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Brother hit with Non-Compete form... UPDATE: Unemployment Blocked (2 Viewers)

Hearing horror stories like this make me thankful I work for a large, professional organization.
There is definitely some benefits to a large, well run organization.

However, I think the ideal situation is to work for a small company that is well run and has a great boss.  Sort of like the best form of government is a benevolent dictator, but with both you run the risk of the next person in charge being an evil tyrant.

 
There is definitely some benefits to a large, well run organization.

However, I think the ideal situation is to work for a small company that is well run and has a great boss.  Sort of like the best form of government is a benevolent dictator, but with both you run the risk of the next person in charge being an evil tyrant.
Wat?

 
Sure.  And good post.

I've had that waiver argument tried against me a few times, when I was repping the ER plaintiff (in cases where either the EE in question fell into one of those categories I mentioned meriting enforcement litigation, or, in one notable case, where the client wanted to "send a message" and was sufficiently sophisticated, a regular source of business, and realistic about outcomes that I took the case anyway).  And it never worked for the opposition, mostly because our argument in opposition was always "that other EE who left and went to work for a supposed competitor didn't have access to confidential information" or "that other EE who left and went to work for a supposed competitor didn't appropriate proprietary info," etc.  That puts the EE defendant in a box as to the waiver argument because of significant proof problems.  It's difficult enough to get helpful information from a third party EE & their new third party ER who have nothing to do with the case; it's even more difficult to get them to admit that they did anything wrong.  And the argument has always struck me as a little weak too: "Well, I didn't violate the noncompete.  BUT EVEN IF I DID, Johnny did as well and ER-plaintiff did nothing about it."  I defeated the waiver defense each time it was raised, but I may have just been lucky.     
In my jurisdiction, it's not really a waiver argument.  The burden of proof is on the employer seeking to enforce the non-compete to show that the post-employment restriction is necessary to protect the company's confidential and proprietary information.  The issue is one of access - i.e., because this category of employee is entrusted with access to sensitive confidential and proprietary information, a post-employment competitive restriction is justified (even without evidence of misappropriation - as you're entering into the contractual restriction long before there is any competitive activity).  As such, the primary focus of the litigation is on the confidential nature of the information, the value of that confidential information, and why the non-compete's length, geographic scope, and activity to be restrained is necessary to protect that confidential information.  A key factor in litigating these issues is the extent to which the employer treated the information as confidential and took steps to protect that information.  In a sales context, the employer is typically relying on information contained in client files, buying histories, sales reports, contract details, pricing information, cost detail, marketing plans, etc.  And it's easy enough in many cases through discovery from the employer itself to demonstrate that these other people who left and went into competition received the very same sales reports and price lists and had access to the same client info as the person you're trying to enforce the non-compete against.  And if the employer didn't care to enforce the non-compete against the others who had access to the very same information, then it becomes difficult to argue that the non-compete is contractually necessary to protect the company's confidential information.  Because that burden always lies with the employer.  So it's not about waiver of an otherwise enforceable restriction.  It's about establishing that the restriction wasn't enforceable in the first place.   In other words, the truth comes out.  If the employer is letting employees compete who had access to the very same information, then it's not about protecting the information.  It's about restraining competition for the sake of restraining competition and gaining an advantage in the market.  And in Texas at least, that dog don't hunt.

 
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And it's easy enough in many cases through discovery from the employer itself to demonstrate that these other people who left and went into competition received the vary same sales reports and price lists and had access to the same client info as the person you're trying to enforce the non-compete against.  And if the employer didn't care to enforce the non-compete against the others who had access to the very same information, then it becomes difficult to argue that the non-compete is contractually necessary to protect the company's confidential information. 
I think we're saying the same thing.  The above is one one of the chief reasons why I try to dissuade my clients from filing noncompete enforcement suits.  It's not just in Texas. 

 
Just wanted to say I'm really enjoying the dialogue here, both from the lawyers who are chiming in as experts, and those who have been through similar cases on both sides. I hope this thread provides a nice base of knowledge for anyone going through this in the future. One of the very many thinks I love about this forum. :thumbup: Thanks guys. 

