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BRIAN LEONARD = STUD (1 Viewer)

He's the first Brian Leonard... which is to say he is the offspring of a mad experiment involving former Niner teammates Ricky Waters, Tom Rathman and a kangaroo... a shiela of course. There are a lot more safeties and LBs who can tackle him 1 on 1 in the NFL.. so it will be interesting to see what happens... to see if he gets better to meet the challenge or he just rises to some natural level of what he can do.

 
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He's an interesting player, but I don't think he's quite athletic enough to be an above average RB in the NFL. I view him as RB/FB hybrid whose NFL value will probably exceed his FF value. So while he could put up some numbers in the event of a Steven Jackson injury, I don't think he'll ever be a consistent 1,000 yard guy.

 
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word has come out that he won't even play a lot of fullback this year, and his college stats weren't overwhelming, so I am not expecting much . . .

 
WOW!!!!!

Football guys huh, your comparing a rookie to a guy who racked up 90 rec lots of yards and 16 scores at the RB position.

The fact your uttering his name in the same sentence and it not being "he just SJ's back up" is crazy to me.....

and he's white!!!!!

 
JuSt CuZ said:
WOW!!!!!

Football guys huh, your comparing a rookie to a guy who racked up 90 rec lots of yards and 16 scores at the RB position.

The fact your uttering his name in the same sentence and it not being "he just SJ's back up" is crazy to me.....

and he's white!!!!!
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JuSt CuZ said:
WOW!!!!!Football guys huh, your comparing a rookie to a guy who racked up 90 rec lots of yards and 16 scores at the RB position.The fact your uttering his name in the same sentence and it not being "he just SJ's back up" is crazy to me.....and he's white!!!!!
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I never mentioned that he would be supplanting SJax, that is just crazy. All I'm saying is he is a very talented back and will be starting for ANOTHER TEAM in a few years. Obviously, he is a great pickup for SJax owner but I see more in his future. ONCE AGAIN, I DID NOT INTEND TO SAY HE WOULD REPLACE SJAX, THAT IS CRAZY TALK!!!
 
I think Brian Leonard would be a nice featured back if he was given the chance. Also, about that white man's disease, Brian Leonard clearly does not suffer from it:

Leonard Jumping

Leonard has all the tools to be an NFL running back. He's big, strong, he's plenty fast enough, cuts back well, and doesn't shy away from contact.

 
EBF said:
He's an interesting player, but I don't think he's quite athletic enough to be an above average RB in the NFL. I view him as RB/FB hybrid whose NFL value will probably exceed his FF value. So while he could put up some numbers in the event of a Steven Jackson injury, I don't think he'll ever be a consistent 1,000 yard guy.
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:goodposting: this is pretty much the book on Leonard. Talented enough to produce if called into duty, but not talented enough to hold down a #1 job for the long haul. I though he might have some interesting fantasy potential if he had ended up in Green Bay or Buffalo, maybe even New England or Indy, but St Louis is probably a bottom 5 destination for backup RB fantasy value (at least in terms of opportunity). If you expect him to have any fantasy value in the near future, then you better be discounting Steven Jackson, because thats the only way it happens.
 
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Funny how some write him off with glib comments like 'he's white'. I would say ignore Brian Leonard at your own peril. It will likely be a few years before he has an impact on the NFL as the OP mentions, but I think he could shine in the NFL some day.

I don't have a ton of time to follow guys in college, and can't say I've seen a ton of Leonard in action. That being said, I do spend some of my time reading opinions of evaluators that I respect. One of those evaluators I respect is Matt Waldman over at a competing site. His rookie scouting portfolio is gold for any dynasty leaguer. On an un-adjusted basis, he had Leonard ranked as the #3 RB in this years class. On an adjusted basis he ranked him #1. I'd have to agree with Bloom that STL was a bad landing spot for Leonard in terms of immediate impact on the NFL...but as Bloom likes to say, talent will eventually get a chance to shine. To me, Waldman’s is enough of an endorsement to keep tabs on the guy, regardless of who he is currently behind, or what color his skin is.

