Brewers/Cardinals NLCS (1 Viewer)

[Mr.Pack]

GO BREW CREW!

 

[Mario Kart]

What do the oddsmakers have this at? The lack of "respect" that ESPN has given Milwaukee for the past month and especially in this past series, I wouldn't be surprised to see St. Louis favored by a big margin.

 

[Raider Nation]

Cards in 5.

 

[Eephus]

What do the oddsmakers have this at? The lack of "respect" that ESPN has given Milwaukee for the past month and especially in this past series, I wouldn't be surprised to see St. Louis favored by a big margin.

that's not how oddsmakers set the line

 

[fred_1_15301]

Brewers in 7. This is going to be a flat out war. 2 great division rivals. This is what baseball is all about

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Who can swing me good seats for games 6 and 7? I'll fly in. #### it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'll be disappointed if the Cards don't win, and I'm sad to lose the chance to see potentially 4 NLCS games here, but I'm ECSTATIC to see 2 Central teams in this (3/4 in the LCS'). I just hope it's a great series.

 

[Mario Kart]

What do the oddsmakers have this at? The lack of "respect" that ESPN has given Milwaukee for the past month and especially in this past series, I wouldn't be surprised to see St. Louis favored by a big margin.

that's not how oddsmakers set the line

Duh, Brewers in 6.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol at lack of respect for Brewers in the last series.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I remember really rooting for Yount, Cooper, Gantner, Gorman and pete "ball itchl Vukovich in the 82 World Series. I don't like the Cards, have a Brewers WS future and would love a Milwaukee/Detroit World Series.

Brewers in six

 

[Eviloutsider]

Cards are on a roll, their pitching seems to have taken off, and Berkman has played well against the Brewers this year.

I have the Cards in 6.

 

[The Kerminator]

I remember really rooting for Yount, Cooper, Gantner, Gorman and pete "ball itchl Vukovich in the 82 World Series. I don't like the Cards, have a Brewers WS future and would love a Milwaukee/Detroit World Series.Brewers in six

An old A.L. East matchup would be great.

 

[Pipes]

lol at lack of respect for Brewers in the last series.

Yeah not sure what Mario Kart is getting at here. Everyone knows that ESPN pretty much ignores every major league team that isn't NY, Boston or Philly. All other teams coverage is secondary to that of the major east coast markets. Always has always will be. Brewers in 7. Should be a great series with two teams who hate each other. I'm sure Larussa will be complaining about the shadows on Sunday.

 

[Balco]

Definitely rooting for the Brewers to win the series.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

lol at lack of respect for Brewers in the last series.

Yeah not sure what Mario Kart is getting at here. Everyone knows that ESPN pretty much ignores every major league team that isn't NY, Boston or Philly. All other teams coverage is secondary to that of the major east coast markets. Always has always will be. Brewers in 7. Should be a great series with two teams who hate each other. I'm sure Larussa will be complaining about the shadows on Sunday.

This is a greta point - the remaining teams are mid-level markets...how much push will the playoffs and world series get? Obviously some - but not to the incessant coverage you'd see for NY, Boston, Philly, etc. Kind of nice really. Tough call on who to pull for in the AL...Kinsler and Scherzer both Mizzou grads so I would be happy if either team won. Brewer sare hard to hate (although I think Morgan is an ###...but like Rex Hudler - you love him if he is on your team and he is annoying if he is not on your team).

 

[RnR]

although I think Morgan is an ###...but like Rex Hudler - you love him if he is on your team and he is annoying if he is not on your team.

I'm not sure that's the case. I'd dislike him just the same the minute he put a Cardinals uniform on. Some guys just aren't worth the baggage. He's one of those guys.

 

[Eephus]

although I think Morgan is an ###...but like Rex Hudler - you love him if he is on your team and he is annoying if he is not on your team.

I'm not sure that's the case. I'd dislike him just the same the minute he put a Cardinals uniform on. Some guys just aren't worth the baggage. He's one of those guys.

He's the toast of the town right now. Morgan will eventually do something stupid again and be off to another city; hopefully it won't happen in the next three weeks.

 

[RnR]

although I think Morgan is an ###...but like Rex Hudler - you love him if he is on your team and he is annoying if he is not on your team.

I'm not sure that's the case. I'd dislike him just the same the minute he put a Cardinals uniform on. Some guys just aren't worth the baggage. He's one of those guys.

