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Anybody else suffering through this? We're about a week with what they're saying is the worst air quality in the world with no real sign it'll let up. For the last couple years it's come and gone, but it's gotten progressively worse. 150-200 aqi everyday this week is pretty miserable. Summers in the upper great lakes are short so losing the nicest days of the year to air pollution is depressing.
 
Anybody else suffering through this? We're about a week with what they're saying is the worst air quality in the world with no real sign it'll let up. For the last couple years it's come and gone, but it's gotten progressively worse. 150-200 aqi everyday this week is pretty miserable. Summers in the upper great lakes are short so losing the nicest days of the year to air pollution is depressing.
Yep.

You are right about the nice days being compromised by this. Wait all winter for the sun and now this. Major bummer.
 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

I’ve still been going outside and doing normal stuff. But I can sure feel it. Been sluggish all week. Breathing is a little harder.

I imagine those with asthma and other breathing issues are having a hard time. Plus up here a lot of people don’t have AC, so its tough for them.
 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

I’ve still been going outside and doing normal stuff. But I can sure feel it. Been sluggish all week. Breathing is a little harder.

I imagine those with asthma and other breathing issues are having a hard time. Plus up here a lot of people don’t have AC, so its tough for them.

Right, terrible for those that have any breathing issues.

I guess my question is a little selfish as I’m thinking about how it should affect my marathon training. I did a long run at marathon pace Friday with the AQI in the 150s. It didn’t seem to have much of an affect performance-wise but who knows. I guess I don’t understand how dangerous it might be for people who don’t have health issues.
 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

Airnow has a handy phone app to see the current air/smoke conditions all over the US and Canada, and local forecasted air quality.
 
Anybody else suffering through this? We're about a week with what they're saying is the worst air quality in the world with no real sign it'll let up. For the last couple years it's come and gone, but it's gotten progressively worse. 150-200 aqi everyday this week is pretty miserable. Summers in the upper great lakes are short so losing the nicest days of the year to air pollution is depressing.
Yeah that's brutal for you guys with such a short riding season to begin with
 
I've seen lots of mask-wearing outside here in SE WI the past week. I bike commuted most all week and expect to do so this week. I feel it for sure, but am hoping its not doing any long-term damage. I'm kind of afraid to research that question because the weather has been so perfect for riding and other outdoor activity, other than the smoke.
 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

I’ve still been going outside and doing normal stuff. But I can sure feel it. Been sluggish all week. Breathing is a little harder.

I imagine those with asthma and other breathing issues are having a hard time. Plus up here a lot of people don’t have AC, so its tough for them.
Same, it finally caught up with me today. Feeling pretty crappy and breathing feels a little off.
 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

I’ve still been going outside and doing normal stuff. But I can sure feel it. Been sluggish all week. Breathing is a little harder.

I imagine those with asthma and other breathing issues are having a hard time. Plus up here a lot of people don’t have AC, so its tough for them.

Right, terrible for those that have any breathing issues.

I guess my question is a little selfish as I’m thinking about how it should affect my marathon training. I did a long run at marathon pace Friday with the AQI in the 150s. It didn’t seem to have much of an affect performance-wise but who knows. I guess I don’t understand how dangerous it might be for people who don’t have health issues.
Been training for a bike race this coming weekend and I actually threw on an N95 for a ride to see if that was any better. It didn't really seem to make a difference.

I'm also not really noticing a decrease in ability on rides, but today I'm completely gassed. Gonna try and lay low till it clears up a bit.
 
Should a healthy person just live their life normally when it’s under 200? I use this chart:

Airnow has a handy phone app to see the current air/smoke conditions all over the US and Canada, and local forecasted air quality.
Purpleair also has an app that will show you in real time all the aqi sensors around the country. That ones been helpful too.
 
I struggled with this in June 2023 when the winds blew Canadian fire smoke right across this area for several days in a row. I ran a few days with the AQI in the upper 100s and other than seeing a light haze I didn’t really notice much, but it still made me uneasy about whether I was harming my health or not. We had two days above 450 and that was an obvious no go - all of outside smelled like a campfire and the sun was a hazy orange smudge. I was doing light work outside and was unsure if even that was a good idea.

It sucks for those affected for sure.
 
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good luck up there.. had it bad a few years ago in PA... smelled terrible and had to keep the windows closed..
 
Sucks in Detroit. My daughter flew in Sunday evening and said you couldn't see the city when she landed. That's crazy.
Like a constant haze blocking the sun.
Crazy forsure. I've never experienced anything like this. The sun is barely visible and everything is yellow.

Been this way in the UP for about 9 days straight with some of the worst air in the world. Back at the end of May we actually had an aqi of around 400 for a couple days. It's unreal and people are starting to really get affected. It looks like it might possibly clear out late tonight. Fingers crossed, this is absolute torture.
 
During covid people were making those hepa filter boxes with a fan. Anyone ever use something like that and notice any difference? I ordered stuff to make one as a hail mary to try and help keep the house air cleaner. People on Reddit are claiming it makes a difference. It's supposed to clear out with shifting winds, but i don't think it's over for the year.
 
During covid people were making those hepa filter boxes with a fan. Anyone ever use something like that and notice any difference? I ordered stuff to make one as a hail mary to try and help keep the house air cleaner. People on Reddit are claiming it makes a difference. It's supposed to clear out with shifting winds, but i don't think it's over for the year.
HEPA anything will help. This is what we have at the house, a Medify MA-25. If you jerry rig something it will help but it won't do it like one of these air cleaners will. For the cost, it's relatively cheap and while I'm not Nostradamus, these fires aren't going to go away any time soon. This is going to be more the norm than the exception for years to come unfortunately.
 
