Bill Belichick Will Not Play to Win The Game This Weekend (1 Viewer)

[bostonfred]

There is a small amount of merit to this. In 2001, the Pats played a completely different game against the Rams in the Superbowl than they did in the regular season. In 2006, the Pats lost to the Colts in the regular season, but were absolutely dominating them in the first half of the game. I don't think that he's tanking or even playing "vanilla", but he may play differently this week than the next time, and this may be his "plan B" gameplan.

 

[daveandken]

Ya, and the Chargers have been playing their plan B gameplan all year so that noone finds out how good they really are.

Sorry folks, NFL teams try to win every week. There's no holding back.

Good try on the preemptive backtracking in case your favorite team loses though. I guess if it makes you sleep better at night...

 

[benm3218]

Ya, and the Chargers have been playing their plan B gameplan all year so that noone finds out how good they really are. Sorry folks, NFL teams try to win every week. There's no holding back. Good try on the preemptive backtracking in case your favorite team loses though. I guess if it makes you sleep better at night...

I am a Titan's fan. I hate the Patriots. I wonder how many passes "the real 81" will drop Sunday?

 

[daveandken]

Ya, and the Chargers have been playing their plan B gameplan all year so that noone finds out how good they really are. Sorry folks, NFL teams try to win every week. There's no holding back. Good try on the preemptive backtracking in case your favorite team loses though. I guess if it makes you sleep better at night...

I am a Titan's fan. I hate the Patriots. I wonder how many passes "the real 81" will drop Sunday?

If he drops any its definitely because he doesnt want to show the league how great his hands are. He's saving that for the playoffs. Genius!

 

[benm3218]

Ya, and the Chargers have been playing their plan B gameplan all year so that noone finds out how good they really are. Sorry folks, NFL teams try to win every week. There's no holding back. Good try on the preemptive backtracking in case your favorite team loses though. I guess if it makes you sleep better at night...

I am a Titan's fan. I hate the Patriots. I wonder how many passes "the real 81" will drop Sunday?

If he drops any its definitely because he doesnt want to show the league how great his hands are. He's saving that for the playoffs. Genius!

ha! have you ever heard TO try to express himself? not so genius.

 

[BusterTBronco]

I don't think so. I think the Patriots coaches, players, and fans truly believe that they can go undefeated this year. What if they went 15-1 and this was the only game they lost? They would never forgive themselves.

 

[daveandken]

Ya, and the Chargers have been playing their plan B gameplan all year so that noone finds out how good they really are. Sorry folks, NFL teams try to win every week. There's no holding back. Good try on the preemptive backtracking in case your favorite team loses though. I guess if it makes you sleep better at night...

I am a Titan's fan. I hate the Patriots. I wonder how many passes "the real 81" will drop Sunday?

If he drops any its definitely because he doesnt want to show the league how great his hands are. He's saving that for the playoffs. Genius!

ha! have you ever heard TO try to express himself? not so genius.

Evidently you missed the point.

 

[Mustang Man]

I was listening to the Moving The Chains show on Sirius about 5 minutes ago, they were talking about the difference in the way that Bill Belichick played the Steelers during the regular season and the way he destroyed them in the play-offs.IMPORTANT: They did not insinuate that Belichick would throw a game on purpose, but I am for the sake of argument.So, Belichick knows he can beat the Cowboys any day of the week with his eye's closed. He also knows he is going to the Superbowl right? We all pretty much say that on a regular basis. Moss IS better than Owens. Brady is better than Romo and go on and on the skill positions for the Patriots are better and the coaching is better. I submit to you all, that the Patriots will lose this week due to vanilla defense play calling, or win even though they reveal nothing truly damaging on the defensive play calls. I think there is a good chance they can win even if they call basic simple defensive plays, but I guarantee you that they won't give anything away on defense and that Belichick wouldn't mind losing this game.

You have to be a real numb nuts to believe this nonsense or insinuate. The Pats need to win to stay with the Colts for homefield advantage. BB may not show all his cards but he knows he needs this win and losing a game to Dallas he is not worried about but falling a game behind Indy he is. If the Pats lose it will be because they got beat not because BB is trying not to show Dallas all his tricks. SO LAME. Beside, if the Pats can kick the Cowboys #### any day of the week it should not matter if they show all their cards this time around . SO STUPID. Not mention if they did play each other in the Super bowl both teams would be very different by then. Injuries, Terry Glenn could be playing A. Henry would most likely be playing G.Ellis would may be playing full time all the rookies would have more experience. JUST A PLAIN STUPID STATEMENT. Maybe BB does well the second time arould because he see things first hand, I doubt it is because he is holding back, I can't believe that this was even posted.

