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Blacklist - new NBC show (1 Viewer)
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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I actually assumed it wasn't, but based on the preview I think it is. My wife thought the same thing and while I thought they might be leaning that way, I also thought it would be really dumb for the FBI to ask about her "father" and not know exactly who he was. Red lived a normal life for a while with a family and based on the questions the FBI asked her in the beginning I think we can assume she did as well. I'm guessing that if they go that way it was a case of Red having an affair with her mom type of thing or had a girl with someone else and her dad was his friend and adopted her. Sort of like the boy in last night's episode.
I still hope it isn't the case as I think that is too easy of a story line.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I noticed that Carnival Cruise Lines (the company that stays afloat even when its ships don't) are a sponser of this show.
Only fitting considering the show has a new disaster every week.
Only fitting considering the show has a new disaster every week.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Wow. This got real bad real fast. Last couple episodes were horrible. Almost like completely different writers. Or they already ran out of ideas. Too bad. I like Spader.
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Agreed, this guy they trapped was the "most" dangerous guy in the world, but now he is retired but trying to save his illegitimate son? He had never even met the kid. It was sort of like they wanted to do this whole "real" dad story line as a setup to the big reveal about Red. The whole dad story line and husband story line are just silly to me. Somehow, the FBI has ballistics reports and pictures of a guy and they can't match it to the husband who would have been registered as staying at that hotel? Wow, great detective work. Now, we are going to find out there is a big connection with her dad and Red, which of course was completely unknown to the FBI.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
There's 3 things keeping me watching - I like Spader, the girl is cute and there's nothing good on right now.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Good call. I enjoy this show and think it is entertaining. That is what I care about. Sleepy Hollow is ridiculous too but we like watching it each week.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Well I guess that answers that. She is his daughter.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I've never seen the show. I just dropped in to see if that johnjohn dude was raising hell about the racist title of the show.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Why are you boycotting the Olympics?
As to the boycott it's about the Russian anti-gay laws that have been passed recently. I refuse to reward NBC and the IOC for their cowardice in the face of prejudice. All about a buck.
blend
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
hickory dickory dock
who is that playing the doc?
who is that playing the doc?
soothsayer
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
I caught up on the last two episodes last night.
Someone help me understand something. The scene from last week when she chased the guy out of the court building and he grabbed the guard - He's outside of the building holding a gun on the guy and everyone else has stopped on the steps behind and around her. The bad guy aims his gun up and towards the building and shoots out windows, then everyone runs TOWARDS HIM and she loses him in the crowd. Am I crazy to think that if you are Joe Public fleeing a shooting that you don't run towards the guy shooting the gun in an attempt to get away?
Someone help me understand something. The scene from last week when she chased the guy out of the court building and he grabbed the guard - He's outside of the building holding a gun on the guy and everyone else has stopped on the steps behind and around her. The bad guy aims his gun up and towards the building and shoots out windows, then everyone runs TOWARDS HIM and she loses him in the crowd. Am I crazy to think that if you are Joe Public fleeing a shooting that you don't run towards the guy shooting the gun in an attempt to get away?
Agreed, but I thought the airport was worse. How slow is the security response at the airport? They see him in the airport, tell someone to contact TSA and then drive all the way to the airport and not a single security officer has apprehended the guy? When they drove up to the tarmac no less, the officers looked like they were on a coffee break. Then, the guy walks out of the airport with no problem? Man, this FBI is about as incompetent as the FBI in The Following and they were tricked by people hiding behind chain linked fences.
Also, the guy wants the hard drive to print money and decides to blow up the $500M in cash to get the hard drive with which he has nothing until he gets the paper and ink? It almost reminded me of some of the 24 logic where they would go from trying to start meltdowns at nuclear power plants, but those were just diversions for another plot. Destroy the $500M, then we will print our own money. I figure with the paper costs, ink costs and laundry detergent, we should break even in 5 years. That's the magic plan.
Last question, does the FBI not care at all that Red is laundering billions and now has a hard drive that could cripple the economy? Pretty sure they cared when General Ludd had it, but I guess not, let's sit on the swings.
It is mindless entertainment at this point, but pretty disappointing in terms of realism that it seemed like it might have. Kind of reminds me of Boston Public where every kind of school tragedy/disaster happened at one school in one semester.
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bigbottom
Footballguy
The General Ludd guy was not interested in printing money. He wanted the US to print money using his forgery, which would then supposedly cripple the U.S. economy. He was a true believer.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I think it may have been the same person who was killed by the Stewmaker (Red took a picture out of the Stewmaker's photo album).
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Huh? I didn't get that at all. How would his forgery do that? Also, that suggestion goes down an even more ridiculous rabbit hole that Ludd would have had to know everything about it to produce a forgery. In which case, he could have just planted a program alah Office Space. The only reasonable scenario is that he had the "plates" so to speak to produce as much counterfeit money as he wanted to cripple the economy because the counterfeits would be perfect.
That said, I don't get the whole hard drive delivery anyway. They said that normally they send out money via plane, but that because of the plane groundings they would deliver it via trucks. Why would they deliver a hard drive with the next designs of US currency with that money? Why would that ever leave the source of where the money is printed and go to a place where the printed money is delivered?
Again, it was just poorly conceived and that is usually the case when you go from he wants to blow up a plane to kill executives to he really wanted to ground planes to take delivery of $500M to he really wanted to obtain a hard drive with the specs to produce counterfeit money.
