Bill Cosby needs a new Media Manager (and to stop raping) (1 Viewer)

[SacramentoBob]

He's going to be retried ... a mistrial is not an acquital.

Most here know that, but I wanted that clear for anyone who might be seeing on social media that Bill Cosby beat the charge.

Of course they're going to say right after the verdict that they're going for a retrial.  Doesn't mean they actually will go through with it.

 

[Doug B]

Of course they're going to say right after the verdict that they're going for a retrial.  Doesn't mean they actually will go through with it.

Seems a slam dunk that they will, doesn't it? No one can play the "costs too much" card here, can they?

 

[peaces]

Not sure if true but I heard it was also up to the victim as to if that would have a retrial. If she doesn't want to then no go.

 

[belljr]

The press conference after was comically terrible

 

[Henry Ford]

"I have some drugs, do you like sex when you are unconscious?"

"How would I know?"

 

[Capella]

He's going to be retried ... a mistrial is not an acquital.

Most here know that, but I wanted that clear for anyone who might be seeing on social media that Bill Cosby beat the charge.

Highly doubt there will be another trial. 

 

[Doug B]

Highly doubt there will be another trial. 

Then what game are the prosecutor and judge playing when they talk to the press about it?
 

Prosecutors said immediately they would retry the case, and Judge Steve T. O’Neill said he would try to schedule a new trial within 120 days.

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Shortly after, Montgomery County Dist. Atty. Kevin Steele stood at a podium in the prosecutor’s offices across from the courthouse and said that he was frustrated but had harbored no illusions the case would be easy.

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He vowed to press on with a new trial.

“We will take a hard look at everything involved and then move this forward as soon as possible,” he said. "Andrea Constand is entitled to a verdict in this case.” He also said Cosby’s celebrity would not deter him. “This case is about a drug-facilitated sexual assault. It doesn’t matter what you look like or who you are.”

The new trial is very likely to draw the same judge and may again pull a jury from a county far from this suburban Philadelphia area. Constand, whom Steele praised as “showing such courage,” is expected to again be the key witness in the retrial.

Why say anything about a retrial at all?

 

[apalmer]

Then what game are the prosecutor and judge playing when they talk to the press about it?
 

Why say anything about a retrial at all?

Push for a plea bargain.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Push for a plea bargain.

You think Coz will plea? That seems unlikely.

 

[apalmer]

You think Coz will plea? That seems unlikely.

Maybe not, but he sure won't if the DA doesn't insist that he's going to retry the case. I haven't heard the actual jury count.  If his lawyers talk to the jury and discover it was 11-1 for conviction, it could convince him to take a serious look at it because he might not be so lucky the next time. On the other hand, if they find it was 11-1 for acquittal, maybe the DA offers illegal distribution of narcotics and drops the assaults.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Maybe not, but he sure won't if the DA doesn't insist that he's going to retry the case. I haven't heard the actual jury count.  If his lawyers talk to the jury and discover it was 11-1 for conviction, it could convince him to take a serious look at it because he might not be so lucky the next time. On the other hand, if they find it was 11-1 for acquittal, maybe the DA offers illegal distribution of narcotics and drops the assaults.

I agree that makes sense.

 

[Capella]

Then what game are the prosecutor and judge playing when they talk to the press about it?
 

Why say anything about a retrial at all?

Because they don't have to make any decisions today and don't want to face a white-hot media if they just announced they wouldn't re-try. 

 

[Doug B]

If [the DA's] lawyers talk to the jury and discover it was 11-1 for conviction ...

I am curious as to whether the jury-voting count is something that lawyers for either side might typically find out in advance of the general public. I honestly do not know.

 

[RokNRole]

I am curious as to whether the jury-voting count is something that lawyers for either side might typically find out in advance of the general public. I honestly do not know.

You get one jell-o fan on that jury.....

 

[Sinn Fein]

I am curious as to whether the jury-voting count is something that lawyers for either side might typically find out in advance of the general public. I honestly do not know.

Big case with a chance for re-trial - you want to know what evidence/arguments worked and what did not - it may impact how you approach the re-trial - albeit in front of new jurors.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

The press conference after was comically terrible

I'm not sure what's the most tin-eared thing you can say in that instance, but saying that the accused rapist has "regained his power" is in the top 5. 