 

[shader]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.

Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

 

[Mustang Man]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

Can't do nothing about it. Last time I checked Pitt and Indy are the last two SB CHAMPS. NE is a great team but let's not get carried away.

 

[Jayrod]

This Pats conspiracy theory is way off base.

Now THIS ONE was freaking on the money. Unfortunately I didn't draft accordingly

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

*Lies*They have lost the last two years only because of a long term plan of making everyone think Pittsburgh and Indy were the best teams those years. What everyone didn't know but Bellicheck himself was that he was thinking all along about going undefeated this year and going to catch everyone buy surprise.Winning every year is just too easy for them........losing and fooling everyone else into thinking other teams are better is much harder.What everyone doesn't know is this; Jerry Jones the owner of the Cowboys has been doing this forever. He found it so easy in the 90's that he decided to not win to throw everybody off only to wait until this point in time to spring his trap. To prove to everyone his greatness.

 

[Ozymandias]

The problem with Belicheck is he outsmarts himself sometimes. Why, just last year he was keeping his defense under wraps for the Superbowl, and he used the vanilla flavor to let the Colts lay 38 points on them.

If it weren't for outsmarting himself, he'd have 15 Superbowl rings by now.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

*Lies*They have lost the last two years only because of a long term plan of making everyone think Pittsburgh and Indy were the best teams those years. What everyone didn't know but Bellicheck himself was that he was thinking all along about going undefeated this year and going to catch everyone buy surprise.Winning every year is just too easy for them........losing and fooling everyone else into thinking other teams are better is much harder.What everyone doesn't know is this; Jerry Jones the owner of the Cowboys has been doing this forever. He found it so easy in the 90's that he decided to not win to throw everybody off only to wait until this point in time to spring his trap. To prove to everyone his greatness.

Your post reads like a hentai comic.I like it.

 

[redman]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

*Lies*They have lost the last two years only because of a long term plan of making everyone think Pittsburgh and Indy were the best teams those years. What everyone didn't know but Bellicheck himself was that he was thinking all along about going undefeated this year and going to catch everyone buy surprise.Winning every year is just too easy for them........losing and fooling everyone else into thinking other teams are better is much harder.What everyone doesn't know is this; Jerry Jones the owner of the Cowboys has been doing this forever. He found it so easy in the 90's that he decided to not win to throw everybody off only to wait until this point in time to spring his trap. To prove to everyone his greatness.

Your post reads like a hentai comic.I like it.

Acting lame, the preyis fooled, drawn in to be killed, its the hoodie's plan.:gong:

 

[DoubleG]

I would expect a very vanilla first half from the Pats. If they're ahead I would expect more Vanilla. If they are behind or it's close, I would expect him to just unload and open things up. Everyone will be watching this one and he won't give too much away. The only way they see Dallas again is in the SB and that's a lot of variables. He will most likely see Indy and/or Pittsburgh in the playoffs. He will only show as much as he has to this week. Should be a great game though.

It is this type of pompus thinking that makes me go from just trying to enjoy the game and see what happens to clenching my fist and shouting at the TV beat the Patriots.To think that the Patriots can go into the game and come out vanilla and be ahead at halftime is funny. I actually wish many of the posters in this thread were coaching the Patriots.Unfortunately for the Cowboys you are not which means that New England isn't going to be Vanilla and they'll open things up early and often.I'd be willing to bet in Vegas that if New England wins the toss and receives the ball, the very first play of the game is a bomb to Moss. That ball may be caught, dropped or overthrown but it sends a message that we're here to play and you better cover the entire field.

no one doubts you. The Pats will outscore the boys for sure. I am simply saying Bill won't play his best defense, he'll keep it under wraps.

Kinda like Lou Pinella saved Zambrano and Lily for games 4 and 5 of the NLDS by not letting them pitch too much in games one and two...

 

[JohnnyU]

The problem with Belicheck is he outsmarts himself sometimes. Why, just last year he was keeping his defense under wraps for the Superbowl, and he used the vanilla flavor to let the Colts lay 38 points on them.If it weren't for outsmarting himself, he'd have 15 Superbowl rings by now.

I believe the reason why he sucked in Cleveland was because he didn't want the rest of the league to know he was a genius too quickly

 

[DoubleG]

The problem with Belicheck is he outsmarts himself sometimes. Why, just last year he was keeping his defense under wraps for the Superbowl, and he used the vanilla flavor to let the Colts lay 38 points on them.If it weren't for outsmarting himself, he'd have 15 Superbowl rings by now.

