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bill parcells wants back as a coach? (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
God, I hope it's Dalls.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Just about wherever he wants. Most owners would welcome him with open arms.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Parcells only likes to go to rubbish teams so that he can turn them around. I see Carolina in his future.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
The Vikings ARE a rubbish team now
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Wont be Buffalo. Parcell's has a giant ego, it will have to be a big market team and more than likely somewhere in the north east.
Absolutely no way it will be Dallas. Everything I read said that Jerry was miserable with Parcells there because he couldnt boss him around.
No way it will be Cleveland. Parcells will want too much power for Holmgreen.
I honestly cant think of a place where he could go...
Maybe since he like Florida so much he would overlook the small town aspect of Jacksonville??
Absolutely no way it will be Dallas. Everything I read said that Jerry was miserable with Parcells there because he couldnt boss him around.
No way it will be Cleveland. Parcells will want too much power for Holmgreen.
I honestly cant think of a place where he could go...
Maybe since he like Florida so much he would overlook the small town aspect of Jacksonville??
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
As a Bengals fan I hope he comes here.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
How about San Diego?
I heard it was Al Groh not BP.
BP believes Groh got a raw deal and should be an NFL head coach or at least have been one for a few years. I'm hazy on Groh info. Longtime BP assistant of course, then figurehead for the NYJ for a year, then a decent coach at UVA where he sent plenty of players to the NFL including some to BPs and BBs teams.
I remember some mag ripped Groh then he went on a winning streak. Seen UVA listed in bowl games and he coached an all star game or two.
Being DC for G. Tech just doesn't seem like where he belongs.
If it's Groh or BP and then Groh or some combination, I'd figure it's cleveland as both know Holmgren and Holmgren's buddy Ron Wolf is a dear friend of BP and Groh. Groh was also an assistant head coach in CLE IIRC- maybe it was Baltimore.
Anyhow, Groh has some assistants littered around which also helps Parcells tree (and we all know his ego eats that up) My buddy said Groh has a kid that's a real good young coach. Add that and BP's ego is stroked plenty.
If this were to happen. There's ALOT of BB and BP assistants around the NFL that Groh could enlist. We'd have to research contracts of positional coaches, DCs and OCs.
BTW BP and not BB gave Mangini his first NFL coaching gig.
BP believes Groh got a raw deal and should be an NFL head coach or at least have been one for a few years. I'm hazy on Groh info. Longtime BP assistant of course, then figurehead for the NYJ for a year, then a decent coach at UVA where he sent plenty of players to the NFL including some to BPs and BBs teams.
I remember some mag ripped Groh then he went on a winning streak. Seen UVA listed in bowl games and he coached an all star game or two.
Being DC for G. Tech just doesn't seem like where he belongs.
If it's Groh or BP and then Groh or some combination, I'd figure it's cleveland as both know Holmgren and Holmgren's buddy Ron Wolf is a dear friend of BP and Groh. Groh was also an assistant head coach in CLE IIRC- maybe it was Baltimore.
Anyhow, Groh has some assistants littered around which also helps Parcells tree (and we all know his ego eats that up) My buddy said Groh has a kid that's a real good young coach. Add that and BP's ego is stroked plenty.
If this were to happen. There's ALOT of BB and BP assistants around the NFL that Groh could enlist. We'd have to research contracts of positional coaches, DCs and OCs.
BTW BP and not BB gave Mangini his first NFL coaching gig.
Northbound Train
Footballguy
DETROIT
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Shawnky
Footballguy
Pretty sure he's had his fill of JJ.
geoff8695
Footballguy
I'll only believe it when I see it.
That said, I think SD, SF, Oakland, Detroit, Minny, Cincinnati, Jacksonville would all hold great potential for him to make a dramatic impact and improvement right away. And I think SD would be the best spot possible, but Cincinnati, Detroit, and SF would be particularly interesting as well.
That said, I think SD, SF, Oakland, Detroit, Minny, Cincinnati, Jacksonville would all hold great potential for him to make a dramatic impact and improvement right away. And I think SD would be the best spot possible, but Cincinnati, Detroit, and SF would be particularly interesting as well.