 

[Statorama]

I'm not sure what's the most tin-eared thing you can say in that instance, but saying that the accused rapist has "regained his power" is in the top 5. 

My mind instantly cut to an Oprah meme "You get a quallude.....you get a quallude....qualludes for everyone!"

 

[Statorama]

I dont think it's a rare personality at all.  People are inherently greedy.

Especially when you mix in a pinch of 15 minutes of fame

 

[Statorama]

Based on her hair alone, she has bad judgment and her testimony cannot be trusted. JMO

That's an Afro that would make Questlove blush

 

[belljr]

I'm not sure what's the most tin-eared thing you can say in that instance, but saying that the accused rapist has "regained his power" is in the top 5. 

The alleged signed letter from Camille and read was loco

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Cosby now going on speaking tour on how to avoid accusations.

Sneak Preview of his advice

 

[Sinn Fein]

The juror, who spoke with the Inquirer and Daily News at his home on the condition of anonymity, would not say whether he wanted to convict or acquit Cosby. But he said the seven men and five women on the panel were nearly evenly split after 52 hours of deliberations, a deadlock that prompted Montgomery County Judge Steven T. O’Neill to declare a mistrial on Saturday.

This is going to make a re-trial difficult to justify imo.  Now, its high profile so that helps, but this does not look like a case of a lone holdout - where a better jury pool might change the outcome.

ETA 

The juror was the second to offer a window into the deliberation room of the case, and his account appeared to contradict the first. That juror told ABC News on Monday that 10 of the 12 panel members were prepared to find Cosby guilty on two of the three counts against him.

The juror who discussed the case Thursday said that at one point deep into deliberations, there had been a 10-2 vote to convict Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting Constand, but that three panel members later changed their votes and wanted to acquit him.

Votes were split “up the middle: young and old, black and white, men and women,” he said.

That will encourage the prosecution.

 

[SacramentoBob]

The juror, who spoke with the Inquirer and Daily News at his home on the condition of anonymity, would not say whether he wanted to convict or acquit Cosby. But he said the seven men and five women on the panel were nearly evenly split after 52 hours of deliberations, a deadlock that prompted Montgomery County Judge Steven T. O’Neill to declare a mistrial on Saturday.

This is going to make a re-trial difficult to justify imo.  Now, its high profile so that helps, but this does not look like a case of a lone holdout - where a better jury pool might change the outcome.

Another juror reported that it was 10-2 in favor of conviction.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Another juror reported that it was 10-2 in favor of conviction.

Yeah - saw that later in the article - added above.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Another juror reported that it was 10-2 in favor of conviction.

On two counts. 11-1 in favor of acquittal on the third. The jury apparently mostly concluded that Constand was incapable of consenting but not unconscious. 

 

[Sinn Fein]

Guilty Verdict

Norristown, Pennsylvania (CNN)Bill Cosby has been convicted of all three counts of against him in his indecent assault trial.

The jury reached its decision Thursday. The panel began deliberating Wednesday around 11 a.m.

Cosby was convicted on three counts of aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in a Philadelphia suburb in 2004. The 80-year-old former comedian faces up to 10 years in prison on each count, but would likely serve them concurrently.

The jury deliberated for more than 14 hours over two days to reach the verdict.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Guilty Verdict

Good! See ya later 

 

[Osaurus]

Surprising outcome imo, but no excuses for what he did many times over.

 

[eoMMan]

Old man potato head GS killer is probably thrilled his case gets a breather now from media coverage.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

AP just tweeted that he launched into an expletive-ridden tirade at the prosecutor after the verdict was read.  I need to see a transcript of that.  He always worked pretty clean, I think this is the most shocking thing about this entire circus.

 

[Tom Servo]

AP just tweeted that he launched into an expletive-ridden tirade at the prosecutor after the verdict was read.  I need to see a transcript of that.  He always worked pretty clean, I think this is the most shocking thing about this entire circus.

Thing of something you would say, and then imagine Cosby saying it in one of his comedic voices.

 

[Tom Servo]

What is the deal with all the hatred Gloria Allred gets? I don't follow her every move but she seems to be right a lot.

One of the most dangerous places to be is between Gloria Allred and a camera.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

AP just tweeted that he launched into an expletive-ridden tirade at the prosecutor after the verdict was read.  I need to see a transcript of that.  He always worked pretty clean,

Hopefully this doesn’t affect his squeaky clean wholesome image.

