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**Browns at Raiders**(-4, 36) 4:05 (1 Viewer)

The resistible force meets the moveable object.

Shedeur Sanders was the worst I've seen a QB play this season. Probably have to go back to earl 2024 Skylar Thompson to see that level of incompetence. He looked like he had no idea what he was doing. If I'm the Browns, the game is 40+ rushing attempts regardless of game script. Get Sampson out there for 15 carries if need be. I do think Judkins can have success against this defense, but if they fall behind and start passing, Maxx Crosby is gonna look like peak Reggie White.

I think the Raiders OL is gonna get demolished in this one. Its not just Garrett, I don't think they can block Maliek Collins or Mason Graham either, especially with an undrafted rookie starting at Center with JPJ out.

I think special teams and field position play a big role in this one and could swing it more in this game than any other, as short fields are probably what both offenses need if they are gonna see the endzone much.

Browns-23
Raiders-16
 
Game of the week
First team to 20 wins
Can either team get to 20?
I'll say one of them does...

Raiders- 20

Keebler Elves- 16
 
Game of the week
First team to 20 wins
Can either team get to 20?
I'll say one of them does...

Raiders- 20

Keebler Elves- 16
probably a good call.

Browns scored 20 against the Jets and 31 against the Dolphins.

only two times they've scored 20 plus points this season.
 
Think it's time for PC to retire, this Raiders team looks worse than last season
They have quit on the season by the looks of it.

Probably the best chance they have to win a game the rest of the season
and they look like they have tuned PC out and have quit
 
Think it's time for PC to retire, this Raiders team looks worse than last season
They have quit on the season by the looks of it.

Probably the best chance they have to win a game the rest of the season
and they look like they have tuned PC out and have quit
They have the worst offensive line in the league and, the offensive line coach is even worse.

I'm a Raiders fan, ride-or-die but, I don't believe in pyrrhic victories. At this point they need to lose every game and, put themselves in the driver's seat to take the top QB or trade down for a slew of picks.

I'm good with keeping Spytek, for now and, I'd be open to keeping Carroll but his son Brennan needs to, at the very least, be demoted to the assistant to the Gatorade bottle filler. NOT the assistant Gatorade bottle filler just the assistant TO the Gatorade bottle filler.
 
Think it's time for PC to retire, this Raiders team looks worse than last season
They have quit on the season by the looks of it.

Probably the best chance they have to win a game the rest of the season
and they look like they have tuned PC out and have quit
They have the worst offensive line in the league and, the offensive line coach is even worse.

I'm a Raiders fan, ride-or-die but, I don't believe in pyrrhic victories. At this point they need to lose every game and, put themselves in the driver's seat to take the top QB or trade down for a slew of picks.

I'm good with keeping Spytek, for now and, I'd be open to keeping Carroll but his son Brennan needs to, at the very least, be demoted to the assistant to the Gatorade bottle filler. NOT the assistant Gatorade bottle filler just the assistant TO the Gatorade bottle filler.
I did not know you rooted for the Raiders, that's a big plus for the Raiders fan base :wink:
 
Think it's time for PC to retire, this Raiders team looks worse than last season
They have quit on the season by the looks of it.

Probably the best chance they have to win a game the rest of the season
and they look like they have tuned PC out and have quit
They have the worst offensive line in the league and, the offensive line coach is even worse.

I'm a Raiders fan, ride-or-die but, I don't believe in pyrrhic victories. At this point they need to lose every game and, put themselves in the driver's seat to take the top QB or trade down for a slew of picks.

I'm good with keeping Spytek, for now and, I'd be open to keeping Carroll but his son Brennan needs to, at the very least, be demoted to the assistant to the Gatorade bottle filler. NOT the assistant Gatorade bottle filler just the assistant TO the Gatorade bottle filler.
I did not know you rooted for the Raiders, that's a big plus for the Raiders fan base :wink:
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

Although, it's not so good for my agita.
 
Most sites had the LV Raiders Defense in their top 6-7-8 this week, not much loer than 10th, everyone saw the Browns as a juicy match up
Not so much it seems
Update?
:lmao:
I had to make a roster cut to pick them up because I have Denver on a bye, was gonna just take the zero on Defense but my son has a rule
You start anyone who is "OUT" or on a Bye and you automatically lose that week and I didn't want to go that route

Just one league no biggie but Damn I didn't really see the Browns exploding for 14 this early in the game
1 sack, 1 Int and it's still early but Points Allowed is now off the table
 
Can you feel the tension in this thread?

All the Shedeur lovers and haters just waiting to pounce.

The tension is palpable, like an episode of Scandal.
i hope the kid does well but I'm gonna call it like I see it.
He's getting the Browns down the field when he's not throwing interceptions
Showing some poise early in the game, a week of snaps with the 1st team offense probably did him a lot of good, more than anything else he's gotten to experience thus far

I hope people don't beat up on him too much, the team is partly to blame in all of this, much bigger than the 3rd string QB finally getting a chance as a 5th round rookie
What should anyone actually expect? I don't know of too many other QBs drafted in his range that have started NFL games this season, I'm sure there's a couple but there can't be many
So really people should just sit back and relax and enjoy the journey with him, it's quite a hill he has to climb
But I'm gonna call it like I see it
 
Think it's time for PC to retire, this Raiders team looks worse than last season
They have quit on the season by the looks of it.

Probably the best chance they have to win a game the rest of the season
and they look like they have tuned PC out and have quit
They have the worst offensive line in the league and, the offensive line coach is even worse.

I'm a Raiders fan, ride-or-die but, I don't believe in pyrrhic victories. At this point they need to lose every game and, put themselves in the driver's seat to take the top QB or trade down for a slew of picks.

I'm good with keeping Spytek, for now and, I'd be open to keeping Carroll but his son Brennan needs to, at the very least, be demoted to the assistant to the Gatorade bottle filler. NOT the assistant Gatorade bottle filler just the assistant TO the Gatorade bottle filler.
I did not know you rooted for the Raiders, that's a big plus for the Raiders fan base :wink:
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

Although, it's not so good for my agita.
You made me get anxiety having to look up what agita means :lol:
 
Pete Carroll is collecting $15M per season to coach the Raiders...
Every week it comes up that Carroll is old and will not be back next season...
This is not helping Belichick either in getting back into the NFL, that and his pitiful college program right now
 
Are the Browns really punting on 4th and 3 from the Raiders 41 yard line? I just have Redzone, I don't have the game broadcast.
I see they did punt. 21 yards net. oof
 
Raiders have a way of making opposing rookie… or backup….or just joined the team 3 days earlier…QBs look great. We’re special like that.

Glad the raiders lost.
 
Sanders will win today in his 1st start in the NFL, that's a great thing to put on your resume
However, he's a long way from being a weekly starting QB for the Browns in 2026
He might start a couple more games after today

20 passes and over 200 yds passing, 10 yds per attempt is pretty good
Geno Smith on the other side about the same 200 yds but 37 pass attempts, that's not good
 
For anyone watching, is Geno just not even looking at Bowers? Not enough time to do anything? I don't get the lack of targets his way.
 

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