Bill Cosby lectures New Orleans blacks (1 Viewer)

[doughboydeluxe]

Cosby = class act.

A few years ago after the Patrick Dennehy murder at Baylor in 2003, Cosby gave a free show/pep rally at Baylor to help lift the spirits of the campus and community. He didn't get paid for it, and he didn't even go to school there... he wasn't even asked to do it. He just called up the president of the university and asked if he could do it. Class act all the way.

Here's a link to the story from Baylor's web site. GB Bill for wearing a Baylor Track shirt!

 

[Tiger Fan]

You're right....but Jackson/Sharpton was to find ways to force them to vote

Not that I think JJ and Al have pure motives here, but if the displaced folks want to vote in NO's elections, they have every right.

What if the elections were in November? Would they still have a right. What if they were next year?

If they intend to move back, why not?If I had to take a job in New York for a year or two, I'd still want to vote in Columbus elections. Same with military personnel, students, whatever.

B/c they aren't truely residents then. What we are facing is completely different from military, students, etc.I can "intend" to move to New York, but it doesn't mean I can vote in their elections.

A lot of these people rented places that do not exist anymore. They can want to move back as hard as they can, but the tough reality is that there is no place for a majority of them to move back to.

Tough decisions have to be made in this process. And New Orleans shouldn't allow people who can not feasibly move back in the short to medium term to vote on those who will be making those decisions.

I know it sounds harsh, but it's a harsh situation.

Right now, there are jobs to be had in the New Orleans area....but housing is hard to come by. New housing can't be built overnight, and when housing gets renovated, then it is available for premium prices....and those lower income folks who were renting before Katrina don't have the means to get back.

Life isn't fair.

 

[saintsfan]

Another example of our soceity has evolved.

Politicians blaming each other for the world's wrongs.

And comedians speaking the truth.

And correct me if I am worng, but if you don't live in the city anymore then you shouldn't be voting in their local elections.

The voters in the other cities can already vote absentee. The problem is that Jackson and Sharpton know that large numbers of the evacuees will not vote absentee. They view this as disenfranchisment. I view it as lazy.Also, how long should these people be allowed to vote in a New Orleans election? There has to be a time limit. Is the criteria for Jackson and Sharpton that these people be allowed to vote in New Orleans elections unitl every single one of them is back home? That seems unrealistic.

The bottom line is that Jackson and Sharpton know that the New Orleans election, for the first time since the 1070's could result in a white mayor.

Until they can move back to their homes or the homes are sold?

So how do those that didn't own the homes fit in?

Not sure. But I would say that there are many renters would like to move back but can't because their places are gone to. Shouldn't they have some say in their city? I rent that doesn't mean I don't care what happens in Charlotte. The whole thing is very complex I think not really sure what the solution is but I think encouraging people to vote and doing what you can to make it happen is usually for the best.

if you don't have a home then you are not a resident. it's unfortunate that those who rented don't have a place to go back to. but it's tough. life ain't fair.those people have 2 options:

1. Come back to New Orleans and find a job and a place to live

2. Go elsewhere

Not rocket science here

Pretty dumb statement in bold. Property ownership isn't a requirement for residency.

Yeah, but isn't living in a city a requirement for residency?The point is, there is a way to vote if people are so inclined. Jackson/Sharpton are afraid they won't go through the trouble, so they want to make it super easy so they can bus the evacuees to the polling station. If it's left up to the evacuees to do it on their own, they know the evacuees won't show up at the polls.

The type of people we are dealing with do nothing for themselves. I mean, Jackson has been #####ing for months about how New Orleans is trying to keep these people out. The fact of the matter is that there are plenty of jobs in New Orleans right now. If the evacuees want to come back, all they need to do is secure a place to live and earn enough money for a bus ticket back to New Orleans.

Is it difficult to find a place to live in New Orleans right now? Yes, but it's not impossible. Hundreds are doing it every day. The point is that many of the evacuees think the government should bus them back, find them a place to live, and give them money to sit around and do nothing. That kind of thinking is how many of these people found themselves in the Superdome for 3 days with no food, water, or air conditioner.

That kind of feeding off of the government teet is over in New Orleans for awhile. There aren't enough resources for it.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

You're right....but Jackson/Sharpton was to find ways to force them to vote

Not that I think JJ and Al have pure motives here, but if the displaced folks want to vote in NO's elections, they have every right.

What if the elections were in November? Would they still have a right. What if they were next year?

If they intend to move back, why not?If I had to take a job in New York for a year or two, I'd still want to vote in Columbus elections. Same with military personnel, students, whatever.

B/c they aren't truely residents then. What we are facing is completely different from military, students, etc.I can "intend" to move to New York, but it doesn't mean I can vote in their elections.

A lot of these people rented places that do not exist anymore. They can want to move back as hard as they can, but the tough reality is that there is no place for a majority of them to move back to.

Tough decisions have to be made in this process. And New Orleans shouldn't allow people who can not feasibly move back in the short to medium term to vote on those who will be making those decisions.

I know it sounds harsh, but it's a harsh situation.

Right now, there are jobs to be had in the New Orleans area....but housing is hard to come by. New housing can't be built overnight, and when housing gets renovated, then it is available for premium prices....and those lower income folks who were renting before Katrina don't have the means to get back.

Life isn't fair.

Boy, you really don't want Nagin to win, huh?I don't blame you one bit, but your resoning is off. These are displaced residents of a city...it doesn't matter how long it takes them to move back, they still have absentee voting rights.

