Buy Low RBs for 2011 (1 Viewer)

[Yellow Line is Unoffcial]

<!--quoteo(post=12868591:date=Jan 30 2011, 02:55 PM:name=Carolina Hustler)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carolina Hustler @ Jan 30 2011, 02:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12868591"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12858795:date=Jan 26 2011, 11:57 PM:name=Ministry of Pain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ministry of Pain @ Jan 26 2011, 11:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12858795"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=12858715:date=Jan 26 2011, 11:27 PM:name=BigJim®)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigJim® @ Jan 26 2011, 11:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12858715"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I don't see Chris Ivory mentioned (could have missed it). Do people see him as a buy low, or a sell high? My first thought is his late season injury decreased his value. But it might impact how the Saints manage the RB situation... undrafted FA, didn't make it through the season, etc. But he sure looked good early, good YPC.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Big time buy low. Not sure the Saints wouldn't draft someone if Thomas leaves and Bush is sent packing but I like what Ivory was doing this year. He is going to play somewhere if not NO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->If Thomas leaves, I'd expect the Saints to grab another RB, probably not on day one, but I couldn't imagine them going in to 2011 w/ Bush and Ivory..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->And Bush may not even be there as well.

Bush will be a Saint PT won't

 

[saintfool]

Bush will be a Saint PT won't

bush has said he'll take a pay cut to stay with the saints but it may be far more drastic a cut than he's prepared for. otherwise, i wouldn't be so confident of reggie's ability to remain a saint.

 

[Longshot88]

<!--quoteo(post=12858586:date=Jan 26 2011, 09:42 PM:name=wiscstlatlmia)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wiscstlatlmia @ Jan 26 2011, 09:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12858586"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So all you guys talking up grant...have you ever watched the guy in a packers uniform? If you have you woulda noticed the fact that they never go to him at the goal line and the packers staff(evident by there playcalling) have no confidence in the guy. Those numbers he put up were a product of his situation rather than what he did. Starks looks like a better talent IMO but, to each his own.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->You don't know what you're talking about. Simple as that.

go ask packers fans what they think of grant

Why would I do that? I've seen every Packers game since Grant joined the team. I know what I've seen.

then you would have noticed how he sucks on the goal line and they dont trust him on important situations.Dont get me wrong, hes great against nickel and dime formations .

When people start saying things like a player "sucks" as their argument and pretending to know whether a coaching staff "trusts" a player, I just tune them out going forward. Because, as I mentioned earlier, you just simply don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not saying I KNOW anything....I dont think many people on this site actually know anything other than what they see...From what ive seen, He sucks on the goal line. Hes not a bad runner but I think his stats are based off of situation rather than talent.I mean im pretty sure its a fact they would do a lot of playaction on the goal line(It was laughable how many TDs Kuhn got in those years at the goal line). I dont know, you can look at the stats for yourself. I was a grant owner in 2008 and 2009 and was constantly frustrated because of them going away from him.He doesnt play on 3rd down and they do not go to him on the goaline. these are facts arnt they?You do not have to be inside the organization to come to this realization.

He had 1,250 yards and 11 TDs in his last full season. That's the main fact I'm interested in. And John Kuhn had two rushing TDs combined in 2008 and 2009, 4 more receiving. Laughable? If you say so.

I just dont understand the facination with Grant, IMO he has allways been a mediocre back at best , the most impressive thing i ever saw grant do was hop off the field on one foot after his injury. Clearly the grant backers have him stashed on teams hoping he will reclaim the job.

 

[No Way Jose]

Darren Sproles: Don't think that he will be in SD next year and with the right team he could be nice. I'd like to see him end up on the Colts, they need a return man and someone else for Peyton to play with. Someone will have to pay to get him and that makes me think he will get used. Of course if he stays in SD, please disregard this post.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

<!--quoteo(post=12858586:date=Jan 26 2011, 09:42 PM:name=wiscstlatlmia)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wiscstlatlmia @ Jan 26 2011, 09:42 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=12858586"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So all you guys talking up grant...have you ever watched the guy in a packers uniform? If you have you woulda noticed the fact that they never go to him at the goal line and the packers staff(evident by there playcalling) have no confidence in the guy. Those numbers he put up were a product of his situation rather than what he did. Starks looks like a better talent IMO but, to each his own.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->You don't know what you're talking about. Simple as that.

go ask packers fans what they think of grant

Why would I do that? I've seen every Packers game since Grant joined the team. I know what I've seen.

then you would have noticed how he sucks on the goal line and they dont trust him on important situations.Dont get me wrong, hes great against nickel and dime formations .

