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Blackjacks 1st mock draft for 2011 (1 Viewer)

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1 Carolina Panthers - Nick Fairley

2 Denver Broncos - Da-Quan Bowers

3 Buffalo Bills - Cam Newton

4 Cincinnati Bengals - Blaine Gabbert

5 Arizona Cardinals - Von Miller

6 Cleveland Browns - AJ Green

7 SF 49ers - Patrick Peterson

8 Tenn Titans - Prince Amukamara

9 Dallas Cowboys - Anthony Castonzo

10 Wash Redskins - Marcell Dareus

11 Houston Texans - Robert Quinn

12 Minn Vikings - JJ Watt

13 Detroit Lions - Gabe Carimi

14 St Louis Rams - Julio Jones

15 Miami Dolphins - Cameron Jordan

16 Jacksonville Jags - Christian Ponder

17 NE Pats - Aldon Smith

18 San Diego Chargers - Jimmy Smith

19 NY Giants - Mark Ingram

20 Tampa Bay Bucs - Derek Sherrod

21 KC Chiefs - Akeem Ayers

22 Indy Colts - Nate Solder

23 Phila Eagles - Tyrone Smith

24 N. O. Saints - Ryan Kerrigan

25 Seattle Seahawks - Jake Locker

26 Balt Ravens - Torrey Smith

27 Altanta Falcons - Mikel Leshoure

28 NE Pats - Mike Pouncey

29 NY Jets - Corey Liuget

30 Chicago Bears - Jonathon Baldwin

31 Pittsburgh Steelers - Adrien Clayborn

32 Green Bay Packers - Brandon Harris

 
I could see Cleveland moving up to get AJ Green. They really need him. If they could get him where they sit it would be a steal.

Also if SF can stand pat and get the best player int eh draft kuddos to them.

The 2 picks that will surprise people on this board is the NYG pick and the ATL pick. I see the Giants missing "the guy" in their offense and ATL is built around the run and Turner is getting old.

I have been a big fan of Ponder since last year and I still think he will be the best QB that comes out of this class. I think he will go in the first and Jax makes perfect sense.

The only guarantee I will give is "IF" Jake Locker is there for Seattle he will be a Seahawk.

Someone is getting a very good QB in Mallet in the second round

 
Last year all I heard was the Vikings need a DT - Pat Williams is getting old. Yada yada yada. Vikings drafted zero DTs. This year the story is that the Vikings need a DE. Who making up these fairy tales?

Vikings need to be drafting Olinemen. Favre was getting killed last year. If the Vikings plan to draft and develop a QB, they might want to think about protecting their investment.

 
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Last year all I heard was the Vikings need a DT - Pat Williams is getting old. Yada yada yada. Vikings drafted zero DTs. This year the story is that the Vikings need a DE. Who making up these fairy tales? Vikings need to be drafting Olinemen. Favre was getting killed last year. If the Vikings plan to draft and develop a QB, they might want to think about protecting their investment.
While I agree with you I can't see the Vikes passing on Watts if he would still be there. There is a defensive minded head coach is in charge and to be able to lineup Watt on the other side of Jared Allen.......that would be scary
 
1 Carolina Panthers - Nick Fairley

2 Denver Broncos - Da-Quan Bowers

3 Buffalo Bills - Cam Newton

4 Cincinnati Bengals - Blaine Gabbert

5 Arizona Cardinals - Von Miller

6 Cleveland Browns - AJ Green

7 SF 49ers - Patrick Peterson

8 Tenn Titans - Prince Amukamara

9 Dallas Cowboys - Anthony Castonzo

10 Wash Redskins - Marcell Dareus

11 Houston Texans - Robert Quinn

12 Minn Vikings - JJ Watt

13 Detroit Lions - Gabe Carimi

14 St Louis Rams - Julio Jones

15 Miami Dolphins - Cameron Jordan

16 Jacksonville Jags - Christian Ponder

17 NE Pats - Aldon Smith

18 San Diego Chargers - Jimmy Smith

19 NY Giants - Mark Ingram

20 Tampa Bay Bucs - Derek Sherrod

21 KC Chiefs - Akeem Ayers

22 Indy Colts - Nate Solder

23 Phila Eagles - Tyrone Smith

24 N. O. Saints - Ryan Kerrigan

25 Seattle Seahawks - Jake Locker

26 Balt Ravens - Torrey Smith

27 Altanta Falcons - Mikel Leshoure

28 NE Pats - Mike Pouncey

29 NY Jets - Corey Liuget

30 Chicago Bears - Jonathon Baldwin

31 Pittsburgh Steelers - Adrien Clayborn

32 Green Bay Packers - Brandon Harris
Mike Mayock just declared his top 32 players from this draft.Not a mock but this is what he feels are the top 16 players from this draft.

