Carl Eller's Dead Liver
Footballguy
QB: Matt Schaub
RB: Knowshon Moreno
WR: Mike Sims-Walker
TE: Visanthe Schiancoe
What do you think?
RB: Knowshon Moreno
WR: Mike Sims-Walker
TE: Visanthe Schiancoe
What do you think?
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- Thread starter Carl Eller's Dead Liver
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I would probably include these guys that I'm targetting:QB: Brady, StaffordRB: Greene, DWill, Turner, SJaxWR: Steve Smith (NYG), Fitz, JenningsI agree with Schaub, but I think that Brady has to be in there too. Some guys might think that the loss of Moss will hurt Brady when in fact I think the Pats will do just fine. Their offense is migrating towards more 2-3 TE sets. Tate will be in the mix, but it looks like there will no longer be a clear #1 option aside from Welker. Stafford because I still think he has lots of upside assuming he's healthy after their bye.Greene is starting to play better and is being used more effectively as a complement to LT. He's pounding the ball into the opponent's defense and wearing them down. Moreover he's doing what he's better at rather than catching the ball.DWill (I'm an owner in 2 leagues) is still running well. He's sporting a high average yards per carry so I think at some point this offense is going to stabilize. The other possibility is that he gets traded to the Packers by next week!
SJax hasn't done much else aside from run well. Bradford looks legit and unfortunately they lost their #1 WR so they will stumble again. This team has lots of potential once their WRs practice more with Bradford. I think teams will focus more on the pass and SJax will burn them.Steve Smith (NYG) is no longer the #1 WR in NYG. He's getting the short passes again but even less this year. He's going to be consistent so he's worth a shot.Fitz is consistent. Look at his numbers but you can't expect him to put up elite WR1 numbers this year.Jennings is not an elite WR1, but the coaches are trying to get him more involved. Buy him low now.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Jennings worked out for me end of last year after many frsutrating weeks. I traded FOR him last year too. The hope here is that Finley being out re-directs the offense back to Jennings' breakaway ability. I would trade for Jennings but it may be hard to do it for fair value, i.e. the owner who has him might just demand value higher than just what he's been producing so far, he may not be so cheap as thought. Everyone's aware of what he can do (except for McCarthy so far apparently).
I see Jennings as the best buy low out there...problem is, his owner would have to be REALLY frustrated to sell him for what you are going to want to pay.
I have an offer of Harvin and Lance Moore out there right now for him, which right now could even be viewed as overpaying.
I have an offer of Harvin and Lance Moore out there right now for him, which right now could even be viewed as overpaying.
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Blick
Footballguy
Wow. I would jump all over that if I was the Jennings owner. Harvin > Jennings
Northbound Train
Footballguy
I find buying low to be a real tough go when playing with sharks...most guys that draft say a Jenning relatively high are not going to part with him just yet.
I find myself holding out on early season busts if you've spent a top 5-6 pick...you're not likely to get what you paid for him so sometimes I'll just sit and wait and plant a Jennings on the pine until he gains some value.
I'd find it much easier to sell high
I find myself holding out on early season busts if you've spent a top 5-6 pick...you're not likely to get what you paid for him so sometimes I'll just sit and wait and plant a Jennings on the pine until he gains some value.
I'd find it much easier to sell high
If you are looking to buy a dolphins back, the longer you wait the better@GB, Pitt, @Cinci, @BalBy the time week 10 rolls around, they should be pretty cheap. Buf and Det look tasty in weeks 15-16 though
PhilLynott
Footballguy
I would guess that Matthews of SD could be a but low. Many owners drafted him highly and he hasn't performed. Just a thought but he may be available.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Got offered both of 'em for MBIII. But it's a TD-only league so it really just makes for a
decision each week and I have to cut someone else as well.-QG
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
This thread is all wrong for so many reasons. The OP starts a worthy topic of some players he thinks are buy lows. He doesn't offer a single compelling reason why they are buy lows. Just throws out the names, presumably of special interest to him. There is no ryhme or reason why these guys stand out.
At least give us a bullet list of factors like strength of schedule issues, relative declining or improving health, increased role on offense, playoff schedules, etc.
The rest of the posts are poorly veiled WDIS and WDIT replies. This one is worthy of being moved to the AC forum, for lack of relevant FF discussion.
At least give us a bullet list of factors like strength of schedule issues, relative declining or improving health, increased role on offense, playoff schedules, etc.
The rest of the posts are poorly veiled WDIS and WDIT replies. This one is worthy of being moved to the AC forum, for lack of relevant FF discussion.
Cassius
Footballguy
The OP probably wrote his post with the assumption that those interested in reading it have been following fantasy football this year.This is the Shark Pool, son.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
I did the same exact thing last week so dont feel bad.
I am hoping he thinks that way...I don't make a habit of making trash offers, even buy lows. I have to believe that Jennings will get his and return to an average, in order to do so, it means many big games ahead.So to me at least...even at the expense of a receiver who is in the same general grouping as Harvin, I would see using that chip to get Jennings as buying low. I mean, that might be the more interesting discussion as it relates to some of these guys...what IS buying low?Blick said:
I agree that this thread went south quickly with all the ACF posts, but ill throw in my two cents.
QB:
Eli Manning - I liked him more than most coming into the season, and im sticking by it. With Nicks giving Manning a go to guy(no disrespect to Smith, but he is more of a possession guy)Manning is ready to build on his career high numbers from last year. He will finish in the top 10 QB's this year, and can be had a backup QB price.