He's the toast of the town right now. Morgan will eventually do something stupid again and be off to another city; hopefully it won't happen in the next three weeks.

Yeah, funny how a game-winning hit can work wonders for the perception of a guy. Honestly, I think the people that enjoy his antics in Milwaukee are people that are unfamiliar with his antics in Pittsburgh and Washington. Milton Bradley is skeptical of this guy.

 

[Mario Kart]

lol at lack of respect for Brewers in the last series.

Yeah not sure what Mario Kart is getting at here. Everyone knows that ESPN pretty much ignores every major league team that isn't NY, Boston or Philly. All other teams coverage is secondary to that of the major east coast markets. Always has always will be. Brewers in 7. Should be a great series with two teams who hate each other. I'm sure Larussa will be complaining about the shadows on Sunday.

This is a greta point - the remaining teams are mid-level markets...how much push will the playoffs and world series get? Obviously some - but not to the incessant coverage you'd see for NY, Boston, Philly, etc. Kind of nice really. Tough call on who to pull for in the AL...Kinsler and Scherzer both Mizzou grads so I would be happy if either team won. Brewer sare hard to hate (although I think Morgan is an ###...but like Rex Hudler - you love him if he is on your team and he is annoying if he is not on your team).

I am not an apologist for the "treatment" some give to Milwaukee but the coverage on ESPN of both the Brewers and the Rays for the last month has been horrendous. Just last night alone, it was like listening to a funeral when the Phillies lost. ESPN went over every signing and every move the Phillies made and casting a dark shadow over the team. Similar to how they covered the Red Sox and Yankees "demise". The marketing team at ESPN is run by a bunch of amateurs since 27 other teams probably outweigh those 3. Then again, who knows. Either way, it is nice to see a post season with "smaller" markets left. Right now, over/under is 7.5 with -142/+132 money line. Brewers favored with Greinke vs. Garcia

 

[snorlax]

although I think Morgan is an ###...but like Rex Hudler - you love him if he is on your team and he is annoying if he is not on your team.

I'm not sure that's the case. I'd dislike him just the same the minute he put a Cardinals uniform on. Some guys just aren't worth the baggage. He's one of those guys.

He's the toast of the town right now. Morgan will eventually do something stupid again and be off to another city; hopefully it won't happen in the next three weeks.

Yeah, funny how a game-winning hit can work wonders for the perception of a guy. Honestly, I think the people that enjoy his antics in Milwaukee are people that are unfamiliar with his antics in Pittsburgh and Washington. Milton Bradley is skeptical of this guy.

The game-winning hit did nothing to change the perception of Nyjer in Milwaukee. He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

 

[Captain Hook]

Last time the Brewers and Cardinals met in any playoffs was.............1982 World Series when Milwaukee Brewers were still in the AL.

This should be a really good battle

 

[RnR]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

 

[DCThunder]

I'm rooting for the Brew Crew for two reasons:

[*]Fond memories of Harvey's Wallbangers and how I'd already grown to hate the Cardinals even before they won the '82 WS.

[*]TPlush who was the only reason to follow the Nats during the time he was in DC.

Do they still do the Sausage Races duing playoff games and do they have the guy who slides into the giant beer stein for Brewer home runs?

 

[Eephus]

Last time the Brewers and Cardinals met in any playoffs was.............1982 World Series when Milwaukee Brewers were still in the AL.This should be a really good battle

I hate John Stuper

 

[The Kerminator]

So it begins

La Russa responds strongly to Greinke's comments

Let the fireworks begin.

Oh, excuse me. They already have started.

Brewers' Game 1 starter Zack Greinke made a few critical comments about St. Louis ace Chris Carpenter in an interview session at Miller Park, and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa responded to Greinke's comments.

Greinke was asked what the Brewers have against Carpenter, who got into it with Nyjer Morgan during the teams' last regular-season series in St. Louis.

"I don't know," Greinke said. "They think his presence, his attitude out there sometimes is like a phony attitude. But ... and then he yells at people. He just stares people down and stuff. And most pitchers just don't do that.

"And when guys do, I guess some hitters get mad. Some hitters do it to pitchers. But when you do that some people will get made. There's other pitchers in the league that do it, but I don't know, a lot of guys on our team don't like Carpenter."