Go to the link for a video of his explanation of the top sixteen and there you can find the remainder of his top 32 list but here's his top sixteen players from this draft.

LINK Mayock's top 16

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1. Marcell Dareus*, DT, Alabama

This is my favorite player in the country this year. He has tremendous foot speed for a player his size. He can play the nose, the three-technique and showed he can play the five-technique. From my perspective, I don't think he can possibly get past Denver at No. 2.

2. Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M

He's a special guy off the edge and reminds me an awful lot of DeMarcus Ware that way. However, he's not as big, so therefore won't generate quite as much power.

3. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU

A lot of people think he might be the best player in this draft, and he might be. He has the return skills of a man 40 pounds smaller than he is. He has the ability to move, to press, to play off. He's a little tight in the hips, but I don't care. He's a great football player.

4. A.J. Green*, WR, Georgia

Oh my goodness. If you have any questions about this kid, after being suspended the first four games last season, he came out in week five against two future NFL cornerbacks against Colorado and had seven catches for more than 100 yards. That includes one of the best back-of-shoulder catches I've ever seen in my life.

5. Blaine Gabbert*, QB, Missouri

He's my No. 1 quarterback. He comes out of a spread offense, and his footwork needs to improve, but he has all the rest. He's athletic, has a big arm, loves the game of football, has anticipation to throw into small windows, and the accuracy to back it up. He could be the first guy off the board.

6. Robert Quinn*, DE, North Carolina

He's a one-year wonder because of his NCAA suspension. I think from an edge-rush perspective, he might be the best guy in the draft.

7. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

He's a warrior. He ran 4.39 at the combine, but on tape I think he plays more like a 4.5 guy. That's what I think he plays at, and that's fine. His throwing radius, ability to run and ability to catch are phenomenal.

8. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

To me he's a lightning rod. I was at his pro day workout, and from a foot-speed perspective, it doesn't get much better than what he can do. He ran through the bag drills, and it was ridiculous. However, he's a boom-or-bust guy. Right now, I have him here, but he's got more talent than that. Depending on what type of kid he is, I could have him dropping out of the first round entirely.

9. Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

This kid is a gifted cornerback who can play press and can play off. Watch the game tape against Oklahoma State and Justin Blackmon, maybe the best one or two receivers in college last season, because there are some misnomers. The kid played a lot better than people give him credit for.

10. Da'Quan Bowers*, DE, Clemson

I boxed him in here for a reason. He has more ability than No. 10, but he's a one-year wonder. He had 15.5 sacks last season, and the two years before that he only had four combined. I want to know why.

11. Anthony Castonzo, OL, Boston College

I really believe he or (Tyron) Smith are the first tackle off the board. He's a tough guy in the run game, he has great feet as a former tight end. I love his upside, and he had a great week of Senior Bowl practice, although he didn't play quite as well in the game.

12. J.J. Watt*, DE, Wisconsin

I believe this kid is the real deal. He's another prototype of a five-technique, a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme. If you don't like him, put the TCU game tape on. The numbers weren't big, but the kid dominated.

13. Tyron Smith*, OT, USC

He played on the right side and came out as a junior, and has the most potential of any tackle in the draft.

14. Aldon Smith*, DE, Missouri

This young man has so much potential, it's scary. Put the 2009 game tape on against Russell Okung and Danny Watkins and you'll get a better view of what he can do. He played through a lot of pain last season.

15. Cameron Jordan, DE, California

He brings scheme-versatility. I think he's an ideal defensive end in a 3-4, but can kick inside and overwhelm guards too. He can even play out on the edge.

16. Mark Ingram*, RB, Alabama

This is one of the angriest runners I've ever seen. He's a three-down back. This is a kid who can play 16 games and want to play more. He can pass protect, catch the football, and has tremendous balance and vision.