RB:
Marshawn Lynch - Alot of his owners lost hope when he went to Seattle and not GB. Lynch is alot more talented than people are giving him credit for. Even though Seattle is not the best situation, it is far better than Buffalo. Not to mention a happier Lynch equals a more productive Lynch, and Lynch is thrilled to be out of Buffalo. I am in no way concerned about Forsett, Lynch will likely finish top 10 in carries from here on out. Even thoguh i suspect Forsett will be used on 3rd downs, Lynch has very good hands, and will add a few receptions per game. Lynch will make a very good #2 RB from here on out.
Felix Jones - Maybe a week too late, but im sure there are still some owners out there that are still skeptical and will look to trade him on a "high". His talent fits perfectly into the Cowboys offense. They dont exactly have a grind it out offense, and rarely see 8 in the box. This means Jones wont need to carry the ball 20+ times a game, and will have plenty of room to work with when he does touch the ball.
WR:
Greg Jennings - The problem hasnt been Jennings, but the way he was being used. He has pretty much been used as a deep threat, and you are not going to score well on a weekly basis when most of your targets are 20+ yards down field. With Finley out, and the Packers saying they are going to find a way to get him the ball more, Jennings should put up top 15 WR numbers from here on out. It wasnt too long ago that Jennings lead the league in YAC, if the Packers can get him the ball more on quicker passes, Jennings has a shot at being a #1 WR again.
Kenny Britt - No question he has talent, but has had a hard time staying out of Fishers dog house. He looks like he is out of the doghouse, and ready to put up WR2 numbers from here on out.
TE:
Jason Witten - Who are the people saying his best days are behind him? If you can find an owner who thinks that, take advantage. He is only 28, and is one of the most talented TE's in the game. Even though there are alot of mouths to feed in Dallas and they keep him in to block, that has never stopped him from putting up big numbers before.
QB:
Eli Manning - I liked him more than most coming into the season, and im sticking by it. With Nicks giving Manning a go to guy(no disrespect to Smith, but he is more of a possession guy)Manning is ready to build on his career high numbers from last year. He will finish in the top 10 QB's this year, and can be had a backup QB price.
RB:
Marshawn Lynch - Alot of his owners lost hope when he went to Seattle and not GB. Lynch is alot more talented than people are giving him credit for. Even though Seattle is not the best situation, it is far better than Buffalo. Not to mention a happier Lynch equals a more productive Lynch, and Lynch is thrilled to be out of Buffalo. I am in no way concerned about Forsett, Lynch will likely finish top 10 in carries from here on out. Even thoguh i suspect Forsett will be used on 3rd downs, Lynch has very good hands, and will add a few receptions per game. Lynch will make a very good #2 RB from here on out.
Felix Jones - Maybe a week too late, but im sure there are still some owners out there that are still skeptical and will look to trade him on a "high". His talent fits perfectly into the Cowboys offense. They dont exactly have a grind it out offense, and rarely see 8 in the box. This means Jones wont need to carry the ball 20+ times a game, and will have plenty of room to work with when he does touch the ball.
WR:
Greg Jennings - The problem hasnt been Jennings, but the way he was being used. He has pretty much been used as a deep threat, and you are not going to score well on a weekly basis when most of your targets are 20+ yards down field. With Finley out, and the Packers saying they are going to find a way to get him the ball more, Jennings should put up top 15 WR numbers from here on out. It wasnt too long ago that Jennings lead the league in YAC, if the Packers can get him the ball more on quicker passes, Jennings has a shot at being a #1 WR again.
Kenny Britt - No question he has talent, but has had a hard time staying out of Fishers dog house. He looks like he is out of the doghouse, and ready to put up WR2 numbers from here on out.
TE:
Jason Witten - Who are the people saying his best days are behind him? If you can find an owner who thinks that, take advantage. He is only 28, and is one of the most talented TE's in the game. Even though there are alot of mouths to feed in Dallas and they keep him in to block, that has never stopped him from putting up big numbers before.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Sorry about that. Couldn't help myself with the Williams/Brown thing
In terms of the original topic, assuming that most of the folks in a position to grab buy-low type players are teams that have gotten a fast start (4-1 or at least 3-2) these teams should be looking to what the last 3 weeks look like. Surely they did this ahead of the draft but the circumstances have changed. The Chiefs for example are a much less exciting opponent to see than they were expected to be at the start.Speaking of the Chiefs, Charles is probably a good buy low type of candidate. Jones is hurting him for sure but it's logical to figure that the younger guy's role will expand over the course of the year (similar to what happened to Jones last year). Charles was a mid-round pick for a lot of folks and though he's put up decent yards, he hasn't found the end-zone. Early picks, like say Jennings, are probably a bit tougher to pry away as there's a pride factor at work - a desire to get value back. But somebody that was picked in rounds 4 to 6? These are guys who began the year as fantasy starters and have found the bench for one reason or the other. I'll throw another guy out there. Desean Jackson. His numbers suffer with Kolb it seems, but if you have faith that Vick will take the job back then you'll have a good producer for the fantasy playoffs.-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
From a strategy standpoint I find that sometimes when targeting player offering a multiple-choice scenario gives you a better chance of getting the deal done as it gives the other guy a sense of control. "I'll trade you one of blank1 or blank2 and one of blank3 or blank4 for buy low guy".
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