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Bin Laden sniper gets DUI (1 Viewer)

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Robert James O’Neill, the former member of SEAL Team 6 who claimed to have shot and killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid, was charged with DUI on Friday in his home town of Butte, Mont.

According to George Skuletich, the undersheriff of Butte-Silver Bow City and County, local officers responded to the parking lot of a local convenience store after multiple complaints of a man sleeping in the front seat of his car with the engine running.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/04/08/navy-seal-who-claimed-to-shoot-osama-bin-laden-charged-with-dui/

 
On a serious note, the fact that this is a crime is bull####.  The guy got arrested for Not Driving under the influence.  Aside from the fact that this is harmless and therefore should be legal, this sort of law actually encourages people to put the car in D and try to maneuver their way home, which is the opposite of good policy.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
On a serious note, the fact that this is a crime is bull####.  The guy got arrested for Not Driving under the influence.  Aside from the fact that this is harmless and therefore should be legal, this sort of law actually encourages people to put the car in D and try to maneuver their way home, which is the opposite of good policy.
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I would probably agree with you, except for this:

with the engine running.
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PlasmaDogPlasma said:
I would probably agree with you, except for this:
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Maybe it was cold.  The important thing is that the guy had is car in P and was sleeping it off.  We should encourage that, not criminalize it.

(Also, my understanding is that in most states this would also be a DUI even if the engine was off.  Which is insane).

 
I find it a pretty sad story. This guy is probably mentally ####ed up for life after his time in the meatgrinder. Being famous for killing people can be made to seem great in some fictional movies and books, but I imagine it's a horrible psychological burden to bear for real life, ordinary humans.

 
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Gr00vus said:
I find it a pretty sad story. This guy is probably mentally ####ed up for life after his time in the meatgrinder. Being famous for killing people can be made to seem great in some fictional movies and books, but I imagine it's a horrible psychological burden to bear for real life, ordinary humans.
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If he was a sniper who took out dozens, I would wholeheartedly agree with you, but if he just pegged Bin Laden,  I can't imagine a moment of hesitation before sawing wood.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Maybe it was cold.  The important thing is that the guy had is car in P and was sleeping it off.  We should encourage that, not criminalize it.

(Also, my understanding is that in most states this would also be a DUI even if the engine was off.  Which is insane).
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Sleeping it off with the car running? More like he dozed off before he had a chance to kill anyone.

 
Gr00vus said:
I find it a pretty sad story. This guy is probably mentally ####ed up for life after his time in the meatgrinder. Being famous for killing people can be made to seem great in some fictional movies and books, but I imagine it's a horrible psychological burden to bear for real life, ordinary humans.
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While that's probably true for many of the killings our soldiers do, nobody is losing sleep over the fact that they killed Osama Bin Laden 

 
Gr00vus said:
I find it a pretty sad story. This guy is probably mentally ####ed up for life after his time in the meatgrinder. Being famous for killing people can be made to seem great in some fictional movies and books, but I imagine it's a horrible psychological burden to bear for real life, ordinary humans.
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He was only "famous" for killing Bin Laden because he put himself out there. The rest of his unit didn't appreciate it one bit. Nor did anyone in special forces. So of all things to maybe feel bad about, this isn't one of them.

 
The Big Guy said:
If he was a sniper who took out dozens, I would wholeheartedly agree with you, but if he just pegged Bin Laden,  I can't imagine a moment of hesitation before sawing wood.
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Do you know that the only guy he ever killed was Bin Laden?  You in the Seals? 

 
DallasDMac said:
He was only "famous" for killing Bin Laden because he put himself out there. The rest of his unit didn't appreciate it one bit. Nor did anyone in special forces. So of all things to maybe feel bad about, this isn't one of them.
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Another guy who was a Seal.  Never realized we had so many badass insiders around here

 
IvanKaramazov said:
On a serious note, the fact that this is a crime is bull####.  The guy got arrested for Not Driving under the influence.  Aside from the fact that this is harmless and therefore should be legal, this sort of law actually encourages people to put the car in D and try to maneuver their way home, which is the opposite of good policy.
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So it's your contention he got drunk at the convenience store and didn't drive drunk to get there? Do they let you do that in Montana? Because I know drinking in our local 7-11s is frowned upon.

 
BTW this really shouldn't be national news. In 2015 in Montana there were slightly more than 100 people a day arrested for DUI. I didn't read about any of them.

 
flapgreen said:
Another guy who was a Seal.  Never realized we had so many badass insiders around here
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I worked with the 1st SOW, that's Special Operations Wing, and Delta. Those guys really don't like publicity. I mean really don't like it. So I would guess his unit was none to pleased.