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netnalp
Footballguy
Really? I like what Schwartz has done, I see them as a playoff team either next season or the one after that.DETROIT
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
That's about the last place he'd go at this point. I don't think Jerruh wants him back either.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
That would be good, but not sure how he'll feel about being with what is considered a small market team. This team has the bones to be a smash-mouth powerhouse with defensive potential...seems like a natural fit for him.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
What an idiot. Your team goes from three straight years of 5-11 to the playoffs with Quincy mother####ing Carter as your starting QB and you're whining about not being able to boss the coach around?
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Good call. They desperately need a real coach out there.
Northbound Train
Footballguy
You haven't watched enough of their games...Most undisciplined team in the league ~ checkCan't finish games ~ checkHe's had some horrendous misusage of the clock in recent games that undoubtedly affected the outgames of games ~ checkCertainly he's the best Coach we've had this decade but this is a show me now league and he won't be around long if he can't his players to play smart, penalty free ball...and you'd think under the tutelage of Jeff Fisher for all those years he'd be able to manage the clock much better.Don't get me wrong, I too like the positive strides we've made but penalties and the play clock are direct results of your Head Coach...and it's U-G-L-YReally? I like what Schwartz has done, I see them as a playoff team either next season or the one after that.DETROIT
That's why BP left Dallas so soon IMHO he got sick of JJ interfering with him trying to build a team (and look at where they are now)
Northbound Train
Footballguy
Ummmm...something tells me he'd have a problem with the G.M there....just sayin
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
I've started to look at the available coaches out there (Gruden and Cowher included) and when speculation comes along, I start to think in personal aspects. For example, Cowher lives in Raleigh, recently lost his wife and has kids that I believe on the East Coast (I also believe his wife's twin sister lives in southern NC or northern SC (i.e. close to Charlotte). I understand the cowher talk to other cities, but think this has to be taken into account.I also like Carolina for Parcells for many of the reasons mentioned above, but I (again) believe he still splits time between FL and the NY area. Charlotte is a quick jaunt to either and these types of coaches get more say in the "work/life balance" than say a McDaniels or Haley (someone who is green). Just a theory, but I think it is food for thought.
Football Critic
Footballguy
Its exactly what Detroit needs. If Stafford can stay healthy, with the weapons of Best, CJ, and Petti....a good Dline, can be helped with a solid draft for an oline and LB/Sec. Wow, team that with Parcells? Bringing Parcells in will generate FA buzz.DETROIT
Man, that would be enough to make Detroit a real contender.They will give Parcells the power, he will assemble a great staff in a major sports town. His ego wants to turn Detroit around.I would say this is the favorite by a lonnnng shot.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Another vote for Detroit. Parcells likes teams with some talent that are under-performing. Detroit has very good talent on offense and can be coached into playing smarter defense. If they win most of their close games I think they're a wild-card team immediately.
If Parcells can get the Lions to win their division and a playoff game, they'll erect a statue of him in Michigan.
If Parcells can get the Lions to win their division and a playoff game, they'll erect a statue of him in Michigan.
Fensalk
Footballguy
49ers. When cities have multiple sports teams, they compete with each other for the the front page headlines and for the local sports dollar. The SF Giants just won the world series, which pushes the 49ers to the back page, and local fans will begin to focus on Giants baseball with their money and forget the 49ers. The 49ers need to make a big slash to get back on the front page, and back into the minds and hearts of the local fan base.
So the 49ers hire Bill Parcells.
So the 49ers hire Bill Parcells.
He may not have won a Super Bowl, but he's quickly brought some teams out of long stretches of mediocrity.
That's what I hear.
Richard_the_Vampire
Footballguy
The 49ers seem like a prime choice if they falter down the stretch and miss the playoffs.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
If I'm a GM/owner, give me Cowher before Parcells.