When Greinke's comments were relayed to La Russa, the Cardinals manager said: "It's very disappointing that Greinke would say that. I've always thought he was high-character type, a classy guy.

"That's a bad comment to make unless you know Chris Carpenter. Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. Even if we don't like what's happening on the other side, it's not our business unless somebody crosses the line.

"So I think the Brewers should take care of their players and their comments and not be concerned about other players' comments. If they had Chris Carpenter, they would be cheering for him and believing in him and they would not be allowing somebody who was a teammate to make a crack like that.

"But Greinke's not his teammate, so I'm disappointed. If you knew him, none of that stuff is true. He doesn't give (expletive) .... and he doesn't take it. That's the way it's supposed to be."

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

So it begins

La Russa responds strongly to Greinke's comments

Let the fireworks begin.

Oh, excuse me. They already have started.

Brewers' Game 1 starter Zack Greinke made a few critical comments about St. Louis ace Chris Carpenter in an interview session at Miller Park, and Cardinals manager Tony La Russa responded to Greinke's comments.

Greinke was asked what the Brewers have against Carpenter, who got into it with Nyjer Morgan during the teams' last regular-season series in St. Louis.

"I don't know," Greinke said. "They think his presence, his attitude out there sometimes is like a phony attitude. But ... and then he yells at people. He just stares people down and stuff. And most pitchers just don't do that.

"And when guys do, I guess some hitters get mad. Some hitters do it to pitchers. But when you do that some people will get made. There's other pitchers in the league that do it, but I don't know, a lot of guys on our team don't like Carpenter."

When Greinke's comments were relayed to La Russa, the Cardinals manager said: "It's very disappointing that Greinke would say that. I've always thought he was high-character type, a classy guy.

"That's a bad comment to make unless you know Chris Carpenter. Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. Even if we don't like what's happening on the other side, it's not our business unless somebody crosses the line.

"So I think the Brewers should take care of their players and their comments and not be concerned about other players' comments. If they had Chris Carpenter, they would be cheering for him and believing in him and they would not be allowing somebody who was a teammate to make a crack like that.

"But Greinke's not his teammate, so I'm disappointed. If you knew him, none of that stuff is true. He doesn't give (expletive) .... and he doesn't take it. That's the way it's supposed to be."

There is a lot of truth to this. I love Carp, but it wasn't coincidence that he was one who precipitated the brawl last year.

 

[The Kerminator]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Morgan was upset that Carpenter cussed him out after the strikeout and then turned around and walked away.

 

[Willy]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Morgan was upset that Carpenter cussed him out after the strikeout and then turned around and walked away.

Carpenter admitted the next day that he said f you or f off, can't remember which. I wouldn't really even care except it keeps being framed as though Morgan went nuts just because he struck out.

 

[The Kerminator]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Morgan was upset that Carpenter cussed him out after the strikeout and then turned around and walked away.

Carpenter admitted the next day that he said f you or f off, can't remember which. I wouldn't really even care except it keeps being framed as though Morgan went nuts just because he struck out.

Exactly. All the blame is put on Morgan. If Carpenter is going to cuss somebody out after striking them out at least don't turn around and walk away like a coward.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Morgan was upset that Carpenter cussed him out after the strikeout and then turned around and walked away.

Carpenter admitted the next day that he said f you or f off, can't remember which. I wouldn't really even care except it keeps being framed as though Morgan went nuts just because he struck out.

Exactly. All the blame is put on Morgan. If Carpenter is going to cuss somebody out after striking them out at least don't turn around and walk away like a coward.

Carp is like the older sibling that stirs stuff up and then the younger sibling gets in trouble.

 

[Mario Kart]

When is the last time a batter charged a pitcher in the playoffs? When is the last time someone was thrown out for throwing at a batter in the playoffs?

Could happen.

 

[Bobcat10]

Cards in 7. Destiny.

 

[Mr.Pack]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

This is the one where Carpenter came out and said that he started it by talking ####?This is that one, right?

 

[Mr.Pack]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Or that Carp started spouting #### to him after he struck him out?For the uninformed here, Carp came out and admitted he started the ####.

HTH

 

[snorlax]

I'm rooting for the Brew Crew for two reasons:

[*]Fond memories of Harvey's Wallbangers and how I'd already grown to hate the Cardinals even before they won the '82 WS.

