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Brees Week 16 Dodds has him out of the top 12 (1 Viewer)

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I know it's the early edition but it sure seems kinda odd that Brees would be so low vs the Falcolns. He has produced steady points all year, not much of a running game lately, the Falcolns have been throw on some this year and it's in a dome.

I would have him around top 3, am I crazy?

 
I know it's the early edition but it sure seems kinda odd that Brees would be so low vs the Falcolns. He has produced steady points all year, not much of a running game lately, the Falcolns have been throw on some this year and it's in a dome.I would have him around top 3, am I crazy?
I'm starting him without question....and over Garrard who he's pegged higher.
 
I know it's the early edition but it sure seems kinda odd that Brees would be so low vs the Falcolns. He has produced steady points all year, not much of a running game lately, the Falcolns have been throw on some this year and it's in a dome.I would have him around top 3, am I crazy?
Bah humbug! Brees is money in da bank. Obviously Dodds must be drinking early now in celebration of the holidays.
 
I know it's the early edition but it sure seems kinda odd that Brees would be so low vs the Falcolns. He has produced steady points all year, not much of a running game lately, the Falcolns have been throw on some this year and it's in a dome.I would have him around top 3, am I crazy?
I'm starting him without question....and over Garrard who he's pegged higher.
The ranking naturally depends on the scoring system, but in standard FBG scoring, Brees is actually ranked behind Freeman, Garrard, Kitna, and even Tim Tebow. I think it's safe to say Brees owners wouldn't bench him for any of those guys, and they'd be nuts if they did. The only thing I can figure is rushing yards are a big plus and interceptions a big minus. I look for these rankings to move before the final ones come out.
 
Gonna guess that this version was basically spit out by his game predictor. Only reason I can come up with for Brees vs a mediocre falcons pass D being ranked lower than Joe Webb (17 proj rushing yards) vs any NFL team in my scoring.

 
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C'mon man!!! This is week 16. Don't we all know by now that the first pass projections are computer generated? Dodds will add the secret sauce later in the week, take 'em with a healthy grain of salt and relax. Brees will move up...

 
He might be banking on a low scoring affair, perhaps 20-17.
This unfortunately will happen. Note i said "will", not "will likely". This is my 8th consecutive year in the playoffs and every year I lose. I have a lot of players in that game. I'm going to say 30-28 (Atlanta win) with all 4 Saints TDs being of the rushing variety and 10 field goals for Atlanta... my opponent has Matt Bryant :thumbup:
 
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I know it's the early edition but it sure seems kinda odd that Brees would be so low vs the Falcolns. He has produced steady points all year, not much of a running game lately, the Falcolns have been throw on some this year and it's in a dome.I would have him around top 3, am I crazy?
If you know it's the early edition, I'm not sure why you're surprised. They always differ greatly in some cases with the Final Product.To be honest, I'm not 100 percent sure where or how he gets these rankings and why they differ so much. To me, having rankings that differ so greatly from what he really thinks/feels by weeks end can be more harmful than good.If I'm looking at these rankings and use them to determine who I may want for the WW, and I get that guy instead of another. Then on Thursday it's all changed and he likes another guy more than the guy I picked up on the wire but now he's gone on another team.Like 2 weeks ago he had Tom Brady at No. 17 to start the week. I and everyone knew he'd move up 7 to 10 spots easy, so I don't really understand it.Calvin Johnson is out of the top 10 at WR this week again, he was last week too initially and then moved up top 5. 100 bucks says Calvin Johnson will finish in his top 10 ranking.......but he's not there now. It's almost like you have to know how to read his initial rankings.I know people complained about not having rankings early enough last year, but honestly if they're going to change that much then they could actually do more harm than good.Yes, it's odd that Brees isn't in the top 12, which is why he won't end up there.......you know that.
 
C'mon man!!! This is week 16. Don't we all know by now that the first pass projections are computer generated? Dodds will add the secret sauce later in the week, take 'em with a healthy grain of salt and relax. Brees will move up...
Exactly and I know everyone complained last year about not having them out in time for the week but if they're not what he thinks is really going to happen for the week (at least his best guess effort this early in the week), I don't understand the value of it.
 
When the gladiators in the arena yell for red meat, you send them chicken wings to keep them occupied while you are preparing the steak.

 
I know it's the early edition but it sure seems kinda odd that Brees would be so low vs the Falcolns. He has produced steady points all year, not much of a running game lately, the Falcolns have been throw on some this year and it's in a dome.I would have him around top 3, am I crazy?
Brees is going to have a career day. Payback is a #####. Sorry Falcon fans really I am.
 
;)

Every week there's one of these threads. I thought you people were sharks.

First off, these are the early rankings, without tweaks.

Second, what does it matter what Brees' numerical ranking is???. I've yet to have one person even try to explain what the OP is thinking in these threads. It's completely illogical. Rankings are completely irrelevant. THEY DON'T MATTER. Do you get points based on where a guy finishes in the top-10 or something? Because if you don't, RANKINGS DON'T MATTER.

Look at the projections instead, people. 1 extra fantasy point would put him in the top 5. 1 less fantasy point by a QB or 2 above him would put him near the top. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? You expect these projections to be right, down to a decimal point? Brees only has to outperform the estimate by less than 5% to be where you want, or someone above him only has to score 96% of the projection to drop below him.

What makes Brees top 3 this week? Just because he's Brees he's automatically the third-best QB every week, regardless of matchup, guaranteed? DOWN TO THE DECIMAL POINT? Really?