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Can't say I agree with you that Cleveland would consider trading up for anyone in this draft, as a matter of fact they are in prime position to trade down if one of the top-two QBs fall to the sixth pick. A.J. Green will most likely still be on the board till the tenth pick of the first round. Also the Browns are switching to a 4-3 defense and lack two pass rushing 4-3 DEs and a true 3 technique 4-3 DT.

With Bowers and Quinn and Fairley and Dareus and then consider Peterson and Miller before bringing up A.J. Green means that they are assured of getting one of the best players from this draft and/or filling a big need and D-Line may eclipse WR as the biggest need for the Browns considering that they have two young WRs in Brian Robiskie and Mohammad Massaquoi who have been under-utilized and in a run-heavy offense which didn't suit their skill set or give them the opportunity to showcase what they can do.

Green would fit but so would, Bowers or Quinn or Dareus or Fairley and if a QB falls they could trade down and still land a WR or D-lineman.

Here's Tony Grossi's article from this morning giving a pretty good scenario of how the first round might go.

LINK Browns could trade down if QB falls to their pick

... Cam Newton and Blaine Gabbert figure to have the biggest impact on the Browns' pick at No. 6.

... Newton and Gabbert will dictate the flow of players in the top 10 picks.

"If the two quarterbacks go in the top five picks, somebody [worthy of No. 1] is going to be available as low as eighth," said ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. "Right now, you have eight or nine guys that are worthy of being the first pick."

Besides the quarterbacks, the contenders are: LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson, Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green, Texas A&M linebacker Von Miller, Clemson defensive end Da'Quan Bowers, Alabama defensive tackle Marcell Dareus and Auburn defensive tackle Nick Fairley.

Let's ponder a few scenarios:

• If Newton and Gabbert both are drafted in the top five -- Carolina, Buffalo, Cincinnati and Arizona certainly could justify taking a quarterback -- it should leave the Browns at least one of the three linemen.

• If Cincinnati, in particular, takes either one of the quarterbacks at No. 4, it probably would assure Green available at No. 6. The Bengals are the only team above the Browns pegged as a possible suitor for Green.

If one of the quarterbacks is still on the board at No. 6, the Browns likely would be able to entertain trade offers from one or more of the teams immediately behind them. Those teams would be San Francisco at No. 7, Tennessee at No. 8, Washington at No. 10 and Minnesota at No. 12.

... Moving down -- even two spots to No. 8 -- could cost the Browns a defensive lineman. But they might still have Green waiting for them because San Francisco at No. 7 is not considered in the market for a receiver.
 
I can see your point but in watching Cleveland the last couple of years they have really improved on offense and they do have some young nice options at wr but they are missing an elite talent like Green. I believe he is a guy that could help the offensive stats jump up about 10 spots in the o rankings.

 
I can see your point but in watching Cleveland the last couple of years they have really improved on offense and they do have some young nice options at wr but they are missing an elite talent like Green. I believe he is a guy that could help the offensive stats jump up about 10 spots in the o rankings.
ESPN's James Walker covers the AFCN teams and he does a mailbag Q&A each week. His first question this week asked about the possibility of the Browns trading down this year, this is what he said.LINK ESPN James Walker AFCN blog Q&A

Michael H from San Antonio, Texas, wants to know how likely is it for the Cleveland Browns to trade the No. 6 overall pick.

James Walker: There's always a possibility, Michael, and this is a great year to do it, because there are a lot of good prospects in the top 20. The Browns wanted to trade down last year but could not generate enough interest in their seventh pick. This year, there will be several teams looking to move up depending on how the draft board shakes out. But I think the Browns, who need more star players, would be wise to take the best player at No. 6.
I posted a top-ten a few weeks ago and tweaked it about a week ago.In my original mock I had the Browns trading down to the 10th pick.

