AngryPatriot
Footballguy
Well deserved albeit a sour ending. 36:4 is incredible...
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Brady wins MVP in NFL (1 Viewer)
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munchkin
Footballguy
He deserved to win (the award) and deserved to lose (the playoff game); I think most of us (including Brady) would have preferred it the other way around.
Phlash
Footballguy
You like him less than some of the guys who beat their wives and children? Or run dogfighting rings? Or allegedly rape women?Weird standards, man.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
How can Tom Brady be your least favorite player with all the thugs and criminals in this league unless you're letting jealousy choose for you?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
they should wait until after the SB to vote for MVP..clearly Rodgers was the MVP what with all the injuries and lost players he dealt with -losing Ryan Grant turned GB into a 1-dimensional offense...losing Finley hurt the passing game.
they won all post season games on the road and beat the modern day dynasty Steelers..had a tremendous SB, would have had 4+ TD's had Jones held onto a catch opening drive of 2nd half..he'd still be running if he makes that catch.Jordy Nelson dropped a few as well...
beat division rival Bears twice late, once at end of Reg season, and on the road in the Championship Game..
I understand Brady winning it, but that award should include playoff/postseason performances and if it happens, SB appearance as well..
Brady got to 14-2 and lost the Div round game.
Rodgers beat everyone. that has to count for something
they won all post season games on the road and beat the modern day dynasty Steelers..had a tremendous SB, would have had 4+ TD's had Jones held onto a catch opening drive of 2nd half..he'd still be running if he makes that catch.Jordy Nelson dropped a few as well...
beat division rival Bears twice late, once at end of Reg season, and on the road in the Championship Game..
I understand Brady winning it, but that award should include playoff/postseason performances and if it happens, SB appearance as well..
Brady got to 14-2 and lost the Div round game.
Rodgers beat everyone. that has to count for something
Cassius
Footballguy
It's a regular season award. So no, post-season should not matter.they should wait until after the SB to vote for MVP..clearly Rodgers was the MVP what with all the injuries and lost players he dealt with -losing Ryan Grant turned GB into a 1-dimensional offense...losing Finley hurt the passing game.
they won all post season games on the road and beat the modern day dynasty Steelers..had a tremendous SB, would have had 4+ TD's had Jones held onto a catch opening drive of 2nd half..he'd still be running if he makes that catch.Jordy Nelson dropped a few as well...
beat division rival Bears twice late, once at end of Reg season, and on the road in the Championship Game..
I understand Brady winning it, but that award should include playoff/postseason performances and if it happens, SB appearance as well..
Brady got to 14-2 and lost the Div round game.
Rodgers beat everyone. that has to count for something
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I believe he's suggesting it should be a full-season award.It's a regular season award. So no, post-season should not matter.they should wait until after the SB to vote for MVP..clearly Rodgers was the MVP what with all the injuries and lost players he dealt with -losing Ryan Grant turned GB into a 1-dimensional offense...losing Finley hurt the passing game.
they won all post season games on the road and beat the modern day dynasty Steelers..had a tremendous SB, would have had 4+ TD's had Jones held onto a catch opening drive of 2nd half..he'd still be running if he makes that catch.Jordy Nelson dropped a few as well...
beat division rival Bears twice late, once at end of Reg season, and on the road in the Championship Game..
I understand Brady winning it, but that award should include playoff/postseason performances and if it happens, SB appearance as well..
Brady got to 14-2 and lost the Div round game.
Rodgers beat everyone. that has to count for something
E-A-G-L-E-S
Footballguy
He said least favorite player, not person
Adebisi
Footballguy
Okay, so what is it about Brady's game that he doesn't like?
freakinback
Footballguy
They have a Susper Bowl MVP award.they should wait until after the SB to vote for MVP..clearly Rodgers was the MVP what with all the injuries and lost players he dealt with -losing Ryan Grant turned GB into a 1-dimensional offense...losing Finley hurt the passing game.
they won all post season games on the road and beat the modern day dynasty Steelers..had a tremendous SB, would have had 4+ TD's had Jones held onto a catch opening drive of 2nd half..he'd still be running if he makes that catch.Jordy Nelson dropped a few as well...
beat division rival Bears twice late, once at end of Reg season, and on the road in the Championship Game..
I understand Brady winning it, but that award should include playoff/postseason performances and if it happens, SB appearance as well..
Brady got to 14-2 and lost the Div round game.