[*]TPlush who was the only reason to follow the Nats during the time he was in DC.

Do they still do the Sausage Races duing playoff games and do they have the guy who slides into the giant beer stein for Brewer home runs?

Yes, they still do the sausage races. I was there for Game 1 of the last series, and Chorizo just dominated. Bernie Brewer still goes down the slide for home runs, but I don't think they've had the beer mug since they moved into Miller Park. He now slides into the "Kalahari Splash Zone" with water spraying on him and the surrounding crowd, a marketing plug for Kalahari Resorts water park in Wisconsin Dells.

 

[Mr.Pack]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Morgan was upset that Carpenter cussed him out after the strikeout and then turned around and walked away.

Carpenter admitted the next day that he said f you or f off, can't remember which. I wouldn't really even care except it keeps being framed as though Morgan went nuts just because he struck out.

Exactly. All the blame is put on Morgan. If Carpenter is going to cuss somebody out after striking them out at least don't turn around and walk away like a coward.

Lets not ruin the hating party here, they are having fun.

 

[Mr.Pack]

For the record, I have the Brewers in 6.

Over/Under of bench clearing scuffles at 2.

 

[snorlax]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Also,

 

[curta269]

I'll be disappointed if the Cards don't win, and I'm sad to lose the chance to see potentially 4 NLCS games here, but I'm ECSTATIC to see 2 Central teams in this (3/4 in the LCS'). I just hope it's a great series.

 

[curta269]

On tomorrow night's ESPN sportscenter, how long do you guys think it will take them to cover the NLCS or ALCS? I think at least 20 minutes into it. No westcoast or eastcoast teams left and its week 5 of the NFL. It will take them forever to show highlights, and it will only be about 5 minutes of coverage is my guess.

 

[Eephus]

On tomorrow night's ESPN sportscenter, how long do you guys think it will take them to cover the NLCS or ALCS? I think at least 20 minutes into it. No westcoast or eastcoast teams left and its week 5 of the NFL. It will take them forever to show highlights, and it will only be about 5 minutes of coverage is my guess.

Nobody respects you

 

[RnR]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Morgan was upset that Carpenter cussed him out after the strikeout and then turned around and walked away.

Carpenter admitted the next day that he said f you or f off, can't remember which. I wouldn't really even care except it keeps being framed as though Morgan went nuts just because he struck out.

Exactly. All the blame is put on Morgan. If Carpenter is going to cuss somebody out after striking them out at least don't turn around and walk away like a coward.

Lets not ruin the hating party here, they are having fun.

Fellas, fellas. Let's tell the whole story, please. LINK

 

[RnR]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Or that Carp started spouting #### to him after he struck him out?For the uninformed here, Carp came out and admitted he started the ####.

HTH

Who is uninformed? You?Quote from the link provided above:

On Friday, Carpenter pulled a reporter from The Post-Dispatch and a reporter from MLB.com aside to clarify his explanation.

Preferring not to talk about it again or put the incident back in the headlines, Carpenter said he didn't want to "come across as a liar" because of the confusion. Carpenter acknowledged that he did yell at Morgan, telling him to "(verb) off."

The curse words came at the end of what's been a long run of irritation from the Cardinals' point of view. Morgan, according to Carpenter's teammates, taunted and cursed the pitcher earlier in the game when he hit a double. During the Brewers' visit to Busch Stadium in August, the game had to be stopped and the umpires addressed the Milwaukee dugout, where, it was revealed by The Post-Dispatch and other outlets later, Morgan was yelling obscenities at Carpenter and calling the pitcher vulgar names. Teammates had to restrain Morgan during that game, and eventually had to remove him from the dugout before he caused a problem with the umpires.

 

[The Kerminator]

This is going to be like the NFC Championship Game

Bears vs. Packers x 7

The good guys will win again

 

[Ghost Rider]

This is going to be like the NFC Championship Game

Bears vs. Packers x 7

The good guys will win again

Agreed. Cardinals in 6 sounds about right.

 

[Mr.Pack]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Or that Carp started spouting #### to him after he struck him out?For the uninformed here, Carp came out and admitted he started the ####.

HTH

Who is uninformed? You?Quote from the link provided above:

On Friday, Carpenter pulled a reporter from The Post-Dispatch and a reporter from MLB.com aside to clarify his explanation.

