Brian Westbrook "day to day" with ankle strain (2 Viewers)

[Texican]

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—Eagles running back Brian Westbrook strained his ankle in Philadelphia's 15-6 win over Pittsburgh on Sunday and will have an MRI on Monday.Eagles coach Andy Reid said X-rays on the ankle were negative but the team would do more tests.Westbrook did not speak with reporters but was on crutches in the locker room after the game.Westbrook appeared to get hurt while hurdling a teammate on a 2-yard run early in the second period. He limped off the field and was attended to on the sideline before walking to the locker room. He did not return.Incidentally...was poking around for the difference between sprain and strain:A sprain is an injury to a ligament, and a strain is an injury to a muscle or tendon. Strains can occur without a sprain; however, when you have a sprain, you will almost always have a strain.a strain stretches, twists, or otherwise overstresses nerve fibers, tendons, and muscles without doing serious damage; a sprain is more serious, a rupture or tear of a ligament that may take some time to repair itself, often with swelling and temporary loss of use. Each can be painful, but a sprain is likely to be worse.

I could have saved you 15 minutes...I don't think it'll be anything serious, but I'm just a PT, not HIS PT. Not much in the ankle that could keep him out for a long time unless it were a break or if he tore a ligament (3rd degree sprain). Chances are if it's a 2nd degree sprain he may not suit up for a week or 2. But, in the NFL there's a magical thing called cortisone injections that work wonders on athletes to keep them playing. Much like Lubchenko coming back to hit the game winning FG for Springfield University after his leg was hanging on just by his skin

well lucky for me it was more like a 4 second cut n paste job...i get to keep those 15 minutes to waste somewhere else

You could have sex. Five times.

And still have ten minutes left to make a sandwich and do some research on hauser's matchup for week 4.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Looked like a season ending injury to me.

It didn't look that bad.

 

[Texican]

As someone else said, the thing that worries me is watching him walk down the tunnel. He slammed something down in disgust (I thought it was his gloves or something, but someone else said it may have been his helmet). And he looked to slow down and walk with even more of a limp. Obviously at this point everything is speculation on our parts, but his body language changed for the worse once he got into the tunnel. Just my opinion.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Looked like a season ending injury to me.

It didn't look that bad.

It looked pretty bad IMO. Awkward would be the term. Probably just at the ankle, but you have to be concerned about midfoot and the Achilles (though apparently that is fine since they haven't said anything.) It just looked really awkward. It wouldn't surprise me if he missed > 2 weeks.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Here is to hoping he pulls the same routine as last year: Too hurt to practice but 150 total yards and a TD or two on Sunday!

 

[The Noid]

The one word we don't want to hear is the "L" word. Duce, Chad Lewis...

This could be the new Sports Hernia for the Birds.

 

[cvnpoka]

sprains can take a long time to heel. longer than some breaks. they can also heal in a few days. ive had my share and would be in much pain and think "oh sht, im done for a long time" and then 5 days later i feel fine. ive also been out for over a month too. ice and anti inflammatory is amazing. i would imagine a professional athlete has available much better care than that too.

it comes down to ligament damage. if hes got a full or partial tear its gonna be a long time and surgery. otherwise i expect 2 weeks or at most after the bye week.

 

[dirtywaters20]

The one word we don't want to hear is the "L" word. Duce, Chad Lewis...This could be the new Sports Hernia for the Birds.

I think Eskin reported on the radio last night that the X-Ray ruled out a break or a LisFranc. I don't know how credible it is, but that is what I heard. I think he said the early diagnosis was a "strained" ankle tendon.

 

[joffer]

The one word we don't want to hear is the "L" word. Duce, Chad Lewis...This could be the new Sports Hernia for the Birds.

I think Eskin reported on the radio last night that the X-Ray ruled out a break or a LisFranc. I don't know how credible it is, but that is what I heard. I think he said the early diagnosis was a "strained" ankle tendon.

Eskin is a ###-kissing tool, but his information is generally pretty good.

 

[Please See Mine]

Ankle Strain per Reid in today's news conference after MRI.

Says he's limping today w/o crutches and it's a day-to-day situation.

 

[Please See Mine]

No torn or damaged ligaments. Strained ligament.

 

[EaglesNest]

Andy Reid's press conference:

He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

 

[dirtywaters20]

The one word we don't want to hear is the "L" word. Duce, Chad Lewis...This could be the new Sports Hernia for the Birds.

I think Eskin reported on the radio last night that the X-Ray ruled out a break or a LisFranc. I don't know how credible it is, but that is what I heard. I think he said the early diagnosis was a "strained" ankle tendon.

Eskin is a ###-kissing tool, but his information is generally pretty good.

He's a short and insecure little man but his information in normally piped in by upper levels of management. That's his reward for serving as the team's mouthpiece on the radio.

