Brett Favre (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Let's assume that Favre will be in the Hall of Fame, which is a LOCK.

Favre's first NFL completion went to a Hall-of-Famer.

So a Hall-of-Famer's first NFL completion was caught by a Hall-of-Famer.

Has that ever happened before? I'm thinking maybe Unitas to Berry? That's the only combo which comes to mind, and I don't even know who caught Johnny U's first completed pass.

We may need Drinen's help on this one.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Peyton Manning's first NFL completion went to Marvin Harrison -- but it was in the pre-season.

LaDainian Tomlinson's first NFL completion went to Drew Brees.

Reggie Bush has yet to complete an NFL pass.

 

[Raider Nation]

Reggie Bush has yet to complete an NFL pass.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress. I'm not sure who caught Brady's first pass, although I know I watched it live.

 

[Chase Stuart]

It's conceivable, although highly unlikely, that Warron Moon's first completion was to Earl Campbell.

 

[Raider Nation]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

 

[Borat]

I'm not sure who caught Brady's first pass, although I know I watched it live.

It was to JR Redmond. And it wasn't the game that Bledsoe went down, if that's what you were thinking of.

 

[Chase Stuart]

And I should have mentioned this one earlier: there's a good chance Joe Namath's first completion was to Don Maynard.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'm not sure who caught Brady's first pass, although I know I watched it live.

It was to JR Redmond. And it wasn't the game that Bledsoe went down, if that's what you were thinking of.

You're right. I forgot all about his 2000 action.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

Roethlisberger is on a faster HOF track than any QB outside of Dan Marino after two seasons.

 

[Borat]

I'm not sure who caught Brady's first pass, although I know I watched it live.

It was to JR Redmond. And it wasn't the game that Bledsoe went down, if that's what you were thinking of.

You're right. I forgot all about his 2000 action.

How could you possibly forget his immortal 1-3 for 6 yards performance? They play it on loop on ESPN Classic.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Trivia

What HOF QB spent his last season on the same team as a rookie HOF QB?

 

[Borat]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

Roethlisberger is on a faster HOF track than any QB outside of Dan Marino after two seasons.

X(I've always wanted to do that...)

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'm not sure who caught Brady's first pass, although I know I watched it live.

It was to JR Redmond. And it wasn't the game that Bledsoe went down, if that's what you were thinking of.

You're right. I forgot all about his 2000 action.

How could you possibly forget his immortal 1-3 for 6 yards performance? They play it on loop on ESPN Classic.

You could see how his teammates were better just because he was in the game, even then.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

Roethlisberger is on a faster HOF track than any QB outside of Dan Marino after two seasons.

X(I've always wanted to do that...)

Name one.

 

[Raider Nation]

It's conceivable, although highly unlikely, that Warron Moon's first completion was to Earl Campbell.

Highly unlikely is right. The Tyler Rose had all of 3 grabs all year (1984).BTW, look at the dreck Moon was throwing to that year. These were his WRs.

+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+| Name				 |  G |  RSH  YARD   AVG  TD  |  REC  YARD   AVG  TD |+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+| Steve Bryant		 | 14 |	0	 0   0.0   0  |   19   278  14.6   0 || Mike Holston		 | 16 |	0	 0   0.0   0  |   22   287  13.0   1 || Carl Roaches		 | 16 |	0	 0   0.0   0  |	4	69  17.2   0 || Tim Smith			| 16 |	0	 0   0.0   0  |   69  1141  16.5   4 || Herkie Walls		 | 14 |	4	20   5.0   0  |   18   291  16.2   1 |+----------------------+----+-----------------------+----------------------+

Not exactly Jeffires, Duncan, Hill & Givens.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Aikman to Irvin (not sure if it was his first completion) may one day count.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Montana to Simpson is another good one.

 

[The Jerk]

To help with this effort, a listing from the Hall of Fame website

Modern Era: Quarterbacks (23)

Troy Aikman 1989-2000

George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975

Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983

Len Dawson 1957-1975

John Elway 1983-1998

Dan Fouts 1973-1987

Otto Graham 1946-1955

Bob Griese 1967-1980

Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974

Jim Kelly 1986-1996

Bobby Layne 1948-1962

Dan Marino 1983-1999

Joe Montana 1979-1994

Warren Moon 1984-2000

Joe Namath 1965-1977

Bart Starr 1956-1971

Roger Staubach 1969-1979

Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978

Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964

Johnny Unitas 1956-1973

Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960

Bob Waterfield 1945-1952

Steve Young 1985-1999

 

[Chase Stuart]

Hard to forget about Roger Staubach: his first NFL pass may have gone to either of TWO HOFs.

