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[snogger]

Did I miss something?

Spoiler

I thought Red admitted to being Elizabeth's father when he smothered her adopted father to death in his hospital bed a few episodes ago.

If not, then what were they talking about as the two of them were debating if Red should ever tell her the truth about her father?

Spoiler

Her father might be Alan Alda

Way to steal my thunder bub.. <_<

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Did I miss something?

Spoiler

I thought Red admitted to being Elizabeth's father when he smothered her adopted father to death in his hospital bed a few episodes ago.

If not, then what were they talking about as the two of them were debating if Red should ever tell her the truth about her father?

Spoiler

Her father might be Alan Alda

Spoiler

Way to steal my thunder bub.. <_<

Then again her father could be Trapper John.

 

[Jayrok]

Nice two part fall finale. Just caught up last night. The way Lizzy does things I'm surprised she didn't collect a blood sample from Red from the box to see if he is her biological father.

Hope they get into the husband's past in January.

I got confused or missed something when she went across the street and dialed from the apple guy's phone. It rang the asst director Harold Cooper. Does that mean Cooper is the mole, or somehow in on it? What did I miss?

Love the dialog between Red and the killer and Red and agent Ressler. Spader as Red is my favorite character on TV right now. Also love Megan Boone. Can't wait for the second half and I'm stoked that they approved season 2 already.

 

[UOFI_316]

Nice two part fall finale. Just caught up last night. The way Lizzy does things I'm surprised she didn't collect a blood sample from Red from the box to see if he is her biological father.

Hope they get into the husband's past in January.

I got confused or missed something when she went across the street and dialed from the apple guy's phone. It rang the asst director Harold Cooper. Does that mean Cooper is the mole, or somehow in on it? What did I miss?

Love the dialog between Red and the killer and Red and agent Ressler. Spader as Red is my favorite character on TV right now. Also love Megan Boone. Can't wait for the second half and I'm stoked that they approved season 2 already.

I wasn't paying that close attention, but I thought she called Cooper from her phone like she was going to call in the FBI to clear it, then had second thoughts and decided to call the Dr.

 

[snogger]

Nice two part fall finale. Just caught up last night. The way Lizzy does things I'm surprised she didn't collect a blood sample from Red from the box to see if he is her biological father.

Hope they get into the husband's past in January.

I got confused or missed something when she went across the street and dialed from the apple guy's phone. It rang the asst director Harold Cooper. Does that mean Cooper is the mole, or somehow in on it? What did I miss?

Love the dialog between Red and the killer and Red and agent Ressler. Spader as Red is my favorite character on TV right now. Also love Megan Boone. Can't wait for the second half and I'm stoked that they approved season 2 already.

I wasn't paying that close attention, but I thought she called Cooper from her phone like she was going to call in the FBI to clear it, then had second thoughts and decided to call the Dr.

That's how I remember it.. Her phone rang and it was "Mr. Kaplan".. She ignored it and called the FBI, thought better, hung up and redialed "Mr. Kaplan" ..

 

[Jayrok]

Nice two part fall finale. Just caught up last night. The way Lizzy does things I'm surprised she didn't collect a blood sample from Red from the box to see if he is her biological father.

Hope they get into the husband's past in January.

I got confused or missed something when she went across the street and dialed from the apple guy's phone. It rang the asst director Harold Cooper. Does that mean Cooper is the mole, or somehow in on it? What did I miss?

Love the dialog between Red and the killer and Red and agent Ressler. Spader as Red is my favorite character on TV right now. Also love Megan Boone. Can't wait for the second half and I'm stoked that they approved season 2 already.

I wasn't paying that close attention, but I thought she called Cooper from her phone like she was going to call in the FBI to clear it, then had second thoughts and decided to call the Dr.

I thought she just dialed the last number the phone called and realized it was Cooper so she hung up and then called the cleaner Red recommended. She knew that phone was used to call the mole in the bldg Red was in. Maybe I'm confused.

 

[Jayrok]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

 

[blend]

Nice two part fall finale. Just caught up last night. The way Lizzy does things I'm surprised she didn't collect a blood sample from Red from the box to see if he is her biological father.

Hope they get into the husband's past in January.

