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Bitcoin-Explain to me how to buy these things (1 Viewer)

XRP doesn't get much mention here.  Anyone keeping up with it and the lawsuit?  I've been up and down on it, but I feel like I need to get a lot more after watching this video.  

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its 30 minutes, but a really good watch on the subject.  

 
XRP doesn't get much mention here.  Anyone keeping up with it and the lawsuit?  I've been up and down on it, but I feel like I need to get a lot more after watching this video.  

Blockchain backer

its 30 minutes, but a really good watch on the subject.  
I'll watch, but I've been of the opinion the win is already built into the price. The cultish following predicting a price explosion reminds me of ADA's situation before the release of smart contracts. Price-wise, the win may be a non-event. Ok, I watch.

 
XRP doesn't get much mention here. 
In stocks my #1 rule is never invest in a company that misses SEC reporting deadlines.  In this case the SEC is using the whole weight of the US govt. to crush these guys.  Way too binary for me and probably why it isn't a big topic here.

 
XRP doesn't get much mention here.  Anyone keeping up with it and the lawsuit?  I've been up and down on it, but I feel like I need to get a lot more after watching this video.  

Blockchain backer

its 30 minutes, but a really good watch on the subject.  
I have a good chunk.  I think it will go up when this is settled and the exchanges allow it to be traded again.  We shall see.

I don't talk about it much because it's kinda boring right now lol

 
https://liquidloans.io/

I keep seeing this in my neck of the woods.  I dont know the play on it.

Anyone researching?
Really don't need to.  Once you see "algorithmic stablecoin" that should be enough.  If nothing else, the IRON stablecoin serves as a warning what can happen with those.

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Wrapped up the last bit of my deployment with my AVAX stash.  Deposited AVAX at TraderJoe (9.5%), borrowed 60% of that in DAI (-7%), swapped that for USDT.e, and deposited that at Alpha Homora at 37%.  So, in total, ~40% interest to hold my AVAX, which I definitely want to keep exposure to.  

 
You guys actually use brave browser?  I love it.  Been using it for years 


I do.  I haven't been using the wallet yet though.  I tried it but was unintuitive where to add a new network, and then when adding a new network it had like 5x as many fields for you to fill in as metamask and it was hard to find info on what actually goes into each field.  So at risk of screwing something up I decided to stick to metamask for now until Brave streamlines it a bit more.

 
How is cryptocurrency income/gains handled for taxes, btw?


It's a nightmare.

I only started getting really heavy into it like a month ago and I've been trying to track it with a spreadsheet but it's borderline impossible.  Some of these purchases/stakes have like 10 transactions involved, each one with different fees and changes to the values of the underlying in the few minutes between each swap.  And most of these wallets don't make it super easy to see exactly what your buy/sell price was like exchanges do (heck even some of these exchanges make it difficult).

I've just been notating the cash amount I start with, and then the cash value of the asset I eventually end up with at the end of it all after all the swaps/gas, and hoping that's good enough.

There are tax apps like coinpanda and coinstats, has anyone used those?  Do they actually track all of the different fees and trades from all these random wallets and dex apps?  Or do they just work with the exchanges?

 
if the taxable event occurs before holding 1 year, it's ordinary income.  If greater than a year, long term capital gains.  Swapping crypto A for crypto B is a taxable event for A, but not B.


So is it self reporting/calculating or do the cryptos and apps (Coinbase for example) send a yearly tax report (like vanguard for example)?

 
So is it self reporting/calculating or do the cryptos and apps (Coinbase for example) send a yearly tax report (like vanguard for example)?
Centralized brokers who are attempting to be forward-looking in their compliance should have some report.  I'd think Coinbase does.  However, others like Kucoin do not.  I'll need some robust tool to track all of my stuff and will report back what I end up using. 

 
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It's a nightmare.

I only started getting really heavy into it like a month ago and I've been trying to track it with a spreadsheet but it's borderline impossible.  Some of these purchases/stakes have like 10 transactions involved, each one with different fees and changes to the values of the underlying in the few minutes between each swap.  And most of these wallets don't make it super easy to see exactly what your buy/sell price was like exchanges do (heck even some of these exchanges make it difficult).

I've just been notating the cash amount I start with, and then the cash value of the asset I eventually end up with at the end of it all after all the swaps/gas, and hoping that's good enough.

There are tax apps like coinpanda and coinstats, has anyone used those?  Do they actually track all of the different fees and trades from all these random wallets and dex apps?  Or do they just work with the exchanges?


That sounds awful.  I'm sure IRS will be watching it even more if they get that agent plus up they want/need.

 
I only started getting really heavy into it like a month ago and I've been trying to track it with a spreadsheet but it's borderline impossible.  Some of these purchases/stakes have like 10 transactions involved, each one with different fees and changes to the values of the underlying in the few minutes between each swap.  And most of these wallets don't make it super easy to see exactly what your buy/sell price was like exchanges do (heck even some of these exchanges make it difficult).
Here's a question.  I've got staking rewards that I've claimed but are not vested.  I have to wait a year from the claim date before they're unlocked.  Does claiming them count as a taxable event since they remain locked?  I read an IRS blip that mentioned "having control of" as a metric for determining a taxable event.