Rodgers beat everyone. that has to count for something
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
How's this for mind-bogglign: Mike Vick got one vote in '04, preventing Manning from winning unanimously. In '07, Brett Favre stole one vote from Tom Brady (presumably the same voter who split his first-team all-pro QB ballot between Brady and Favre that season).
David Yudkin
Footballguy
What made Brady's selection interesting (well, to me at least) is that he did not have a go to big time receiver on the season. Here were all the AP NFL MVPs that were QBs and the top receiver in terms of receiving yards that season:
1990 Joe Montana SFO Jerry Rice 1502
1994 Steve Young SFO Jerry Rice 1499
1995 Brett Favre GBP Robert Brooks 1497
2007 Tom Brady NEP Randy Moss 1493
1989 Joe Montana SFO Jerry Rice 1483
1984 Dan Marino MIA Mark Clayton 1389
2001 Kurt Warner STL Torry Holt 1363
2003 Steve McNair TEN Derrick Mason 1303
1988 Boomer Esiason CIN Eddie Brown 1273
2003 Peyton Manning IND Marvin Harrison 1272
2009 Peyton Manning IND Reggie Wayne 1264
1997 Brett Favre GBP Antonio Freeman 1243
1983 Joe Theismann WAS Charlie Brown 1225
2002 Rich Gannon OAK Jerry Rice 1211
2004 Peyton Manning IND Reggie Wayne 1210
1992 Steve Young SFO Jerry Rice 1201
1999 Kurt Warner STL Isaac Bruce 1165
2008 Peyton Manning IND Reggie Wayne 1145
1976 Bert Jones BAL Roger Carr 1112 (14 game season)
1970 John Brodie SFO Gene Washington 1100 (14 game season)
1974 Ken Stabler OAK Cliff Branch 1092 (14 game season)
1981 Ken Anderson CIN Cris Collinsworth 1009
1996 Brett Favre GBP Antonio Freeman 933
1978 Terry Bradshaw PIT Lynn Swann 880
2010 Tom Brady NEP Wes Welker 848
1980 Brian Sipe CLE Dave Logan 822
1975 Fran Tarkenton MIN John Gilliam 777 (14 game season)
1987 John Elway DEN Vance Johnson 684 (strike season)
1990 Joe Montana SFO Jerry Rice 1502
1994 Steve Young SFO Jerry Rice 1499
1995 Brett Favre GBP Robert Brooks 1497
2007 Tom Brady NEP Randy Moss 1493
1989 Joe Montana SFO Jerry Rice 1483
1984 Dan Marino MIA Mark Clayton 1389
2001 Kurt Warner STL Torry Holt 1363
2003 Steve McNair TEN Derrick Mason 1303
1988 Boomer Esiason CIN Eddie Brown 1273
2003 Peyton Manning IND Marvin Harrison 1272
2009 Peyton Manning IND Reggie Wayne 1264
1997 Brett Favre GBP Antonio Freeman 1243
1983 Joe Theismann WAS Charlie Brown 1225
2002 Rich Gannon OAK Jerry Rice 1211
2004 Peyton Manning IND Reggie Wayne 1210
1992 Steve Young SFO Jerry Rice 1201
1999 Kurt Warner STL Isaac Bruce 1165
2008 Peyton Manning IND Reggie Wayne 1145
1976 Bert Jones BAL Roger Carr 1112 (14 game season)
1970 John Brodie SFO Gene Washington 1100 (14 game season)
1974 Ken Stabler OAK Cliff Branch 1092 (14 game season)
1981 Ken Anderson CIN Cris Collinsworth 1009
1996 Brett Favre GBP Antonio Freeman 933
1978 Terry Bradshaw PIT Lynn Swann 880
2010 Tom Brady NEP Wes Welker 848
1980 Brian Sipe CLE Dave Logan 822
1975 Fran Tarkenton MIN John Gilliam 777 (14 game season)
1987 John Elway DEN Vance Johnson 684 (strike season)
Adebisi
Footballguy
Did you watch much football in 2010?
Not sure why i found this funny, but i did.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
E-A-G-L-E-S said:
I'm pretty sure he meant player too.
switz
Footballguy
Stupid this was unanimous, and there were arguably other equally worthy candidates, especially Mike Vick.
The Berry Man
Footballguy
I'm shocked this is your opinion. Shocked.
Adebisi
Footballguy
The Berry Man
Footballguy
At least he seems to acknowledge that Brady was "arguably worthy."This response wasn't at all predictable.