I believe the reason why he sucked in Cleveland was because he didn't want the rest of the league to know he was a genius too quickly

Or maybe he let the Colts win last year, so he could really whip there ###es this year?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

There is a small amount of merit to this. In 2001, the Pats played a completely different game against the Rams in the Superbowl than they did in the regular season. In 2006, the Pats lost to the Colts in the regular season, but were absolutely dominating them in the first half of the game. I don't think that he's tanking or even playing "vanilla", but he may play differently this week than the next time, and this may be his "plan B" gameplan.

I know what you're saying Fred and it may even be partially true but the whole idea kind of comes off the wrong way. Being a Pats fan it may be hard to see it from the other side but it's like damn'd if you do, damn'd if you don't here.If the Cowboys win, it's because it's the "B" gameplan but if the Pats win.....they're just superior. I mean, something's got to give.I don't know, I guess it really doesn't matter. Dallas needs to go out and put their "A" game out on the table and try to get a win. If it's against New England's "B" gameplan, then shame on New England for bringing anything less. The people on that field get paid a heck of a lot of money and the people watching in the seats pay a lot to see their best, even if the Patriots can win with a "B" game. This isn't preseason, this isn't week 15 and they have a good chance at meeting this team in just 2 weeks in a playoff game, it's week 6 and they're currently tied with Indy for home field advantage with a road game vs. Indy, I'd think they'd bring everything they have.

 

[Sleeper 43]

I don't think so. I think the Patriots coaches, players, and fans truly believe that they can go undefeated this year. What if they went 15-1 and this was the only game they lost? They would never forgive themselves.

Through all this crap someone got it. Belichick's ego wont let him not try to go undefeated this season.Its hard enough to get home field advantage let alone "take it lite" on a game

 

[purestrength]

The problem with Belicheck is he outsmarts himself sometimes. Why, just last year he was keeping his defense under wraps for the Superbowl, and he used the vanilla flavor to let the Colts lay 38 points on them.If it weren't for outsmarting himself, he'd have 15 Superbowl rings by now.

I believe the reason why he sucked in Cleveland was because he didn't want the rest of the league to know he was a genius too quickly

Or maybe he let the Colts win last year, so he could really whip there ###es this year?

Nah, he'll let the Colts beat 'em twice this year (regular season and playoffs) so he can really, really let Manning and Dungy have it NEXT year.

 

[PatsWillWin]

People should know a little something about football before they start threads talking about football.

 

[PatsWillWin]

There is a small amount of merit to this. In 2001, the Pats played a completely different game against the Rams in the Superbowl than they did in the regular season. In 2006, the Pats lost to the Colts in the regular season, but were absolutely dominating them in the first half of the game. I don't think that he's tanking or even playing "vanilla", but he may play differently this week than the next time, and this may be his "plan B" gameplan.

So you take two examples in which the Patriots play a team better the second time around and use it as evidence that the Patriots were playing rope-a-dope the first time around?Why would you not just think that Belichick can learn a lot of a previous game?And I love the idea that when the Patriots played the Rams in the regular season they were saving some stuff up since it was so obvious that the '01 team was going to go the Super Bowl and see the Rams, lol.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

*Lies*They have lost the last two years only because of a long term plan of making everyone think Pittsburgh and Indy were the best teams those years. What everyone didn't know but Bellicheck himself was that he was thinking all along about going undefeated this year and going to catch everyone buy surprise.Winning every year is just too easy for them........losing and fooling everyone else into thinking other teams are better is much harder.What everyone doesn't know is this; Jerry Jones the owner of the Cowboys has been doing this forever. He found it so easy in the 90's that he decided to not win to throw everybody off only to wait until this point in time to spring his trap. To prove to everyone his greatness.

Your post reads like a hentai comic.I like it.

Acting lame, the preyis fooled, drawn in to be killed, its the hoodie's plan.:gong:

I said hentai, not haiku!You get style points anyway.

 

[redman]

Oh come on. It's not like Belicheck has a bunch of super-secret plays in his back pocket, or unique defensive formations that he is holding on to. The team has won 3 super bowls, a ton of regular season games over the past 6 years, and have left it all out on the table many times.

Belicheck will go for the win, and while there may be a few things they hold back, it's minimal. The league knows whats coming, they just can't do anything about it.

