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We are using myfantasyleague.com and have blind bid waivers set up. Is the order of players taken in the waiver documented? For example:

Team 1:

Pick up Vick for $1 drop Rice

Pick up Jackson for $1 drop Rice

Team 2:

Pick up Jackson for $2 drop Sproles

Pick up Vick for $2 drop Sproles

Who gets Vick?

 
We are using myfantasyleague.com and have blind bid waivers set up. Is the order of players taken in the waiver documented? For example:Team 1: Pick up Vick for $1 drop Rice Pick up Jackson for $1 drop RiceTeam 2: Pick up Jackson for $2 drop Sproles Pick up Vick for $2 drop SprolesWho gets Vick?
Team 2 would get Jackson since they bid the most for him and it was their 1st selection. Team 1 would get Vick since he would still be available
 
If Team 2 wanted to get Vick, then he should have done this:

1st bid:

Pick up Jackson for $2, drop Sproles

Pick up Vick for $2, drop Sproles

2nd bid:

Pick up Vick for $2, drop Player X (not Sproles)

 
We are using myfantasyleague.com and have blind bid waivers set up. Is the order of players taken in the waiver documented? For example:Team 1: Pick up Vick for $1 drop Rice Pick up Jackson for $1 drop RiceTeam 2: Pick up Jackson for $2 drop Sproles Pick up Vick for $2 drop SprolesWho gets Vick?
That may have been too easy, how about:Team 1: Pick up PA for $50 drop P1 Pick up PB for $30 drop P1 Pick up PC for $100 drop P1Team 2: Pick up PC for $70 drop P5 Pick up PA for $55 drop P5Team 3: Pick up PD for $25 drop P8 Pick up PC for $71 drop P9Who gets players PA, PB, PD and PC?
 
That may have been too easy, how about:

Team 1:

Pick up PA for $50 drop P1

Pick up PB for $30 drop P1

Pick up PC for $100 drop P1

Team 2:

Pick up PC for $70 drop P5

Pick up PA for $55 drop P5

Team 3:

Pick up PD for $25 drop P8

Pick up PC for $71 drop P9

Who gets players PA, PB, PD and PC?
I don't use MFL anymore but I think the bolded will go through. Team 1 gets PA because no one else bid on PA as their first choice. Similarly, Team 2 gets PC and Team 3 gets PD because they were their first choices and no one else had either of those players as their first choice.Team 2 doesn't get PA, for example, because even though he bid more than Team 1, that bid was conditional - it only goes into effect if he can't get PC. He can get PC, so it's like that $55 bid for PA doesn't exist. If he put it in as a separate bid, then he would win PA for $55.

ETA: No one gets PB. Team 1 was the only team to put a bid on him, and that bid was conditional on whether or not he got PA. Since he got PA, that bid on PB doesn't go through. Again, if he wants them both, he has to enter them as two separate bids (I think they used to call them "rounds" for some reason).

 
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To answer your question we really need to know if you have conditional blind bids or just blind bid waivers - From the MFL website

Answer: Enter Blind Bidding Waivers

Non-Conditional Blind Bidding allows owners to enter all players that they wish to bid on in one round. To enter a Bid go to the For Owners > Waivers during your Blind Bidding Event and choose a Player to Add. Now, enter a Dollar amount and then choose a player to drop from your roster if needed to stay within your roster limits. You can continue to add all bid requests in this window and then Save your Bids when complete.

The system will then process these bids and players will be awarded based on the highest bidder.

Submit Conditional Blind Bids

Conditional blind bids are a lot like waiver request waiver moves, in that owners can enter multiple rounds of waiver moves, and prioritize their picks in each round. Each round's worth of requests is looked at, top to bottom, and the first bid that is considered valid is the one that the system will accept, ignoring future bids in that round. Here's a concrete example of how conditional blind bidding works, assuming franchises 1 and 2, and players A through Z, with a season-long blind bidding limit of $10, and no owners having any money spent on blind bidding.

Franchise Round Add Drop Bid

1 1 A Z $5

1 1 B Z $8

1 2 C Y $6

1 2 D Y $2

2 1 A X $4

2 2 C W $5

Read as English, these bids mean:

Franchise 1, in round 1, wants to acquire player A for a bid of $5, and drop player Z. If that bid cannot be done, he wants to acquire player B for a bid of $8, and drop player Z. Note that even though the bid for player B is higher than the bid for player A, the bid for player A is listed first, and therefore given higher priority.

Franchise 1, in round 2, wants to acquired player C for a bid of $6, and drop player Y. If that bid cannot be done, he wants to acquire player D for a bid of $2, and drop player Y. Franchise 2, in round 1, wants to acquire player A for a bid of $4, and drop player X. Note that this bid does not have a second-ranked bid, so if this bid does not go through, player X will remain on franchise 2's roster.