Jayrok
Footballguy
I thought it was the number he received in the envelope a few episodes back, which could possibly be the same woman in the photo. My guess it is his wife, Lizzy's mother?
bigbottom
Footballguy
They explained the plan pretty clearly in the dialogue.Yeah, I agree that this made no sense.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Could be. Has Lizzy said anything about waht happened to her mother (or what she thinks happened)?
Jayrok
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
I apologize for the spoiler. I really should have tagged that. I guess I figured everyone had already watched but I use Hulu and should know better. I'll go back and fix it.
As to the boycott it's about the Russian anti-gay laws that have been passed recently. I refuse to reward NBC and the IOC for their cowardice in the face of prejudice. All about a buck.
As to the boycott it's about the Russian anti-gay laws that have been passed recently. I refuse to reward NBC and the IOC for their cowardice in the face of prejudice. All about a buck.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I for one like "the new bad guy every week" schtick. Better than those shows where they drag a storyline across an entire season.
I'll have to watch that again, because I definitely missed that. That said, him leaving a forgery makes no sense at all. Red took the hard drive to print money, so I can see that value to it and I can see perfect counterfeits causing economic issues. I just don't get how he could plant a bad hard drive (the FBI figured it out in about an hour and they didn't design the currency) that would have caused economic issues. I may have missed what they said about it since I was working while watching, but I definitely thought this episode was the worst so far in terms of realism, both the airport and the hard drive.
Yeah, I agree that this made no sense.
bigbottom
Footballguy
It was covered in the conversation between Red and bad guy at the airstrip. But you're right, the FBI figured out it was a forgery, so the plan was stupid to begin with.
bigbottom
Footballguy
The wonders of Mobile Hulu:
Red: You know, Mr. Wolf, I admire your commitment. Others may doubt you, may think your revolutionary talk is just that. Talk, to cover your greed. But I think not. You really do want this country's financial system to fail. And if I'm not mistaken, you've come up with an ingenious way to make that happen.
Wolf: Who are you?
Red: No doubt the Feds are congratulating themselves this very minute for recovering the blueprint they assume is real, but you and I know it's not. It's a fake.
Wolf: How do you know that?
Red: You swapped the drives. Gave the Feds a counterfeit. If the Mint uses it, billions of dollars of counterfeit currency will be circulating, bankrupting this country.
Wolf: And you're going to, what, stop me? Turn me in?
Red: [laughs] I'm going to rob you. Because unlike you, I happen to believe in capitalism. I like money. I like the lifestyle it affords me. I like the things that happen when you give it away.
Wolf: Who are you?
Red: No doubt the Feds are congratulating themselves this very minute for recovering the blueprint they assume is real, but you and I know it's not. It's a fake.
Wolf: How do you know that?
Red: You swapped the drives. Gave the Feds a counterfeit. If the Mint uses it, billions of dollars of counterfeit currency will be circulating, bankrupting this country.
Wolf: And you're going to, what, stop me? Turn me in?
Red: [laughs] I'm going to rob you. Because unlike you, I happen to believe in capitalism. I like money. I like the lifestyle it affords me. I like the things that happen when you give it away.
Statorama
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
I agree as well. Though the latest episode was a bit different because "General Ludd" wasn't on the Blacklist. Not sure why there was a number next to the name at the end of the title sequence. I always assumed those were references to the Blacklist.
NCCommish
Footballguy
No worries. It's my fault for coming into the thread before watching the episode. That said, I'm not 100% sure you're correct. Still some ambiguity there.
When you add what was said in the room to the pretty pointed remarks he made to the husband about Lizzys father always protecting her, which I took as a veiled warning, it seems like all it could be.
bigbottom
Footballguy
NCCommish said:
Maybe but it seemed pretty straightforward to me.
When you add what was said in the room to the pretty pointed remarks he made to the husband about Lizzys father always protecting her, which I took as a veiled warning, it seems like all it could be.
When you add what was said in the room to the pretty pointed remarks he made to the husband about Lizzys father always protecting her, which I took as a veiled warning, it seems like all it could be.
You're right. I misheard the conversation with Tom. I thought Red said "you'll" always be there, referring to Tom. But I just watched it again, and he said "he'll" always be there, referring to her father.
Definitely missed that. That said, it was obviously easy to realize it was a fake, no plausible explanation for this guy to be able to make a perfect forgery. It probably looked like this. LINKbigbottom said:
That said, I guess I still don't get the counterfeit part of it. How much currency really could get out there to "bankrupt" the country? Also, can anything be deemed counterfeit if it is printed by the Mint? I mean, if the hard drive says to use green crayon, are they going to implement that?
Me too. I just haven't liked the last two episodes as much because the "bad guys" were superfluous and just background stories to the who is her father story line. They were both pretty weak characters versus a guy like the stew maker. Even last week, they chose a bad guy who was trying to save his son, which obviously was a parallel to Red helping Lizzie.Statorama said:
NCCommish
Footballguy
Maybe the bad guy we meet in the next episode. I am wondering if this will be the nemesis we heard about in the show where they saved the NSA guy,
NCCommish
Footballguy
You're right. I misheard the conversation with Tom. I thought Red said "you'll" always be there, referring to Tom. But I just watched it again, and he said "he'll" always be there, referring to her father.
Could still be a red herring but they are sure working it.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I don't get how having the mint print money off another plate would cause economic disaster. Whatever the mint printed would be the real money
skol asylum
Footballguy
Uncle Andy will always just be Uncle Andy to me.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
No show for the voice????
#### YOU NBC.
#### YOU NBC.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I'm sorry, this show is turrible, just turrible.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
i love it
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Great start to the show tonight.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Really surprised they let those two get wasted.