*Lies*They have lost the last two years only because of a long term plan of making everyone think Pittsburgh and Indy were the best teams those years.

What everyone didn't know but Bellicheck himself was that he was thinking all along about going undefeated this year and going to catch everyone buy surprise.

Winning every year is just too easy for them........losing and fooling everyone else into thinking other teams are better is much harder.

What everyone doesn't know is this; Jerry Jones the owner of the Cowboys has been doing this forever. He found it so easy in the 90's that he decided to not win to throw everybody off only to wait until this point in time to spring his trap. To prove to everyone his greatness.

Your post reads like a hentai comic.I like it.

Acting lame, the preyis fooled, drawn in to be killed,

its the hoodie's plan.

:gong:

I said hentai, not haiku!You get style points anyway.

I know the difference, however . . .I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so!

 

[kellumsboys]

Belichick will not lose this game because he wants to prove to everyone that the Patroits really are "America's Team" and not the Cowboys.

seems as logical as any others theories I've read on this thread.

 

[benm3218]

So did the Patriots reveal alot? NOPE.

October 17, 2007, 10:04

Patriots, Cowboys :: WR

WR Crayton States 'Patriots Defense Not That Good'

Tom Orsborn, San Antonio Express-News - [Full Article]

Far from being in awe of the New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys WR Patrick Crayton says that his team will be in the Super Bowl but he isn't so sure about the Patriots. "If they make it to Arizona, we will see them again," Crayton said Monday. "Seriously, I'm not backing down from that statement. I told my coach that yesterday, and I'm saying it now. Offensively, they are the real deal. I'm not going to lie about that. Defensively? I can tell you, no, they're not at all. The only time they stopped us is when we had penalties. If that's stopping us, it is what it is. Defensively, they're not the real deal."

 

[meeka]

So did the Patriots reveal alot? NOPE.October 17, 2007, 10:04 Patriots, Cowboys :: WRWR Crayton States 'Patriots Defense Not That Good'Tom Orsborn, San Antonio Express-News - [Full Article]Far from being in awe of the New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys WR Patrick Crayton says that his team will be in the Super Bowl but he isn't so sure about the Patriots. "If they make it to Arizona, we will see them again," Crayton said Monday. "Seriously, I'm not backing down from that statement. I told my coach that yesterday, and I'm saying it now. Offensively, they are the real deal. I'm not going to lie about that. Defensively? I can tell you, no, they're not at all. The only time they stopped us is when we had penalties. If that's stopping us, it is what it is. Defensively, they're not the real deal."

Why would anyone go out of their way to say something like this. Stupid.

 

[PatsWillWin]

So did the Patriots reveal alot? NOPE.October 17, 2007, 10:04 Patriots, Cowboys :: WRWR Crayton States 'Patriots Defense Not That Good'Tom Orsborn, San Antonio Express-News - [Full Article]Far from being in awe of the New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys WR Patrick Crayton says that his team will be in the Super Bowl but he isn't so sure about the Patriots. "If they make it to Arizona, we will see them again," Crayton said Monday. "Seriously, I'm not backing down from that statement. I told my coach that yesterday, and I'm saying it now. Offensively, they are the real deal. I'm not going to lie about that. Defensively? I can tell you, no, they're not at all. The only time they stopped us is when we had penalties. If that's stopping us, it is what it is. Defensively, they're not the real deal."

This proves that the Patriots were not playing to win?

 

[switz]

So did the Patriots reveal alot? NOPE.October 17, 2007, 10:04 Patriots, Cowboys :: WRWR Crayton States 'Patriots Defense Not That Good'Tom Orsborn, San Antonio Express-News - [Full Article]Far from being in awe of the New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys WR Patrick Crayton says that his team will be in the Super Bowl but he isn't so sure about the Patriots. "If they make it to Arizona, we will see them again," Crayton said Monday. "Seriously, I'm not backing down from that statement. I told my coach that yesterday, and I'm saying it now. Offensively, they are the real deal. I'm not going to lie about that. Defensively? I can tell you, no, they're not at all. The only time they stopped us is when we had penalties. If that's stopping us, it is what it is. Defensively, they're not the real deal."

This proves that the Patriots were not playing to win?

Yeah, I mean obviously the PAtriots have been faking it on defense all year. Hey, how's this for a thought - maybe Belichek knew his D was getting long in the tooth and not as dominant as they used to be, and the easiest way to counter that was to build up the offense. He grabbed AT in the offseason, and then pretty much focused on the O.

