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Brees is 0-5 last 5 games when temp is under 45 degrees (1 Viewer)

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Since 2005, Drew Brees is 0-5 in games where the kickoff-time temperature is less than 45 degrees.

He carries a 79.0 passer rating in those games as well. Sunday's forecast in the nation's capital calls for temperatures in the low 40s, though Saturday's snow and rain is expected to be over by game time. The Redskins also have the NFL's No. 2 ranked pass defense, so it's not setting up for a big passing day.

Source: ESPN.com

Interesting fact about DB

 
(1) Five is an extremely small sample size.

(2) A lot of good teams play in cold weather (they're at least all away games).

(3) And the Saints weren't nearly this good when he lost all of those five games.

Don't bet the farm against the Saints. For sure.

 
That's a lot to hope for. I don't see it happening, but it would be great. What are Washington's #'s against teams like NO in cold weather? Skins have been doormats this season, I think Drew is ready to wipe his feet and make himself home.

 
ScottyFargo said:
That's a lot to hope for. I don't see it happening, but it would be great. What are Washington's #'s against teams like NO in cold weather? Skins have been doormats this season, I think Drew is ready to wipe his feet and make himself home.
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Although Washington hasn't been good, the Skins haven't been doormats per se. Only 2 of their 8 losses were by more than 1 TD, and the most points they lost by all season is 14. When you consider they have the top passing D in the league, a good run defense, they're playing at home, the Saints have a short week after perhaps the biggest regular season win in franchise history, and that Brees has historically struggled in the cold i think Washington +9.5 is the play, and if you wait til just before the game you might be able to get +10, +10.5. I'm also gonna sprinkle a little on the Redskins moneyline.
 
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awesomeness said:
ScottyFargo said:
That's a lot to hope for. I don't see it happening, but it would be great. What are Washington's #'s against teams like NO in cold weather? Skins have been doormats this season, I think Drew is ready to wipe his feet and make himself home.
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Although Washington hasn't been good, the Skins haven't been doormats per se. Only 2 of their 8 losses were by more than 1 TD, and the most points they lost by all season is 14. When you consider they have the top passing D in the league, a good run defense, they're playing at home, the Saints have a short week after perhaps the biggest regular season win in franchise history, and that Brees has historically struggled in the cold i think Washington +9.5 is the play, and if you wait til just before the game you might be able to get +10, +10.5. I'm also gonna sprinkle a little on the Redskins moneyline.
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:hifive: FAvorite play of the week for me as well :thumbup:
 
Before you bet on the 'Skins, keep one name in mind, Gregg Williams. He's pissed that he didn't get the HC job, and he's bringing an aggressive, much healthier defense against a banged up, already poor offense. Gregg Williams eliminates any chance for a letdown, he'll have them(at least the D)pumped. Add a running game, and there is no reason to bet against the Saints.

PS - the Saints don't need Brees to win by 10+, see v. Bills, Jets.

 
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I like the skins to keep it close. Short week for the Saints coming off their "Super Bowl" in possible sub-par conditions. Add in the fact that Skins have been tough on defense and are playing at home, and I can see them covering the number.

 
While I think it is an interesting fact (coupled by the responses from other posters), I just don't see this as a big issue. Much of this "weather stuff" comes from Favre who had a legendary string of wins in sub-32F weather (I believe). What made it most special was the "legend of the "Frozen Tundra" and even unique in that Favre grew up and played college ball in the South. With that said, Brees played in Indiana and last time I checked, that was not Florida. I think Brees will be fine.

 
the guy played college footballat purdue. i hardly think he's bothered by the cold.

i think its a mere coincidence.

 
harryhood said:
I like the skins to keep it close. Short week for the Saints coming off their "Super Bowl" in possible sub-par conditions. Add in the fact that Skins have been tough on defense and are playing at home, and I can see them covering the number.
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Can we stop this "their Super Bowl" nonsense. Just because the city and media hype a game, does not mean the Saints treated the game different from any other.
 
1) It is almost certain than the five teams Brees played in cold conditions were better than the Redskins.

2) Still, it's hard to ignore getting 9.5 points at home.