 
Here's a question.  I've got staking rewards that I've claimed but are not vested.  I have to wait a year from the claim date before they're unlocked.  Does claiming them count as a taxable event since they remain locked?  I read an IRS blip that mentioned "having control of" as a metric for determining a taxable event.


Honestly I have no idea.  I would think you pay taxes when you claim it even if it's locked, but that is purely a guess.

 
Here's a question.  I've got staking rewards that I've claimed but are not vested.  I have to wait a year from the claim date before they're unlocked.  Does claiming them count as a taxable event since they remain locked?  I read an IRS blip that mentioned "having control of" as a metric for determining a taxable event.
I hadn't seen that.

It's an interesting point to be sure.  I read that you're supposed to take staking rewards as income at the value when you receive them, but if you're leaving them staked, maybe you don't have to?

it's really wild how little in depth guidance there is on this stuff.

I can only imagine how much more so it was when this thread was started.

 
I hadn't seen that.

It's an interesting point to be sure.  I read that you're supposed to take staking rewards as income at the value when you receive them, but if you're leaving them staked, maybe you don't have to?

it's really wild how little in depth guidance there is on this stuff.

I can only imagine how much more so it was when this thread was started.
I agree.  Normally you're supposed to account for the income when received, similar to dividends.  However, it's not just a matter of me continuing to stake them after being claimed. They remain locked and I'm unable to access them.  If I wanted to sell them I couldn't.  Thus, I don't truly "have control" and may be able to defer the income until the unlock occurs in a year. 

 
I agree.  Normally you're supposed to account for the income when received, similar to dividends.  However, it's not just a matter of me continuing to stake them after being claimed. They remain locked and I'm unable to access them.  If I wanted to sell them I couldn't.  Thus, I don't truly "have control" and may be able to defer the income until the unlock occurs in a year. 
that is a different situation.  seems reasonable.  i suppose before long this will all be spelled out in excruciating detail in IRS code.

 
It's a nightmare.

I only started getting really heavy into it like a month ago and I've been trying to track it with a spreadsheet but it's borderline impossible.  Some of these purchases/stakes have like 10 transactions involved, each one with different fees and changes to the values of the underlying in the few minutes between each swap.  And most of these wallets don't make it super easy to see exactly what your buy/sell price was like exchanges do (heck even some of these exchanges make it difficult).

I've just been notating the cash amount I start with, and then the cash value of the asset I eventually end up with at the end of it all after all the swaps/gas, and hoping that's good enough.

There are tax apps like coinpanda and coinstats, has anyone used those?  Do they actually track all of the different fees and trades from all these random wallets and dex apps?  Or do they just work with the exchanges?
I use CoinTracker and it works great, although I don't trade much. Tracking transactions is free but they charge for the tax reports at year end. 

 
And is that just on exchanges or does it track all the various wallets, defi apps, gas fees, etc?
I'm inclined to use exchange transactions as the gateway and use those for tax reporting.  Once out in defi world "here ye be dragons" is a cloud of unknowable/untrackable that I'll settle out when I extract through the exchanges and zero out those entry purchases.  Anything over and above those will be zero basis gains (like they would be with mining, etc.).  

 
Matic is nice and coiled up at this point.  Once it can break $2.20 its gonna blast back to the ATH of $2.65.  

 
It's a nightmare.

I only started getting really heavy into it like a month ago and I've been trying to track it with a spreadsheet but it's borderline impossible.  Some of these purchases/stakes have like 10 transactions involved, each one with different fees and changes to the values of the underlying in the few minutes between each swap.  And most of these wallets don't make it super easy to see exactly what your buy/sell price was like exchanges do (heck even some of these exchanges make it difficult).

I've just been notating the cash amount I start with, and then the cash value of the asset I eventually end up with at the end of it all after all the swaps/gas, and hoping that's good enough.

There are tax apps like coinpanda and coinstats, has anyone used those?  Do they actually track all of the different fees and trades from all these random wallets and dex apps?  Or do they just work with the exchanges?
I think I used bitcoin.tax last year.  Just submitted the documentation from their report and the tax forms that uphold & coinbase provide.  Those apps definitely won’t track wallet or dex usage though, they only link up to exchange data.  

Not about to track cost basis & P/Ls and all that though.  Not reporting dex stuff 

 
imo, there really shouldn’t be any taxes until any of this stuff is converted back to USD or spent on actual goods. 

 
Is there any way to get BNB into Metamask or Trust Wall on BSC network without binance?

I have a bunch of BNB in my binance account but the BEP-20 network is down for withdrawals so I can't transfer out.  It's been down a few days now and some stuff I want to buy is on sale.

Man I hate dealing with Binance.  Why can't everyone just build their projects on AVAX that network is a delight to use.

 
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