Franchise 2, in round 2, wants to acquire player C for a bid of $5, and drop player W. If that bid cannot go through, then he wants to acquire player D for a bid of $1, and drop player W.

On the process waivers page, the system will look at the bids, starting with the highest dollar amount top priority bid, and continue looking at bids until all are processed (either successfully, by doing the add/drop, or unsuccessfully, because the bid is considered invalid), and by default select the bid that it thinks should go through (or "None", if it considers all bids invalid).

 
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That may have been too easy, how about:

Team 1:

Pick up PA for $50 drop P1

Pick up PB for $30 drop P1 - Only bid on PB and ranked highest in the queue. P1 is dropped as part of this transaction

Pick up PC for $100 drop P1

Team 2:

Pick up PC for $70 drop P5

Pick up PA for $55 drop P5 - Highest bid on PA

Team 3:

Pick up PD for $25 drop P8 - Only bid on PD

Pick up PC for $71 drop P9 - Highest bid on PC that is legal. Team 1 no longer has P1 to drop so that can't be processed.

Who gets players PA, PB, PD and PC?
If you are using conditional blind bids then see Ignoratio Elenchi response above. If you do not have conditional bids then I think it would change things.FYI there is a report that the commissioner should give everyone access to under Commissioner Setup Options - Commissioner/Franchise Setup - Abilities Setup that will show all previously processed waivers and how/why the players were awarded to each team.

 
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We are using myfantasyleague.com and have blind bid waivers set up. Is the order of players taken in the waiver documented? For example:Team 1: Pick up Vick for $1 drop Rice Pick up Jackson for $1 drop RiceTeam 2: Pick up Jackson for $2 drop Sproles Pick up Vick for $2 drop SprolesWho gets Vick?
Team #2.The high bid always gets the player.ETA: In this case though, I believe Team #1 would because they both have a different player slotted as #1. And team #2 would have already picked up Jackson and dropped Sproles.BUT, if you can get more than one player during the Blind Bidding Waivers, the system may give both players to Team #2 and make Team #2 drop another player.
 
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We are using myfantasyleague.com and have blind bid waivers set up. Is the order of players taken in the waiver documented? For example:Team 1: Pick up Vick for $1 drop Rice Pick up Jackson for $1 drop RiceTeam 2: Pick up Jackson for $2 drop Sproles Pick up Vick for $2 drop SprolesWho gets Vick?
That may have been too easy, how about:Team 1: Pick up PA for $50 drop P1 Pick up PB for $30 drop P1 Pick up PC for $100 drop P1Team 2: Pick up PC for $70 drop P5 Pick up PA for $55 drop P5Team 3: Pick up PD for $25 drop P8 Pick up PC for $71 drop P9Who gets players PA, PB, PD and PC?
PC goes to 1PA goes to 2PD goes to 3PB is not picked up. Always should go by highest price bid by a team 1st, doesn't matter what order a team lists them in. Intention must be to pick up that player 1st otherwise why bid the most on them.
 
Always should go by highest price bid by a team 1st, doesn't matter what order a team lists them in. Intention must be to pick up that player 1st otherwise why bid the most on them.
The order definitely matters if you're making conditional bids. Say I have one open RB spot to fill on my roster. I'm trying to be sneaky and pick up BenJarvis Green-Ellis this week for $1; however, if someone else outbids me for BJGE then I want to bid $100 on the Brandon Jackson lottery (but only if BJGE is already gone). Just because I bid more on Jackson doesn't mean he's my first priority.
 
Always should go by highest price bid by a team 1st, doesn't matter what order a team lists them in. Intention must be to pick up that player 1st otherwise why bid the most on them.
The order definitely matters if you're making conditional bids. Say I have one open RB spot to fill on my roster. I'm trying to be sneaky and pick up BenJarvis Green-Ellis this week for $1; however, if someone else outbids me for BJGE then I want to bid $100 on the Brandon Jackson lottery (but only if BJGE is already gone). Just because I bid more on Jackson doesn't mean he's my first priority.
True. But do sites handle conditional bids? Would have to be processed by hand to do that won't they?
 
