Breakout Defenders (1 Viewer)

[Weiner Dog]

link:

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=106619

Players referenced...

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

Mike Patterson (PHI)

Tommy Kelly (OAK)

DeMarcus Ware (DAL)

Matt "The Mutt" McCoy (PHI)

Bart Scott (BALT)

Brodney Pool (CLE)

Ken Hamlin (SEA)

Dunta Robinson (HOU)

Corey Webster (NYG)

 

[RAPTURE]

I love this comment - "Scott will move to strongside linebacker. "

Scott...meaning Bart Scott.

Did Adalius Thomas get traded without me knowing it?

I do agree B. Scott will be a good player and another sleeper to keep your eyes on.

RAPTURE

 

[cracKer]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

 

[Slinger]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

Yeah I saw that. Does anyone here think that Canty is useless to have in an IDP league (such as Zealots)?It doesn't look like the Cowboys are moving back to 4-3 anytime soon.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I also like Castillo's character. When he tested posted for illegal substances prior to the draft, he mailed personal letters to each and every NFL team explaining his mistake and, more importantly, promised the mistake will not happen again. In today's NFL, character cannot be ignored.

 

[obxlegends]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I also like Castillo's character. When he tested posted for illegal substances prior to the draft, he mailed personal letters to each and every NFL team explaining his mistake and, more importantly, promised the mistake will not happen again. In today's NFL, character cannot be ignored.

Someone with "character" would not have made the mistake in the first place. More likely he saw his NFL life going down the drain and saw to make quick amends.I still like Castillo as a fantasy player this year though.

 

[Achilles]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

Mike Patterson (PHI)

Tommy Kelly (OAK)

DeMarcus Ware (DAL)

Matt "The Mutt" McCoy (PHI)

Bart Scott (BALT)

Brodney Pool (CLE)

Ken Hamlin (SEA)

Dunta Robinson (HOU)

Corey Webster (NYG)

Dan Pompei

I'm sorry, I can't stand him. Great topic though.

I consider DeMarcus Ware and Dunta Robinson as already "broke out", Bart Scott even to a lesser extent.

How about a couple of more names:

Terrence Kiel

Daryl Blackstock

 

[Tick]

Terrence Kiel

Kiel already broke out a couple of years ago, and now is circling the drain.

 

[RAPTURE]

QUOTE(Achilles @ Jul 9 2006, 10:17 AM)Terrence KielKiel already broke out a couple of years ago, and now is circling the drain.

I do like Darryl Blackstock as a sleeper - if he can win the weakside position.RAPTURE

 

[Achilles]

Terrence Kiel

Kiel already broke out a couple of years ago, and now is circling the drain.

I read that Kiel had an impressive mini camp.I can't remember the source, I think it was The Sporting News.

 

[Rozelle]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I also like Castillo's character. When he tested posted for illegal substances prior to the draft, he mailed personal letters to each and every NFL team explaining his mistake and, more importantly, promised the mistake will not happen again. In today's NFL, character cannot be ignored.

Someone with "character" would not have made the mistake in the first place. More likely he saw his NFL life going down the drain and saw to make quick amends.I still like Castillo as a fantasy player this year though.

I couldn't disagree more. Everyone makes mistakes. I have yet to see anyone who is immune. Its how one handles himself after the fact. IMO, and I don't know all the particulars, but from what I do know, it seemed like he handled it with class.

 

[Rozelle]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I'm with ya Jean, I think he will be one of those rare valuble 3-4 ends.In my league he was the 23rd ranked D-Lineman over the final 6 weeks (11-16). I like those high motor types.

 

[Achilles]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I'm with ya Jean, I think he will be one of those rare valuble 3-4 ends.In my league he was the 23rd ranked D-Lineman over the final 6 weeks (11-16). I like those high motor types.

I bet you do!

 

[houndirish]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I also like Castillo's character. When he tested posted for illegal substances prior to the draft, he mailed personal letters to each and every NFL team explaining his mistake and, more importantly, promised the mistake will not happen again. In today's NFL, character cannot be ignored.

Someone with "character" would not have made the mistake in the first place. More likely he saw his NFL life going down the drain and saw to make quick amends.I still like Castillo as a fantasy player this year though.

