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Buy Low / Sell High (1 Viewer)

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Week 1 Buy Low / Sell High

Buy Low:

- DeShaun Foster (CAR)

- Reuben Droughns (CLE)

- Jake Plummer (DEN)

Sell High:

- Drew Bennett (TEN)

- Frank Gore (SF)

- Michael Vick (ATL)

- Eric Moulds (HOU)

- Donte' Stallworth (PHI)

- Kellen Winslow (CLE)

 
Monse said:
Week 1 Buy Low / Sell HighBuy Low:- DeShaun Foster (CAR)- Reuben Droughns (CLE)- Jake Plummer (DEN)Sell High:- Drew Bennett (TEN)- Frank Gore (SF)- Michael Vick (ATL)- Eric Moulds (HOU)- Donte' Stallworth (PHI)- Kellen Winslow (CLE)
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I agree with the Buy Low list and most of the Sell High except for Gore and Stallworth. I think they are going to be legit starters all season long barring injury (which is a major concern with Gore).
 
I wouldn't be selling Stallworth. Now that he's out of Horn's shadow, he'll be a monster.

I'd be selling Gonzo high though.

 
Buy Low...

Seahawks (Hasselbeck; D Jackson; Burleson- AZvsSF game illustrated the weak defenses in NFC West are still very much present...AZ and SF each play Seattle 2x)

Detroit (R Williams; Jon Kitna- Martz offense will gel given some time; also get to play GBx2)

Jake Delhomme (Will rise to meet the mean)

Lee Evans (Losman looked capable of putting up decent numbers...plays in AFC East filled with weaker d's)

Sell High...

Travis Henry (Still locked in RBBC...goal line opp's are main reason for his numbers in week 1)

Donte Stallworth (A large amount of his points came from blown coverages)

Kellen Winslow (His QB play and experience will limit his production moving forward)

Jets (L. Coles; Chad Pennington- won't play Tennessee again this year; I'm projecting Tenn D to be bottom 5)

Kurt Warner (Great play when healthy...confident he won't make it through the season without injury)

 
I would buy Cadillac low. The whole team bit the big one this week, and I bet they come back strong next week.

Plus, he had 5 receptions, so he seems to be getting more involved in the passing game. Maybe the goal line looks will be there as well.

 
fflnut said:
bergs101 said:
fflnut said:
Not sure if I'm being overly optimistic, but I think Pepper is a good buy low.
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I'm assuming you mean Culpepper (or in IDP....Peppers)?
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Sorry - Culpepper.
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My negative on Culpepper is that he appeared to lack the necessary leg strength to push off in the second half (and I believe that his injury occurred to his right leg, or plant leg). I suspect that in games that he doesn't have to throw alot he could do better (mainly in regard to the INTs).
 
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Maybe I'm just not seeing the writing on the wall, but I don't think Stallworth will be an every week fantasy starter. If a guy in your league beleives he is, than I think he's a great sell high.

I'm curious why 'sell high' for Vick? First of all, you probably drafted him at a bargain value, and he had a very nice game against a very good defense. Given the low expectations of most owners and his history for up and down performances, do you really think one would get good trade value after one game?

Is it just the assumption that he will get hurt? Even if that's the case, he seems like a better sell high candidate if he strings together 2-3 good games to start of the year.

 
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One thing to keep in mind when decided to buy or sell is what the player's schedule looks like in the upcoming weeks. For example, I agree that given Gore's health history he's a great sell high candidate. However, I also see that he has St. Louis on the schedule next week. Sooooo, maybe one more week with Frank will be a good idea.

 
Pole Cat said:
One thing to keep in mind when decided to buy or sell is what the player's schedule looks like in the upcoming weeks. For example, I agree that given Gore's health history he's a great sell high candidate. However, I also see that he has St. Louis on the schedule next week. Sooooo, maybe one more week with Frank will be a good idea.
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If your intention is to sell high, I don't see the point in waiting another week since he just had a HUGE week. Also, keep in mind that Seattle's running game got slapped around like a red-headed stepchild today by the Rams.
 
JetsWillWin said:
Pole Cat said:
One thing to keep in mind when decided to buy or sell is what the player's schedule looks like in the upcoming weeks. For example, I agree that given Gore's health history he's a great sell high candidate. However, I also see that he has St. Louis on the schedule next week. Sooooo, maybe one more week with Frank will be a good idea.
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If your intention is to sell high, I don't see the point in waiting another week since he just had a HUGE week. Also, keep in mind that Seattle's running game got slapped around like a red-headed stepchild today by the Rams.
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Rams? Lions? What's the difference?
 
joey said:
JetsWillWin said:
Pole Cat said:
One thing to keep in mind when decided to buy or sell is what the player's schedule looks like in the upcoming weeks. For example, I agree that given Gore's health history he's a great sell high candidate. However, I also see that he has St. Louis on the schedule next week. Sooooo, maybe one more week with Frank will be a good idea.
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If your intention is to sell high, I don't see the point in waiting another week since he just had a HUGE week. Also, keep in mind that Seattle's running game got slapped around like a red-headed stepchild today by the Rams.
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Rams? Lions? What's the difference?
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I forgot to take my medicine. :wall:
 
JetsWillWin said:
Pole Cat said:
One thing to keep in mind when decided to buy or sell is what the player's schedule looks like in the upcoming weeks. For example, I agree that given Gore's health history he's a great sell high candidate. However, I also see that he has St. Louis on the schedule next week. Sooooo, maybe one more week with Frank will be a good idea.
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If your intention is to sell high, I don't see the point in waiting another week since he just had a HUGE week. Also, keep in mind that Seattle's running game got slapped around like a red-headed stepchild today by the Rams.
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I think people are wary of making deals after Week 1 for players who don't have a history of success. Additionally, many will look at Gore's output and say, "oh, it was against Arizone," and blow it off. Another week will solidify him and the offers will improve.
 