 

[dancingbones]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

 

[glock]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

:whew!:

 

[EaglesNest]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

No prob....and just my thoughts on it, but I wouldn't expect him to play this week. He's going to have to be 100% to play against a hard hitting Bears Defense. Andy won't risk it. He's not gonna come out and say he's not playing Sunday...cause I'm sure he still wants the Bears to have to gameplan for him.

 

[fflnut]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

No prob....and just my thoughts on it, but I wouldn't expect him to play this week. He's going to have to be 100% to play against a hard hitting Bears Defense. Andy won't risk it. He's not gonna come out and say he's not playing Sunday...cause I'm sure he still wants the Bears to have to gameplan for him.

Pardon the lack of knowledge on my part - curious, does the MRI showing no ligament damage mean that it's not the high ankle variety of sprain and that it's a minor sprain?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Andy said Westbrook is limping around without crutches today, and that he's day-to-day. It'll be a "race" to get him ready for Sunday, Reid said. There is a strain in his ankle, although Reid said no tear.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

I hope you didn't have to play Hauser's team this week...

 

[EaglesNest]

Pardon the lack of knowledge on my part - curious, does the MRI showing no ligament damage mean that it's not the high ankle variety of sprain and that it's a minor sprain?

I'm not sure...but I should mention that he said it's a Strain...I think I originally said sprain. Apparently there is a difference between a strain and a sprain. Damned if I know what it is. Maybe someone here does. But again, he said it's not serious, it's day to day, and they are going to race to try and get him ready for Sunday (but I doubt he'll play sunday)

 

[uconnalum]

Westbrook day-to-day with ankle strain

By ROB MAADDI – 33 minutes ago

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — All-Pro running back Brian Westbrook is day-to-day with a strained ankle, an encouraging sign for a Philadelphia Eagles team that can't afford to lose its top offensive player.

An MRI on Monday revealed no damaged ligaments, coach Andy Reid said.

"He's limping around without the crutches," Reid said. "I guess that's a positive."

Westbrook injured his right ankle while hurdling a teammate on a 2-yard run on the first play of the second quarter of Sunday's 15-6 win over Pittsburgh. He walked to the locker room without help, but didn't return and left the stadium on crutches.

Westbrook led the NFL with a franchise-record 2,104 total yards from scrimmage last season and earned his second trip to the Pro Bowl. He signed a a new three-year contract in August worth $21 million, including $13 million guaranteed the first two years.

Westbrook scored five touchdowns in the first two games this season. He has 161 yards rushing and 46 more receiving.

Quarterback Donovan McNabb, who missed five plays against the Steelers in the third quarter, has a bruised chest. McNabb, who also had an MRI exam, is expected to play against Chicago on Sunday night.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Looked like a season ending injury to me.

Not a chance.There is no way in hell that they would have let him walk off of the field on his own... and back to the locker room on hiis own, with a season ending ankle injury. I have had bad sprains that healed in 2 weeks, that simply could not be walked on directly afterwards. I am not talking about just pain either... I am talking that it isn't stable enough to walk on. This could be no worse than a strain, or a minor sprain.

Agreed. The amount of limping within the first few minutes after an ankle inury is NOT the way to diagnose how serious it is.Still, another lingering injury to keep Westy on the injury report as questionable all season.

 

[GoinDeep]

Well I for one hope they sit him for a week or two.

Although its nice having his production, I'd rather fight through a week or two without him than risk it being a season long injury that slows him.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

No prob....and just my thoughts on it, but I wouldn't expect him to play this week. He's going to have to be 100% to play against a hard hitting Bears Defense. Andy won't risk it. He's not gonna come out and say he's not playing Sunday...cause I'm sure he still wants the Bears to have to gameplan for him.

Pardon the lack of knowledge on my part - curious, does the MRI showing no ligament damage mean that it's not the high ankle variety of sprain and that it's a minor sprain?

I'm no expert, but IIRC, the MRI simply confirms or rules out the presence of prominent tears or separations in the tissue. It does not objectively confirm a strain or sprain as in "Ah, I can see the strain right here in the MRI." If the ankle is hurting and the MRI is negative for ligament tears, the Doc concludes it's a strain or minor sprain. Rule out the more serious injury and then you are left with the less serious injury as the likely explanation....which is why I suspected VY of playing possum...but that's another thread.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Looked like a season ending injury to me.

Not a chance.There is no way in hell that they would have let him walk off of the field on his own... and back to the locker room on hiis own, with a season ending ankle injury. I have had bad sprains that healed in 2 weeks, that simply could not be walked on directly afterwards. I am not talking about just pain either... I am talking that it isn't stable enough to walk on. This could be no worse than a strain, or a minor sprain.

A few years back McNabb finished a game (with 4 TD's) on a (regular) season ending broken ankle.Just sayin...

