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Bitcoins - anyone else mining? (1 Viewer)

I know nothing about Bitcoins, but walked down this morning to a news story about a Denton County Medical Facility now accepting bitcoins as a form of payment. Channel 5 (KENS) in SA ran the story.

 
Well-known hacktivist th3j35t3r has been making money on BTC; now he's developed an app to let you know when he's trading.

So I decided to create an Android App to provide folks with the first ever realtime Bitcoin trading signals direct from my own personal one-of-kind trading platform, affectionately known around here as ‘JayTrader’. Now I know what you are thinking… why would I release such a thing for everyone. Well, it’s already doing okay for me without releasing this app, so I figured if people use i, tthe signals become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s the age-old supply and demand rule right? More people buy, price goes up, more people sell, price goes down. It’s not rocket salad.

‘Bitcoin Bud’ for Android is directly linked to my ‘JayTrader’ server, which is in turn linked the the 3 major Bitcoin exchanges via their API’s for realtime price data. It’s like having me in your pocket, everytime I make a move on the Bitcoin Markets you will know about it LIVE with a notification on your device. It’s also a great way to see if I am still around when I go Twitter Dark!
 
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Well-known hacktivist th3j35t3r has been making money on BTC; now he's developed an app to let you know when he's trading.

So I decided to create an Android App to provide folks with the first ever realtime Bitcoin trading signals direct from my own personal one-of-kind trading platform, affectionately known around here as ‘JayTrader’. Now I know what you are thinking… why would I release such a thing for everyone. Well, it’s already doing okay for me without releasing this app, so I figured if people use i, tthe signals become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s the age-old supply and demand rule right? More people buy, price goes up, more people sell, price goes down. It’s not rocket salad.

‘Bitcoin Bud’ for Android is directly linked to my ‘JayTrader’ server, which is in turn linked the the 3 major Bitcoin exchanges via their API’s for realtime price data. It’s like having me in your pocket, everytime I make a move on the Bitcoin Markets you will know about it LIVE with a notification on your device. It’s also a great way to see if I am still around when I go Twitter Dark!
I'd be very careful about installing this app.

The cynic in me says it will steal your login/password info.

 
I scanned a couple of the listings, noticed all these tags in one of them - I love how many of these "currencies" are available now:

AmericanCoin (AMC)
BarbecueCoin (BQC)
BitBar (BTB)
Bitcoin (BTC)
ByteCoin (BTE)
ChinaCoin (CNC)
CryptogenicBullion (CB)
DigitalCoin (DGC)
DevCoin (DVC)
ElaCoin (ELC)
FastCoin (FST)
FeatherCoin (FTC)
Franko (FRK)
FreiCoin (FRC)
HyperCoin (HYC)
GoldCoin (GLD)
Infinitecoin (IFC)
IXCoin (IXC)
JunkCoin (JKC)
LiteCoin (LTC)
LuckyCoin (LKC)
MemeCoin (MEM)
MinCoin (MNC)
NameCoin (NMC)
Nibble (NBL)
NovaCoin (NVC)
PhenixCoin (PXC)
PowerCoin (PWC)
PPCoin (PPC)
RoyalCoin (RYC)
SexCoin (SXC)
SolidCoin (SC)
TerraCoin (TRC)
WorldCoin (WDC)
YaCoin (YAC)
 
I scanned a couple of the listings, noticed all these tags in one of them - I love how many of these "currencies" are available now:

AmericanCoin (AMC)
BarbecueCoin (BQC)
BitBar (BTB)
Bitcoin (BTC)
ByteCoin (BTE)
ChinaCoin (CNC)
CryptogenicBullion (CB)
DigitalCoin (DGC)
DevCoin (DVC)
ElaCoin (ELC)
FastCoin (FST)
FeatherCoin (FTC)
Franko (FRK)
FreiCoin (FRC)
HyperCoin (HYC)
GoldCoin (GLD)
Infinitecoin (IFC)
IXCoin (IXC)
JunkCoin (JKC)
LiteCoin (LTC)
LuckyCoin (LKC)
MemeCoin (MEM)
MinCoin (MNC)
NameCoin (NMC)
Nibble (NBL)
NovaCoin (NVC)
PhenixCoin (PXC)
PowerCoin (PWC)
PPCoin (PPC)
RoyalCoin (RYC)
SexCoin (SXC)
SolidCoin (SC)
TerraCoin (TRC)
WorldCoin (WDC)
YaCoin (YAC)
TLC is planning a reality series about digital currencies. Each episode will feature a different digital currency and the people behind it.