 

[Raider Nation]

Trivia

What HOF QB spent his last season on the same team as a rookie HOF QB?

Johnny U/Grizzly Fouts

 

[The Jerk]

Would Otto Graham and Dante Lavelli count? They were both rookies on the Browns in the AAFC in 1946. I don't know how we'll ever be able to verify Otto Graham's first professional pass, however.

 

[Raider Nation]

Would Otto Graham and Dante Lavelli count? They were both rookies on the Browns in the AAFC in 1946. I don't know how we'll ever be able to verify Otto Graham's first professional pass, however.

It's hard enough to verify the modern-day QBs. :(

 

[The Jerk]

If Ken Stabler ever gets in, there's a possibility that he threw his first pass to Biletnikoff. Agree with Raidernation, the hard part is how to find a resource for determining these first receptions.

 

[Borat]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

Roethlisberger is on a faster HOF track than any QB outside of Dan Marino after two seasons.

X(I've always wanted to do that...)

Name one.

I'm not opening that can of worms. I'm just going to say that I disagree with you, and move on.

 

[Raider Nation]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

Roethlisberger is on a faster HOF track than any QB outside of Dan Marino after two seasons.

X(I've always wanted to do that...)

Name one.

I'm not opening that can of worms. I'm just going to say that I disagree with you, and move on.

Agreed. All I can say is, he had better keep winning. Extraordinary numbers in the W-L column will be the only way he gets in, unless Cowher retires in short order. He simply won't put up the eye-popping stats in that offense which most HoF voters will look at.Of course, I could be selling WINNING way too short, but Dilfer and Brad Johnson ain't gettin' in either.

Regardless, it's way too premature to even discuss Ben's chances.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Roethlisberger's first completion was to Plaxico Burress.

I don't think you'll ever have to worry about Ben wearing one of those ugly yellow blazers.Then again, Joe Namath got in.

Roethlisberger is on a faster HOF track than any QB outside of Dan Marino after two seasons.

X(I've always wanted to do that...)

Name one.

I'm not opening that can of worms. I'm just going to say that I disagree with you, and move on.

Agreed. All I can say is, he had better keep winning. Extraordinary numbers in the W-L column will be the only way he gets in, unless Cowher retires in short order. He simply won't put up the eye-popping stats in that offense which most HoF voters will look at.Of course, I could be selling WINNING way too short, but Dilfer and Brad Johnson ain't gettin' in either.

Regardless, it's way too premature to even discuss Ben's chances.

Of the top 100 QBs (in passing yards) through two seasons, only four of them have QB ratings above 90, and all four are above 98. There's Kurt Warner, Dan Marino, Ben Roethlisberger, Daunte Culpepper....and then a big gap. Roethlisberger has the highest YPA of the group, and won a Super Bowl. I'd probably say the best ever start to a career belongs to Marino, with Warner next, and Roethlisberger third. So I'll revise it and say Roethlisberger has had the third best career of any QB after two seasons.That's still lofty, lofty company. He led the NFL in adjusted yards per attempt last year. And I can't think of any non-active QB that won a Super Bowl and isn't in the HOF, that Roethlisberger won't end up passing on the passing yards list.

It's way too early to say he's going to be a HOFer, but you'd be hard pressed to think of a better way to start your caree than Big Ben. He holds a ton of rookie records, and his efficiency ratings are through the roof. He's also only 24, five years younger than Warner was.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Hard to forget about Roger Staubach: his first NFL pass may have gone to either of TWO HOFs.

:crickets:

 

[Raider Nation]

Hard to forget about Roger Staubach: his first NFL pass may have gone to either of TWO HOFs.

:crickets:

Yes, Reeves and Iron Mike.I wish we had a resource to check such things.

 

[Chase Stuart]

What team boasted two HOF QBs...and a third QB who win a Super Bowl?

 

[The Jerk]

It's way too early to say he's going to be a HOFer, but you'd be hard pressed to think of a better way to start your caree than Big Ben. He holds a ton of rookie records, and his efficiency ratings are through the roof. He's also only 24, five years younger than Warner was.

To put his age into perspective, Ben is 26 months younger than Carson Palmer.I like the way that critics of Roethlisberger nearly always credit the Steeler system with Ben's 27-4 career record. This criticism may be valid, but it must be coupled with the acknowledgement that the same system and team success also directly suppresses Ben's yardage and TD totals.Ben's 2004 season tends to be underappreciated due to his poor postseason. His three fourth quarter comebacks (Dallas week 6, Jax week 13, NYG week 15) as a 22-year old rookie not expected to play all season should stand out as showing the system doesn't deserve all of the credit. 2005 added two more 4th quarter rallies (SD week 5 and Balt week 8) along with three exceptional postseason performances before his Super Bowl dud.Frankly, five 4th quarter rallies on a Steeler team that has trailed very infrequently during the past two seasons means a lot more than most people think. If anyone could go back two years and post on this board the suggestion that Ben would achieve what he has actually done throughout the past 24 months, they would be met with sheer laughter and calls of homerism. Has Ben failed to outperform anyone's expectations for him to this point in his career? Unquestionably there is a long way to go before considering HoF possibilities, but it's one impressive resume Ben has built in only two seasons.

