I meant all of your reactions. Would Tim freak if the guy was Jewish? Would Mormons freak if he was Mormon? What if the neighborhood was known for these groups, and hence were essentially being targeted?I can pretty much guarantee you that those kids could not pick out a Bosnian from a German from an Italian from an Australian. We are talking about kids who are out hammerin' for fun. This is caveman level shtick that they are propagating here.What if he was a different white 'minority'? Jewish? Canadian? Mormon? British? Would that change any of your reactions?
Well, the police in this area certainly do have a penchant for bending the truth.meatwad1 said:http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html
Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.![]()
The only consistency in the media is that they have an agenda and they shape the news and the delivery of it in order to push that agenda. The two big stories from today are the continued fallout due to the ferguson police and a republican aide who resigned for criticizing the Obama kids on her Facebook page.By pointing out the difference in coverage between the death of a Bosnian man and that of a black man, the person making the comparison is implying that they should be covered the same. There are only two reasons for someone to believe that. Either:Which sentence and how does it make your statement that people are attempting "to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society" correct?Probably because you've taken one sentence out of the first post above.I don't see your second post above being the same as your first post above.Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.
I certainly agree with your second post that "people are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.
You can do the latter without doing the former.
a) They think that all instances like this (a violent death) should be covered the same regardless of "race" because "race" does not matter.
or
b) They think that race does matter, and the death of a Bosnian should be covered the same as the death of a black person because they are both suppressed (in some way) minority groups that have experienced similar histories of discrimination or persecution or been the subject of institutional "racism."
Both points are, in my opinion, stupid. If you're saying that I've assumed that it was b when it could've just been a, then okay, maybe it was. But they're both stupid.Thanks for your explanation.
Personally, though, I do believe that the media should be relatively consistent in how they mention perpetrator and victim race, and the media opens itself to justified scrutiny when the media treats cases so disparately based on the victims' or perpetrators' race.
Oddly, even though I believe in more consistent media treatment, I don't fall into either your A or B categories above. I'm a bit of an outlier in other facets of my life, though, so perhaps I'm also a bit of an outlier here.
No, those people already thought that.Did the Ferguson coverage actually manage to flip the narrative to the point that people now believe that crimes against blacks are reported more than crimes against whites?
Do you really think that a person who would mug "for Mike Brown" would not have otherwise been mugging?I hope these thug MF'ers all get the death penalty. I was afraid of random, innocent white people falling victim to thugs in retaliation to the Ferguson incident. There have been other reports of white people being mugged "for Mike Brown."
I hope people mug for me when I pass.I hope these thug MF'ers all get the death penalty. I was afraid of random, innocent white people falling victim to thugs in retaliation to the Ferguson incident. There have been other reports of white people being mugged "for Mike Brown."
Sometimes you need inspiration.Do you really think that a person who would mug "for Mike Brown" would not have otherwise been mugging?I hope these thug MF'ers all get the death penalty. I was afraid of random, innocent white people falling victim to thugs in retaliation to the Ferguson incident. There have been other reports of white people being mugged "for Mike Brown."
But he was Bosnian?New details are coming out. They were screaming "F*** the white people"...."Kill the White People". What a disgrace.
Thanks Odumbo!!!!
Looked Dominican to me.But he was Bosnian?New details are coming out. They were screaming "F*** the white people"...."Kill the White People". What a disgrace.
Thanks Odumbo!!!!![]()
maybe they are carpenters looking for an honest days work?All bull#### and shtick aside, I can't believe he wasn't targeted bc he was white. They didn't even steal anything from him and what are they doing out with hammers?
I don't think many non-criminals will become criminals, although some could. I'd call it more of a substitution effect; seeking out crime against white folks instead of robbing a neighborhood liquor store and whatnot in the name of mike brown. Do you disagree with me?Do you really think that a person who would mug "for Mike Brown" would not have otherwise been mugging?I hope these thug MF'ers all get the death penalty. I was afraid of random, innocent white people falling victim to thugs in retaliation to the Ferguson incident. There have been other reports of white people being mugged "for Mike Brown."
I blame Thor.All bull#### and shtick aside, I can't believe he wasn't targeted bc he was white. They didn't even steal anything from him and what are they doing out with hammers?
What is the motive here?
I read the prosecutor has the wheels in motion to have them tried as adults. Can we make an example out of these lowlife thugs? I think torture should be on the table, just my opinion although that obviously won't happen, hopefully life with no parole comes to fruition.