 

[PhD]

So did the Patriots reveal alot? NOPE.October 17, 2007, 10:04 Patriots, Cowboys :: WRWR Crayton States 'Patriots Defense Not That Good'Tom Orsborn, San Antonio Express-News - [Full Article]Far from being in awe of the New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys WR Patrick Crayton says that his team will be in the Super Bowl but he isn't so sure about the Patriots. "If they make it to Arizona, we will see them again," Crayton said Monday. "Seriously, I'm not backing down from that statement. I told my coach that yesterday, and I'm saying it now. Offensively, they are the real deal. I'm not going to lie about that. Defensively? I can tell you, no, they're not at all. The only time they stopped us is when we had penalties. If that's stopping us, it is what it is. Defensively, they're not the real deal."

... OR Crayton was right... is it that the Patriots CHOSE not to reveal much, or that they COULDN'T reveal much...

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

So did the Patriots reveal alot? NOPE.

October 17, 2007, 10:04

Patriots, Cowboys :: WR

WR Crayton States 'Patriots Defense Not That Good'

Tom Orsborn, San Antonio Express-News - [Full Article]

Far from being in awe of the New England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys WR Patrick Crayton says that his team will be in the Super Bowl but he isn't so sure about the Patriots. "If they make it to Arizona, we will see them again," Crayton said Monday. "Seriously, I'm not backing down from that statement. I told my coach that yesterday, and I'm saying it now. Offensively, they are the real deal. I'm not going to lie about that. Defensively? I can tell you, no, they're not at all. The only time they stopped us is when we had penalties. If that's stopping us, it is what it is. Defensively, they're not the real deal."

Heaven help him and the Cowboys in the event of a Patriots Cowboys superbowl. Rodney Harrison will eat his liver with a nice chianti.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I would expect a very vanilla first half from the Pats. If they're ahead I would expect more Vanilla. If they are behind or it's close, I would expect him to just unload and open things up. Everyone will be watching this one and he won't give too much away. The only way they see Dallas again is in the SB and that's a lot of variables. He will most likely see Indy and/or Pittsburgh in the playoffs. He will only show as much as he has to this week. Should be a great game though.

It is this type of pompus thinking that makes me go from just trying to enjoy the game and see what happens to clenching my fist and shouting at the TV beat the Patriots.To think that the Patriots can go into the game and come out vanilla and be ahead at halftime is funny. I actually wish many of the posters in this thread were coaching the Patriots.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys you are not which means that New England isn't going to be Vanilla and they'll open things up early and often.



I'd be willing to bet in Vegas that if New England wins the toss and receives the ball, the very first play of the game is a bomb to Moss. That ball may be caught, dropped or overthrown but it sends a message that we're here to play and you better cover the entire field.

Since this thread was bumped by someone else, I might as well do a midweek tooting of the horn *toot toot*

 

[twitch]

I would expect a very vanilla first half from the Pats. If they're ahead I would expect more Vanilla. If they are behind or it's close, I would expect him to just unload and open things up. Everyone will be watching this one and he won't give too much away. The only way they see Dallas again is in the SB and that's a lot of variables. He will most likely see Indy and/or Pittsburgh in the playoffs. He will only show as much as he has to this week. Should be a great game though.

It is this type of pompus thinking that makes me go from just trying to enjoy the game and see what happens to clenching my fist and shouting at the TV beat the Patriots.To think that the Patriots can go into the game and come out vanilla and be ahead at halftime is funny. I actually wish many of the posters in this thread were coaching the Patriots.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys you are not which means that New England isn't going to be Vanilla and they'll open things up early and often.



I'd be willing to bet in Vegas that if New England wins the toss and receives the ball, the very first play of the game is a bomb to Moss. That ball may be caught, dropped or overthrown but it sends a message that we're here to play and you better cover the entire field.

Since this thread was bumped by someone else, I might as well do a midweek tooting of the horn *toot toot*

alright, Ill give it up. good call. but man a completion there would have been nice.

 

[The Jerk]

From the "Belichick is holding back because he's a genius" school come the following thoughts:

Best Performance by a New Coach

Cam Cameron may be the next genius in the AFC East. 0-6 Dolphins clearly not revealing ANYTHING they don't want to.

Lifetime Coaching Achievement Award

Norv Turner -- his next game will be #150 (counting 2 playoff games); he's looking for win #63.

Franchise Achievement Award

The Cardinals, Lions and Saints have a combined four playoff wins in the past 40 seasons. I wonder when they will decide that they have all the other teams right where they want them and then start rolling out their dynasties.