 

[Tiger Fan]

You're right....but Jackson/Sharpton was to find ways to force them to vote

Not that I think JJ and Al have pure motives here, but if the displaced folks want to vote in NO's elections, they have every right.

What if the elections were in November? Would they still have a right. What if they were next year?

If they intend to move back, why not?If I had to take a job in New York for a year or two, I'd still want to vote in Columbus elections. Same with military personnel, students, whatever.

B/c they aren't truely residents then. What we are facing is completely different from military, students, etc.I can "intend" to move to New York, but it doesn't mean I can vote in their elections.

A lot of these people rented places that do not exist anymore. They can want to move back as hard as they can, but the tough reality is that there is no place for a majority of them to move back to.

Tough decisions have to be made in this process. And New Orleans shouldn't allow people who can not feasibly move back in the short to medium term to vote on those who will be making those decisions.

I know it sounds harsh, but it's a harsh situation.

Right now, there are jobs to be had in the New Orleans area....but housing is hard to come by. New housing can't be built overnight, and when housing gets renovated, then it is available for premium prices....and those lower income folks who were renting before Katrina don't have the means to get back.

Life isn't fair.

Boy, you really don't want Nagin to win, huh?I don't blame you one bit, but your resoning is off. These are displaced residents of a city...it doesn't matter how long it takes them to move back, they still have absentee voting rights.

Actually, right now I think the major downside of Nagin winning is that it will give the city a horrible national impression. I actually prefer Nagin to Landreau (I've stated this in another thread) but I like Foreman even better.I truely believe that the only reason that Nagin made some of the statements that he did is b/c he knows that playing the race card is the only way to win the election.

I also believe that there needs to be a cap put the absentee voting limit (6months, 12 months, whatever)

 

[RoarinSonoran]

I do think it is unfortunate that the term "disenfranchise" is being thrown around in this instance. Simply put, having to fill out an absentee ballot does not equal disenfranchisement. Though I wholeheartedly believe that every person who was forced to leave the city has the right to vote, it isn't the government's responsibility to ensure that they do so.

That was the rallying cry here in AZ when Prop 200 was passed in 2004, requiring ID to vote. "Oh they'll be disenfranchised!!! The sky will fall, dogs and cats, living together!! How DARE you ask someone to identify themselves with the intent of eliminating voter fraud!!! For shame!!"

Tho the Governor and Attorney General (Democrats, whodathunkit) fought this measure tooth and nail (even after it passed), it was finally implemented in time for local elections last month, and I can't say that I heard one mention of anyone having difficulty with the process.

 

[NCCommish]

Another example of our soceity has evolved.

Politicians blaming each other for the world's wrongs.

And comedians speaking the truth.

And correct me if I am worng, but if you don't live in the city anymore then you shouldn't be voting in their local elections.

The voters in the other cities can already vote absentee. The problem is that Jackson and Sharpton know that large numbers of the evacuees will not vote absentee. They view this as disenfranchisment. I view it as lazy.Also, how long should these people be allowed to vote in a New Orleans election? There has to be a time limit. Is the criteria for Jackson and Sharpton that these people be allowed to vote in New Orleans elections unitl every single one of them is back home? That seems unrealistic.

The bottom line is that Jackson and Sharpton know that the New Orleans election, for the first time since the 1070's could result in a white mayor.

Until they can move back to their homes or the homes are sold?

So how do those that didn't own the homes fit in?

Not sure. But I would say that there are many renters would like to move back but can't because their places are gone to. Shouldn't they have some say in their city? I rent that doesn't mean I don't care what happens in Charlotte. The whole thing is very complex I think not really sure what the solution is but I think encouraging people to vote and doing what you can to make it happen is usually for the best.

I'd like to move back to Coeur d'Alene Idaho someday. Can I vote there?

Were you forced out by a natural disaster? Was the place where you lived destroyed?

 

[Winston Smith]

I do think it is unfortunate that the term "disenfranchise" is being thrown around in this instance. Simply put, having to fill out an absentee ballot does not equal disenfranchisement. Though I wholeheartedly believe that every person who was forced to leave the city has the right to vote, it isn't the government's responsibility to ensure that they do so.

It feels so wrong agreeing with you....

In that case, I take it back

 

[ArcticEdge]

Cosby is so smooth... Sharpton and Jackson need to take notes from him.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Cosby is so smooth... Sharpton and Jackson need to take notes from him.

oh the irony

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I can't believe that I'm saying this, but its about time The Coz ran for office somewhere.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Cosby = class act.

A few years ago after the Patrick Dennehy murder at Baylor in 2003, Cosby gave a free show/pep rally at Baylor to help lift the spirits of the campus and community. He didn't get paid for it, and he didn't even go to school there... he wasn't even asked to do it. He just called up the president of the university and asked if he could do it. Class act all the way.

Here's a link to the story from Baylor's web site. GB Bill for wearing a Baylor Track shirt!

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

wonder how many rapes he committed on that trip.

Cosby gave a free show/pep rally at Baylor to help lift the spirits of the campus and community. He didn't get paid for it, and he didn't even go to school there... he wasn't even asked to do it. He just called up the president of the university and asked if he could do it. Class act all the way.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I can't believe that I'm saying this, but its about time The Coz ran for office somewhere.

Do prisons have elections?

 

[cstu]

Cosby is so smooth... Sharpton and Jackson need to take notes from him.

oh the irony