 
DeAngelo Hall is out for this game - when 'capping a game, you really have to look at both sides of the ball.

The Redskins have been giving up big plays in the passing game of late. Philly torched them deep both times they played (all passing TDs were from outside of the Red Zone).

So, before you bail on New Orleans and take the "vaunted Washington defense to keep this close", you might want to consider how well Brees throws the deep ball to several different guys.

Couple that with the Redskins' inability to consistently score and this should be a 31-10 or 34-13 type game for the Saints.

 
Whether or not the Saints will cover the 9.5 or whatever also comes down to the question of, how exactly are Washington going to score? As we saw last week, with Ellis and a couple of others back, even good offensive teams like the Pats aren't going to just be able to move the ball at will against them like you could a few weeks ago (e.g. Rams, Panthers). Sure, Washington's good D might temper the Saints offense a bit - to me that means they might score 25-30 instead of 35-40. So unless you think the Redskins can score 3 TDs, I don't see any reason to back them with the start here.

 
I have a feeling that although the Saints may win, the Redskins will keep it close due to the crowd and weather. Might possibly pull the upset...

 
If their ever was a trap game for NO this is it:

Coming off a BIG/Superbowl type Monday night win, their has to be some let down

As stated previously short week, Bell/PT banged up a little, and most likely no Bush

Outdoor, and first cold one, I read all the comments about his cold weather college games, but this is not a college game

No one gives the Skins a chance, but maybe with Rocky at RB, a team with nothing to lose, the Skins will come to play

Skins gave Dallas all they could handle, and don't forget what Oakland did to cinni, it can happen on any given Sunday

Just saying NO needs to come to play, and I think they will, but if they don't give a 100 percent, this could be an interesting game

I would love to see NO go 16 and 0, but in the NFL you never know

 
The Redskins only have the #2 pass D because they've played some terrible passing teams.

Adjust for strength of schedule, and Washington is just 18th against the pass.

 
To everyone who is saying the Saints will roll, you do know that the Saints barely beat the terrible Rams on the road a few weeks back, right? When you factor in the cold weather, all of the defensive players they will be missing tomorrow, and the possible letdown following last Monday's statement win, this could be the game where the Saints slip up and finally lose. Washington has been playing better lately, too.

 
Albert Haynesworth needs to play if the 'Skins are gonna have any chance. Last I checked he was a game time decision. Anyway, Brees has struggled this year when teams have gotten pressure up the middle in his face. With Haynesworth, I think the 'Skins could get consistent pressure in the middle of the line. There also wouldn't be much running room in the middle with Albert there. So, if Albert plays maybe Washington has an outside shot, but most likely their inept offense screws it up even with a herculean effort from the D.

 
Ghost Rider said:
To everyone who is saying the Saints will roll, you do know that the Saints barely beat the terrible Rams on the road a few weeks back, right? When you factor in the cold weather, all of the defensive players they will be missing tomorrow, and the possible letdown following last Monday's statement win, this could be the game where the Saints slip up and finally lose. Washington has been playing better lately, too.
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Yes, they have been playing better, but they still stink.I am starting Brees & NO DEF with confidence. Do I expect the same as last week? No.
 
Eh, the offense may sputter for a bit but I have every confidence that they'll turn it on when needed.

On the surface this may seem like a inconsequential game to the Saints, but they dropped a game in which they had a two score lead with 5 minutes to go at FedEx last year. I doubt they've forgotten that.

And as has been mentioned, Gregg Williams definitely wants a piece of the Skins.. his departure wasn't pretty.

 
Zigg said:
Before you bet on the 'Skins, keep one name in mind, Gregg Williams. He's pissed that he didn't get the HC job, and he's bringing an aggressive, much healthier defense against a banged up, already poor offense. Gregg Williams eliminates any chance for a letdown, he'll have them(at least the D)pumped. Add a running game, and there is no reason to bet against the Saints.PS - the Saints don't need Brees to win by 10+, see v. Bills, Jets.
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Excellent comment.
 
