JackReacher
Footballguy
Anyone watching this? Interested to see if Pryor gets run.
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Browns at Raiders (1 Viewer)
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Weather report.
Bright and sunny.
Bright and sunny.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Where is the atmospheric river?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
What a bust.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
BUMP.
Please pin this thread.
Please pin this thread.
tombonneau
Footballguy
This games so bad it's been blacked out in the Shark Pool.BUMP.Please pin this thread.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Browns in white pants and jerserys on a muddy field.
LB D'Qwell Jackson already looks like a Jackson Pollock painting.
THAT ALONE is worth pinning this thread.
LB D'Qwell Jackson already looks like a Jackson Pollock painting.
THAT ALONE is worth pinning this thread.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The Weeden to Josh Gordon express is roll'n again. 
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Maurile saved us all from even being reminded this game was on - nice job MT.
Under-Pin It.
Under-Pin It.
duaneok66
Footballguy
Classic.This games so bad it's been blacked out in the Shark Pool.BUMP.Please pin this thread.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Gordon had his man beat
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The Oakland DB didn't control that on the way down to the ground.
He has to keep control just as a WR does where they continue the catch.
He has to keep control just as a WR does where they continue the catch.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
By the late 4th quarter, T-Rich's uniform is going to be so black the Raiders might confuse him for one their own players.Browns in white pants and jerserys on a muddy field.LB D'Qwell Jackson already looks like a Jackson Pollock painting.THAT ALONE is worth pinning this thread.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Where is Reece?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Too bad that Phil Dawson's streak ended. Bad field conditions in the muck and mire.
T-Rich is doing good.
Josh Gordon already has a 100 yard receiving game with a score.
Now Mohammad Massaquoi has a nice long YAC catch of 54 yards with a heck of an assist with a nice block by Greg Little that added an extra twenty yards.
Browns D holding the Raiders to only 3 points late in the third.
T-Rich is doing good.
Josh Gordon already has a 100 yard receiving game with a score.
Now Mohammad Massaquoi has a nice long YAC catch of 54 yards with a heck of an assist with a nice block by Greg Little that added an extra twenty yards.
Browns D holding the Raiders to only 3 points late in the third.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
What a massive momentum swing.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Was that Hagg at FS on the TD?
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Total meltdown going on now
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Can't say Weeden won't hang in and take a hit.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
No it was TJ and he wasn't really out of position, it was a single safety deep. Give credit to Carson Palmer who read a run blitz and saw single coverage so he pump faked to the weakside and TJ had to shade to that side of the field so Palmer went and burned Skrine who is responsible and he had decent coverage but he is giving away six inches to Steator.
No its not.Its only one play PERIOD. Nothing but a big play.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Yeah, I was also commenting on the Cribbs return attempt from the -9 and Weeden's two consecutive tipped passes. That third down play to Little was a huge throw.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Shel is having a nice game, coming up with nice stops and just got a timely interception.
Very disappointed that D'Qwell Jackson had a uni change at halftime, now its sparkling clean.
Probably helps not being bogged down with mud but it looks cool and reminds of old mud games.
Very disappointed that D'Qwell Jackson had a uni change at halftime, now its sparkling clean.
Probably helps not being bogged down with mud but it looks cool and reminds of old mud games.
JackReacher
Footballguy
TRich resting on the critical drive?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
He was back in.
They have to rest him some.
He had 15 rushes at halftime so he must be up around or over 20 by now and that is typically a couple more than the NFL average which is in the 16 to 18 range so I don't have any problems with him being rested. Also Monterio was running very hard and effective early on.
They have to rest him some.
He had 15 rushes at halftime so he must be up around or over 20 by now and that is typically a couple more than the NFL average which is in the 16 to 18 range so I don't have any problems with him being rested. Also Monterio was running very hard and effective early on.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Woof 
woof woof
woof woof
JackReacher
Footballguy
Nice Trent - what a tough kid
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
You should probably trade him away in any leagues you own him in.
Attacking straw men is one of your hobbies?True or false: 20-72 against the Raiders defense is subpar for an NFL running back... especially one as gifted as Richardson.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Hmmm, Carson Palmer put up big numbers in a loss. You hardly ever see that.
whoknew
Footballguy
OF COURSE. Its a no brainer. When down 10 with 1 minute left - kick the FG as soon as you are in FG range, regardless of what down it is.Or, just hold the ball and score a meaningless TD with 1 second left.
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Yup. Every Madden player knows this. It's basic clock management, yet somehow, you almost never see NFL teams do it.
Porkchop Express
Footballguy
34 completions by Palmer and two go to Denarius.
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Fantasy Take from this game:
Thanks for the memories Marcel Reece. He played FB quite a bit today. Did also play some slot with Stewart in the backfield.
If street FA RB Stewart is outcarrying him now, hard to imagine McFadden not coming back and handling the load, with Stewart/Goodson CoP and Reece back at FB.
Thanks for the memories Marcel Reece. He played FB quite a bit today. Did also play some slot with Stewart in the backfield.