I got confused or missed something when she went across the street and dialed from the apple guy's phone. It rang the asst director Harold Cooper. Does that mean Cooper is the mole, or somehow in on it? What did I miss?

Love the dialog between Red and the killer and Red and agent Ressler. Spader as Red is my favorite character on TV right now. Also love Megan Boone. Can't wait for the second half and I'm stoked that they approved season 2 already.

I wasn't paying that close attention, but I thought she called Cooper from her phone like she was going to call in the FBI to clear it, then had second thoughts and decided to call the Dr.

I thought she just dialed the last number the phone called and realized it was Cooper so she hung up and then called the cleaner Red recommended. She knew that phone was used to call the mole in the bldg Red was in. Maybe I'm confused.

That's what I thought too

 

[snogger]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

 

[snogger]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

 

[Mjolnirs]

Nice two part fall finale. Just caught up last night. The way Lizzy does things I'm surprised she didn't collect a blood sample from Red from the box to see if he is her biological father.

Hope they get into the husband's past in January.

I got confused or missed something when she went across the street and dialed from the apple guy's phone. It rang the asst director Harold Cooper. Does that mean Cooper is the mole, or somehow in on it? What did I miss?

Love the dialog between Red and the killer and Red and agent Ressler. Spader as Red is my favorite character on TV right now. Also love Megan Boone. Can't wait for the second half and I'm stoked that they approved season 2 already.

I wasn't paying that close attention, but I thought she called Cooper from her phone like she was going to call in the FBI to clear it, then had second thoughts and decided to call the Dr.

I thought she dialed the last number on the phone and immediately thought the boss was the mole. A few seconds later it dawned on me that he knew it was her so it wasn't was from that phone. It was a bit confusing.I thought she just dialed the last number the phone called and realized it was Cooper so she hung up and then called the cleaner Red recommended. She knew that phone was used to call the mole in the bldg Red was in. Maybe I'm confused.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

 

[Jayrok]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

 

[Jayrok]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

He's hiding in 1989

 

[snogger]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

The only clue they had was the phone calls to the building and now that the guy watching them is dead, they have hit a Dead end.

 

[Jayrok]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

The only clue they had was the phone calls to the building and now that the guy watching them is dead, they have hit a Dead end.

So why don't they just call the numbers from his phone and see who in the FBI building answers? It doesn't make sense.

 

[Copeman]

This is a very good show, very entertaining. Spader is awesome in his role. My only complaint is that FBI guy they casted in the role. The one who was shot in the leg and in Red's "cell" with him. While he kind of has "the look" of the role, I don't think he's a very good actor. Although, the last couple episodes he has been a bit better. All in all, a very enjoyable show.

 

[Statorama]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

He's hiding in 1989

With Sayid and Ben Linus

 

[snogger]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

The only clue they had was the phone calls to the building and now that the guy watching them is dead, they have hit a Dead end.

So why don't they just call the numbers from his phone and see who in the FBI building answers? It doesn't make sense.

The guy at the building had no phone on him..

When the FBI guy called Keen he told her all the incoming phone calls to the building with the servers were made from "burner" phones.. But there was one number that was called numerous times from the building, which lead her to the building with surveillance cameras watching her house.

 

[Jayrok]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

The only clue they had was the phone calls to the building and now that the guy watching them is dead, they have hit a Dead end.

So why don't they just call the numbers from his phone and see who in the FBI building answers? It doesn't make sense.

The guy at the building had no phone on him..

When the FBI guy called Keen he told her all the incoming phone calls to the building with the servers were made from "burner" phones.. But there was one number that was called numerous times from the building, which lead her to the building with surveillance cameras watching her house.

ah.. I thought she found his cell phone on his body. Forgot about the burner phones comment. Not sure what a burner phone is, though.

 

[NCCommish]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.

After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

The only clue they had was the phone calls to the building and now that the guy watching them is dead, they have hit a Dead end.

So why don't they just call the numbers from his phone and see who in the FBI building answers? It doesn't make sense.

The guy at the building had no phone on him..

When the FBI guy called Keen he told her all the incoming phone calls to the building with the servers were made from "burner" phones.. But there was one number that was called numerous times from the building, which lead her to the building with surveillance cameras watching her house.

ah.. I thought she found his cell phone on his body. Forgot about the burner phones comment. Not sure what a burner phone is, though.