Orginal top-ten

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1. Carolina - DT Nick Farley

2. Denver - DE Da Quan Bowers

3. Buffalo - CB Patrick Paterson

4. Cincinnati - WR A.J. Green

5. Arizona - LB Von Miller

6. **trade** Cleveland trades down with Washington**Washington - QB Cam Newton

7. San Francisco - QB Blaine Gabbert

8. Tennessee - DE/DT Marcell Dereus

9. Dallas - CB Pince Akumara

10. **trade** Cleveland w/Washington - DE Robert Quinn

Updated top-ten list

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1. Carolina - DE/DT Marcell Dereus

The Combine hurt Fairley's value. Peter King swears he has fallen. On the other hand Dereus had a great combine and the raw numbers show him being 20 lbs heavier and having a quicker short-shuttle, i.e., explosion off the snap than Fairley. All signs point to him being a 'safer' pick and rising up draft boards so I moved him in to the top slot.

2. Denver - DE Da Quan Bowers

I stick with Bowers going to Denver.

3. Buffalo - LB Von Miller

I've come around on Von Miller having big time pass rush game.

4. Cincinnati - CB Patrick Paterson

No corner has ever gone with the first pick before so I don't see it.

5. Arizona - QB Blaine Gabbert

Cam raised enough questions that his stock dropped. Comparatively Gabbert's stock rose and I think if Miller is off the board that Arizona will go QB and nab Gabbert.

6. Cleveland - WR A.J. Green

Green has done nothing wrong but is nudged down due to Gabbert getting taken higher.

7. San Francisco - DE/OLB Robert Quinn

Quinn's is a pass rushing force who projects as an OLB ALA DeMarcus Ware and that could work in his favor rather than having to play up on the LOS because I think he's weak against the run and he could fit better if he doesn't have to directly take on blockers every snap.

8. Tennessee - DT Nick Farley

Fairely could go much higher, even back to #1 but if he gets passed on the top three picks then he could slide all the way down to the 8th pick.

9. Dallas - CB Pince Akumara

Prince to Dallas still seems a good fit to me.

10. Washington - QB Cam Newton

Cam is at least one year away from transfering his raw incredible athletic skills into being a legit starter. I don't feel he's ready to plug and play and that he needs a solid offensive QB guru like Shanahan to, coach, mentor, ride him into growing into his potential.

I would tweak the list again today and give explanations of changes from previous update.

1. Carolina - DE/DT Marcell Dereus no change

2. Denver - DE Da Quan Bowers no change

3. Buffalo - LB Von Miller no change

4. Cincinnati - QB Blaine Gabbert

Carson Palmer is gonzo, Nati needs another QB and take the best of the bunch.

5. Arizona - CB Patrick Paterson

Miss out on Von Miller so take BPA.

6. **trade** Cleveland trades down with Washington**[u]Washington - QB Cam Newton

Cam has questions but he also has a huge upside. When will be the next time that Mike Shanahan gets a shot to groom a young franchise QB? If he can move up and get Cam for a second or third round pick he doesn't hesitate.

7. San Francisco - OLB/DE Robert Quinn

San Fran takes an edge pass rusher and will calculate the risk of making a positional switch to a 3-4 OLB from a 4-3 DE who played down on the line. A bit of a transitional period but should pay off down the line.

8. Tennessee - DT Nick Farley no change

9. Dallas - CB Pince Akumara no change

10. **trade** Cleveland w/Washington - WR A.J. Green

Cleveland has many needs/holes and they can go any number of directions if they can still remain in the top-ten. Should Green not be here they can shift into taking the best D-Lineman available or even horizontally moving to nab Julio Jones at this spot. The only position that another team would make this trade for is a QB.

 
I can see your point but in watching Cleveland the last couple of years they have really improved on offense and they do have some young nice options at wr but they are missing an elite talent like Green. I believe he is a guy that could help the offensive stats jump up about 10 spots in the o rankings.
Just for the record, the Browns will probably draft a DE in the first round. While AJ Green fits their need at WR, they are going to a 4-3 defense. This draft is very deep with star-quality DEs.My choice, should the draft fall as OP suggests, would be Peterson, hands down. Still, trading out of #6 is a very real possibility. There will be several top-notch players available, making that spot exciting!
 