Adebisi
Footballguy
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
By getting his team into the playoffs and eventually the Super Bowl without a good RB, with a star TE that was injured early and plenty of other injured players.I'm not saying that Brady didn't deserve the MVP, just that it shouldn't have been unanimous.
I watched a lot of both teams and Rodgers looked better to me.
I'm not a Green Bay fan either.
Is that really that hard to understand?
The Berry Man
Footballguy
So Rodgers should get MVP votes for carrying his team to a 10-6 record and a wildcard berth over another QB who had one of the most domnating statistical stretches in NFL history and lead his (inferior) team to a 14-2 record?By getting his team into the playoffs and eventually the Super Bowl without a good RB, with a star TE that was injured early and plenty of other injured players.I'm not saying that Brady didn't deserve the MVP, just that it shouldn't have been unanimous.
I watched a lot of both teams and Rodgers looked better to me.
I'm not a Green Bay fan either.
Is that really that hard to understand?
By what measure, exactly?
Yeah, that is hard to understand. Apparently none of the MVP voters, not a single one, understand it either.
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The Berry Man
Footballguy
Okay. I think the Super Bowl MVP award should be based on regular season too. Make sense?pollardsvision said:I believe he's suggesting it should be a full-season award.Cassius said:It's a regular season award. So no, post-season should not matter.Tanner9919 said:they should wait until after the SB to vote for MVP..clearly Rodgers was the MVP what with all the injuries and lost players he dealt with -losing Ryan Grant turned GB into a 1-dimensional offense...losing Finley hurt the passing game.
they won all post season games on the road and beat the modern day dynasty Steelers..had a tremendous SB, would have had 4+ TD's had Jones held onto a catch opening drive of 2nd half..he'd still be running if he makes that catch.Jordy Nelson dropped a few as well...
beat division rival Bears twice late, once at end of Reg season, and on the road in the Championship Game..
I understand Brady winning it, but that award should include playoff/postseason performances and if it happens, SB appearance as well..
Brady got to 14-2 and lost the Div round game.
Rodgers beat everyone. that has to count for something
Adebisi
Footballguy
Yes, it is hard to understand for two reasons.1, it's a regular season award. The postseason is completely irrelevant.By getting his team into the playoffs and eventually the Super Bowl without a good RB, with a star TE that was injured early and plenty of other injured players.I'm not saying that Brady didn't deserve the MVP, just that it shouldn't have been unanimous.
I watched a lot of both teams and Rodgers looked better to me.
I'm not a Green Bay fan either.
Is that really that hard to understand?
2, each voter only gets to vote once, so "it shouldn't have been unanimous" doesn't really make sense here, unless you're saying that 1 or more of the voters should not have voted for the candidate he felt was most deserving.
Devine Intervention
Footballguy
agreed that he deserved this, BUT if anyone would be giving him competition I dont think it would have been Rodgers. I believe Matt Ryan couldve been considered. MVP isnt best stats, and Ryan lead his team to a similar record and pulled out the win for his team multiple times.
Again, they got the right guy, but a decent arguement could be made for Ryan.
Again, they got the right guy, but a decent arguement could be made for Ryan.
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First of all, every person gets 3 votes.
Brady was the first person ever to get all of the 1st place ballot votes.
The way it works is, out of the 50 people with votes you write down 3 names. Most deserving, second most and third most deserving. Its weighted, so a 1st place vote is worth 3, a second 2 and a third 1. Other people got votes, but everyone thought he deserved it more than anyone else, which is the first time thats ever been unanimous.
Either way, Brady deserved it, unanimous is irrelevant there wasn't a better QB this year.
Looking for the ballot results cant find them anywhere, all I could find was the runner-up was Michael Vick.
Brady was the first person ever to get all of the 1st place ballot votes.
The way it works is, out of the 50 people with votes you write down 3 names. Most deserving, second most and third most deserving. Its weighted, so a 1st place vote is worth 3, a second 2 and a third 1. Other people got votes, but everyone thought he deserved it more than anyone else, which is the first time thats ever been unanimous.
Either way, Brady deserved it, unanimous is irrelevant there wasn't a better QB this year.
Looking for the ballot results cant find them anywhere, all I could find was the runner-up was Michael Vick.
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switz
Footballguy
I didn't say he didn't deserve to win, rather that there were other candidates that deserved at least 1 first place vote. In both Manning and Brady's TD record seasons they were not unanimous MVPs. Do you really think the gap between MVP candidates was greater this year than in those years? I do not.At least he seems to acknowledge that Brady was "arguably worthy."This response wasn't at all predictable.