Gopher State said:
If their ever was a trap game for NO this is it:Coming off a BIG/Superbowl type Monday night win, their has to be some let downAs stated previously short week, Bell/PT banged up a little, and most likely no BushOutdoor, and first cold one, I read all the comments about his cold weather college games, but this is not a college gameNo one gives the Skins a chance, but maybe with Rocky at RB, a team with nothing to lose, the Skins will come to playSkins gave Dallas all they could handle, and don't forget what Oakland did to cinni, it can happen on any given SundayJust saying NO needs to come to play, and I think they will, but if they don't give a 100 percent, this could be an interesting gameI would love to see NO go 16 and 0, but in the NFL you never know
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How many "trap" games have the Saints had this year?Like 6 now?
 
Gopher State said:
Since 2005, Drew Brees is 0-5 in games where the kickoff-time temperature is less than 45 degrees.

He carries a 79.0 passer rating in those games as well. Sunday's forecast in the nation's capital calls for temperatures in the low 40s, though Saturday's snow and rain is expected to be over by game time. The Redskins also have the NFL's No. 2 ranked pass defense, so it's not setting up for a big passing day.

Source: ESPN.com

Interesting fact about DB
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Well, he just threw a 'perfect" game. Only the 14th since 1970, I think, or something close.People keep forgetting: the Saints' defense. The Skins inept offense will present plenty of opportunities to the Saints offense.

Also what teams was he playing for and against?

Chicago playoff game? Ok, but weather had little to do with that game.

2 games vs BUF & KC in 2002 when with the Chargers? Hardly convincing vs now.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...r00&yr=2002

What are the other two games?

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Gopher State said:
Since 2005, Drew Brees is 0-5 in games where the kickoff-time temperature is less than 45 degrees.

He carries a 79.0 passer rating in those games as well. Sunday's forecast in the nation's capital calls for temperatures in the low 40s, though Saturday's snow and rain is expected to be over by game time. The Redskins also have the NFL's No. 2 ranked pass defense, so it's not setting up for a big passing day.

Source: ESPN.com

Interesting fact about DB
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Well, he just threw a 'perfect" game. Only the 14th since 1970, I think, or something close.People keep forgetting: the Saints' defense. The Skins inept offense will present plenty of opportunities to the Saints offense.

Also what teams was he playing for and against?

Chicago playoff game? Ok, but weather had little to do with that game.

2 games vs BUF & KC in 2002 when with the Chargers? Hardly convincing vs now.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...r00&yr=2002

What are the other two games?
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Yes the Saints D who is 18th vs the pass and 19th vs the run, very impressive!
 
cahut13 said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Gopher State said:
Since 2005, Drew Brees is 0-5 in games where the kickoff-time temperature is less than 45 degrees.

He carries a 79.0 passer rating in those games as well. Sunday's forecast in the nation's capital calls for temperatures in the low 40s, though Saturday's snow and rain is expected to be over by game time. The Redskins also have the NFL's No. 2 ranked pass defense, so it's not setting up for a big passing day.

Source: ESPN.com

Interesting fact about DB
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Well, he just threw a 'perfect" game. Only the 14th since 1970, I think, or something close.People keep forgetting: the Saints' defense. The Skins inept offense will present plenty of opportunities to the Saints offense.

Also what teams was he playing for and against?

Chicago playoff game? Ok, but weather had little to do with that game.

2 games vs BUF & KC in 2002 when with the Chargers? Hardly convincing vs now.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...r00&yr=2002

What are the other two games?
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Yes the Saints D who is 18th vs the pass and 19th vs the run, very impressive!
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Where are the Saints on turnover ratio? Where are the Skins on that?= Opportunities.

 
Good point, but the Skins and the Saints have turned the ball over the same amount of times, it is because of the Saints offense that they have gotten so many picks imo. I see the redskins shutting down brees in the cold weather. We will see how it unfolds, I just think 10 points from vegas is too much in this game.

 
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Ghost Rider said:
To everyone who is saying the Saints will roll, you do know that the Saints barely beat the terrible Rams on the road a few weeks back, right? When you factor in the cold weather, all of the defensive players they will be missing tomorrow, and the possible letdown following last Monday's statement win, this could be the game where the Saints slip up and finally lose. Washington has been playing better lately, too.
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Ummm, no.Horribly inaccurate argument.
 