I do not get the "most undisciplined" line. Feel like coming back with you haven't watch the Cowboys much but it's more than that, I simply don't see that.As for other two, that's what winning teams do. They got him his DL and improvement has been dramatic. On the OL. they've filled in some blanks with meh players. I mean if you compare their DL and OL it's laughable. I do figure it's coming though prob in 2011 they address it.It's pretty hard to manage a clock and "finish games" without an OL you can count on. Also, some of what you're saying involves learning how to win and that too is part of the turnaround. It's not a nice thought but the Lions have been losers and thus have bad habits. Give him time to teach them and break them.Their offensive skill positions are impressive but only to a degree. 2nd WR doesn't scare anyone. QBs drop like flies there and they lost a game with a lead in the fourth and having their third string QB in there. They need more. One injury and they're the same ol' Lions. Imagine their WR corps if Calvin gets hurt. How many Best fans whined about Smith, so imagine if Best gets hurt- then they've got the guy they were complaining about. They have a tremendous need for depth.Schwartz should have earned some patience from Lions fans IMO.And re this thread, Schwartz isn't going anywhereNorthbound Train said:You haven't watched enough of their games...Most undisciplined team in the league ~ checkCan't finish games ~ checkHe's had some horrendous misusage of the clock in recent games that undoubtedly affected the outgames of games ~ checkCertainly he's the best Coach we've had this decade but this is a show me now league and he won't be around long if he can't his players to play smart, penalty free ball...and you'd think under the tutelage of Jeff Fisher for all those years he'd be able to manage the clock much better.Don't get me wrong, I too like the positive strides we've made but penalties and the play clock are direct results of your Head Coach...and it's U-G-L-Ynetnalp said:Really? I like what Schwartz has done, I see them as a playoff team either next season or the one after that.Northbound Train said:DETROIT
Are the Dolphins now competitive or are they a team with glaring holes?What did he accomplish with the Cowboys? Before you answer don't most teams that go through a down cycle bounce back in a very few years due to draft position prominence. (It would be a foul to use Detroit to argue against the greater premise. they are the exception to the rule.New England, well there was a team with a lot of parts when he got there that he had in the playoffs. but they had an inconsistent, up and down record and could be argued to have underperformed.The Jets, i guess maybe he improved them, but weren't they like only two or three games over .500 during his reign?No, to me he is the Giants where he did fantastically and then a guy that rides his rep and favorable treatment from the east coast media because he is a good quote. As I said when I started I understand the opinion is not popular nor do I in any way advocate that you, or any other need consider my opinion or join in it..
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I agree, it'd be interesting to see if Mike Brown could break him too.bleachercreacher said:
The worst part of this is knowing for dead certain that Mikey would never even conisder him. Frankly, I'd just as soon have Mikey turn over the keys to Marvin or at long last hire a real GM.A Bengals fan in NY? Cool 
-QG
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Yea, not happenin. Mikey knows way too much about the game and about how to run a successful franchise to ever hand over the keys to someone else.I agree, it'd be interesting to see if Mike Brown could break him too.bleachercreacher said:
The worst part of this is knowing for dead certain that Mikey would never even conisder him. Frankly, I'd just as soon have Mikey turn over the keys to Marvin or at long last hire a real GM.A Bengals fan in NY? Cool
netnalp
Footballguy
Those are fixable things. With how bad Detroit was talent wise, being close to winning games this season is a big turn around. Next season I expect them to start winning some of those close games to have about an 8-8 record, the season after that 10 wins as they continue to improve. The Lions were so far in the hole, no coach was going to turn them around in a couple of years. All they had was a WR when Schwartz came in. Lions are trending upwards as a team and that hasn't happened since Fonts, whose teams suffered due to his inability to develop a QB.Northbound Train said:You haven't watched enough of their games...Most undisciplined team in the league ~ checkCan't finish games ~ checkHe's had some horrendous misusage of the clock in recent games that undoubtedly affected the outgames of games ~ checkCertainly he's the best Coach we've had this decade but this is a show me now league and he won't be around long if he can't his players to play smart, penalty free ball...and you'd think under the tutelage of Jeff Fisher for all those years he'd be able to manage the clock much better.Don't get me wrong, I too like the positive strides we've made but penalties and the play clock are direct results of your Head Coach...and it's U-G-L-Ynetnalp said:Really? I like what Schwartz has done, I see them as a playoff team either next season or the one after that.Northbound Train said:DETROIT
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
Welcome to the wonderful world of Jerry Jones. He would rather drown in mediocrity than have to give someone else the credit for success.KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
tim_whatley
Footballguy
Houston.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Parcells to the Vikings? Take a deep breath
Minneapolis Star & Tribune
The Vikings' struggles have left many speculating about the job security of coach Brad Childress and in some cases the franchise's entire structure when it comes to the football operations. Last Sunday, I wrote what this team really needs is a general manager who oversees everything.
As some have pointed out, those types aren't easy to find. However, there could be a logical candidate sitting on the open market. A reporter from the Palm Beach Post saw an advance copy of the NFL Network film about Bill Parcells that will debut tonight. In it Parcells makes it clear that at the age of 69 he isn't ready to ride off into the sunset.