 
I think we're saying the same thing.  The above is one one of the chief reasons why I try to dissuade my clients from filing noncompete enforcement suits.  It's not just in Texas. 
That was one of my favorite arguments when I was trying to bust a non-compete.  My favorite when I was trying to enforce one was this:  Often (but not always), when a company seeks to enforce a non-compete against a former employee, the company will also sue the industry competitor who hired the employee.  After all, if there is sensitive confidential information at issue that has been misappropriated and is now in the possession of the competitor, you need an injunction against them as well.  So the competitor is sued for tortuously interfering with the non-compete, and for misappropriating confidential information.  In these situations, the litigation is really between two industry competitors, and the hiring company is doing everything they can to bust the non-compete.  They'll argue that the information involved in the particular industry at issue isn't confidential at all.  Everyone knows the customers, pricing is publicly available, etc., etc.  This is all in an effort to show that the non-compete you are trying to enforce is not enforceable.  The only problem?  The hiring company has their folks sign non-competes.  In one case, the hiring company had the very employee they had hired away sign a non-compete that was longer in duration and far broader in terms of geographic scope and activity to be restrained.  That was a fun deposition, and a fun bench trial.  I had their non-compete blown up into a giant exhibit and had the CEO twisted up in knots trying to explain why our non-compete couldn't possibly be enforceable but theirs was despite hiring the guy for the identical role.  Not only did the Court enforce the non-compete (albeit for a shorter period of time than the contract provided), but now the CEO was on record arguing that none of the information in their industry was confidential.  Will make it very difficult for them to enforce their own non-competes in the future.

 
Just wanted to say I'm really enjoying the dialogue here, both from the lawyers who are chiming in as experts, and those who have been through similar cases on both sides. I hope this thread provides a nice base of knowledge for anyone going through this in the future. One of the very many thinks I love about this forum. :thumbup: Thanks guys. 
Hope your brother lands on his feet.  I have to think he wasn't long for the company anyway given the new DB in charge.

 
That was one of my favorite arguments when I was trying to bust a non-compete.  My favorite when I was trying to enforce one was this:  Often (but not always), when a company seeks to enforce a non-compete against a former employee, the company will also sue the industry competitor who hired the employee.  After all, if there is sensitive confidential information at issue that has been misappropriated and is now in the possession of the competitor, you need an injunction against them as well.  So the competitor is sued for tortuously interfering with the non-compete, and for misappropriating confidential information.  In these situations, the litigation is really between two industry competitors, and the hiring company is doing everything they can to bust the non-compete.  They'll argue that the information involved in the particular industry at issue isn't confidential at all.  Everyone knows the customers, pricing is publicly available, etc., etc.  This is all in an effort to show that the non-compete you are trying to enforce is not enforceable.  The only problem?  The hiring company has their folks sign non-competes.  In one case, the hiring company had the very employee they had hired away sign a non-compete that was longer in duration and far broader in terms of geographic scope and activity to be restrained.  That was a fun deposition, and a fun bench trial.  I had their non-compete blown up into a giant exhibit and had the CEO twisted up in knots trying to explain why our non-compete couldn't possibly be enforceable but theirs was despite hiring the guy for the identical role.  Not only did the Court enforce the non-compete (albeit for a shorter period of time than the contract provided), but now the CEO was on record arguing that none of the information in their industry was confidential.  Will make it very difficult for them to enforce their own non-competes in the future.
Ha!  Good one.  I had two like that in New York, same deal, but neither reached trial and only one yielded a semi-fun dep.  In my most recent one of these, plaintiff's counsel (from a "megafirm") seemed a little lost that my client, the hiring/subsequent ER, didn't bother with noncompetes of its own (on my rec).  

 
Well it's over... I'll keep it short and elaborate if desired:

- of the 4 creative staff (my bro was head), 1 walked out of initial meetign, 2 walked on deadline day... none will have UI claims 

- DB (owner aka son) kept playing games with verbiage "you are walking out" and brother kept saying he was showing up until he got termination paperwork. 

- DB actually handed him letter of resignation trying to trick him into signing it as termination papers.

- Brother called him on the games saying he's not trying to sue for wrongful term, just wants to be able to claim UI to protect his family while he looks for new job. DB said he won't be getting UI according to his attorney and will fight the claim. 