When people start saying things like a player "sucks" as their argument and pretending to know whether a coaching staff "trusts" a player, I just tune them out going forward. Because, as I mentioned earlier, you just simply don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not saying I KNOW anything....I dont think many people on this site actually know anything other than what they see...From what ive seen, He sucks on the goal line. Hes not a bad runner but I think his stats are based off of situation rather than talent.I mean im pretty sure its a fact they would do a lot of playaction on the goal line(It was laughable how many TDs Kuhn got in those years at the goal line). I dont know, you can look at the stats for yourself. I was a grant owner in 2008 and 2009 and was constantly frustrated because of them going away from him.He doesnt play on 3rd down and they do not go to him on the goaline. these are facts arnt they?You do not have to be inside the organization to come to this realization.

i forgot to add spencer havner had 3 more of those goaline tds recieving inside the 5(in 2009). not to mention the 5 other rushing touchdowns on the goaline rodgers had(also in 2009).

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Updated

Allen Bradford

Chris wells

CJ Spiller

Darren Mcfadden

Jonathan Stewart

Montario Hardesty

Joseph Addai

 

[DexterDew]

how is McFadden a "buy low" RB?

i can support the rest of the list (Sans Bradford)

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

how is McFadden a "buy low" RB? i can support the rest of the list (Sans Bradford)

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/viewrankings.php?viewpos=rb&type=redraft&howrecent=90i think he has a pretty high ceiling and 12 seems low to me... definite buy low if you can get him in the late 2nd/ early 3rd round.

 

[DexterDew]

i didn't see that list... i would bump him up at least 2 or 3 spots for redraft, and there is no way he is 12 in dynasty

 

[bulger2holt]

i wouldn't touch Beanie with a ten foot pole. Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice.......

 

[Harjiran]

i wouldn't touch Beanie with a ten foot pole. Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice.......

... won't get fooled again?I'm buying low on Cedric Benson.

 

[Matt's Eagles]

How about these guys?

Ryan Grant

Marshawn Lynch

bernard Scott

 

[loose circuits]

Based off having no success selling either of these guys, I'm going to say Shonn Greene and Knowshon Moreno. everyone seems to be thinking that Denver is going to sign a back and they might, just Moreno is still likely going to be the 1A regardless of who they sign. If you look at Deangelo or Ronnie's career they haven't had many outstanding seasons and majority of their seasons are similar or worse than what Knowshon has done in his 2 years. Not sure why Denver would bring in a veteran back that has a inconsistent track record and give them Moreno's job.

Greene is finally going to get the majority of the work, but people seem to think Powell is going to take his job. I don't think that is going to happen overnight and it's very possible he tears it up and has Turner like production- 1200 rushing 10 td's seems very likely IMIO

 

[Go deep]

Based off having no success selling either of these guys, I'm going to say Shonn Greene and Knowshon Moreno. everyone seems to be thinking that Denver is going to sign a back and they might, just Moreno is still likely going to be the 1A regardless of who they sign. If you look at Deangelo or Ronnie's career they haven't had many outstanding seasons and majority of their seasons are similar or worse than what Knowshon has done in his 2 years. Not sure why Denver would bring in a veteran back that has a inconsistent track record and give them Moreno's job.

Greene is finally going to get the majority of the work, but people seem to think Powell is going to take his job. I don't think that is going to happen overnight and it's very possible he tears it up and has Turner like production- 1200 rushing 10 td's seems very likely IMIO

Williams has never had a season where he averaged less than 4.1 YPC. Moreno is averaging 4.0 so far in his career. Williams is averaging 5.0, and we know that he is capable of being a top 5 RB. I dont think the same can be said about Moreno. Assuming Williams is signed by the Broncos, he is the starter. Im sure Moreno will see his share of touches, but he would be playing 2nd fiddle.