 
I wouldnt want to bet the house on it, but considering the total # of touches Jackson had last year, and the team and coach have proven to be committed to the run now, I could think of far worse sleeper picks than Brian Leonard. Jackson owners are absolutely crazy if they dont pick this guy up as insurance beyond the 12th round.

 
the_sig said:
Funny how some write him off with glib comments like 'he's white'. I would say ignore Brian Leonard at your own peril. It will likely be a few years before he has an impact on the NFL as the OP mentions, but I think he could shine in the NFL some day.I don't have a ton of time to follow guys in college, and can't say I've seen a ton of Leonard in action. That being said, I do spend some of my time reading opinions of evaluators that I respect. One of those evaluators I respect is Matt Waldman over at a competing site. His rookie scouting portfolio is gold for any dynasty leaguer. On an un-adjusted basis, he had Leonard ranked as the #3 RB in this years class. On an adjusted basis he ranked him #1. I'd have to agree with Bloom that STL was a bad landing spot for Leonard in terms of immediate impact on the NFL...but as Bloom likes to say, talent will eventually get a chance to shine. To me, Waldman’s is enough of an endorsement to keep tabs on the guy, regardless of who he is currently behind, or what color his skin is.
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Articles and opinions from those geniuses over at FFToday = :goodposting:
 
obviously the person posting the OP is a moron (just look at my sig for irrefutable evidence) and likely a pretty poor judge of talent.

despite that, Leonard has skills and could be pretty darn good given the right opportunity.

 
276 lbs has me concerned about "feature back" potential!

Maybe thats a typo on Sportsline - but no way if 275. I'm thinking Chris Cooley type H-back. Maybe he can qualify as a TE, then I'm interested.

 
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The Royal Jack said:
276 lbs has me concerned about "feature back" potential! Maybe thats a typo on Sportsline - but no way if 275. I'm thinking Chris Cooley type H-back. Maybe he can qualify as a TE, then I'm interested.
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FBG lists 240. Rams website lists 226.
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He is about 226. His upper body is way too slim for 275.
 
Time to put the cards on the table.

Are any of you S-Jax owners legitimately concerned that Leonard will steal a lot of meaningful carries this year?

Or is he strictly a 3rd down/comes-in-only-when-Jackson-gets-tired option?

:goodposting:

 
RAIDERNATION said:
Time to put the cards on the table.

Are any of you S-Jax owners legitimately concerned that Leonard will steal a lot of meaningful carries this year?

Or is he strictly a 3rd down/comes-in-only-when-Jackson-gets-tired option?

:goodposting:
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The bolded one.-Non-SJax owner

 
As a SJax owner in a dynasty league, I would be happy if he doesn't have another season with 436 touches because I want him to last a while longer. That would mean someone has to take some touches away and I can definitely see Leonard as that guy. Jackson will still be a stud with 50 less touches a season anyway.

 
Now that they've seen him run a bit to qualify him as a backup to SJax, the Rams plan to have him concentrate on fullback now for the rest of the preseason.

 
BL is SJ's backup..any player can get hurt..so if you got SJ better get BL too! Thinking BL will cut into SJ TD's a few times also at the goal line! :lmao:

 
Leonard/Jackson could form a potentially dynamic backfield duo if they'll give Leonard 10-15 touches a game from the FB position. It would make their offense even that much better, IMO. Not sure how much Leonard will affect SJ's numbers this season, but I don't believe it'll be enough to warrant a drop in the rankings.

 
Football Jones said:
Leonard/Jackson could form a potentially dynamic backfield duo if they'll give Leonard 10-15 touches a game from the FB position. It would make their offense even that much better, IMO. Not sure how much Leonard will affect SJ's numbers this season, but I don't believe it'll be enough to warrant a drop in the rankings.
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10-15 touches?A game?
 