Jeff Pasquino said:
DeAngelo Hall is out for this game - when 'capping a game, you really have to look at both sides of the ball.The Redskins have been giving up big plays in the passing game of late. Philly torched them deep both times they played (all passing TDs were from outside of the Red Zone).So, before you bail on New Orleans and take the "vaunted Washington defense to keep this close", you might want to consider how well Brees throws the deep ball to several different guys.Couple that with the Redskins' inability to consistently score and this should be a 31-10 or 34-13 type game for the Saints.
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:goodposting:And after seeing what the Saints defense did to Tom Brady/Randy Moss/Wes Welker, does anybody expect Jason Campbell and company to do any better? Sometimes its just about who has the better football team. New Orleans in a rout.
 
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Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.

Where did the vaunted D go?

 
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harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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:bag: Book me for P.W.I.
 
Redskins cover comfortably. If Suisham doesn't miss the 28 yard field goal with 1:30 left in the game than the Redskins win, tough way to lose.

 
harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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Beatable?Short week, on the road, unfavorable playing conditions, missing lots of defensive starters, going against the #1 pass defense and what happened?We got the W.This ain't just "another team", hoss.
 
Gadabout said:
harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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Beatable?Short week, on the road, unfavorable playing conditions, missing lots of defensive starters, going against the #1 pass defense and what happened?We got the W.This ain't just "another team", hoss.
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You left out the part where they were playing the Redskins, one of the biggest jokes in the NFL, and won because that joke of a franchise can't make a 23 yard field goal with the game on the line.Saints fans on these boards make even Patriots fans seem bearable.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
Gadabout said:
harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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Beatable?Short week, on the road, unfavorable playing conditions, missing lots of defensive starters, going against the #1 pass defense and what happened?We got the W.This ain't just "another team", hoss.
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You left out the part where they were playing the Redskins, one of the biggest jokes in the NFL, and won because that joke of a franchise can't make a 23 yard field goal with the game on the line.Saints fans on these boards make even Patriots fans seem bearable.
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Despite their recent losses, the Skins were hot.They gave their all, but great teams find ways to win.
 
harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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Are you making this statement assuming the Saints will continue to be without their #1, #2, #3, #5 CBs? Of course they are beatable, but they are facing some brutal injuries and still winning.
 
Gadabout said:
Ghost Rider said:
To everyone who is saying the Saints will roll, you do know that the Saints barely beat the terrible Rams on the road a few weeks back, right? When you factor in the cold weather, all of the defensive players they will be missing tomorrow, and the possible letdown following last Monday's statement win, this could be the game where the Saints slip up and finally lose. Washington has been playing better lately, too.
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Ummm, no.Horribly inaccurate argument.
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Think so, eh? The Saints were a chip shot FG away from losing. But to their credit, they found a way to win.
 
Gadabout said:
harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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Beatable?Short week, on the road, unfavorable playing conditions, missing lots of defensive starters, going against the #1 pass defense and what happened?We got the W.This ain't just "another team", hoss.
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Sounds like they should just cancel the NFC playoffs. Ol' Rog can just deliver the trophy and spend the rest of the day in the Quarter.
 
Gadabout said:
harryhood said:
Maybe now the NO fans can pull their heads from their hind ends and see that their team is just as beatable as the next. All this "we wont loose a game" and "you cant stop us" talk made me nauseous. You are just another team, fighting for home field advantage that can loose on any day.Where did the vaunted D go?
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Beatable?Short week, on the road, unfavorable playing conditions, missing lots of defensive starters, going against the #1 pass defense and what happened?We got the W.This ain't just "another team", hoss.
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Who said the Saints were not beatable. To my knowledge every team that has won the Superbowl was beaten at least once with exception of the Dolphin team which is really starting to get kind of nervous. The game would not have been this close but due to the reasons mentioned by the poster above the road to victory was difficult but not quite as bad as the Vikings had it last night eh? The Saints just need to get healthy on defense and this discussion would be over.
 
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