A burner phone is a phone you can get without having to register your name or any real information. Like those ones you can buy at a convenience store. You pay a fee to use them when you buy them and throw them away when you are done with them. Anonymous and disposable. There are even places that specialize in them now.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

He's hiding in 1989

With Sayid and Ben Linus

I was just going to be surprised if he found a phone in a booth that actually worked.

 

[soothsayer]

I think I need to get me a burner phone.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

He's hiding in 1989

With Sayid and Ben Linus

I was just going to be surprised if he found a phone in a booth that actually worked.

Me too. When I realized he was in a booth, I figured he was in Europe, but the pullaway shot showed that he was actually on Fifth Avenue or Madison Ave somewhere in the 50s or 60s where the bigtime shops are. First, he wasn't exactly hiding in deep cover far away, and second, I'm not sure NYC has any phone booths anymore. Dunno. Still loved the two-parter.

 

[shadyridr]

Did she dial a number or just hit the redial button? I already deleted the episode.

hmm.. You all have me questioning what i saw.. I don't pay as close attention to details like this as much as I should but I swore her phone rang with what I thought it said "Mr Kaplan", she entered the building, killed the dude, Called the director, hung up and hit the redial button for "Mr. Kaplan".. Re-watching it on NBC now, will report back

OK, it does get confusing but.. She takes her jacket off to break the window, and places the jacket under her arm and then gets attacked.After killing the watcher, she grabs the phone out of HER jacket and calls Cooper.. He even answers with "Agent Keen are you there"..

She then hangs up and dials the number for "Mr. Kaplan".

Oh.. I thought she dialed from the dead guy's phone. If Cooper said "agent Keen are you there" then that makes sense. He found out they were being watched because of the tech guy. But did they figure out who the mole was?

The only clue they had was the phone calls to the building and now that the guy watching them is dead, they have hit a Dead end.

So why don't they just call the numbers from his phone and see who in the FBI building answers? It doesn't make sense.

The guy at the building had no phone on him..When the FBI guy called Keen he told her all the incoming phone calls to the building with the servers were made from "burner" phones.. But there was one number that was called numerous times from the building, which lead her to the building with surveillance cameras watching her house.

ah.. I thought she found his cell phone on his body. Forgot about the burner phones comment. Not sure what a burner phone is, though.

guess you never watched the wire

 

[apalmer]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

He's hiding in 1989

With Sayid and Ben Linus

I was just going to be surprised if he found a phone in a booth that actually worked.

Me too. When I realized he was in a booth, I figured he was in Europe, but the pullaway shot showed that he was actually on Fifth Avenue or Madison Ave somewhere in the 50s or 60s where the bigtime shops are. First, he wasn't exactly hiding in deep cover far away, and second, I'm not sure NYC has any phone booths anymore. Dunno. Still loved the two-parter.

Plenty of phone booths in NYC in Ben Linus's current show. The machine keeps calling him at random phone booths.

 

[Billy Bats]

guess you never watched the wire

I miss Bunk. Could you imagine Red and Bunk working together? It would be non-stop sarcastic one liners.

 

[thecatch]

This is a very good show, very entertaining. Spader is awesome in his role. My only complaint is that FBI guy they casted in the role. The one who was shot in the leg and in Red's "cell" with him. While he kind of has "the look" of the role, I don't think he's a very good actor. Although, the last couple episodes he has been a bit better. All in all, a very enjoyable show.

He's terrible.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Right at the end was Red calling her from a payphone or was he just in a booth with a cell?

I think a random phone booth.

He's hiding in 1989

With Sayid and Ben Linus

I was just going to be surprised if he found a phone in a booth that actually worked.

Me too. When I realized he was in a booth, I figured he was in Europe, but the pullaway shot showed that he was actually on Fifth Avenue or Madison Ave somewhere in the 50s or 60s where the bigtime shops are. First, he wasn't exactly hiding in deep cover far away, and second, I'm not sure NYC has any phone booths anymore. Dunno. Still loved the two-parter.

Plenty of phone booths in NYC in Ben Linus's current show. The machine keeps calling him at random phone booths.

That's my favorite current network show, ahead of Arrow and this one. Phone booths and payphones are different, though. The Machine calls Harold at payphones, absolutely, but I don't know if I ever remember a booth on POI, nor have I seen one in NYC lately. Maybe a native New Yorker/current resident can shed more light.