If street FA RB Stewart is outcarrying him now, hard to imagine McFadden not coming back and handling the load, with Stewart/Goodson CoP and Reece back at FB.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
I don't agree with you guys and this is why.The Raiders were down 10 points with 32 seconds left and faced a 4th and 1 at around the 13/16 yard line.They could go for the FG and on-side or go for the first down and spike the ball or even take a shot at the end zone which is what I would have done and probably what they wanted to do with a check-down for the first down.We saw what happened but if they took the FG they then would be facing the on-side and then if they recoved they would have to drive the length of the field without any timeouts and with less than 32 seconds to get the TD. Basically 55 to 65 yards with no timeouts.But if they got the TD and then got the on-side Janokowski had already nailed a 51 yarder and in warmups they showed him connecting on a 61 yarder. All they would need if they got the on-side would be twenty yards to get in his range so I agree with the call and would make it EVERY TIME if I had Jano in that situation.
nxmehta
Footballguy
Oooh oooh I got this one!'Arschloch said:
It's true.Now it's my turn! True or false: 24-122 against the Chargers defense in week 8 (which is ranked 5th against the run at 91.5 yards/game) is excellent for an NFL running back... even one as gifted as Richardson.I always love this game! Back home we called it "anecdotal evidence".The Raiders spiked the ball with 1 minute to play on the 24 yard line. That's when the FG should have been kicked. We're assuming they recover the on-sides, as the game is over either way if they don't. So, the Raiders get the ball back with about 55 seconds to play, needing 55 yards for a TD to tie.For the sake of argument, assume things go really well from the 24, and they get a 10 yard play, a spike, then a TD right away. That's a minimum of 20 seconds, in the best case. Now, after the on-sides, you've got the ball on your own 45 with 38 seconds to play.Scenario one: 41 yard FG, plus 55 yards in 55 seconds (and with the prevent defense, the other team is probably going to give you the first 20).Scenario two: best case is 20 yards in 38 seconds for a 52 yard FG attempt. Worst case is obviously much less time than that.Pretty clear that scenario one is preferable.'Bracie Smathers said:
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Their was only one scenario. The play was fourth and one with thirty two seconds left. That is it. I'm not sure where you got 55 seconds but the call that people were debating was to either go for the FG with 32 secons remaining and then go for the on-side and try for the tying touchdown or to go for it on fourth and one with thirty-two seconds remaining.In any event it would be impossilbe for the Raiders to kick a FG and recover an on-side kick without running any time off the clock and it would be beyond impossible for them to do so and gain an extra twenty three seconds so I'm not sure of your argument.
No, what we were saying above is you kick the FG at the first opportunity. That's what any Madden player knows, and basic clock management. That would have been on 1st down at the 24 yard line with exactly 1:00 to play. Check the play by play.
Not Sleeping
Footballguy
Bracie should coach in the NFL. He'd fit right in.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
OK, well I still disagree with that decision and here is why.If the Raiders were within easy FG range with 60 seconds remaining you say to kick the FG then go for the on-side and then have a full clock to drive the length of the field.So that breaks down like so:1. 60 seconds left and kick the FG at the 24 with the intention to GET POINTS and SAVE CLOCK.2. Assume the on-side is successful and as soon as the ball is toched the clock runs till the play is whistled dead so assume 5 seconds for the kick to hit an opposing player and for it to bounce and a scrum to develop before the ball is awarded leaving 55 seconds to drive 55 yards for the game tying touchdown. You ASSUME the successful short FG, very reasonable. You ASSUME the successful on-side and considering no alternative a successful on-side has to happen for either choice to succeed so we have to assume this. Finally you ASSUME driving the length of the field without timeouts in 55 seconds for the game tying touchdown.That is the scenario you would choose. I choose the other scenario:1. 60 seconds to drive 24 yards for the touchdown. Why? Its a short field and you have 60 seconds to drive 24 yards. If you cannot drive 24 yards in 60 seconds HOW ON EARTH is it a better choice to drive 55 yards in 55 seconds?2. Assuming the touchdown drive is successful in under 60 seconds and assuming the on-side is also successful your team only needs to make ONE successful pass of 20 yards to attempt the game tying FG.One scenario is to drive 55 yards in approximately 55 seconds for a touchdown the other is to drive 24 yards in under 60 seconds leaving enough time to accomplish a successful on-side and one 20 yard play to attempt the game tying FG.I don't hesitate to take the short field for the touchdown and the long field for the FG even if it means burning time instead of chosing the long field for the touchdown and the short field for a FG attempt.
My way: 41 yard FG, 55 seconds to drive 55 yards.
Your way: 58 seconds to drive 24 yards for the TD, plus 20 yards to drive to attempt a 52 yard FG, plus 10+ seconds to run up and spike the ball before FG attempt, plus 52 yard FG. Total = 58 seconds, minus 10 seconds to spike the ball, or 48 seconds to drive 48 total yards, and 52 yard FG.
So... 55 yards in 55 seconds and a 41 yard FG or 48 yards in 48 seconds (being generous here) and a 52 yard FG. I'll take the shorter FG and single drive every time. This doesn't even account for the fact that if my TD drive stalls, I can throw a hail mary for the tie. You can't try a 72 yard FG for the tie.
Your way: 58 seconds to drive 24 yards for the TD, plus 20 yards to drive to attempt a 52 yard FG, plus 10+ seconds to run up and spike the ball before FG attempt, plus 52 yard FG. Total = 58 seconds, minus 10 seconds to spike the ball, or 48 seconds to drive 48 total yards, and 52 yard FG.
So... 55 yards in 55 seconds and a 41 yard FG or 48 yards in 48 seconds (being generous here) and a 52 yard FG. I'll take the shorter FG and single drive every time. This doesn't even account for the fact that if my TD drive stalls, I can throw a hail mary for the tie. You can't try a 72 yard FG for the tie.
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