Blacklist - new NBC show (2 Viewers)

[Vike Me]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.

If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

Great post. About halfway through, I turned to my wife, and commented about how we find ourselves rooting for and liking this guy who has just killed as many people as the serial killers he's helping the FBI hunt down. It was a pretty tough episode to watch. They get some great creepy actors to play the Blacklisters. Frank Whaley was outstanding as the Good Samaritan.

I actually turned it off at the beginning when the lung was being punctured. I enjoy the story of the show and the characters, but I have been on the fence on the level of graphic depictions all season. I will probably go back and watch it this week sometime but think they are going too far on the violence depicted. I realize the blacklist is the baddest of the bad, but I think they could stil ltell the story if they backed of of the graphic details a little bit. I wonder if Red is the final name on the blacklist?

I got the same feeling as soon as the torture porn started but once you find out why he's doing it you start to understand. It doesn't "excuse" it but it makes it a bit more palatable.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Red is a badass.

Geez, no kidding. How did everyone feel about Red just offing everyone (except, curiously, the banker) who had anything to do with Garrick's plot to abduct him? It's totally in line with today's antihero-focused TV drama, and it didn't bother me, but I thought it was interesting that while Liz was hot on the tail of a serial killer with, I think, seven total victims, Red killed five people in the course of the episode. Juxtaposition intended, no doubt, and then you had the added layering that the Good Samaritan's vics were not good people. Pretty dark, edgy, and fascinating stuff for network TV, I thought.

If I have the mole plot right, Alan Alda (Red called him Fitch in dialogue at the end of the Garrick two-parter and the closed captioning called him "Crowley," so, yeah, Alan Alda for now) used Newton, Red's assistant, to frame Aram, who was innocent. Meanwhile Alda himself, who may be the Director of National Intelligence based on his scene last night (just guessing), was the real source of the info. Red probably knew that all along and wasn't hunting the mole, but exacting revenge. The FBI, though, doesn't know that and still thinks there's a mole. Which there is.

Boy, did NBC hit a homer with this show.

Great post. About halfway through, I turned to my wife, and commented about how we find ourselves rooting for and liking this guy who has just killed as many people as the serial killers he's helping the FBI hunt down. It was a pretty tough episode to watch. They get some great creepy actors to play the Blacklisters. Frank Whaley was outstanding as the Good Samaritan.

I actually turned it off at the beginning when the lung was being punctured. I enjoy the story of the show and the characters, but I have been on the fence on the level of graphic depictions all season. I will probably go back and watch it this week sometime but think they are going too far on the violence depicted. I realize the blacklist is the baddest of the bad, but I think they could stil ltell the story if they backed of of the graphic details a little bit. I wonder if Red is the final name on the blacklist?

I got the same feeling as soon as the torture porn started but once you find out why he's doing it you start to understand. It doesn't "excuse" it but it makes it a bit more palatable.

At first he was like the worst one yet, then when I saw his motive I almost started rooting for him, then finally I just wanted him and his crazy old hag to both die already.

 

[Spin]

Awesome episode, great start to the 2nd half of the season. This show is interesting since there was a 3 - 4 episode string where I thought it was going downhill and thought about dropping my DVR schedule. Very glad I didn't. Spader is awesome.

 

[shadyridr]

Alda isnt playing it off IMO. He really doesnt know if red is alive imo. And wow i didnt realize that was skinny pete

 

[stbugs]

Awesome episode, great start to the 2nd half of the season. This show is interesting since there was a 3 - 4 episode string where I thought it was going downhill and thought about dropping my DVR schedule. Very glad I didn't. Spader is awesome.

Agreed. I liked the start, but then it started to lose me a little when it seemed like Red was 500 steps in front of everyone. The end of the season and this episode were great.

 

[bigbottom]

Alda isnt playing it off IMO. He really doesnt know if red is alive imo. And wow i didnt realize that was skinny pete

But the FBI lady told him the assassination attempt failed.

 

[shadyridr]

Alda isnt playing it off IMO. He really doesnt know if red is alive imo. And wow i didnt realize that was skinny pete

But the FBI lady told him the assassination attempt failed.

good point. For some reason i thought she was talking about an fbi agent.

 

[Jayrok]

"Oh my God, the suspense is killing me.." BLAM.

Love the show and Spader is awesome.

 

[thecatch]

"Oh my God, the suspense is killing me.." BLAM.

Love the show and Spader is awesome.

Great line.

 

[seahawk 17]

Red just mows people down with precision. Anyone know whose ashes he was he dumping in the lake?