The x-rays had already shown no breaks... and an MRI has already shown no serious damage or tears... but anyways....A break can be more tolerable than a really bad sprain. I fractured an ankle and wrestled on it the next day, through the biggest tournament of the year. There was pain... but I could function on it. However, I have had really bad sprains that have put me on my ###, and that I could NOT walk on. I am talking, my ankle looked like a baseball... and the Doctor told me immediately that it was a bad sprain... worse than a break.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

All-Pro running back Brian Westbrook is day-to-day with a strained ankle, an encouraging sign for a Philadelphia Eagles team that can't afford to lose its top offensive player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Doesn't he have more or less chronic troubles with his ankles? Seems this is a yearly occurance. I expect him to be hampered all year. Oh, and by hampered i mean he will produce more or less as he did last year when he was also hampered. It is a harrowing thing to own and start Westbrook. It is also a rewarding thing.

 

[NoFBinLA]

As someone else said, the thing that worries me is watching him walk down the tunnel. He slammed something down in disgust (I thought it was his gloves or something, but someone else said it may have been his helmet). And he looked to slow down and walk with even more of a limp. Obviously at this point everything is speculation on our parts, but his body language changed for the worse once he got into the tunnel. Just my opinion.

I think he was just pissed off that he tried to avoid hurting a teammate only to bang himself up instead. That must have been really frustrating. And it probably hurt more as he walkd on it, hence the crutches later.Well it looks like THAT time of year again - the Westbrook-as-GTD period.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Day to day is good news for Westbrook owners I'm not one of them, but good news nonetheless.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is great news

Being at the game, it was so hard to feel good about things as Westy and, for a brief moment, Donnie Mac were out of the lineup.

 

[sheerterror]

When will these stupid reporters learn the correct injury terminology?

Muscle = strain

Joint/Ligament = sprain

 

[tomarken]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Did Reid discuss how hauser is handling the situation?

 

[barista]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Did Reid discuss how hauser is handling the situation?

Hauser is tied for first... he should weather this storm.

 

[cvnpoka]

Pardon the lack of knowledge on my part - curious, does the MRI showing no ligament damage mean that it's not the high ankle variety of sprain and that it's a minor sprain?

I'm not sure...but I should mention that he said it's a Strain...I think I originally said sprain. Apparently there is a difference between a strain and a sprain. Damned if I know what it is. Maybe someone here does. But again, he said it's not serious, it's day to day, and they are going to race to try and get him ready for Sunday (but I doubt he'll play sunday)

some google research says that a strain is only muscle damage whereas a sprain is ligament damage. nearly all sprains are accompanied by a strain as well.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Doesn't he have more or less chronic troubles with his ankles? Seems this is a yearly occurance. I expect him to be hampered all year. Oh, and by hampered i mean he will produce more or less as he did last year when he was also hampered. It is a harrowing thing to own and start Westbrook. It is also a rewarding thing.

take a lookhttp://news.google.com/archivesearch?rls=c...ve&ct=title

 

[AgentMulder]

Eh just saw this on rotoworld...

Speaking on ESPN Radio 950 in Philadelphia, Brian Westbrook said his injury was "closer to being a high ankle sprain" than anything else.

"But at the same time," Westbrook continued, "A high ankle sprain depends on the person." A high ankle sprain doesn't sound great, but Westbrook sounded to be in good spirits and said he already felt better after starting his rehab on Monday. Westbrook says he'll try to play Sunday if he's close to ready. If the injury is a high ankle sprain, that seems to be a longshot.

 

[RenegadeGM]

CBS Sportsline:

Westbrook says injury is 'painful' Brian Westbrook, RB PHINews: Brian Westbrook limped around without crutches Monday. He could be back to running and slashing this week. The All-Pro running back is day to day with a strained ankle, encouraging news for a Philadelphia Eagles team that can't afford to lose its top offensive player. "My goal is to come back and play as soon as possible," Westbrook said on his radio show on 950 ESPN on Monday night. "I'm going to do everything it takes. It's painful. It's going to be painful. You have ligaments and tendons in there that may have been sprained." Westbrook injured his right ankle while hurdling a teammate on a 2-yard run on the first play of the second quarter of Sunday's 15-6 win over Pittsburgh. He walked to the locker room without help, but didn't return and left the stadium on crutches.Analysis: An MRI revealed no torn ligaments, coach Andy Reid said. "I'm sure it'll be a race to get him ready for Sunday," Reid said. "We'll see how he does. I think we can manage it." The versatile Westbrook led the NFL with a franchise-record 2,104 total yards from scrimmage last season and earned his second trip to the Pro Bowl. Westbrook scored five touchdowns in the first two games this season. He has 161 yards rushing and 46 more receiving. It looks like we're going to have to watch Westbrook's status throughout the week before giving you the high sign to start him. The positive news is that there wasn't a worse injury sustained, such as a high-ankle sprain (unless it is that and the Eagles aren't divulging). Westbrook would remain a must-start if he plays, but Fantasy owners ought to pick up backups Correll Buckhalter and Lorenzo Booker this week in the event that Westbrook is hobbled or out.