During covid people were making those hepa filter boxes with a fan. Anyone ever use something like that and notice any difference? I ordered stuff to make one as a hail mary to try and help keep the house air cleaner. People on Reddit are claiming it makes a difference. It's supposed to clear out with shifting winds, but i don't think it's over for the year.
HEPA anything will help. This is what we have at the house, a Medify MA-25. If you jerry rig something it will help but it won't do it like one of these air cleaners will. For the cost, it's relatively cheap and while I'm not Nostradamus, these fires aren't going to go away any time soon. This is going to be more the norm than the exception for years to come unfortunately.
Thanks. Price isn't so bad, maybe a few all around the house is the move. I have a pretty good one for the bedroom and it helps. Since i have the diy coming I'll put it together and see if it does much, but adding a few of these here and there seems wise.

I'm with you and think this is the new norm. Over the last couple years it's gotten progressively worse. This year takes the cake though, it's relentless up here.
 
Over the last couple years it's gotten progressively worse. This year takes the cake though, it's relentless up here.
Not trying to politicize anything but the climate patterns are changing. The Northwest is getting hotter than it every has, there is less rain than normal which causes everything to dry out which allows the chance of a random lighting strike in the middle of a tinder forest to spark up and burn for months. This is the new normal and will be for years to come. The jet stream is all over the place. Canada is a HUGE area of forest that simply can't be cleaned up appropriately to try to offset some of these fires. I was in UT last week, the Monroe Canyon Fire on the west side of the state that is largely uncontained and one to the east in CO around the Grand Canyon, the Dragon Bravo Fire that is largely uncontained as well. They won't be until it rains or they burn through the fuel out there, the areas are just too big.

If you're susceptible to smoke you should probably look at investing some money in proper HEPA air cleaners for your house or have one installed on your whole home system. It's a little bit of investment but it's well worth it if you live in a fire prone area.
 
Over the last couple years it's gotten progressively worse. This year takes the cake though, it's relentless up here.
Not trying to politicize anything but the climate patterns are changing. The Northwest is getting hotter than it every has, there is less rain than normal which causes everything to dry out which allows the chance of a random lighting strike in the middle of a tinder forest to spark up and burn for months. This is the new normal and will be for years to come. The jet stream is all over the place. Canada is a HUGE area of forest that simply can't be cleaned up appropriately to try to offset some of these fires. I was in UT last week, the Monroe Canyon Fire on the west side of the state that is largely uncontained and one to the east in CO around the Grand Canyon, the Dragon Bravo Fire that is largely uncontained as well. They won't be until it rains or they burn through the fuel out there, the areas are just too big.

If you're susceptible to smoke you should probably look at investing some money in proper HEPA air cleaners for your house or have one installed on your whole home system. It's a little bit of investment but it's well worth it if you live in a fire prone area.
Right there with you. I don't think facts should be considered political though i know they are. Ecology is in my education background and I've worked a bit in forestry in my younger days. These boreal forests are just doing what they're designed to do. So many of the evergreen types have serotinous cones that won't even open without extreme heat. The problem like you mention is that it's getting hotter and drier with less humidity excelerating the process and we're caught in the path. Forestry practices aren't practical in these vast wilderness ranges and fighting them probably isn't an option unless human life is immediately threatened. So we're in learn to live with it and adapt mode until the fuel is used up imo.

After a week I'm feeling pretty susceptible. I like your solutions, but i have a late 1800s Victorian home, which is beautiful, but no central air. Portable options seem the most realistic for the time being, or is there another better option you're aware of for this situation? It's a **** sandwich we're all going to end up taking a bite of sooner or later.
 
Portable options seem the most realistic for the time being, or is there another better option you're aware of for this situation?
Unfortunately not for your situation. You'd need a few for the type of home and you could probably get a smaller one for some of the spaces. Go out to Medify's website and see if the different sizes would work better for you. The MA-25 I listed earlier is what we have and it handles our entire first floor on a 2800 sqft house fine but it's an open layout so the air flow is good. If you're in a home with a lot of walls or individual rooms, you'd probably want a smaller unit like the MA-112 to just work in that room.

I'm not a rep for them, I bought about 8,000 of them for Sunbelt during COVID so I know they work. There are a million different suppliers of these type products so get what your comfortable with but for the cost, these units are rock solid and the replacement cost of filters won't break the bank.
 
Portable options seem the most realistic for the time being, or is there another better option you're aware of for this situation?
Unfortunately not for your situation. You'd need a few for the type of home and you could probably get a smaller one for some of the spaces. Go out to Medify's website and see if the different sizes would work better for you. The MA-25 I listed earlier is what we have and it handles our entire first floor on a 2800 sqft house fine but it's an open layout so the air flow is good. If you're in a home with a lot of walls or individual rooms, you'd probably want a smaller unit like the MA-112 to just work in that room.

I'm not a rep for them, I bought about 8,000 of them for Sunbelt during COVID so I know they work. There are a million different suppliers of these type products so get what your comfortable with but for the cost, these units are rock solid and the replacement cost of filters won't break the bank.
Thanks a bunch, that helps. Our layout is pretty open on the first floor also minus the kitchen. Bedrooms are easy, but i wasn't sure about coverage for the first floor and that rec helps a lot.
 
@beer 30 how's this one look? Since it's a wall mounted unit any concerns with that design?

 
@beer 30 how's this one look? Since it's a wall mounted unit any concerns with that design?

I don't have experience with their wall mounted units but the technology is pretty straightforward on all these air cleaners. The addition of UV is nice as well. Only detractor would be the portability if you wanted to move it around but if it's in the main room of an open floor plan, should be fine. You're doing a air change every half hour in a pretty large space so should work well.
 

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