguy
Agree with all that. After the start of their season you gotta feel great with the Illinois win. From what I read incoming class is great, Painter is a great coach. IU / Purdue rivalry is relevant again - love it.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Not the first time B1G refs thought they were bigger than the game being played and won't be the last. We've been on the opposite side of those types of calls many times as well.The back to back calls on Johnson and Hammonds completely changed the game. It was over after that.'The General said:I didn't watch but looking at box score total PF's called were pretty even for both teams. Purdue shot like crap especially from line and 3's.'r0llin_game said:Just another typical B1G officiated game'urbanhack said:
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
How does Oladipo compare to Craft in terms of man defense? People hyped Craft up, but Burke did ok against him as a freshman. Craft is supposed to be the best defender.
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Going to be very very tough to win on the road this year in the B1G.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Ohio State's overrated. They have no inside game and can't shoot. That's a problem. Will finish 5th or 6th in the conference at best.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
McGary and GR3 are really playing well today. McGary looked clumsy and lost the first few weeks of the year, now he is running the fast break, blocking dunks, dunking on guys and making midrange jumpers. This guy can really play.
You can make a case for either of these guys. Oladipo was a great defensive player last year, but was considered somewhat one-dimensional. He has elevated his game so much this year he has to be considered one of the top players in the country.
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