 

[Shaft41]

So, did I follow it right that the guy who ended up being the leak doesn't even work there?

 

[bigbottom]

Red is a badass.

 

[Shaft41]

Red is a badass.

It was on full display last night. Exceptional.

 

[Shaft41]

So, did I follow it right that the guy who ended up being the leak doesn't even work there?

I don't think we know who the leak is yet.

The way Red was taking care of business in the first half of the episode, I thought we were going to get some resolution to some of the questions. But it turns out we don't know much more than we did before. Being a teacher, I love how Tom can blow off work at a moment's notice to fly out to other states for job interviews.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.

If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

So, did I follow it right that the guy who ended up being the leak doesn't even work there?

I don't think we know who the leak is yet.

The way Red was taking care of business in the first half of the episode, I thought we were going to get some resolution to some of the questions. But it turns out we don't know much more than we did before. Being a teacher, I love how Tom can blow off work at a moment's notice to fly out to other states for job interviews.

I deleted my post after I realized there was a new episode last night that I haven't watched yet.

 

[Billy Bats]

Red is a badass.

It was on full display last night. Exceptional.

"Now Janice, if you don't stop your yammering I'm going to have to put you in the closet."

 

[Shaft41]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.

If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

Great post. About halfway through, I turned to my wife, and commented about how we find ourselves rooting for and liking this guy who has just killed as many people as the serial killers he's helping the FBI hunt down. It was a pretty tough episode to watch. They get some great creepy actors to play the Blacklisters. Frank Whaley was outstanding as the Good Samaritan.

 

[Beef Ravioli]

Who was the guy that he offed at the very end of the show? What was his connection to Red? I was distracted with some other stuff at the end of the show and did not follow that part very well.

 

[Aerial Assault]

So, did I follow it right that the guy who ended up being the leak doesn't even work there?

I don't think we know who the leak is yet.

The way Red was taking care of business in the first half of the episode, I thought we were going to get some resolution to some of the questions. But it turns out we don't know much more than we did before. Being a teacher, I love how Tom can blow off work at a moment's notice to fly out to other states for job interviews.

I deleted my post after I realized there was a new episode last night that I haven't watched yet.

Oops, don't read my novel, then. Sorry.

 

[Shaft41]

Red is a badass.

It was on full display last night. Exceptional.

"Now Janice, if you don't stop your yammering I'm going to have to put you in the closet."

"I do love a good stroganoff."

 

[Phil Elliott]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.

If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

Great post. About halfway through, I turned to my wife, and commented about how we find ourselves rooting for and liking this guy who has just killed as many people as the serial killers he's helping the FBI hunt down. It was a pretty tough episode to watch. They get some great creepy actors to play the Blacklisters. Frank Whaley was outstanding as the Good Samaritan.

I actually turned it off at the beginning when the lung was being punctured. I enjoy the story of the show and the characters, but I have been on the fence on the level of graphic depictions all season. I will probably go back and watch it this week sometime but think they are going too far on the violence depicted. I realize the blacklist is the baddest of the bad, but I think they could stil ltell the story if they backed of of the graphic details a little bit. I wonder if Red is the final name on the blacklist?

 

[Aerial Assault]

Who was the guy that he offed at the very end of the show? What was his connection to Red? I was distracted with some other stuff at the end of the show and did not follow that part very well.

That was Red's seldom-seen assistant, Grey, but perhaps Newton was his real name. He was the one who dropped Red off at the federal building in the pilot after saying "It must feel good to be home, sir" or something to that effect. He was also in the episode (at Red's apartment) where they were after the messenger who couldn't feel pain ("The Courier"). He also played Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad.

 

[Billy Bats]

Who was the guy that he offed at the very end of the show? What was his connection to Red? I was distracted with some other stuff at the end of the show and did not follow that part very well.

That was Red's seldom-seen assistant, Grey, but perhaps Newton was his real name. He was the one who dropped Red off at the federal building in the pilot after saying "It must feel good to be home, sir" or something to that effect. He was also in the episode (at Red's apartment) where they were after the messenger who couldn't feel pain ("The Courier"). He also played Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad.