Always should go by highest price bid by a team 1st, doesn't matter what order a team lists them in. Intention must be to pick up that player 1st otherwise why bid the most on them.
The order definitely matters if you're making conditional bids. Say I have one open RB spot to fill on my roster. I'm trying to be sneaky and pick up BenJarvis Green-Ellis this week for $1; however, if someone else outbids me for BJGE then I want to bid $100 on the Brandon Jackson lottery (but only if BJGE is already gone). Just because I bid more on Jackson doesn't mean he's my first priority.
I'm fairly certain that MFL doesn't run that way. The software will go with the top bid 1st regardless of what order the owner put them in.Team 1:Pick up PA for $50 drop P1Pick up PB for $30 drop P1Pick up PC for $100 drop P1Team 2:Pick up PC for $70 drop P5Pick up PA for $55 drop P5Team 3:Pick up PD for $25 drop P8Pick up PC for $71 drop P9Team 1: gets PC cause that is the highest bidTeam 2: gets PA cause he was the next highest bidTeam 3: Gets PD cause he was outbid for PC by team 1 and nobody else bid on PD
 
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Always should go by highest price bid by a team 1st, doesn't matter what order a team lists them in. Intention must be to pick up that player 1st otherwise why bid the most on them.
The order definitely matters if you're making conditional bids. Say I have one open RB spot to fill on my roster. I'm trying to be sneaky and pick up BenJarvis Green-Ellis this week for $1; however, if someone else outbids me for BJGE then I want to bid $100 on the Brandon Jackson lottery (but only if BJGE is already gone). Just because I bid more on Jackson doesn't mean he's my first priority.
True. But do sites handle conditional bids? Would have to be processed by hand to do that won't they?
No, I'm sure most sites handle conditional bids. MFL definitely does.
 
This kind of stuff is why the people in my main league would never go for blind bidding. I have a hard enough time getting them to understand why they didn't get a certain player when they had waiver wire priority even though that player was his second pick up and the other guys first.

 
We are using myfantasyleague.com and have blind bid waivers set up. Is the order of players taken in the waiver documented? For example:Team 1: Pick up Vick for $1 drop Rice Pick up Jackson for $1 drop RiceTeam 2: Pick up Jackson for $2 drop Sproles Pick up Vick for $2 drop SprolesWho gets Vick?
That may have been too easy, how about:Team 1: Pick up PA for $50 drop P1 Pick up PB for $30 drop P1 Pick up PC for $100 drop P1Team 2: Pick up PC for $70 drop P5 Pick up PA for $55 drop P5Team 3: Pick up PD for $25 drop P8 Pick up PC for $71 drop P9Who gets players PA, PB, PD and PC?
You really need to specify if you are using conditional blind bidding or not... and when giving an example, you need to indicate whether players are grouped together in the same round.The above is trivial if it's conditional bidding and each player lumped all their bids together into a single round... they get the 1 player at the top of their list because no one's top choice conflicted with anyone else, and you only get a single player out of the list of bids you submit in a round.Now if you meant each of those is entered in a separate round.... I believe it looks at every round and sees who the top choice is that is still valid, and chooses the player who has the highest dollar bid. I believe earliest submitted bid is the tiebreak for choosing which player to resolve first though I'm not positive on that.So if you meant each of those bids above was submitted in a different round... It would go like this:1) Highest bid is by team 1 in his third round on PC for $100. He wins and drops player P1. All Team 1's bids are now invalid because they require dropping P1. All bids on PC are also invalid now.2) Only two rounds left have valid bids... PA for $55 by team 2 and PD for $25 by team 3. PA is awarded to Team 2.3) Only one valid bid is left, PD for $25 to team 3.
 
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What % of your cap are you guys planning on using to buy the top free agents this week???
Why was this merged? I don't feel like I will get any reponse on this inside this thread... it deserved its own thread imo.
Yeah, that's a weird merge. Two completely different topics.Although I think your post is pointlessly vague, so I'm not sure it deserves its own thread.
 
What % of your cap are you guys planning on using to buy the top free agents this week???
Why was this merged? I don't feel like I will get any reponse on this inside this thread... it deserved its own thread imo.
Yeah, that's a weird merge. Two completely different topics.Although I think your post is pointlessly vague, so I'm not sure it deserves its own thread.
Knowing how much other people are spending on guys liek Vick and Mark Clayton this week is pointless and vague? You don't see how that could be helpful to other people?
 
What % of your cap are you guys planning on using to buy the top free agents this week???
Why was this merged? I don't feel like I will get any reponse on this inside this thread... it deserved its own thread imo.
Yeah, that's a weird merge. Two completely different topics.Although I think your post is pointlessly vague, so I'm not sure it deserves its own thread.
Knowing how much other people are spending on guys liek Vick and Mark Clayton this week is pointless and vague? You don't see how that could be helpful to other people?
Yes, starting a thread asking what % of their cap people are planning to spend on "the top free agents" this week is pointlessly vague. It might be useful, for example, for a Kolb owner in a 12-team league to discuss what other Kolb owners are paying for Vick in their 12-team leagues. But a catch-all thread about what all different kinds of owners are paying for whatever players are available on the waiver wire in whatever kind of league they're in, isn't going to get you any actionable information. Sorry.
 

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