While Clayborn probably fits the 3-4 pretty well....the Steelers under the Colbert/Tomlin watch ADORE drafting underclassmen(Tomlin stated something once about how he feels it 'maximizes their chances at development by getting players younger', or somesuch, and apparently Colbert agrees with him). They almost never start rookies unless forced, so it appears they are very comfortable selecting Juniors and "redshirting" them. Plus, they have "drafted for need" with their #1s during Tomlin's tenure too, whether they espouse otherwise or not(They vehemently stick to the "We will draft the BPA" line, but they will totally draft for need unless a major reach is required). They needed a C a last year, so they took a C. Needed a DL the year before, took a DE. Needed a LB two years before that, took a LB(and then another in round 2). Only real "BPA" they've drafted in the first in Tomlin's time in Pitty has been Mendenhall(an underclassmen himself, FWIW).

In this scenario, with guys like Harris or Williams on the board, I'd wager they'd draft a CB. They need a #2 CB(#1 if Taylor goes elsewhere) badly. With two highly regarded underclassmen available at their pick in your mock, were I betting on how they'd roll I'd be sliding my chips to the "One Of Those Junior Corners" square on the table. Particularly with how deep this class is with potential 3-4 defensive lineman.

 
thanks for posting yours blackjacks

Why don't you have the Titans grabbing a QB? They have none. 2nd rounder?

 
I think the contract pay scale moved Ingram up and Solder has earned to be moved up with his predraft-offseason.

 
'SproutDaddy said:
All these mocks with Julio falling to the Rams are just ridiculous. He will be a top 10 pick.
He rocked at combine, then had ankle surgery. Gotta raise an eyebrow-good (play thru pain) or bad (surgery).Teams with Crabtree, Britt, Bryant aren't really pressing for a good young WR. I would love the idea if SF or TEN did (and the expected commitment to throw) but it's somewhat tough to project that in a mock IMO
 
Greg Gabriel puts forth an interesting argument. http://www.nationalf...-the-draft.html. If the season continues to be postponed, it may effect the QBs draft position.

None of the quarterbacks in this class played in a predominantly pro-style offense in college. Clubs would have used the offseason program and the OTA's to work on the mechanics of the rookies and to give them time to learn their offenses. Without that valuable instruction period, how much value will a rookie quarterback have to a club? Their rookie years could be a wash, and if a club has a choice to draft a quarterback who won't play versus a player who will give them some production they may choose the latter.
As well, I'm uncertain when the rookie wage will go into effect. What happens if doesn't go into effect until next year? Can teams justify reaching for a top 10 QB when they could get similar talent next year with less of a long term financial commitment? Some people were calling out Luck for staying in school. I don't recall many people calling Gabbert and Newton for being greedy and stupid for coming out early. That might change.

 
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Greg Gabriel puts forth an interesting argument. http://www.nationalf...-the-draft.html. If the season continues to be postponed, it may effect the QBs draft position.

None of the quarterbacks in this class played in a predominantly pro-style offense in college. Clubs would have used the offseason program and the OTA's to work on the mechanics of the rookies and to give them time to learn their offenses. Without that valuable instruction period, how much value will a rookie quarterback have to a club? Their rookie years could be a wash, and if a club has a choice to draft a quarterback who won't play versus a player who will give them some production they may choose the latter.
As well, I'm uncertain when the rookie wage will go into effect. What happens if doesn't go into effect until next year? Can teams justify reaching for a top 10 QB when they could get similar talent next year with less of a long term financial commitment? Some people were calling out Luck for staying in school. I don't recall many people calling Gabbert and Newton for being greedy and stupid for coming out early. That might change.
I don't see how they could be called stupid for coming out this year. They likely wouldn't fall out of the 1st round. In 2009, Freeman got 36 million over 5 years as the 17th pick. That is far more than the 19 million (the number that has been tossed out) the overall #1 pick would receive in the controlled rookie scale.
 
Greg Gabriel puts forth an interesting argument. http://www.nationalf...-the-draft.html. If the season continues to be postponed, it may effect the QBs draft position.