Wow, good memory and thanks for posting that info. Maybe I'm not paying close enough attention to details, but I wasn't 100% sure who he was either. There's a lot to keep track of in this show.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Who was the guy that he offed at the very end of the show? What was his connection to Red? I was distracted with some other stuff at the end of the show and did not follow that part very well.

That was Red's seldom-seen assistant, Grey, but perhaps Newton was his real name. He was the one who dropped Red off at the federal building in the pilot after saying "It must feel good to be home, sir" or something to that effect. He was also in the episode (at Red's apartment) where they were after the messenger who couldn't feel pain ("The Courier"). He also played Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad.

Wow, good memory and thanks for posting that info. Maybe I'm not paying close enough attention to details, but I wasn't 100% sure who he was either. There's a lot to keep track of in this show.

You're very welcome GB. I have some weird really selective halfass photographic memory, where if something's important to me, I'll remember close to everything about it. But it works best with TV shows and movies, so, yeah, not really impressive or all that useful. You're right; there is a ton to keep track of. I also like how they don't explain everything to the audience; I loved 24 but it was terrible in assuming its viewers needed everything laid out about every ten minutes. Just one example. This show is the polar opposite and has clearly learned from cable dramas that the audience can follow along without clunky exposition in dialogue and such.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Frank Whaley does play the creepy dude as well as anybody.

 

[bigbottom]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.

If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

What info was it that the mole revealed? I figured Newton was the mole because, as Red's assistant, he was in the know. Given that the CIA lady (or whoever she is) wouldn't give Red's identity to Alda at the end of the show, it doesn't seem like he'd be privy to their internal intel through standard channels.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Who was the guy that he offed at the very end of the show? What was his connection to Red? I was distracted with some other stuff at the end of the show and did not follow that part very well.

That was Red's seldom-seen assistant, Grey, but perhaps Newton was his real name. He was the one who dropped Red off at the federal building in the pilot after saying "It must feel good to be home, sir" or something to that effect. He was also in the episode (at Red's apartment) where they were after the messenger who couldn't feel pain ("The Courier"). He also played Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad.

Skinny Pete, nice catch, he looked different enough I didn't recognize him, but can totally see it after you pointed it out.As to Red offing everybody, they were part of a conspiracy that got many people dead. The med dude monitoring vitals while he was getting tortured isn't exactly a sympathetic character. And his financial adviser (the Asian woman) was murdered, so it was personal. I think Red showed a lot of restraint?

Great show, my favorite new one (there had been a vacuum with 24, Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Heroes dropping out, and some new ones that were quickly bounced like the Event, Touch, etc.). Currently in the rotation are Blacklist, Castle, Elementary and Hawaii 5-0, and I got caught up on Hannibal after it was aired through Netflix, I think season two begins soon? Another extremely dark subject matter and at times graphic content show, but I found compelling because of outstanding acting and writing.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

What info was it that the mole revealed? I figured Newton was the mole because, as Red's assistant, he was in the know. Given that the CIA lady (or whoever she is) wouldn't give Red's identity to Alda at the end of the show, it doesn't seem like he'd be privy to their internal intel through standard channels.

That's very possible about Newton. I think the mole gave up the blacksite location for sure, and security protocols and details that allowed Garrick to infiltrate successfully. However, it doesn't seem likely to me that Red would have known all that, or, if he did, that he would have shared it with Newton/Grey. Just not Red's style. That's why I figured that Alda was involved, and that at the end, he was just playing his non-covert part (whatever that is; based on him saying he had to testify before Congress I'm going with Director of National Intelligence) by feigning ignorance to Dianne/Jane Alexander. Who I think is the FBI's deputy or assistant director for counterintelligence; I'm pretty sure she's Cooper's line superior and thus not in the CIA.

 

[Beef Ravioli]

Who was the guy that he offed at the very end of the show? What was his connection to Red? I was distracted with some other stuff at the end of the show and did not follow that part very well.

That was Red's seldom-seen assistant, Grey, but perhaps Newton was his real name. He was the one who dropped Red off at the federal building in the pilot after saying "It must feel good to be home, sir" or something to that effect. He was also in the episode (at Red's apartment) where they were after the messenger who couldn't feel pain ("The Courier"). He also played Skinny Pete on Breaking Bad.

Thanks!