 
BTW I got a DUI in 93. So I'm not judging anyone. He was wrong like I was. He could've killed someone like I could've. I regret that incident and often think of how grateful I am I didn't hurt anyone with my stupidity that night. I took my punishment and I have never again had a drink and drove. In fact I barely drink at all these days and went from being the guy who needed a driver to being the driver for everyone. I am proud of that. I hope he is able to do the same.

 
Unreal the level of hate some people have for soldiers.   And you wonder why people think they hate America.  Un-fricken believe able.  

 
jon_mx said:
Unreal the level of hate some people have for soldiers.   And you wonder why people think they hate America.  Un-fricken believe able.  
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Do you think he was teleported to the store? Unreal the lengths some will go to excuse some people. I was military. I did stuff that is still redacted. I expect no one to say it was cool I drove drunk. Because it wasn't. Wearing a uniform doesn't get you a free pass.

 
Everyone should know DUI rules, guy screwed up, just like every one of you in this thread has. 

 
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jon_mx said:
What part of not driving confuses people?   
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You know what, I think you're right.  Some libtard commie Bernie Bro probably got him drunk and then put him in a car at a convenience store and knocked him unconscious.  Those sneaky bastards will do anything to make America look bad.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Based on what we know, I think there is at least a 99% chance he drove drunk. Anyone disagree?
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Yes completely disagree.  In the parking lot with the engine running means absolutely zero.  He really could have been a little cold, turned the heat on and never moved the car.

At this point, based on the evidence, I would say less than 10% chance he drove anywhere.

 
Jefferson the Caregiver said:
Juxtatarot said:
Based on what we know, I think there is at least a 99% chance he drove drunk. Anyone disagree?
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Yes completely disagree.  In the parking lot with the engine running means absolutely zero.  He really could have been a little cold, turned the heat on and never moved the car.

At this point, based on the evidence, I would say less than 10% chance he drove anywhere.
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How do you think he got there? You think he drove there sober, then drank enough in the parking lot to get so hammered that he passed out?

 
[scooter] said:
How do you think he got there? You think he drove there sober, then drank enough in the parking lot to get so hammered that he passed out?
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I really have no idea and neither do you.  My first thought is that he parked his car in this lot, went off and got wasted and then went back to his car and turned the heat on and passed out.

 
Jefferson the Caregiver said:
[scooter] said:
How do you think he got there? You think he drove there sober, then drank enough in the parking lot to get so hammered that he passed out?
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I really have no idea and neither do you.  My first thought is that he parked his car in this lot, went off and got wasted and then went back to his car and turned the heat on and passed out.
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Oh. So then you're calling the guy a liar? Because he says he didn't drink anything and he only took a "prescribed sleep aid".

 
jon wants two sets of rules in this country. One set for people who agree with him, and the other for everyone else.

 
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I saw him speak at a business function last year. He was very good, polished, very impressive guy. He didn't mention that he was the guy who shot bin Laden in his speech. There has of course been some backlash after he made that claim, and I believe at least one thread on this board discussing it. There are also some folks who deny that Oneill got the kill shot. 

 
[scooter] said:
jon wants two sets of rules in this country. One set for people who agree with him, and the other for everyone else.
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My position has zero to do with who he is.  I want rules which fairly reflect the crime.  Some person who is caught on the road driving is at a much different level then some guy passed out in a parked car.  It has zero to do with who he is unlike those who accuse him of being mentally ill, or trying to kill someone, and being a person who is not newsworthy.  

 
flapgreen said:
Another guy who was a Seal is capable of reading.  Never realized we had so many badass insiders around here
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It's been WIDELY publicized how SEALS and fellow Special Forces troops felt about his going public with this. It was highly frowned upon by them. All of them. As recent as this week, there were several articles on how these guys are still unhappy about all the recent prior SF soldiers going public with stories about this mission or that. Perhaps you should get off a message board and actually read a news publication on occasion.

 
Otis said:
While that's probably true for many of the killings our soldiers do, nobody is losing sleep over the fact that they killed Osama Bin Laden 
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probably tough to know unless you have killed somebody.  i would like to think this too but who knows.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I saw him speak at a business function last year. He was very good, polished, very impressive guy. He didn't mention that he was the guy who shot bin Laden in his speech. There has of course been some backlash after he made that claim, and I believe at least one thread on this board discussing it. There are also some folks who deny that Oneill got the kill shot. 
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Matters why?

 
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