 
My new "like" currency is taking off. As soon as I can convince the powers that be to let me spend the likes I have received, I'm pretty confident I'll be able to cut a deal that will allow me to purchase anything on the bottom row.

 
chet said:
I think it wad covered in the FFA pretty in depth here

 
Sacramento Kings now accept bitcoin the first of many professional sports franchises to accept bitcoin?
Yeah, but they're a hot mess so that doesn't count. :pokey:
"We're having trouble selling tickets, any ideas?"

"We could accept Bitcoins."

"I have no idea what that is but set it up."
Yeah I'm sure a Super Bowl bound team was thinking the same exact thing when they decided to start accepting bitcoin.

What could be next? Maybe paying for your hotel in Vegas?

 
Thought this was pretty neat.

Aaron Williams: The Bitcoin baron | 20 People to Watch | Creative Loafing Atlanta

Aaron Williams: The Bitcoin baron The man helping pioneer 'ATMs' for the controversial digital currency

In a house in Sandy Springs, at a $12 desk purchased from Goodwill, Alpharetta native Aaron Williams is building what could become a financial empire.
The 36 year-old is working not in tweets, health care IT, or search engines, but in Bitcoin, the digital currency mined by computers that has been used to purchase everything from drugs to electric cars online. The Libertarian's fantasy that seems ripped from the pages of a modern Ayn Rand novel was created in 2008 by a mysterious person — or group of persons — known only as "Satoshi Nakamoto" and has earned fans in tech-savvy circles as an anonymous form of online payment. Its use has grown so quickly that Congress last month held a committee hearing on it. Rather than swat it down, lawmakers were keen on its potential.

To Williams, CEO of Atlanta Bitcoin, it's the Wild West.

"Bitcoin is an emerging industry," he says. "Part of the ecosystem isn't there."

He plans not just to roll out what's been dubbed a Bitcoin ATM — though technically, he points out, it's a dispenser.

People would be able to walk up to the machine, scan a QR code on their phone, and deposit cash to buy Bitcoin, which would be added to their "virtual wallet." Williams wants to unveil his first machine in February and install more throughout metro Atlanta in the following months.

How the Alpharetta native who didn't go to college made it to this point is a mix of luck, smarts, and an eye for emerging tech. A one-time temp who had a knack for creating systems and working with computers parlayed those skills into a job at a payments process firm. There he began testing credit card terminals, and over 12 years, rose through the ranks. Around the beginning of 2013, he started feeling frustrated and overlooked. Then he came across Bitcoin. It seemed like a perfect fit: "This is what I excel at, finding a new technology and applying it to today's needs."

He was fired in October when, one week before he unveiled his terminal and plan at the Crypto-Currency Conference in Atlanta, a trade publication included his employer's name in an article about his business plan. With the help of a consultant and a New York lawyer well-versed in Bitcoin whom Williams has paid with the digital currency, he's now focusing full time on his startup.

Williams estimates the dispenser business alone could be worth millions. And he has bigger plans for the many opportunities that he thinks Bitcoin could offer.

"My experience in payment processing allows me to see this as an empty space," Williams says. "One of the lines I give people is, 'If you were to go back and create VISA, how would you do it knowing everything we know now?'"

 
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Here is a interview fro a few days ago with this guy on GPB (PBS for Ga)

Bitcoin - Is it Really Money? [AUDIO]

Bitcoin, the new international digital currency is causing quite a discussion among investors and economists.

With no nation officially producing the "coin" some suggest it really has no actual value. Others suggest it is the perfect "exchange" mechanism for the future of online purchases and more.

One thing is for certain, bitcoin is hot. In the last year the value of a single bitcoin has gone from near $50 to around $1000.

This week on Georgia Works Radio we talk to Atlanta Bitcoin Founder, Aaron Williams. He not only champions bitcoin, he is helping to install bitcoin ATM machines around Georgia.

Also this week, we take a look at Mannington Mills. The international flooring company is expanding in Georgia with hundreds of new jobs.

Join us for Georgia Works Radio.

 
...then TigerDirect

...then NewEgg

I'd guess PayPal would integrate it by Q1 of 2015 which of course would include eBay, possibly late 2014.

Not sure on Amazon time table, Gyft is already working on a chrome extension I believe that would allow you to purchase an Amazon gift card for the exact amount of your purchase and apply it seamlessly.
"It's a possibility"

"How bad do you want it? #RT this and show us...GO!"

Pretty solid confirmations there. :)
Yes, pretty solid indeed:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/

http://www.tigerdirect.com/bitcoin/

 
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My new "like" currency is taking off. As soon as I can convince the powers that be to let me spend the likes I have received, I'm pretty confident I'll be able to cut a deal that will allow me to purchase anything on the bottom row.
Good news! I couldn't talk them into trading 100 likes for an eraser and a mini tootsie roll, but they did agree not to seek a restraining order.

We're going places.