 

[Billy Bats]

Red just mows people down with precision. Anyone know whose ashes he was he dumping in the lake?

Luli's.

 

[Daywalker]

A bit confused.

If Alda was running Newton in all of this what was he trying to accomplish?

 

[bigbottom]

A bit confused.

If Alda was running Newton in all of this what was he trying to accomplish?

He and Red have some secret arrangement. When Red turned himself into the FBI, he was afraid that Red would reveal whatever it is they have going on. Alda used Newton to get to Red so he could interrogate him on the topic.

 

[shadyridr]

A bit confused.

If Alda was running Newton in all of this what was he trying to accomplish?

Alda is still trying to figure out what (if anything) Red told the FBI

 

[badger]

any ideas on how to get episodes 1-6? NBC app or directv on demand has 7+

 

[seahawk 17]

any ideas on how to get episodes 1-6? NBC app or directv on demand has 7+

http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/the-blacklist/videos/555487

This gives you some options.

 

[Daywalker]

A bit confused.

If Alda was running Newton in all of this what was he trying to accomplish?

He and Red have some secret arrangement. When Red turned himself into the FBI, he was afraid that Red would reveal whatever it is they have going on. Alda used Newton to get to Red so he could interrogate him on the topic.

Was their a reason they had to do the ambush at an FBI black site?

 

[bigbottom]

A bit confused.

If Alda was running Newton in all of this what was he trying to accomplish?

He and Red have some secret arrangement. When Red turned himself into the FBI, he was afraid that Red would reveal whatever it is they have going on. Alda used Newton to get to Red so he could interrogate him on the topic.

Was their a reason they had to do the ambush at an FBI black site?

Alda/Fitch told him that they did it that way so that Red would know that there was nowhere he could go where that they couldn't get to him.

 

[LinusMarr]

The show rocks!!

 

[flarkworms]

I'm enjoying the show, but finding it really hard to keep up with all of the wrinkles in the story. NBC needs to have a "post-game" show where a group of panelists dissect that night's episode. It would actually be a lot more interesting than any of the NFL post-game shows.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I'm enjoying the show, but finding it really hard to keep up with all of the wrinkles in the story. NBC needs to have a "post-game" show where a group of panelists dissect that night's episode. It would actually be a lot more interesting than any of the NFL post-game shows.

OnDemand has a 5 minute behind the scenes clip for each show that somewhat fleshes out what happened during certain scenes.

 

[Aerial Assault]

A bit confused.

If Alda was running Newton in all of this what was he trying to accomplish?

He and Red have some secret arrangement. When Red turned himself into the FBI, he was afraid that Red would reveal whatever it is they have going on. Alda used Newton to get to Red so he could interrogate him on the topic.

Was their a reason they had to do the ambush at an FBI black site?

Alda/Fitch told him that they did it that way so that Red would know that there was nowhere he could go where that they couldn't get to him.

Zactly right. Showing Red that he wasn't safe with his "new friends." The dialogue in that short scene had two major mysteries, too: Fitch (or Crowley) talking about what the "people I represent" are up to, and saying that they won't kill Red because of "what he has." Then there's the lingering question of who is "the Adversary" that Grey (back in happier times) mentioned. Could be Alda but surely Liz's father has to show up at some point. And I don't think he's Liz's father.

 

[snogger]

Really enjoyed the "clean-up" episode.. Find who caused you pain and take them out one by one.

I'm not the best at figuring out these things so I may be WAY over my head but.. I'm going with Tom as the Mole..

He has access to all the inside information a Mole could ever need. Liz isn't exactly careful with where she leaves her phone.

May have even placed the box in his own floor to get caught so he'd be brought to the "secret" location.

Might explain why Red has been doing his best to get Liz to not trust him.

Red knows there is something "not right" about him, but can't quite get to the bottom of it.

 

[BeTheMatch]

This is starting to take on a bit of a Homeland feel for me - in that I pretty much hate the main actress. If it wasn't for Spader, no way I'd still be watching. Still doubt I'll last much longer.

 

[Billy Bats]

This is starting to take on a bit of a Homeland feel for me - in that I pretty much hate the main actress. If it wasn't for Spader, no way I'd still be watching. Still doubt I'll last much longer.

Glad I'm not alone, I can't stand looking at her and her sleepy eyes.eta: and her wife is a real #####.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

 

[shadyridr]

Alot of plot holes in this last episode. They didnt immediately assume the family wasnt really the alchemists family?

Anyway, whos the chick creeping on tom?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

 

[Vike Me]

I hope the season ends with Red's hands firmly around Hipster Husband's neck.

