Brandon Myers (1 Viewer)

[GregR]

I'm a little disappointed. I think Myers numbers may drop off with the move. Better QB, but less opportunity.

Not so sure I agree. Martellus Bennett got 89 targets last year and went 55/626/5 on those targets. Brandon Myers got 105 targets and went 79/806/4.Thats exactly 1 target per game separating the two. Hardly enough to say Myers will see any sort of drop off in production because of his new team.

I realize 1 target per game change doesn't sound like much. But when we're talking about that in the context of players who see 5-7 targets a game, that's a pretty big change. 15-20% difference.From the information you gave, I think there's more reason to think Myers numbers drop than there is reason to think they stay the same. I'm not sure that I think he's a better receiver that is going to draw more passes. There would need to be some other change to the Giants receiving corp or offensive philosophy for me to gain optimism on him.

Do you expect Myers to get less targets than Bennett last year? That's the only reason I would have to be concerned out Myers' numbers. He's in a much better offense and shouldn't have trouble getting at least 50 catches. Even if you take out Myers' big game that still leaves him with 65/776/4 (TE 11) on 90 targets, which is better than Bennett got on the same targets last year.

I think Myers will see less targets in 2013 than in 2012. Because of that I think his numbers will drop.If you think Myers gets 90 targets and that leads to 65/776/4, then you also think his numbers are going to drop. I'm not saying I don't think Myers can get what Bennett got last year. I'm saying I don't think Myers gets what Myers got last year.

I think his catches will drop but his TDs could go up as the Giants will be in the red zone just a tad more than the Raiders were last season. He appears to have much better hands than Bennett and should carve himself out a decent role in the offense. I wouldn't be surprised if he had 70+ catches, though I'd probably peg him at around the 65 mark you have above, but maybe with a couple more TDs.

I agree TDs are the one possible bright spot. But I don't know that I'd project more than about 5 for him and would expect him to be in the 4-6 range. Which at least in PPR probably still results in his value dropping.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Now that Myers has replaced Bennett in NY, what do people think? It seems like the starting TE for the Giants is a lock for 50/600/5 - good enough for low TE1 numbers.

As an Adrien Robinson owner, I'm not happy about this move.

You should reconsider. Signing Myers to a one year deal is way better than signing Marty B to a multi-year deal and if this takes them out of the running to spend a premium pick on a TE in the draft it's even better.Robinson for all intents and purposes will be a rookie next year. Rookie TE's produce big stats extremely rarely, less than QB's, WR's and RB's. It's considered by some to be the most difficult position to adapt and Robinson is about as raw as they come. Need some patience with this one.This was a smart move by the Giants to get a one year stop gap in the likely event Robinson still has some on the job learning.I'm encouraged as a Robinson owner. If he's ready now and better than Myers he'll get playing time but chances are this upcoming season will be used to help Robinson adapt to the NFL game and groom him to be the new starter in 2014 or see if he flashes enough potential for the Giants to trust entering the 2014 season with him as the presumed starter.

I didn't realize it was just a 1 year deal. That does make me feel better.

It's a stop gap contract. And it isn't like he's the most gifted TE anyway. Robinson could be coming on later in the 2013 season a la a raw prospect by the name of Jimmy Graham.Still kills me that I laid off Jimmy Graham as a rookie thinking he was too raw and would need a year or two to grow.It's a different NFL now in that regard. Raw but talented can get on the field a lot easier now than it could even 5 years ago.

 

[massraider]

Myers is workman-like, he's just a guy. Not a bad guy, but just a guy.

His role in the offense will be a safety valve for Eli, with the occasional play action design in short yardage. That's strictly my guess, but I am guessing pass plays in this offense will go through the WRs first. He is not the specimen that Bennett is, and I cannot imagine him being a major part of the gameplan.

My book on him will be: Not really draftable, but a solid little pickup if the WRs get banged up (again).

 

[cstu]

Myers is workman-like, he's just a guy. Not a bad guy, but just a guy.His role in the offense will be a safety valve for Eli, with the occasional play action design in short yardage. That's strictly my guess, but I am guessing pass plays in this offense will go through the WRs first. He is not the specimen that Bennett is, and I cannot imagine him being a major part of the gameplan.My book on him will be: Not really draftable, but a solid little pickup if the WRs get banged up (again).

Bennett was JAG, Ballard was JAG, and Boss was JAG. What they all have in common is that they put up low TE1 numbers when they were on the field.

 

[finito]

Myers is workman-like, he's just a guy. Not a bad guy, but just a guy.His role in the offense will be a safety valve for Eli, with the occasional play action design in short yardage. That's strictly my guess, but I am guessing pass plays in this offense will go through the WRs first. He is not the specimen that Bennett is, and I cannot imagine him being a major part of the gameplan.My book on him will be: Not really draftable, but a solid little pickup if the WRs get banged up (again).

Bennett was JAG, Ballard was JAG, and Boss was JAG. What they all have in common is that they put up low TE1 numbers when they were on the field.

I like Myers over Boss/Ballard, but he lacks the athleticism of Bennett, though I think he does have better hands.

 

[mzkp54]

Now that Myers has replaced Bennett in NY, what do people think? It seems like the starting TE for the Giants is a lock for 50/600/5 - good enough for low TE1 numbers.

As an Adrien Robinson owner, I'm not happy about this move.

You should reconsider. Signing Myers to a one year deal is way better than signing Marty B to a multi-year deal and if this takes them out of the running to spend a premium pick on a TE in the draft it's even better.Robinson for all intents and purposes will be a rookie next year. Rookie TE's produce big stats extremely rarely, less than QB's, WR's and RB's. It's considered by some to be the most difficult position to adapt and Robinson is about as raw as they come. Need some patience with this one.This was a smart move by the Giants to get a one year stop gap in the likely event Robinson still has some on the job learning.I'm encouraged as a Robinson owner. If he's ready now and better than Myers he'll get playing time but chances are this upcoming season will be used to help Robinson adapt to the NFL game and groom him to be the new starter in 2014 or see if he flashes enough potential for the Giants to trust entering the 2014 season with him as the presumed starter.

I didn't realize it was just a 1 year deal. That does make me feel better.

It's a stop gap contract. And it isn't like he's the most gifted TE anyway. Robinson could be coming on later in the 2013 season a la a raw prospect by the name of Jimmy Graham.Still kills me that I laid off Jimmy Graham as a rookie thinking he was too raw and would need a year or two to grow.It's a different NFL now in that regard. Raw but talented can get on the field a lot easier now than it could even 5 years ago.

Saw this on Rotoworld:

Giants GM Jerry Reese indicated that he expects second-year TE Adrien Robinson to be a blocking tight end.Brandon Myers will be the pass catcher. Robinson, who was 6'5/269 coming out of Cincinnati, added over ten pounds during his rookie year. "The guy is 280 pounds, he ran a 4.57 at his Pro Day, and we think he can really develop into a terrific blocker," said Reese. "We’re expecting him to make a jump this season and ... give us some contributions as our big blocking tight end."

Does that change your stance at all?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Hey, you know who might just profit from all this RB turmoil in NY?

The TE.