Well then, they shoulda been at the Ferguson Home Depot.maybe they are carpenters looking for an honest days work?All bull#### and shtick aside, I can't believe he wasn't targeted bc he was white. They didn't even steal anything from him and what are they doing out with hammers?
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THANKS OBAMA!Why can't the headline just be teen boys kill man with hammers?
Black Teens Attempting to Surrender Hammers attacked by Cracker's Head.Why can't the headline just be teen boys kill man with hammers?
....or why can't the headline just be officer kills young man after he robbed a store?Why can't the headline just be teen boys kill man with hammers?
LOL, that is signature worthy.Black Teens Attempting to Surrender Hammers attacked by Cracker's Head.Why can't the headline just be teen boys kill man with hammers?
Next they'll be arguing that the Irish are white.Wait, is someone actually arguing that Bosnians are WHITE?!?!?
Seriously! Is nothing sacred?Next they'll be arguing that the Irish are white.Wait, is someone actually arguing that Bosnians are WHITE?!?!?
Next they will argue they are Muslim. Wait, what!?Wait, is someone actually arguing that Bosnians are WHITE?!?!?
"Overdressed"What do you consider this?Wait, is someone actually arguing that Bosnians are WHITE?!?!?
You are right, only an idiot would make either of those points. My point is that the Micheal Brown death has been blown way out of proportion. He was pretty much a waste of space who was asking to get shot by the cop. I know that is harsh, but face up to facts..if you attack a cop in the United States, he or she is probably shooting you and for very good reason.By pointing out the difference in coverage between the death of a Bosnian man and that of a black man, the person making the comparison is implying that they should be covered the same. There are only two reasons for someone to believe that. Either:Which sentence and how does it make your statement that people are attempting "to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society" correct?Probably because you've taken one sentence out of the first post above.I don't see your second post above being the same as your first post above.Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.
I certainly agree with your second post that "people are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.
You can do the latter without doing the former.
a) They think that all instances like this (a violent death) should be covered the same regardless of "race" because "race" does not matter.
or
b) They think that race does matter, and the death of a Bosnian should be covered the same as the death of a black person because they are both suppressed (in some way) minority groups that have experienced similar histories of discrimination or persecution or been the subject of institutional "racism."
Both points are, in my opinion, stupid. If you're saying that I've assumed that it was b when it could've just been a, then okay, maybe it was. But they're both stupid.
Serious question based on your year range - when do you think the civil rights movement happened?You are right, only an idiot would make either of those points. My point is that the Micheal Brown death has been blown way out of proportion. He was pretty much a waste of space who was asking to get shot by the cop. I know that is harsh, but face up to facts..if you attack a cop in the United States, he or she is probably shooting you and for very good reason.By pointing out the difference in coverage between the death of a Bosnian man and that of a black man, the person making the comparison is implying that they should be covered the same. There are only two reasons for someone to believe that. Either:Which sentence and how does it make your statement that people are attempting "to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society" correct?Probably because you've taken one sentence out of the first post above.I don't see your second post above being the same as your first post above.Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.
I certainly agree with your second post that "people are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.
You can do the latter without doing the former.
a) They think that all instances like this (a violent death) should be covered the same regardless of "race" because "race" does not matter.
or
b) They think that race does matter, and the death of a Bosnian should be covered the same as the death of a black person because they are both suppressed (in some way) minority groups that have experienced similar histories of discrimination or persecution or been the subject of institutional "racism."
Both points are, in my opinion, stupid. If you're saying that I've assumed that it was b when it could've just been a, then okay, maybe it was. But they're both stupid.
This story should actually be huge because we are talking about three idiots who randomly picked out a 'white' guy (hint for you tools who keep with the Bosnian angle) and beat him to death as a form of retribution for their own culture of failure and depravity. Of course, all liberals will continue to make excuses for these pathetic losers. Nice work. I am sure MLK is looking down with pride at your parade of excuses for this celebration of evil.
Hey...maybe the next person to get pulled out of his car and beaten to death will be Tobias, Tim, or Apple Jack, or even more exciting, one of their kids. Maybe as the back end of one of hammers goes through their ear and one of the other ones obliterates a testicle, and then shatters their fibula into a thousand jagged shards you guys will have a 'come to Jesus' moment and will finally stop rationalizing the depraved and backwards culture that perpetuates these steroetypes and also holds back the African American race as a whole. My point is easy....it is sh&t like this that screws black people as a group more than anything, not stuff that happened 60 - 150 years ago. Nobody except egghead professor types care about any of that and that will never change. Behavior like this needs to be highlighted and turned against, not rationalized and secretly celebrated.