Preferring not to talk about it again or put the incident back in the headlines, Carpenter said he didn't want to "come across as a liar" because of the confusion. Carpenter acknowledged that he did yell at Morgan, telling him to "(verb) off."

The curse words came at the end of what's been a long run of irritation from the Cardinals' point of view. Morgan, according to Carpenter's teammates, taunted and cursed the pitcher earlier in the game when he hit a double. During the Brewers' visit to Busch Stadium in August, the game had to be stopped and the umpires addressed the Milwaukee dugout, where, it was revealed by The Post-Dispatch and other outlets later, Morgan was yelling obscenities at Carpenter and calling the pitcher vulgar names. Teammates had to restrain Morgan during that game, and eventually had to remove him from the dugout before he caused a problem with the umpires.

according to Carpenter's teammatesI'm sure they wouldn't fudge the truth there now would they?

You can believe your boy Carpenter is an angel, whatever helps you sleep at night.

I know Morgan has a mouth just as much as Carpenter. It's never just one guy.

But hey, keep believing in seashells and balloons.

 

[RnR]

He's been a positive force for the team all year. Being on a winning team has curtailed those antics you mentioned. If anyone else had watched him on their own team this year, they would be just as happy as the fans in Milwaukee to have him on their team.

Yeah, its only been 30 days since THIS. Guess you missed that one.

Apparently he was upset that Carp had the audacity to strike him out. Priceless though was his getting all bowed up as Pujols ran in to intervene. Pujols is the nicest guy in the world, but have to imagine he'd destroy Nyjer in a fight (not involving a pitcher spiking people in the head). God, Morgan would be such a pefect fit for Cincinatti.

Or that Carp started spouting #### to him after he struck him out?For the uninformed here, Carp came out and admitted he started the ####.

HTH

Who is uninformed? You?Quote from the link provided above:

On Friday, Carpenter pulled a reporter from The Post-Dispatch and a reporter from MLB.com aside to clarify his explanation.

Preferring not to talk about it again or put the incident back in the headlines, Carpenter said he didn't want to "come across as a liar" because of the confusion. Carpenter acknowledged that he did yell at Morgan, telling him to "(verb) off."

The curse words came at the end of what's been a long run of irritation from the Cardinals' point of view. Morgan, according to Carpenter's teammates, taunted and cursed the pitcher earlier in the game when he hit a double. During the Brewers' visit to Busch Stadium in August, the game had to be stopped and the umpires addressed the Milwaukee dugout, where, it was revealed by The Post-Dispatch and other outlets later, Morgan was yelling obscenities at Carpenter and calling the pitcher vulgar names. Teammates had to restrain Morgan during that game, and eventually had to remove him from the dugout before he caused a problem with the umpires.

according to Carpenter's teammatesI'm sure they wouldn't fudge the truth there now would they?

You can believe your boy Carpenter is an angel, whatever helps you sleep at night.

I know Morgan has a mouth just as much as Carpenter. It's never just one guy.

But hey, keep believing in seashells and balloons.

Yeah, I'm the one believing in seashells and balloons.

If only one of the players had a 14-year career with all-star appearances, Cy Young awards, and not a hint of controversy within his own clubhouse. And then, maybe if the other player has moved from team to team like a nomad, creating controversy at every turn, running his mouth, starting fights, etc. If only that were the case, then maybe we could make an assumption about who may have started this skirmish.

Too bad we don't have that. Honestly, I have no idea who to blame. This Nyjer guy seems like a class act through and through.

You're right on top of things, Pack. As usual.

 

[Disco Stu]

I'll be disappointed if the Cards don't win, and I'm sad to lose the chance to see potentially 4 NLCS games here, but I'm ECSTATIC to see 2 Central teams in this (3/4 in the LCS'). I just hope it's a great series.

Are you talking Central division or Central time zone? Either way it's 3/4, but the odd team out changes.

 

[Disco Stu]

Morgan seems like a ####, but that's not going to keep me from rooting for the Brewers.

I've been a very casual fan since moving out of WI in '98. I need to be able to watch my favorite team every night, so I adopted the Rangers.

Found memories of listening to Bob Uecker call games though. Robin Yount poster in my room. The '92 team was good... Yount and Molitor still around but surrounded by promising young players. Win this one for Pat Listach and Jaime Navarro.