 

[Tom Servo]

Hopefully this doesn’t affect his squeaky clean wholesome image.

Link

Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin R. Steele asked that Mr. Cosby’s $1 million bail be revoked, suggesting he had been convicted of a serious crime, owned a plane and could flee, prompting an angry outburst from Mr. Cosby, who shouted, “He doesn’t have a plane, you #######.”

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I remember fondly listening to his album Wonderfulness as a boy. 

My fond memories aside I am glad that he will be held accountable for his crimes.  I hope his victims find some solace and some healing in the verdict and his eventual sentence.  Seems justice was a long time coming in this matter, too long, I am sure, for the many victims who have had to live with this all of these years.

 

[otb_lifer]

Hopefully this doesn’t affect his squeaky clean wholesome image.

well, according to @rockaction, "Cosby Show" reruns are still being aired (i never see them, but RA mentioned it in a thread) .... wtfckity #### ####?

 

[eoMMan]

I was reminiscing about Jello pudding pops today. I used to love this things. They should bring them back. With a different spokesman.  Maybe killmonger/creed actor, Michael B Jordan?

 

[Epic Problem]

I was reminiscing about Jello pudding pops today. I used to love this things. They should bring them back. With a different spokesman.  Maybe killmonger/creed actor, Michael B Jordan?

Hannibal Buress would be a wonderfully cruel twist of fate. 

 

[General Malaise]

I was reminiscing about Jello pudding pops today. I used to love this things. They should bring them back. With a different spokesman.  Maybe killmonger/creed actor, Michael B Jordan?

My link

 

[JuniorGong]

I was reminiscing about Jello pudding pops today. I used to love this things. They should bring them back. With a different spokesman.  Maybe killmonger/creed actor, Michael B Jordan?

pudding pop might take on a whole new meaning for Bill once he is behind bars

 

[Evilgrin 72]

well, according to @rockaction, "Cosby Show" reruns are still being aired (i never see them, but RA mentioned it in a thread) .... wtfckity #### ####?

I saw them on some channel last weekend.  I commented to my wife that it seems somewhat off that everything Louis CK has ever done has been scrubbed from Netflix and HBO, but Cosby Show was running all afternoon on TV Land (or whatever TF channel it was.)

 

[whoknew]

Hannibal Buress would be a wonderfully cruel twist of fate. 

Its amazing. His single joke really got this thing rolling.

 

[rockaction]

well, according to @rockaction, "Cosby Show" reruns are still being aired (i never see them, but RA mentioned it in a thread) .... wtfckity #### ####?

Are they? I said that? 

Hwarf. Never take me too seriously. I think I might have seen one late night or something. The bad ones, though. With Keshia Knight-Pulliam and his bad sweater.  

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Thing of something you would say, and then imagine Cosby saying it in one of his comedic voices.

Doing this now, adding in some mugging and silly faces.  It works.

 

[otb_lifer]

I saw them on some channel last weekend.  I commented to my wife that it seems somewhat off that everything Louis CK has ever done has been scrubbed from Netflix and HBO, but Cosby Show was running all afternoon on TV Land (or whatever TF channel it was.)

wasn't Spacey person expunged as well?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

wasn't Spacey person expunged as well?

I believe so.

 

[Koya]

I believe so.

Gonna need a media platform dedicated to the rapists and harassers who are no longer available on the main channels

 

[otb_lifer]

Are they? I said that? 

Hwarf. Never take me too seriously. I think I might have seen one late night or something. The bad ones, though. With Keshia Knight-Pulliam and his bad sweater.  

i thought you made an excellent point in questioning their continued run apologies for dragging you into the muck

 

[rockaction]

i thought you made an excellent point in questioning their continued run apologies for dragging you into the muck

Yeah, I might very well have. I just don't remember, just like one-quarter of the stuff I post here. I just saw an old Kanye/best album thread get bumped and was like, "I started that?" Too much incendiary booze in my life, my man.  

 

[Godsbrother]

I was reminiscing about Jello pudding pops today. I used to love this things. They should bring them back. With a different spokesman.  Maybe killmonger/creed actor, Michael B Jordan?

This guy is available