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Browns Training Camp Report (1 Viewer)

chris1969

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Someone posted this on Dawgbones.com....

Hey Guys, I went to training camp

yesterday. here's what I noticed. 1

- KWII LOOKS GREAT!!!! He wasn't

favoring the knee at all. 2 - we

look very thin at QB & WR. we

looked very small. Other than Joe

and F. Jackson, known of the

receivers looked over 6 ft. tall.

The guys took alot of time signing

autographs and talking to fans

after words. Bernie, Jim Brown and

Paul Warfield were all there. I

know it was the 1st day but its

still BROWNS FOOTBALL!!!!!!!

I'm not sure if looks are decieving, but we have 2 WR's listed below 6 foot, Northcutt and a FA. The rest are 6' 2" or taller.

I will be going to camp on Friday and will report on what I see.

 
From Fanball

July 27, 2006 11:13 AM

Bentley carted from field

The News

Center LeCharles Bentley, the crown jewel of Cleveland's offseason roster additions, was carted off the field during the team's first training camp practice Thursday. According to the Associated Press, Bentley got tangled up in a pile of players while blocking on a running play. He screamed "No" and remained on the ground for several minutes before his left leg was immobilized and he was carted to the locker room.

Our View

Speculation from different media outlets identifies the injury as possibly the knee or lower leg; one published report indicates that Bentley was fitted for an air cast after being taken from the field, which would imply that the injury is to the lower leg and not the knee. Either way, it's a horrible way for the Browns to open camp and is potentially a devastating blow to the fantasy prospects of Reuben Droughns, not to mention to the Browns' hopes for the upcoming season.

 
alright chris,how much would losing bentley hurt droughns?

i gotta be honest,i really liked reuben before this but i'm not sure now..

 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.

 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin

 
William Green showed up with agent George Jefferson who declared that Green would be "moving on up" to the Brown's starting runner.

 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin
I completely disagree. That's be like saying that the Cardinals wouldn't miss Edge if he tore his ACL next week. That's just ludicrous.ESPN.com is reporting that it is the patellar tendon and that they are doing an MRI to check to see if it is a partial or total tear. It is potentially a season-ending injury.

What a shame if it's a serious injury at all. Poor Browns fans. :(

 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin
I completely disagree. That's be like saying that the Cardinals wouldn't miss Edge if he tore his ACL next week. That's just ludicrous.ESPN.com is reporting that it is the patellar tendon and that they are doing an MRI to check to see if it is a partial or total tear. It is potentially a season-ending injury.

What a shame if it's a serious injury at all. Poor Browns fans. :(
The Browns will miss Bentley no doubt, but I don't think it hurts Dro as much as some are thinking. The first post here was replying to the Dro question.
 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin
I completely disagree. That's be like saying that the Cardinals wouldn't miss Edge if he tore his ACL next week. That's just ludicrous.ESPN.com is reporting that it is the patellar tendon and that they are doing an MRI to check to see if it is a partial or total tear. It is potentially a season-ending injury.

What a shame if it's a serious injury at all. Poor Browns fans. :(
No, it's not like saying that at all. My statement was that whoever is playing center would be an upgrade from 2005. Losing Bentley is worse than having Bentley, but still better than last year.
 
George Jefferson is a FBG poster that comes out of his hidey-hole every August to promote William Green. While even a broken clock is right twice a day, George alas does not enjoy as good of a batting average. :D

:bag: <-- Signed Lee Suggs dynasty owner

 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin
I completely disagree. That's be like saying that the Cardinals wouldn't miss Edge if he tore his ACL next week. That's just ludicrous.
actually it's not like saying that at all.
 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin
I completely disagree. That's be like saying that the Cardinals wouldn't miss Edge if he tore his ACL next week. That's just ludicrous.
actually it's not like saying that at all.
I still disagree. I don't necessarily disagree with Colin because of course an upgrade at Center plus Winslow should be better than last year's OL. But saying that you can't miss what you haven't had is just outright ridiculous. You absolutely CAN miss a major acquisition if they get hurt. That doesn't mean that the unit won't be better than last season, but it absolutely does mean that they probably won't be as good as they could have been.
 
Hmmm..... Let me rephrase....

Will we miss him, yes!!!!

Will our blocking be worse than last year, probably not.

Yes having Bentley in the line-up would have given us one of the more respectable lines in football, but since that's not gonna happen, we're just gonna have to hope for better than last year. I think we can manage that.