 

[footballsavvy]

Based off having no success selling either of these guys, I'm going to say Shonn Greene and Knowshon Moreno. everyone seems to be thinking that Denver is going to sign a back and they might, just Moreno is still likely going to be the 1A regardless of who they sign. If you look at Deangelo or Ronnie's career they haven't had many outstanding seasons and majority of their seasons are similar or worse than what Knowshon has done in his 2 years. Not sure why Denver would bring in a veteran back that has a inconsistent track record and give them Moreno's job.

Greene is finally going to get the majority of the work, but people seem to think Powell is going to take his job. I don't think that is going to happen overnight and it's very possible he tears it up and has Turner like production- 1200 rushing 10 td's seems very likely IMIO

Williams has never had a season where he averaged less than 4.1 YPC. Moreno is averaging 4.0 so far in his career. Williams is averaging 5.0, and we know that he is capable of being a top 5 RB. I dont think the same can be said about Moreno. Assuming Williams is signed by the Broncos, he is the starter. Im sure Moreno will see his share of touches, but he would be playing 2nd fiddle.

Everyone keeps saying Williams to Denver but it doesn't make sense to me. Moreno ran with authority last year when he came back healthy. He is a better receiver than Williams. According to ProFootballFocus he is one of the best tackle-breakers in the NFL. The Broncos run blocking sucked and Moreno did well with what he had. His only knock is his inability to stay healthy. For that reason alone I could see Denver bringing in another back, but not Williams. If Restricted, Williams will cost a high tender (1st and 3rd round picks) plus big salary or he will be unrestricted and Denver would have to pay him a boatload due to competition from other teams. Denver has way too many needs to to get in on the DeAngelo bidding. Look for them to sign someone like Brown, Ricky, Jerome Harrison, Kevin Smith, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they just go in with the backups they have though.

 

[loose circuits]

Based off having no success selling either of these guys, I'm going to say Shonn Greene and Knowshon Moreno. everyone seems to be thinking that Denver is going to sign a back and they might, just Moreno is still likely going to be the 1A regardless of who they sign. If you look at Deangelo or Ronnie's career they haven't had many outstanding seasons and majority of their seasons are similar or worse than what Knowshon has done in his 2 years. Not sure why Denver would bring in a veteran back that has a inconsistent track record and give them Moreno's job.

Greene is finally going to get the majority of the work, but people seem to think Powell is going to take his job. I don't think that is going to happen overnight and it's very possible he tears it up and has Turner like production- 1200 rushing 10 td's seems very likely IMIO

Williams has never had a season where he averaged less than 4.1 YPC. Moreno is averaging 4.0 so far in his career. Williams is averaging 5.0, and we know that he is capable of being a top 5 RB. I dont think the same can be said about Moreno. Assuming Williams is signed by the Broncos, he is the starter. Im sure Moreno will see his share of touches, but he would be playing 2nd fiddle.

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Williams has the skills there is no doubt, but there are more issues at play:Is Denver 1 RB away from owning the AFC West? If not, why would you pay 28 year old Deangelo the type of money is going to command on the open market? Is it smart to use free agent dollars at RB when you have needs along the defensive line as well as many other areas in your team. Especially considering you have invested a 1st round pick at the position? Is Deangelo even going to be available?

On a side note, Moreno made some strides in his 2nd year. He showed his skills in the passing game and averaged 10 yards per catch

 

[doubletrouble]

Why is everyone giving a free pass to J. Best? Kevin Smith had injuries and everyone was ripping him a new one. Best rushing avg is worse than Smith's last year...but some how it's all b/c of his toes, poor O-Line, no offense help, blah blah blah....not a believer in Bust as you can tell.

I called it!!!

 

[Concept Coop]

Why is everyone giving a free pass to J. Best? Kevin Smith had injuries and everyone was ripping him a new one. Best rushing avg is worse than Smith's last year...but some how it's all b/c of his toes, poor O-Line, no offense help, blah blah blah....not a believer in Bust as you can tell.

I called it!!!

Not really. He was playing well and putting up big points. He just got hurt...you didn't predict that.

 

[strong]

very surprised in hindsight how little fred jackson got mentioned here... for the most part, i'd imagine jackson owners are near the top of the standings since his was so cheap going into the year.