 

[Borat]

It's way too early to say he's going to be a HOFer, but you'd be hard pressed to think of a better way to start your caree than Big Ben. He holds a ton of rookie records, and his efficiency ratings are through the roof. He's also only 24, five years younger than Warner was.

To put his age into perspective, Ben is 26 months younger than Carson Palmer.I like the way that critics of Roethlisberger nearly always credit the Steeler system with Ben's 27-4 career record. This criticism may be valid, but it must be coupled with the acknowledgement that the same system and team success also directly suppresses Ben's yardage and TD totals.Ben's 2004 season tends to be underappreciated due to his poor postseason. His three fourth quarter comebacks (Dallas week 6, Jax week 13, NYG week 15) as a 22-year old rookie not expected to play all season should stand out as showing the system doesn't deserve all of the credit. 2005 added two more 4th quarter rallies (SD week 5 and Balt week 8) along with three exceptional postseason performances before his Super Bowl dud.Frankly, five 4th quarter rallies on a Steeler team that has trailed very infrequently during the past two seasons means a lot more than most people think. If anyone could go back two years and post on this board the suggestion that Ben would achieve what he has actually done throughout the past 24 months, they would be met with sheer laughter and calls of homerism. Has Ben failed to outperform anyone's expectations for him to this point in his career? Unquestionably there is a long way to go before considering HoF possibilities, but it's one impressive resume Ben has built in only two seasons.

The funny thing about 4th quarter comebacks that no one seems to mention is that in order to even have a chance at a 4th quarter comeback, you have to fall behind first.In a way, it's kind of like praising a junkie for finally getting his life together.

 

[Raider Nation]

It's way too early to say he's going to be a HOFer, but you'd be hard pressed to think of a better way to start your caree than Big Ben. He holds a ton of rookie records, and his efficiency ratings are through the roof. He's also only 24, five years younger than Warner was.

To put his age into perspective, Ben is 26 months younger than Carson Palmer.I like the way that critics of Roethlisberger nearly always credit the Steeler system with Ben's 27-4 career record. This criticism may be valid, but it must be coupled with the acknowledgement that the same system and team success also directly suppresses Ben's yardage and TD totals.Ben's 2004 season tends to be underappreciated due to his poor postseason. His three fourth quarter comebacks (Dallas week 6, Jax week 13, NYG week 15) as a 22-year old rookie not expected to play all season should stand out as showing the system doesn't deserve all of the credit. 2005 added two more 4th quarter rallies (SD week 5 and Balt week 8) along with three exceptional postseason performances before his Super Bowl dud.Frankly, five 4th quarter rallies on a Steeler team that has trailed very infrequently during the past two seasons means a lot more than most people think. If anyone could go back two years and post on this board the suggestion that Ben would achieve what he has actually done throughout the past 24 months, they would be met with sheer laughter and calls of homerism. Has Ben failed to outperform anyone's expectations for him to this point in his career? Unquestionably there is a long way to go before considering HoF possibilities, but it's one impressive resume Ben has built in only two seasons.

The funny thing about 4th quarter comebacks that no one seems to mention is that in order to even have a chance at a 4th quarter comeback, you have to fall behind first.In a way, it's kind of like praising a junkie for finally getting his life together.

Sure, but falling behind isn't ALL Ben's fault. Show some class, bro.

 

[The Jerk]

The funny thing about 4th quarter comebacks that no one seems to mention is that in order to even have a chance at a 4th quarter comeback, you have to fall behind first.

You should have noted in my post that Ben has had comparatively few chances to stage a 4th quarter comeback, perhaps fewer than any other starting QB during the 2004-05 seasons. Tom Brady has many 4th quarter comebacks; I guess when the Steelers fall behind, it's because Ben is a bad QB, but when the Patriots fall behind it's for some other reason. Am I getting this right?

 

[Sheriff66]

The funny thing about 4th quarter comebacks that no one seems to mention is that in order to even have a chance at a 4th quarter comeback, you have to fall behind first.