 
This may seem like a small deal but I think this is huge news:

eBay to allow buying and selling of bitcoins starting next month

The fees to sell will still be atrocious at least there will be no shipping costs, but I can see this being the catalyst of bringing btc to the masses. The largest obstacle to people purchasing btc today is all of the hoops you need to jump through in order secure the purchase. Currently the fastest way to purchase btc is through localbitcoins.com which IMO is similar to buying/selling on Craigslist since there is an element of risk. You still have an element of risk with eBay but it is much smaller especially if eBay takes any measures to ensure the transaction of btc from the seller's account to the buyer's account was successfully committed to the blockchain before releasing the paypal funds.

ETA: Looks like this is an alternative to eBay for fast transactions, they do have escrow as well to protect your purchase:

https://cryptothrift.com/

 
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TigerDirect does a quarter million in bitcoin sales in first 17 hours, double what Overstock did in their first 24 hours
nice link.

so tiger direct sells bitcoin mining hardware to people that turn around and use what they got to buy more hardware. then TD dumps the fake currency for cash.

 
TigerDirect does a quarter million in bitcoin sales in first 17 hours, double what Overstock did in their first 24 hours
nice link.so tiger direct sells bitcoin mining hardware to people that turn around and use what they got to buy more hardware. then TD dumps the fake currency for cash.
linkYes, DrJ, bitcoin is 1 big conspiracy! That's why the #1 ordered item from Overstock with bitcoins was sheets. It's also why all the profitable miners buy their rigs at TigerDirect because obviously they have the most advanced technology for mining and why TigerDirect sold advertising banners to Butterfly Labs.

Can the arguments you make be any easier to ridicule?

 
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My bank is way too nosy, I have two business and a personal account and I get asked questions whenever I make a large transfer / wire / withdrawal - I get asked what line of business I am in way too often. I'd switch banks if this ever happened to me:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717

I get the whole money laundering perspective, but the banks are too intrusive, there is no "guilty until proven innocent" policy that they need to enforce.

All the more reason to take banks out of the equation.

But Eric Leenders, head of retail at the British Bankers Association, said banks were sensible to ask questions of their customers: "I can understand it's frustrating for customers. But if you are making the occasional large cash withdrawal, the bank wants to make sure it's the right way to make the payment."
What makes banks more qualified to judge how I spend my money? You go to the bank, they take your signature, your ID, your bank card, they can even have you push in your PIN - that should be the extent of your transaction to verify your identity. It is none of the bank's business what your business is for withdrawing your money.

 
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Banks don't like you withdrawing large amounts of cash ever because they only actually hold a tiny fraction of that amount in physical currency.

 
My bank is way too nosy, I have two business and a personal account and I get asked questions whenever I make a large transfer / wire / withdrawal - I get asked what line of business I am in way too often. I'd switch banks if this ever happened to me:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717

I get the whole money laundering perspective, but the banks are too intrusive, there is no "guilty until proven innocent" policy that they need to enforce.

All the more reason to take banks out of the equation.

But Eric Leenders, head of retail at the British Bankers Association, said banks were sensible to ask questions of their customers: "I can understand it's frustrating for customers. But if you are making the occasional large cash withdrawal, the bank wants to make sure it's the right way to make the payment."
What makes banks more qualified to judge how I spend my money? You go to the bank, they take your signature, your ID, your bank card, they can even have you push in your PIN - that should be the extent of your transaction to verify your identity. It is none of the bank's business what your business is for withdrawing your money.
yes I too hate it when banks try to prevent fraud and safeguard customer accounts.
 
Banks don't like you withdrawing large amounts of cash ever because they only actually hold a tiny fraction of that amount in physical currency.
Then they should say we don't have that much cash. It would be much better than asking their customers, "what do you need this money for?"

 
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My bank is way too nosy, I have two business and a personal account and I get asked questions whenever I make a large transfer / wire / withdrawal - I get asked what line of business I am in way too often. I'd switch banks if this ever happened to me:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717

I get the whole money laundering perspective, but the banks are too intrusive, there is no "guilty until proven innocent" policy that they need to enforce.

All the more reason to take banks out of the equation.

But Eric Leenders, head of retail at the British Bankers Association, said banks were sensible to ask questions of their customers: "I can understand it's frustrating for customers. But if you are making the occasional large cash withdrawal, the bank wants to make sure it's the right way to make the payment."
What makes banks more qualified to judge how I spend my money? You go to the bank, they take your signature, your ID, your bank card, they can even have you push in your PIN - that should be the extent of your transaction to verify your identity. It is none of the bank's business what your business is for withdrawing your money.
yes I too hate it when banks try to prevent fraud and safeguard customer accounts.
How are they preventing fraud or safeguarding customer accounts?

Isn't that what asking for an ID, verifying their signature and requesting the customer's PIN are for?