Sharks indeed. Starting threads about decimal points. Like anyone can project that on a Tuesday, or even 10 minutes before gametime, with enough accuracy to rank the players right.

 
:shrug:

Every week there's one of these threads. I thought you people were sharks.

First off, these are the early rankings, without tweaks.

Second, what does it matter what Brees' numerical ranking is???. I've yet to have one person even try to explain what the OP is thinking in these threads. It's completely illogical. Rankings are completely irrelevant. THEY DON'T MATTER. Do you get points based on where a guy finishes in the top-10 or something? Because if you don't, RANKINGS DON'T MATTER.

Look at the projections instead, people. 1 extra fantasy point would put him in the top 5. 1 less fantasy point by a QB or 2 above him would put him near the top. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? You expect these projections to be right, down to a decimal point? Brees only has to outperform the estimate by less than 5% to be where you want, or someone above him only has to score 96% of the projection to drop below him.

What makes Brees top 3 this week? Just because he's Brees he's automatically the third-best QB every week, regardless of matchup, guaranteed? DOWN TO THE DECIMAL POINT? Really?

Sharks indeed. Starting threads about decimal points. Like anyone can project that on a Tuesday, or even 10 minutes before gametime, with enough accuracy to rank the players right.
:wall:
 
I mean, come on... the difference between Peyton Manning (or Aaron Rogers), one of the top QBs you could hope to have, and QB25... a totally unrosterable, should-be-on-the-waiver-wire QB is FOUR POINTS this week. It's all one big giant tier... how can you talk about rankings within a group so tightly bunched? What does it matter what the ranking is?

 
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:goodposting:

Every week there's one of these threads. I thought you people were sharks.

First off, these are the early rankings, without tweaks.

Second, what does it matter what Brees' numerical ranking is???. I've yet to have one person even try to explain what the OP is thinking in these threads. It's completely illogical. Rankings are completely irrelevant. THEY DON'T MATTER. Do you get points based on where a guy finishes in the top-10 or something? Because if you don't, RANKINGS DON'T MATTER.

Look at the projections instead, people. 1 extra fantasy point would put him in the top 5. 1 less fantasy point by a QB or 2 above him would put him near the top. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? You expect these projections to be right, down to a decimal point? Brees only has to outperform the estimate by less than 5% to be where you want, or someone above him only has to score 96% of the projection to drop below him.

What makes Brees top 3 this week? Just because he's Brees he's automatically the third-best QB every week, regardless of matchup, guaranteed? DOWN TO THE DECIMAL POINT? Really?

Sharks indeed. Starting threads about decimal points. Like anyone can project that on a Tuesday, or even 10 minutes before gametime, with enough accuracy to rank the players right.
chill gup
 
I took a look at my league with very basic scoring. Brees is the #2 QB on the season, but has only been top 3 twice, both times he was 3rd. Dude's consistent.

 
He might be banking on a low scoring affair, perhaps 20-17.
Oddly enough, the first meeting between the two was a low-scoring affair by New Orleans' standards (27-24), yet Brees still had his 2nd highest points total of the year in my league. There is no way in hell I'd bench him this Christmas.
 
The ranking of Brees at #12 is :goodposting:

And ranking Tebow #9 ???? :lol:

Seriously, these rankings must be a parody. I haven't trusted the rankings for other than well established players. That and getting some well thought out reasoning in the ACF.

To say thet Brees > Tebow is easy to do when it costs nothing. Big money is riding and big money goes Brees against that weak ATL secondary, with playoff seeding on the line.

 
C'mon man!!! This is week 16. Don't we all know by now that the first pass projections are computer generated? Dodds will add the secret sauce later in the week, take 'em with a healthy grain of salt and relax. Brees will move up...
:hot: Mr. Sunday NFL Countdown is right, Thursday's projections are the ones to pay attention to.
 
nevertheless, I am going to be sitting in front of the TV wayching Brees lead two of my teams to a title!

Unless I've already won it before MNF of course.

 
Philo said:
I mean, come on... the difference between Peyton Manning (or Aaron Rogers), one of the top QBs you could hope to have, and QB25... a totally unrosterable, should-be-on-the-waiver-wire QB is FOUR POINTS this week. It's all one big giant tier... how can you talk about rankings within a group so tightly bunched? What does it matter what the ranking is?
:lmao: Stop looking at the rankings and look at the projected points. When they're grouped so closely together , the ranking doesn't mean much.

The difference in standard scoring between QB12 and QB3 is 1.9 points.

 
By the weekly threads on this topic, it's nice to know that even if some of my league mates find FBG's, they still won't be smart enough to use the infomation/projections properly. They'll likely use the projections as gospel, or they'll discount them totally.

 
Philo said:
I mean, come on... the difference between Peyton Manning (or Aaron Rogers), one of the top QBs you could hope to have, and QB25... a totally unrosterable, should-be-on-the-waiver-wire QB is FOUR POINTS this week. It's all one big giant tier... how can you talk about rankings within a group so tightly bunched? What does it matter what the ranking is?
Rankings are totally pointless.They should just stop them anyway.
 
The Falcons D is underrated. They matched well against the 'Aints earlier this year and have quietly done well just about every game. Should he be out

of the Top 12 this week though? Eh, I wouldn't bet against him. The Saints will be very motivated to beat the division leaders. I expect 2-3 TDs from Brees.

 

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