OCC said:
Football Jones said:
Leonard/Jackson could form a potentially dynamic backfield duo if they'll give Leonard 10-15 touches a game from the FB position. It would make their offense even that much better, IMO. Not sure how much Leonard will affect SJ's numbers this season, but I don't believe it'll be enough to warrant a drop in the rankings.
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10-15 touches?A game?
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Yes. Well, second thought, maybe 8-12. They could easily do that from the FB position without taking away hardly any of Jackson's touches. They'll both be on the field & you simply call more plays for the FB. Obviously, somebody's numbers will suffer, but if they do incorporate Leonard into the offense a fair amount it will likely come at the cost of a few less pass attempts.
 
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OCC said:
Football Jones said:
Leonard/Jackson could form a potentially dynamic backfield duo if they'll give Leonard 10-15 touches a game from the FB position. It would make their offense even that much better, IMO. Not sure how much Leonard will affect SJ's numbers this season, but I don't believe it'll be enough to warrant a drop in the rankings.
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10-15 touches?A game?
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Seriously? You cant honestly be typing that with a straight face. He is a fullback. Period. Fullbacks do not touch the ball 15 times a game. Ever. Someone wrote Konrad above and i think that is a good post and all that is really needed to know about Leaonard. Great Guy? Yes. Poteantial to be a great Fullback? Yes. Goalline carry every now and then when his team needs him to really pound? Possible. 10-15 touches a game? Never. 10-15 touches a game with SJackson on his team. Absolutely never. STUD? Well, you get the point.
 
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EBF said:
He's an interesting player, but I don't think he's quite athletic Black enough to be an above average RB in the NFL. I view him as RB/FB hybrid whose NFL value will probably exceed his FF value. So while he could put up some numbers in the event of a Steven Jackson injury, I don't think he'll ever be a consistent 1,000 yard guy.
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You need to stay over in the FFA...inserting racist comments into what someone else wrote is pretty lowbrow. What do you hope to accomplish by writing that anyways?
 
average talent + stellar character = solid NFL player

Solid NFL player + opportunity = solid fantasy player

Unfortunately he does not have opportunity now and may not for many years. He could be LaMont Jordaned (Curtis Martin Era) behind SJax for 5 more years easy. That said, Leonard is a leader who will work hard to be successful in the NFL. I hope he gets the carries to shine. I think if he does he will.

At this point, the only people who should own Leonard are SJax owners and people looking for a buy week filler.

 
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thehornet said:
OCC said:
Football Jones said:
Leonard/Jackson could form a potentially dynamic backfield duo if they'll give Leonard 10-15 touches a game from the FB position. It would make their offense even that much better, IMO. Not sure how much Leonard will affect SJ's numbers this season, but I don't believe it'll be enough to warrant a drop in the rankings.
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10-15 touches?A game?
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Seriously? You cant honestly be typing that with a straight face. He is a fullback. Period. Fullbacks do not touch the ball 15 times a game. Ever. Someone wrote Konrad above and i think that is a good post and all that is really needed to know about Leaonard. Great Guy? Yes. Poteantial to be a great Fullback? Yes. Goalline carry every now and then when his team needs him to really pound? Possible. 10-15 touches a game? Never. 10-15 touches a game with SJackson on his team. Absolutely never. STUD? Well, you get the point.
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Another Rutgers season ticket holder here. Comments like these can only come from someone who's never seen Leonard play. Leonard is never going to impress anyone with his speed or athleticism. But he definitely has the potential to be a #1. There are plenty of guys that have excelled given the opportunity without being burners. No one can tell me he can't have a career like Anthony Thomas, a good complimentary player who also has a couple of 1000 yard seasons when given the opportunity to be the feature back. But even if he doesn't have 1000 yard, feature back seasons, he will contribute much more than Rob Konrad. First, Leonard has played both HB and FB, and only returned to FB for this senior season. And the comparison to Konrad is stupid, since Konrad was 6-3, 255, more of an H-back/TE. Leonard will have more carries in the first half of the season than Konrad had in his whole career.Some of you guys should really watch some football before you put yourself out there as experts.
 
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