Do you really think a bank teller is preventing fraud by asking a customer "what line of work is he in?", and "why do you need to withdraw $7k?"

 
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Banks don't like you withdrawing large amounts of cash ever because they only actually hold a tiny fraction of that amount in physical currency.
Then they should say we don't have that much cash. It would be much better than asking their customers, "what do you need this money for?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report
That is exactly the problem. I should clarify, SARs is not the problem, the problem lies where the banks that assume any transaction over $1k is a potential SAR - so they are covering their ### at the expense of the individual's privacy.

SARs include detailed information about transactions that are or appear to be suspicious
 
Today's news:

We the Internet: Bitcoin developers seed idea for Bitcloud

(Phys.org) —A developer group is seeding a project that would behave as a decentralized Internet, in a departure from the present model. Posting their intentions recently on Reddit, they said "We will have to start by decentralizing the current Internet, and then we can create a new Internet to replace it." Called Bitcloud, they propose a peer to peer system for sharing bandwidth. Individual users would complete computing tasks such as routing, storing, or computing in exchange for cash. As the BBC explained, "Just as Bitcoin miners provide computing power and are rewarded for solving complex mathematical equations with the virtual currency, so individual net users would be rewarded based on how much bandwidth they contribute to the Bitcloud network."

Elaborating on Reddit about this cash model, the developers said this about payments: "One of the many problems of certain free and open source projects in the past has been the lack of a profit incentive. With Bitcloud, nodes on a mesh network can be rewarded financially for routing traffic in a brand new mesh network. This removes the need for Internet Service Providers."
bitcoin on today's Sqawk Box

 
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found out over the weekend that a former co-worker did pretty well with bitcoins. He invested $2,500 a few years ago and cashed out for $56,000.

 
I am mainly in this to see the daily jojo trainwreck, but in a real world environment how is buying BTC not the best money laundering system ever devised?

quietly on a slow bleed again. Seems in a trading range of 700-900.

 
How do you make change for a bitcoin? If they are trading for $900, and I have 1 bitcoin, how do I only buy $500 worth of a hitman's time on silkroad? Asking for a friend.

 
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I am mainly in this to see the daily jojo trainwreck, but in a real world environment how is buying BTC not the best money laundering system ever devised?

quietly on a slow bleed again. Seems in a trading range of 700-900.
Regardless of your convictions, it is. There is a reason why these guys got arrested with ties to Silk Road.

Also, when the trading is so thin that the folks with the large cache of bitcoins can basically set the price and there is no oversight on that, it is pretty easy to print money. They were able to get the mainstream buy in, which was perfect. Basically, printing money, setting the price and buying/selling illegal things was extremely easy to do.

I know Silk Road was shut down back in October, so I wonder if these arrests are actually part of that investigation. That is a pretty huge arrest of a CEO of a well know bitcoin company and the vice chairman of the bitcoin foundation. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.

 
I am mainly in this to see the daily jojo trainwreck, but in a real world environment how is buying BTC not the best money laundering system ever devised?

quietly on a slow bleed again. Seems in a trading range of 700-900.
You are clearly clueless and don't understand how difficult it is to hide money w/ btc.

And what slide are you talking about? Keep spreading FUD :thumbup:

https://www.mtgox.com/
You act like i give a ####. All I want is for something like this to force open and legal online gaming/sportsbooks. If it does that then I'll change my user name to #1 Fan of Bitcoin and Jojo

 
How do you make change for a bitcoin? If they are trading for $900, and I have 1 bitcoin, how do I only buy $500 worth of a hitman's time on silkroad? Asking for a friend.
They'll give you change in smaller denominations like Litecoins, Digicoins, etc.

 
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Good writeup - http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/dealbook/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/

But I hope that I have given you a sense of the enormous promise of Bitcoin. Far from a mere libertarian fairy tale or a simple Silicon Valley exercise in hype, Bitcoin offers a sweeping vista of opportunity to reimagine how the financial system can and should work in the Internet era, and a catalyst to reshape that system in ways that are more powerful for individuals and businesses alike.
I want to believe...

 
For the other side, I know the following is regarding Dogecoins, not Bitcoins, but it'd be foolish to think the same thing isn't happening in Bitcoins right now:

Text chat of a pump/dump operation, that kinda went bad for the guy trying to arrange it:

http://pastebin.com/tZYvK7UD

It was originally happening in the public channel #dogecoin-market on Freenode but was then moved to the private channel #marketmakers, which seems to have spurred people to start sharing it everywhere since now it's private.Wolong is the guy who brought the Dogecoin price to where it is now by investing a ton of money into it, and due to that and some charisma he's attracted a cult following. He's now using that cult following to have them do pump/dump ops for him (with their money).
 
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