Spoiler

(I don't even care if he is a Russian agent or not...)

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I hope the season ends with Red's hands firmly around Hipster Husband's neck.

Spoiler

(I don't even care if he is a Russian agent or not...)

I think we need to clear some time to talk about this and where your priorities lie.

 

[Billy Bats]

Anyway, whos the chick creeping on tom?

Working for Red.

 

[Daywalker]

Alot of plot holes in this last episode. They didnt immediately assume the family wasnt really the alchemists family?

That and the alchemist using his real photo on the dating site when he can evidently lure woman without doing so.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

This is starting to take on a bit of a Homeland feel for me - in that I pretty much hate the main actress. If it wasn't for Spader, no way I'd still be watching. Still doubt I'll last much longer.

Glad I'm not alone, I can't stand looking at her and her sleepy eyes.eta: and her wife is a real #####.

put me in the really struggling to like her category. The eyes bug me too.

 

[shadyridr]

Alot of plot holes in this last episode. They didnt immediately assume the family wasnt really the alchemists family?

That and the alchemist using his real photo on the dating site when he can evidently lure woman without doing so.

or the fact he was so confident the police wouldnt be on to him but then panicked when he realized the police could trace his daughters insulin pump. And he was confident despite knowing the feds were on to him earlier in the episode.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

 

[bigbottom]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

Didn't see the previews, but she's a pretty big star. Would be surprised to see her bite it.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

Didn't see the previews, but she's a pretty big star. Would be surprised to see her bite it.

That too.

 

[oso diablo]

Anyway, whos the chick creeping on tom?

Working for Red.

i missed the first 10 minutes or so. is this confirmed or speculation?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The publicity photo the girl actor sent to the bogus acting site - dead ringer for Marcia Brady.

 

[Billy Bats]

Anyway, whos the chick creeping on tom?

Working for Red.

i missed the first 10 minutes or so. is this confirmed or speculation?

It was in the previously on blacklist in the beginning, it showed Red looking her up on the Vcap program(?) on a laptop. Going off of that I'm assuming he hired her to get close to Tom.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

I never watch previews.

 

[shadyridr]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

Didn't see the previews, but she's a pretty big star. Would be surprised to see her bite it.

that indian chick is a big star? I never heard of her before

 

[BeTheMatch]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

Didn't see the previews, but she's a pretty big star. Would be surprised to see her bite it.

that indian chick is a big star? I never heard of her before

She was a main character on ER for several years.

 

[bigbottom]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

Didn't see the previews, but she's a pretty big star. Would be surprised to see her bite it.

that indian chick is a big star? I never heard of her before

Big star in comparison to the rest of the cast other than Spader and perhaps Diego Klattenhoff. Series regular on ER and a couple other short-lived TV shows, and the principal actress in Bend It Like Beckham.

 

[Vike Me]

I hope the season ends with Red's hands firmly around Hipster Husband's neck.

Spoiler

(I don't even care if he is a Russian agent or not...)

Spoiler

I think we need to clear some time to talk about this and where your priorities lie.

Sorry, he and his hipster glasses just annoy the #### out of me.

 

[bigbottom]

I hope the season ends with Red's hands firmly around Hipster Husband's neck.

Spoiler

(I don't even care if he is a Russian agent or not...)

Spoiler

I think we need to clear some time to talk about this and where your priorities lie.

Spoiler

Sorry, he and his hipster glasses just annoy the #### out of me.

The way they developed his character in the last episode, it now would make no sense for him to be an undercover agent. He was so whiny, and for really no good reason, and we saw his whiny, butthurt reaction when he was home alone after making dinner. Why would he carry on the charade when he's by himself?

Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.

 

[Vike Me]

Anyway, whos the chick creeping on tom?

dunno, but doesn't she look like Joan Cusack's more attractive cousin?

 

[Foosball God]

I like this show, but I find myself having a hard time getting over why they have a young profiler on field missions. Why the hell would the FBI send her to go capture the guy who got his death faked by The Alchemist?

 

[shadyridr]

I don't like the final bit of information we learned this week. I liked that soon to be dead person.

Not going to be dead.

Possible on this show, but it's hard to see how Reddington can be talked out of it.

Didn't you see the previews for next week's show? Seemed fairly obvious what direction they were going on that front.

Didn't see the previews, but she's a pretty big star. Would be surprised to see her bite it.

that indian chick is a big star? I never heard of her before

Big star in comparison to the rest of the cast other than Spader and perhaps Diego Klattenhoff. Series regular on ER and a couple other short-lived TV shows, and the principal actress in Bend It Like Beckham.

yet i still dont know her name