"Get me back out there," Parcells says. "I can do this one more time. That's how I feel."
Well, isn't that interesting. Parcells most recently worked as a consultant for the Miami Dolphins and last coached in 2006 with the Dallas Cowboys. He is best remembered, however, for winning two Super Bowls as coach of the New York Giants.
That is the same organization that Zygi Wilf has a huge fan of before he bought the Vikings in 2005. Already many have connected the dots that Wilf might be interested in bringing Parcells to Minnesota.
But let's all slow down for one moment.
Despite repeated requests in recent weeks to interview Wilf, he has declined. That's certainly his right but it means that any opinions about which direction he might take this organization is pure speculation.
There also has been no indication that Wilf and the rest of ownership are planning to clean house. Hiring a larger than life figure such as Parcells would lead one to assume that he would be given the authority to pick and choose who he kept.
Keep in mind, too, that Zygi and Mark Wilf, who serves as the Vikings president, have had nothing but praise for the job done by vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman and vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski.
It's logical to think that if the Vikings decided to hire a general manager that Spielman would be a serious candidate, with the expectation he would work closely with Brzezinski. Spielman has an impressive title but he does not currently have the type of authority that a general manager does. Childress, for instance, has final say on the 53-man roster and is probably as close to a general manager as the Vikings have under the way things are set up.
None of this is to say the Vikings wouldn't put out feelers toward the Parcells camp to see if he would be interested. It's just to urge caution before anyone gets too excited about the prospect of this actually happening.
Minneapolis Star & Tribune
The Vikings' struggles have left many speculating about the job security of coach Brad Childress and in some cases the franchise's entire structure when it comes to the football operations. Last Sunday, I wrote what this team really needs is a general manager who oversees everything.
As some have pointed out, those types aren't easy to find. However, there could be a logical candidate sitting on the open market. A reporter from the Palm Beach Post saw an advance copy of the NFL Network film about Bill Parcells that will debut tonight. In it Parcells makes it clear that at the age of 69 he isn't ready to ride off into the sunset.
"Get me back out there," Parcells says. "I can do this one more time. That's how I feel."
Well, isn't that interesting. Parcells most recently worked as a consultant for the Miami Dolphins and last coached in 2006 with the Dallas Cowboys. He is best remembered, however, for winning two Super Bowls as coach of the New York Giants.
That is the same organization that Zygi Wilf has a huge fan of before he bought the Vikings in 2005. Already many have connected the dots that Wilf might be interested in bringing Parcells to Minnesota.
But let's all slow down for one moment.
Despite repeated requests in recent weeks to interview Wilf, he has declined. That's certainly his right but it means that any opinions about which direction he might take this organization is pure speculation.
There also has been no indication that Wilf and the rest of ownership are planning to clean house. Hiring a larger than life figure such as Parcells would lead one to assume that he would be given the authority to pick and choose who he kept.
Keep in mind, too, that Zygi and Mark Wilf, who serves as the Vikings president, have had nothing but praise for the job done by vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman and vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski.
It's logical to think that if the Vikings decided to hire a general manager that Spielman would be a serious candidate, with the expectation he would work closely with Brzezinski. Spielman has an impressive title but he does not currently have the type of authority that a general manager does. Childress, for instance, has final say on the 53-man roster and is probably as close to a general manager as the Vikings have under the way things are set up.
None of this is to say the Vikings wouldn't put out feelers toward the Parcells camp to see if he would be interested. It's just to urge caution before anyone gets too excited about the prospect of this actually happening.
Shawnky
Footballguy
You must not have been following the NFL very long. What he did with the Jets was absolutely amazing. Took them from the worst team in the NFL to thr AFC championship. He didn't do so bad in NE either. As I recall he took them to the Superbowl. He ended Dallas's playoff drought. Not sure what else you'd need to see.Sudsy said:
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Northbound Train
Footballguy
Sudsy said:
Wiki is your friend PATS
Parcells returned to the NFL in 1993 as the head coach for the New England Patriots. Within two years, he coached the team to a 10–6 record and its first playoff game in eight years. In 1996, he guided the Patriots to Super Bowl XXXI but lost to the Green Bay Packers, 35–21, in New Orleans.