- DB then told bro to leave the shop. Bro wouldn't without termination paperwork. DB threatened to call cops... they eventually showed and brother asked them if they were instructed to escort him off premises. Yes. Okay that's all I needed.

- Bro Has the video and police calls and has since talked to a labor lawyer who says no judge will deny his claim.... but other guys are screwed. 

- DB now has a design shop with zero creative staff, a huge backlog of work and a growing number of pissed off clients due to deadlines missing (smallish town and bro knows many clients personally and they're texting/calling asking wtf is up).

- Soooo... small victories, DB seems to have at least temporarily crash landed his biz in spite of himself. Surely will lose several clients over missed deadlines while he rebuilds/retrains staff. 
Ask the DB's father if he will fund the company with a plan to pay it back rather than an ownership stake. 

Especially if your bro has a little separate niche than the DB that he can exploit. 

 
Update: 
Employer blocked Unemployment under terms of "violation of company policy" for not signing the noncompete... His attorney is advising him that continued employment IS sufficient "additional compensation" to allow introduction of a noncompete in FL. 

Has a hearing over phone to defend himself and attorney is saying he should be fine handling it by himself without their assistance. :unsure:

 

 
Update: 
Employer blocked Unemployment under terms of "violation of company policy" for not signing the noncompete... His attorney is advising him that continued employment IS sufficient "additional compensation" to allow introduction of a noncompete in FL. 

Has a hearing over phone to defend himself and attorney is saying he should be fine handling it by himself without their assistance. :unsure:

 
yea...no.

sorry, but you get 1 shot at it. Any and all representation is required if not for anything other then to show that he is serious and has a team ready to fight for him.

sorry to hear that its getting messy. 

 
Update: 
Employer blocked Unemployment under terms of "violation of company policy" for not signing the noncompete... His attorney is advising him that continued employment IS sufficient "additional compensation" to allow introduction of a noncompete in FL. 

Has a hearing over phone to defend himself and attorney is saying he should be fine handling it by himself without their assistance. :unsure:

 
I don't do employment.

Don't ever go to any kind of hearing of any kind with a judicial or quasi judicial body without an attorney if you have the ability to have the attorney there.

 
Update: 
Employer blocked Unemployment under terms of "violation of company policy" for not signing the noncompete... His attorney is advising him that continued employment IS sufficient "additional compensation" to allow introduction of a noncompete in FL. 

Has a hearing over phone to defend himself and attorney is saying he should be fine handling it by himself without their assistance. :unsure:

 
I agree he would most likely be fine, but I don't think that translates to it being okay not having his lawyer there.  That's BS.  

 
Lesson here is always have leverage.

I know someone that left their accounting firm and had some clients (all clients they brought in and were there specifically for them) that were planning on leaving for this person's new firm they were starting. When the firm made it clear that they would sue to enforce their very broad non-compete, they were asked when exactly the head of their regional office, who had signed every major project they had done over the previous year, had gotten their license in that state. Of course, the person I know was fairly certain that the office head hadn't gotten their license in the state after moving there and that every single one of those projects/deals was no good. 

Previous firm suddenly decided that they had no desire to enforce the non-compete.

Sorry that your brother has to deal with such a crappy situation icon. It's amazing how much stupidity and arrogance can screw things up. The son almost certainly destroyed his father's business for no real reason other than arrogance and pig-headedness.

 
Update: 
Employer blocked Unemployment under terms of "violation of company policy" for not signing the noncompete... His attorney is advising him that continued employment IS sufficient "additional compensation" to allow introduction of a noncompete in FL. 

Has a hearing over phone to defend himself and attorney is saying he should be fine handling it by himself without their assistance. :unsure:

 
The hearing will likely be recorded and would be discoverable in later litigation between the parties.  If further litigation is possible (perhaps they sue him for taking confidential information or interfering with customer relationships), this hearing could end up having much larger implications than a determination of unemployment compensation. 

 
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Ugh... told brother he should consider having his Atty on the call, cited some stuff from here... said he'd be careful with what he says. I love him, but I think there are certain "high leverage" points in your life you leave to professionals. I hope he reconsiders or that it plays out well for him. 
 

 

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