Sorry, but getting the soap box lecture on character from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar rings kind of hollow to me.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

I may be way over-reading the tea leaves on this one, but Luis Castillo could become one of the rare valuable 3-4 DE with starting upside in 2006.Over the last nine games of 2005, Castillo totaled a 30-6-3.5. That projects to 53-11-6. Insiders on the boards and the news rags suggested that he just missed on other sack opportunties, which suggests that early reports that he wouldn't contribute in pass rush could be unfounded. OTOH, it could be that Castillo really benefited from having Shawne Merriman and Jamal Williams around.

I'm not saying the guy's going to be a poor man's Bruce Smith, but he's certainly worthy of a roster flier for depth with upside.

I also like Castillo's character. When he tested posted for illegal substances prior to the draft, he mailed personal letters to each and every NFL team explaining his mistake and, more importantly, promised the mistake will not happen again. In today's NFL, character cannot be ignored.

Someone with "character" would not have made the mistake in the first place. More likely he saw his NFL life going down the drain and saw to make quick amends.I still like Castillo as a fantasy player this year though.

Sorry, but getting the soap box lecture on character from a guy with a Ray Lewis avatar rings kind of hollow to me.

 

[Tick]

Terrence Kiel

Kiel already broke out a couple of years ago, and now is circling the drain.

I read that Kiel had an impressive mini camp.I can't remember the source, I think it was The Sporting News.

Huh - it has been sounding to me like McCree gets one safety job and the other is a crapshoot between Jue, Kiel, and... uh... the other guy . Last I heard, nobody was even sure which safety McCree would be. If he's the SS, Kiel's on the bench. Even if he's the FS, Kiel has to beat out two other guys in an open competition.I own him and would love for him to win the job and do well, but I give him about a 40% chance of doing it.

 

[-OZ-]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

Mike Patterson (PHI)

Tommy Kelly (OAK)

DeMarcus Ware (DAL)

Matt "The Mutt" McCoy (PHI)

Bart Scott (BALT)

Brodney Pool (CLE)

Ken Hamlin (SEA)

Dunta Robinson (HOU)

Corey Webster (NYG)

Dan Pompei

I'm sorry, I can't stand him. Great topic though.

I consider DeMarcus Ware and Dunta Robinson as already "broke out", Bart Scott even to a lesser extent.

How about a couple of more names:

Terrence Kiel

Daryl Blackstock

I pretty much agree with you here, "Rebound" would be a better choice of words with Dunta. He dropped a bit in FF last year. Also, this was intended to be NFL, not FF, right? (just clarifying)I like Patterson a lot, but also his former battery-mate, Shaun Cody in Detroit.

I don't know that he's worth drafting, but keep an eye on Keyaron Fox.

 

[Slinger]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

Yeah I saw that. Does anyone here think that Canty is useless to have in an IDP league (such as Zealots)?It doesn't look like the Cowboys are moving back to 4-3 anytime soon.

Mercy bump. Thanks JeBr, houndirish

 

[Jene Bramel]

Luis Castillo (SD)

Chris Canty (DAL)

I was disappointed that the two DE's that he mentioned are both 3-4. Doesn't give us much help.

Yeah I saw that. Does anyone here think that Canty is useless to have in an IDP league (such as Zealots)?It doesn't look like the Cowboys are moving back to 4-3 anytime soon.

Mercy bump.

Cowboys won't be a 4-3 team as long as Parcells is the HC.Canty will start over Greg Ellis this year, but word is that he'll be moved inside on passing downs. IMO, he doesn't have the edge speed or array of pass rush moves to rack up sacks anyway, but moving inside won't help him either. He could project as an Orpheus Roye/Shaun Smith type run stopper if he continues to develop, but I'm not convinced he'll have that upside either.

I think I'd stay away for now and watch how he performs during the first month of the season. If you see solid tackle numbers over a 3-4 week period, he could be worthy of a roster spot in deeper leagues for depth if your scoring system values tackles over sacks.

 

[houndirish]

Canty's one of these guys who I'm high on as an NFL prospect but has little to no fantasy value. Let somebody else draft him.

 

[brakeyawself]

Any new ideas or info with this one? I'm thinking

Mia LB C. Crowder (if you can call it a breakout)

NO DB J. Bullocks

Oak LB T. Howard (yea a rook.)

Hou DB Earl

Cle DB B. Pool (even at fs eventually?)

Stl DE A. Hargrove

well, yea im not very good at this, any new players to point out here?

 

[Bob_Magaw]

the FBG IDP team has a sleepers/busts article coming which covers every team & encompasses about 100 players...