JETS
Parcells again instrumented a remarkable turnaround in his first year with the Jets. In his first season with the Jets, the team barely missed the playoffs with a record of 9–7. In 1998, the Jets went to the playoffs with a 12–4 record, which was good enough for second place in the conference [22][23] and earned the Jets their third home playoff game since moving to New Jersey in 1984 (their first home playoff game was against the New England Patriots following the 1985 season), but lost to the eventual Super Bowl-champion Denver Broncos in the AFC Championship Game.
COWBOYS
Following three straight 5–11 seasons, Dallas Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones lured Bill Parcells out of retirement and made him the head coach in 2003.
In his first season with the Cowboys, he led them to the playoffs with a 10–6 record (losing to the eventual NFC Champion Carolina Panthers in the opening round), thus making him the first head coach in NFL history to guide four different teams to the playoffs.
DOLPHINS
In the first season as Executive Vice President of Football Operations, Parcells fired head coach Cam Cameron, GM Randy Mueller, along with a few assistant coaches, after a 1–15 finish in the 2007 season. With vacancies at the GM and head coaching spots, he brought in Jeff Ireland to be the general manager and signed Tony Sparano as head coach.
The Dolphins finished the 2008 season 11–5 and became AFC East champions when Pennington and the Dolphins defeated Favre and the Jets in the final game of the season.[33] They finished with a 10 game improvement, tying the 1999 Indianapolis Colts for the best improvement ever. It was also the first time since 2001 the Dolphins made the playoffs.
These facts don't lie....the guy is pure genious
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Northbound Train
Footballguy
This is a show me now league....OK, us Lions fans have been far too patient over the years. It's time to #### or get off the pot. Detroit can't afford another few years with a HC that isn't getting it done. This organization needs to have a HC that holds players acountable. I understand that depth is a problem but f%^& it's time to hold the Steven Peterman's of this team accountable and either fix him or bench his ###....he's on pace for 20 penalties and has killed numerous drives. PArcells would not stand for that period!!!You can't argue about the undisciplined fact either...sure there may be a team or two just as bad in this dept but I only care about DEtroit and I find it hard to believe there is a team that false starts or jumps offside more than Detroit does...and at such inopportune times.Don't Da Bears have arguably the worst, or one of the worst OLines in ball and ZERO running game....well, they sit at 7-3. Sure, that record is not indicative of the craptastic team they are but they ARE 7-3....we could be 6-4, 7-3 if not for some poor execution and horrific late game calls, not to mention the ridiculous timeout abuse that the HC has admitted were on him.I like what he has done in his short time here but if I don't see drastic improvements re: penalties, closing games out and managing a clock in the final 7 weeks then I"ll be leading the charge to bring in somebody/anybody that can get this job done!!!! Those are the prime responsibilities of a HC.I do not get the "most undisciplined" line. Feel like coming back with you haven't watch the Cowboys much but it's more than that, I simply don't see that.As for other two, that's what winning teams do. They got him his DL and improvement has been dramatic. On the OL. they've filled in some blanks with meh players. I mean if you compare their DL and OL it's laughable. I do figure it's coming though prob in 2011 they address it.It's pretty hard to manage a clock and "finish games" without an OL you can count on. Also, some of what you're saying involves learning how to win and that too is part of the turnaround. It's not a nice thought but the Lions have been losers and thus have bad habits. Give him time to teach them and break them.Their offensive skill positions are impressive but only to a degree. 2nd WR doesn't scare anyone. QBs drop like flies there and they lost a game with a lead in the fourth and having their third string QB in there. They need more. One injury and they're the same ol' Lions. Imagine their WR corps if Calvin gets hurt. How many Best fans whined about Smith, so imagine if Best gets hurt- then they've got the guy they were complaining about. They have a tremendous need for depth.Schwartz should have earned some patience from Lions fans IMO.And re this thread, Schwartz isn't going anywhereNorthbound Train said:You haven't watched enough of their games...Most undisciplined team in the league ~ checkCan't finish games ~ checkHe's had some horrendous misusage of the clock in recent games that undoubtedly affected the outgames of games ~ checkCertainly he's the best Coach we've had this decade but this is a show me now league and he won't be around long if he can't his players to play smart, penalty free ball...and you'd think under the tutelage of Jeff Fisher for all those years he'd be able to manage the clock much better.Don't get me wrong, I too like the positive strides we've made but penalties and the play clock are direct results of your Head Coach...and it's U-G-L-Ynetnalp said:Really? I like what Schwartz has done, I see them as a playoff team either next season or the one after that.Northbound Train said:DETROIT