 
I'm kinda thinking you can't miss what you didn't have in this case. If Hallen gets the job, I still think he's probably an upgrade over Faine and Shaeffer is still an upgrade over Shelton. So our line is still probably better. The big deal here though is depth. Hallen was also our main back-up at both guard spots and I thought he had a good shot at beating out Coleman for the starting spot. We really gotta hope that Isaac Sowells matches all the hype given to him in the draft now.
Excellent post. I would argue that a line with an upgrade at Center of any sort plus Winslow on board blocking is still better than last year's OL.Colin
One thing worth mentioning, I read more than a few times that with a healthy Winslow, the Browns plan on using a lot of 2 TE sets. Heiden has done a great job the last 2 years straight, and they want to keep him involved. Heiden is a good blocker in his own right, so that should help open things up too!
 
Ok, I went to camp today and this is what I saw. Dennis Northcutt, Frisman Jackson, and JJ all lined up in the #1 spot and all 3 looked great. I'm not a big Northcutt fan but was really suprised at how good he looked. JJ played in the #2 spot more than anything and is a lot faster than what I thought he was. The hoard of running backs pretty much rotated. The only guys that stood out were Terrelle Smith, (They threw to him alot and he caught every ball) and Chris Barclay (A UFA change of pace back that also lined up at reciever). Frye looked fantastic! He threw nothing but hard spirals and a bunch of perfect deep balls! Unfortunately Depth at QB was really weak and look for the Browns to put a call out to Vinnie Testaverde real soon! Hallen looked pretty good at the center spot but I when I looked to see who the back-up center was I was stunned to see BRIELMAIER, BEN UFA Princeton. I'm betting Andruzzi would move over if Hallen got hurt. LOL Speaking of getting hurt, these guys are hitting like it's game day! Someone forgot to tell them it's day 3 of training camp. Wimbley is the real deal and looked great at one on one drills. The best one on one of the day though was KWII vs McGinnest they were going at it like they hated eachother. The first team offense looked polished and had a totally different look. Lots of motions and shifts and a bunch of unfamilar plays. My brother and I both liked a particular running play where a motioning TE winds up lead blocking up the middle along with Terrell Smith. Because of where we were sitting, we couldn't get a great read on the inside LB's but overall both sides of the ball looked good.

:football:

 
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Ok, I went to camp today and this is what I saw. Dennis Northcutt, Frisman Jackson, and JJ all lined up in the #1 spot and all 3 looked great. I'm not a big Northcutt fan but was really suprised at how good he looked. JJ played in the #2 spot more than anything and is a lot faster than what I thought he was. The hoard of running backs pretty much rotated. The only guys that stood out were Terrelle Smith, (They threw to him alot and he caught every ball) and Chris Barclay (A UFA change of pace back that also lined up at reciever). Frye looked fantastic! He threw nothing but hard spirals and a bunch of perfect deep balls! Unfortunately Depth at QB was really weak and look for the Browns to put a call out to Vinnie Testaverde real soon! Hallen looked pretty good at the center spot but I when I looked to see who the back-up center was I was stunned to see BRIELMAIER, BEN UFA Princeton. I'm betting Andruzzi would move over if Hallen got hurt. LOL Speaking of getting hurt, these guys are hitting like it's game day! Someone forgot to tell them it's day 3 of training camp. Wimbley is the real deal and looked great at one on one drills. The best one on one of the day though was KWII vs McGinnest they were going at it like they hated eachother. The first team offense looked polished and had a totally different look. Lots of motions and shifts and a bunch of unfamilar plays. My brother and I both liked a particular running play where a motioning TE winds up lead blocking up the middle along Terrell Smith. Because of where we were sitting, we couldn't get a great read on the inside LB's but overall both sides of the ball looked good.

:football:
good work!
 
Sure would like to know how D'Qwell Jackson is doing in camp
anybody know what the situation is with DQJax and Chaun Thompson - who is running with the 1st team or are they rotating?
 
Like I said we couldn't see much at ILB, but Romeo typically starts vets and makes rookies earn playing time. He did the same thang last year with all the rookies, including Braylon.

 
Posted on the Dawgbones board.

I believe it was copied from Clevelandbrowns.com

PLAYS OF THE DAY: Rookie linebacker D’Qwell Jackson used his forearm to knock Terrelle Smith to the ground after the fullback grabbed a short pass. “I made the catch,” Smith said defiantly after getting up. … Wide receiver Joshua Cribbs put a vicious block on outside linebacker Willie McGinest. Ironically, it happened on the same spot on the field as Jackson’s hit on Smith. … Smith got his turn to deliver a blow when he collided with Clifton Smith following a reception over the middle, causing the linebacker’s helmet to go flying off. “We’ve got a lot of headhunters out there,” Terrelle Smith said. “I can’t be hunted, but I can hunt.” … Safety Brodney Pool and Steve Heiden literally stiff-armed each other to the ground after the tight end made a catch. Defensive backs coach Mel Tucker could be heard yelling at the players to keep each other upright. … Cornerback Leigh Bodden jolted Cribbs hard enough that the receiver was unable to make the catch while running a short square-out pattern. … Quarterback Charlie Frye and wide receiver Dennis Northcutt connected on a 65-yard pass for a touchdown on a deep post route. The ball traveled 45 yards in the air and was perfectly thrown.