 

[Xue]

For those who didn't see the video yet: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80aff5e3

Westbrook "sprained" it this way:

http://www.drchiodo.com/Pages/disorders/im...le_eversion.jpg

It's a moot point whether or not it is a "sprain" or "strain" since those words simply designate what type of connective tissue (muscle/tendon or ligament) was damaged and the MRI showed up nothing.

What they should really call it is "hyper-eversion" so as to not use a term that designates what exactly was damaged, whether or not it shows up on an MRI, in addition to not to confuse it with the more common type of ankle "sprain" called "hyper-inversion".

http://www.eorthopod.com/images/ContentIma...in_causes02.jpg

 

[trader jake]

As a long-time Westbrook owner I would guess that he will NOT play this Sunday (28th) when some owners have him in their line-up but he will play in two weeks when many owners are too afraid to start him. Just my 2 cents.

 

[-baller]

bump for hauser updates.

 

[fflnut]

From rotoworld, so take it for what it's worth:

Speaking on ESPN Radio 950 in Philadelphia, Brian Westbrook said his injury was "closer to being a high ankle sprain" than anything else."But at the same time," he continued, "A high ankle sprain depends on the person." A high ankle sprain doesn't sound great, but Westbrook came off as being in good spirits and said he already felt better after starting his rehab on Monday. Westbrook says he'll try to play Sunday if he's close to ready. If the injury is a high ankle sprain, that seems to be a long shot.

 

[j3r3m3y]

As a long-time Westbrook owner I would guess that he will NOT play this Sunday (28th) when some owners have him in their line-up but he will play in two weeks when many owners are too afraid to start him. Just my 2 cents.

Are there still people who play in leagues that don't allow line-up changes until the players game starts?I have had westy for the last few years and it can be a pain, but it isn't that hard to watch ESPN 10 min before the game starts and figure out who to put the check mark next to.

 

[-baller]

what are buckhalter's prospects vs the mighty chicago d?

 

[Xue]

From rotoworld, so take it for what it's worth:

Speaking on ESPN Radio 950 in Philadelphia, Brian Westbrook said his injury was "closer to being a high ankle sprain" than anything else."But at the same time," he continued, "A high ankle sprain depends on the person." A high ankle sprain doesn't sound great, but Westbrook came off as being in good spirits and said he already felt better after starting his rehab on Monday. Westbrook says he'll try to play Sunday if he's close to ready. If the injury is a high ankle sprain, that seems to be a long shot.

This was already posted above.

 

[joffer]

bump for hauser updates.

please see the Willie Parker thread

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

It's a high ankle sprain so I wouldn't treat this injury like most day to days.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

It's a high ankle sprain so I wouldn't treat this injury like most day to days.

Brian Westbrook said his injury was "closer to being a high ankle sprain" than anything else

 

[trader jake]

As a long-time Westbrook owner I would guess that he will NOT play this Sunday (28th) when some owners have him in their line-up but he will play in two weeks when many owners are too afraid to start him. Just my 2 cents.

Are there still people who play in leagues that don't allow line-up changes until the players game starts?I have had westy for the last few years and it can be a pain, but it isn't that hard to watch ESPN 10 min before the game starts and figure out who to put the check mark next to.

I'm sure there are but the real problem this week is the Eagles play the Sunday night game. Many owners without Buckhalter or Booker sitting on their bench will have to decide between RB X that plays earlier on Sunday afternoon or rolling the dice on Westbrook. IMO that owner should not expect Westbrook to play this weekend. Hopefully we know more before Sunday night but I'm not counting on it.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

This westbrook injury thread is far more interesting as it has updates on westy AND hauser updates.

 

[nflguru]

Andy Reid's press conference:He said Westbrook has an ankle sprain, MRI showed no ligament damage...and it's gonna be day to day. He doesn't expect it to be long term.

Good news. Thanks for the update.

No prob....and just my thoughts on it, but I wouldn't expect him to play this week. He's going to have to be 100% to play against a hard hitting Bears Defense. Andy won't risk it. He's not gonna come out and say he's not playing Sunday...cause I'm sure he still wants the Bears to have to gameplan for him.

This is a good point.. The eagles are playing really well and they will beat chicago without westbrook. The injury did not look good and having westbrook in both leagues I'd like to believe he goes (but it's probably more likely he sits or plays just enough for the eagles to go up 14 in the 1st quarter then they drop in buckhalter)