You should have noted in my post that Ben has had comparatively few chances to stage a 4th quarter comeback, perhaps fewer than any other starting QB during the 2004-05 seasons. Tom Brady has many 4th quarter comebacks; I guess when the Steelers fall behind, it's because Ben is a bad QB, but when the Patriots fall behind it's for some other reason. Am I getting this right?

Nothing was Elways fault either...

 

[TheDemon]

Shhhh...the HOF doesn't know about the "Comeback Kid" nickname.

 

[aposulli]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But is Sterling Sharep teh "HOF'er" you're speaking fo to whom Brett Favre completed his first pass? I don't remember him getting inducted.

It wasn't James Lofton was it?

Eric Dickerson??? (when Favre was on the Falcons?) (Edit: Just realized, Favre was 0-5 in his stint with ATL)

 

[The Jerk]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But is Sterling Sharep teh "HOF'er" you're speaking fo to whom Brett Favre completed his first pass? I don't remember him getting inducted.It wasn't James Lofton was it?Eric Dickerson??? (when Favre was on teh Falcons?)

I think it's Lofton myself, but I'm not good on this type of trivia.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Favre's first completion was to Brett Favre.

 

[Q-Bert]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But is Sterling Sharep teh "HOF'er" you're speaking fo to whom Brett Favre completed his first pass? I don't remember him getting inducted.It wasn't James Lofton was it?Eric Dickerson??? (when Favre was on teh Falcons?)

I think it's Lofton myself, but I'm not good on this type of trivia.

I don't think Brett Favre has ever completed a pass to a Hall of Famer. Lofton was long gone by the time Favre was a Packer. The only players that Favre has completed a pass to that have an outside shot of making the Hall of Fame are Sterling Sharpe (who I think would have been a slam dunk Hall of Famer if he hadn't been injured) and Keith Jackson (who put up some sick numbers for TEs but probably won't make it).I'm curious who the original poster thinks the Hall of Fame receiver is.

 

[Q-Bert]

Favre's first completion was to Brett Favre.

I don't remember this but I guess that would make sense.

 

[Doug B]

What team boasted two HOF QBs...and a third QB who win a Super Bowl?

Was Unitas still on the Steelers in 1957? Len Dawson started off there that year. Not sure who the third guy was, though.

 

[Sheriff66]

Favre's first completion was to Brett Favre.

I don't remember this but I guess that would make sense.

This is correct, he threw the ball, was batted into the air by a DL, Brett caught it and was tackled right there...Kinda like the Brad Johnson double TD a few years back.

 

[Doug B]

What team boasted two HOF QBs...and a third QB who win a Super Bowl?

Was Unitas still on the Steelers in 1957? Len Dawson started off there that year. Not sure who the third guy was, though.

NM ... it was Earl Morrall starting on that squad, with Len Dawson and Jack Kemp in the wings.Dang ... those Steeler teams squandered a lot of talent back then.

 

[valhallan]

In a way, it's kind of like praising a junkie for finally getting his life together.

 

[The Jerk]

Favre's first completion was to Brett Favre.

I don't remember this but I guess that would make sense.

This is correct, he threw the ball, was batted into the air by a DL, Brett caught it and was tackled right there...Kinda like the Brad Johnson double TD a few years back.

Shows what I know...Kind of cheapens the statement quite a bit ("HoFer to HoFer")

 

[aposulli]

Favre's first completion was to Brett Favre.

I don't remember this but I guess that would make sense.

This is correct, he threw the ball, was batted into the air by a DL, Brett caught it and was tackled right there...Kinda like the Brad Johnson double TD a few years back.

Shows what I know...Kind of cheapens the statement quite a bit ("HoFer to HoFer")

Probly why the original posted didn't even mention who it was.

 

[Borat]

You should have noted in my post that Ben has had comparatively few chances to stage a 4th quarter comeback, perhaps fewer than any other starting QB during the 2004-05 seasons.

I'm not sure how that makes my point any less valid.

Tom Brady has many 4th quarter comebacks; I guess when the Steelers fall behind, it's because Ben is a bad QB, but when the Patriots fall behind it's for some other reason. Am I getting this right?

No, you don't have that right. I'm not sure what led you to that conclusion.

 

[Two Deep]

Peyton Manning's first NFL completion went to Marvin Harrison -- but it was in the pre-season.LaDainian Tomlinson's first NFL completion went to Drew Brees.Reggie Bush has yet to complete an NFL pass.

If could only complete his first pass to himself, now that would be something.

 

[aposulli]

Peyton Manning's first NFL completion went to Marvin Harrison -- but it was in the pre-season.LaDainian Tomlinson's first NFL completion went to Drew Brees.Reggie Bush has yet to complete an NFL pass.

If could only complete his first pass to himself, now that would be something.

That's actually the question as to weather Favre's first pass was completed to himself.