 
What's the deal with Droughns? His arraignment date is August 21st. What is the word on him? Will he do time, is he in camp, how will this effect pt?

 
What's the deal with Droughns? His arraignment date is August 21st. What is the word on him? Will he do time, is he in camp, how will this effect pt?
No new news on that but last I heard his girlfriend tried to get the charges dropped several times. With no witnesses the case will likely be dropped in court.
 
Browns Training Camp Log / Day 8

3:10 p.m.

Observations from morning practice ...

QB watch: Watching the Browns backup quarterbacks every day, you wonder how long it will be before a veteran is brought in ... Ken Dorsey looks worse than advertised, but maybe he's just not a great practice player. He deserves at least one exhibition game to show his real stuff ... Derek Anderson's strong arm is impressive, but his lack of mobility and suspect ball security don't bode well as a No. 2 quarterback.

Rookie watch: Three rookie draft picks who immediately look impressive just stepping on the field - No. 1 Kamerion Wimbley, No. 4 Leon Williams and No. 7 Justin Hamilton. In the league's vernacular, they pass the eyeball test.

Watch and learn: If players are watching the work habits of veterans Ted Washington and Willie McGinest, they would learn how to prepare themselves for the season. So far, they are taking no plays off.

Hanging on: Frisman Jackson might have turned the corner. The big receiver usually has a lot of drops in training camp. Not so this year.

Tony Grossi

Cleveland Plain Dealer
 
i'm really not sure why they haven't signed a vet QB yet. even though i've picked on Testaverde, he's got to be better than what they have now. maybe they are playing the waiting game with someone like Collins, trying to get the price down?

also interested if Cribbs will see any time at reciever this year.

 
This report is sponsored by the good folks at

the Cleveland Clinic.

If you've signed with the Browns, we'll get your room ready! :football:

 
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McManamon on the Browns

Browns don't inspire confidence

Low-energy scrimmage play recalls last year's shortcomings

By Patrick McManamon

BEREA - One hates to put too much emotional energy into a scrimmage -- especially one without tackling -- but the Browns did not provide much reason for optimism in their intrasquad work at the stadium Friday night.

In fact, the Browns on offense looked like much the same team that struggled through a 6-10 season a year ago.

Take it piece by piece:

• The offensive line.

This is the group that was going to be so much more improved, but holes for the running game were not there.

Granted, the first team was only on the field for 17 plays and the more a team runs, the better it gets. But with LeCharles Bentley sidelined, the concern is that running inside might be tougher.

The evidence Friday was that running inside will be difficult.

The second-team defense clogged holes, and the first-team offensive line didn't open holes. There was no tackling and Reuben Droughns was whistled down at first contact so it's conceivable to think Droughns could have broken a few tackles.

But judging whether the holes are there isn't difficult, and they weren't.

• The passing game.

Showed the same inconsistency as a year ago. A good play followed by a bad play. A bad decision followed by a good decision.

Charlie Frye completed a couple of passes but should have had his first pass intercepted and threw a ridiculous end zone interception on his last.

Dennis Northcutt caught a couple of passes, but dropped another.

Granted, Braylon Edwards and Joe Jurevicius did not take part, and they are the team's starting receivers.

But there might be times during the year when they will not play. Guys have to play.

They didn't Friday.

• The overall energy.

For some reason it was low. Maybe players are tired from camp. But camp has been taking place in 31 other cities in heat too, so come the regular season nobody is going to give the Browns a break because their camp was hot.

Players talked about having time to straighten things out and not worrying, but that's the same old routine that's been heard since 1999. At some point, people have to perform.

This also brings to mind what Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Fame tackle Joe Greene once said about players who shrug off preseason losses: ``They're the same guys who lose in the regular season.''

The early camp hype, before Bentley's injury, was that the Browns might contend for a .500 record and a playoff spot.

The reality after watching practice and a scrimmage indicates improvement will be difficult, and the record might not be much better than last season's, if at all -- especially when the overall quality of the AFC North is factored in.

It almost looks as if 2005 was a get-back-on-our-feet season and 2006 will be a build-a-foundation-for-2007 season.

As in... Get Frye more experience. Work Edwards and Kellen Winslow back. Continue to build an offensive line. Get Willie McGinest and Ted Washington to hang in for a season. Develop Kamerion Wimbley. Supplement in the offseason with more free agents and another draft. Then compete for real next year.

Wins would be great this season, but the real timetable to expect winning might start a year from now.

That, once again, asks a lot of the team's fans.
 
What is the latest news with Braylon Edwards? I saw that he was not practicing yesterday, has he been practicing regularly? Will he be suited up for week 1?

 

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