None of the quarterbacks in this class played in a predominantly pro-style offense in college. Clubs would have used the offseason program and the OTA's to work on the mechanics of the rookies and to give them time to learn their offenses. Without that valuable instruction period, how much value will a rookie quarterback have to a club? Their rookie years could be a wash, and if a club has a choice to draft a quarterback who won't play versus a player who will give them some production they may choose the latter.
As well, I'm uncertain when the rookie wage will go into effect. What happens if doesn't go into effect until next year? Can teams justify reaching for a top 10 QB when they could get similar talent next year with less of a long term financial commitment? Some people were calling out Luck for staying in school. I don't recall many people calling Gabbert and Newton for being greedy and stupid for coming out early. That might change.
I don't see how they could be called stupid for coming out this year. They likely wouldn't fall out of the 1st round. In 2009, Freeman got 36 million over 5 years as the 17th pick. That is far more than the 19 million (the number that has been tossed out) the overall #1 pick would receive in the controlled rookie scale.
It shouldn't really be all about the money but maximizing your chance to be a starter in the NFL. If these guys don't start or properly train due to lockout, they will have to shake the rust off and be prepared to be beat whoever the team brings in 2012.
 
While Clayborn probably fits the 3-4 pretty well....the Steelers under the Colbert/Tomlin watch ADORE drafting underclassmen(Tomlin stated something once about how he feels it 'maximizes their chances at development by getting players younger', or somesuch, and apparently Colbert agrees with him). They almost never start rookies unless forced, so it appears they are very comfortable selecting Juniors and "redshirting" them. Plus, they have "drafted for need" with their #1s during Tomlin's tenure too, whether they espouse otherwise or not(They vehemently stick to the "We will draft the BPA" line, but they will totally draft for need unless a major reach is required). They needed a C a last year, so they took a C. Needed a DL the year before, took a DE. Needed a LB two years before that, took a LB(and then another in round 2). Only real "BPA" they've drafted in the first in Tomlin's time in Pitty has been Mendenhall(an underclassmen himself, FWIW).In this scenario, with guys like Harris or Williams on the board, I'd wager they'd draft a CB. They need a #2 CB(#1 if Taylor goes elsewhere) badly. With two highly regarded underclassmen available at their pick in your mock, were I betting on how they'd roll I'd be sliding my chips to the "One Of Those Junior Corners" square on the table. Particularly with how deep this class is with potential 3-4 defensive lineman.
Very good points and I was thinking about giving them a corner with this pick. The reason why i didn't is they usually draft early for the line help. They want big fast bodies. I personally think Williams is very overrated and I don't think Harris is a Pittsburgh guy.Thanks for your thoughts though, especially about drafting underclassmen. It makes sense.
 
thanks for posting yours blackjacksWhy don't you have the Titans grabbing a QB? They have none. 2nd rounder?
Call me crazy but I see Matt Hasselbeck ending up there via FA and them drafting Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick in the third/fourth round.I think teams that might not be great this year would be smart to lay off some of the "less than steller" qb's available.Next year you are going to have atleast 2 STARS coming out. 1 from Standford and 1 from USC.A team like Tenn would be projected to be in the top 10 draft picks next year. Pick up Hass if he does good, great. If he flops you might get one of these 2 guys.Its a win win
 
'Blackjacks said:
thanks for posting yours blackjacksWhy don't you have the Titans grabbing a QB? They have none. 2nd rounder?
Call me crazy but I see Matt Hasselbeck ending up there via FA and them drafting Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick in the third/fourth round.I think teams that might not be great this year would be smart to lay off some of the "less than steller" qb's available.Next year you are going to have atleast 2 STARS coming out. 1 from Standford and 1 from USC.A team like Tenn would be projected to be in the top 10 draft picks next year. Pick up Hass if he does good, great. If he flops you might get one of these 2 guys.Its a win win
thanks for explaining.Due to his knowledge of personnel and influence, I think Kerry is a better fill-in than Hass but...all in all I agree with you. I think they're going to be very tempted to reach with their pick and it concerns me.
 
thanks for posting yours blackjacksWhy don't you have the Titans grabbing a QB? They have none. 2nd rounder?
Because after Gabbart and Newton there are none worth taking at their spot?
How bad of a reach do you think it is if they take Ponder or Mallet? Is it going to haunt them like Heyward-Bey?
Personally, I think Ponder will be the best qb out of this class and I think he would be very good very quickly in the Tenn offense.I don't think they would take him in the first though. If he would slide to teh 2nd (which I dont see happening) it would be a gift for the Titans.I really like Mallet. I think he is the most skilled qb out fo this class. I think if he finds the right home, with the right coach and is allowed to sit a year or two, I think he could be great. I don't think Tenn would be a good fit for him though.
 

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