FFdork said:
Maybe I'm just not seeing the writing on the wall, but I don't think Stallworth will be an every week starter. If a guy in your league beleives he is, than I think he's a great sell high.I'm curious why 'sell high' for Vick? First of all, you probably drafted him at a bargain value, and he had a very nice game against a very good defense. Given the low expectations of most owners and his history for up and down performances, do you really think one would get good trade value after one game? Is it just the assumption that he will get hurt? Even if that's the case, he seems like a better sell high candidate if he strings together 2-3 good games to start of the year.
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Well for me at least is that Vick is still at best a QB2 on my team which he would probably be on most teams. The QB2 role for me is...#1 Be able to put up decent numbers every week if QB1 gets hurt.#2 DEFINATELY PUT UP GOOD NUMBERS ON QB1'S BYE WEEK#3 Be able to replace QB1 when he has good match-ups and QB1 has bad ones#4 stay healthy, the last thing I want is an injury prone back-up, I'm kinda like the Browns and Suggs that way.#5 Not have any threat of QB controversyThe problem is, I know Vick will have really great games and really poor games, but I have no idea when either will happen, let alone figure how he'll do QB1's bye week. I can't figure out matchups, as the talent of the opposing defense seems to have little effect on Vick's production. Since he's a running QB, he could get hurt anytime and Having Matt Schuab behind him to take over if he has a meltdown doesn't help either.
 
After looking solid tonight on national TV, if I owned Brandon Jacobs, I would def. try to move him to a potentially nervous Tiki owner.

 
chris1969 said:
FFdork said:
Maybe I'm just not seeing the writing on the wall, but I don't think Stallworth will be an every week starter. If a guy in your league beleives he is, than I think he's a great sell high.

I'm curious why 'sell high' for Vick? First of all, you probably drafted him at a bargain value, and he had a very nice game against a very good defense. Given the low expectations of most owners and his history for up and down performances, do you really think one would get good trade value after one game?

Is it just the assumption that he will get hurt? Even if that's the case, he seems like a better sell high candidate if he strings together 2-3 good games to start of the year.
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Well for me at least is that Vick is still at best a QB2 on my team which he would probably be on most teams. The QB2 role for me is...#1 Be able to put up decent numbers every week if QB1 gets hurt.

#2 DEFINATELY PUT UP GOOD NUMBERS ON QB1'S BYE WEEK

#3 Be able to replace QB1 when he has good match-ups and QB1 has bad ones

#4 stay healthy, the last thing I want is an injury prone back-up, I'm kinda like the Browns and Suggs that way.

#5 Not have any threat of QB controversy

The problem is, I know Vick will have really great games and really poor games, but I have no idea when either will happen, let alone figure how he'll do QB1's bye week. I can't figure out matchups, as the talent of the opposing defense seems to have little effect on Vick's production. Since he's a running QB, he could get hurt anytime and Having Matt Schuab behind him to take over if he has a meltdown doesn't help either.
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I get what you're saying, but that's also why I don't see him as a sell high candidate yet. Your thought process, especially the parts I put in bold, are why it will be hard to get good trade value for him in most cases (maybe a panicky Trent Green owner would pull the trigger). If he starts to show some consistency he would be a more solid sell high guy because of the injury risk.I wouldn't worry much about Shuab. It would take quite a meltdown for him to supplant a healthy Vick. There's no way they're keeping both of them long term, and, for better or worse, Vick is that franchise right now.

 
I'd add McGahee to that buy low list. The Buff. run game actually looked ok on the road versus one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL. It won't get any harder than that the rest of the way.

 
PahtyTom said:
I'd add McGahee to that buy low list. The Buff. run game actually looked ok on the road versus one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL. It won't get any harder than that the rest of the way.
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I'd put him up there too, but not because of NE's defense, they are over-rated, but because of Buf's D. They'll keep the games closer and Buf will not have to abandon the run as much.
 
I don't want to hi-jack, but I was speaking of New England's defensive front and their run D pertaining to McGahee. Not their D as a whole. Their defensive front is arguably the best in the league. I can definitely understand your point of view that their defense as a whole is overrated though.

 
tombonneau said:
After looking solid tonight on national TV, if I owned Brandon Jacobs, I would def. try to move him to a potentially nervous Tiki owner.
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Absolutely NOTHING about Tiki's performance tonight would make me nervous. If there's anything the Giants can take away from that game, it's run more...early...and very often.Addai would be good buy low guy if you can get a deal, he looked like there was some big game potential there and Rhodes was :X .
 
bergs101 said:
el centro said:
jamil said:
how about ahman green???
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I didn't see the game... but i'd say he had some VERY solid #s against a very solid Def! Personally - I'd be trying to buy him low still, but doubt I'll find a seller.
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Green did look very good...however, the real question is how many games will GB be in to allow Ahman to get carries?
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FWIW, they kept handing him the rock being down from the first few minutes of the game and he only looked stronger as the game went on. 100+ on the Bears from behind shows his ability/GB faith in him.
 
bergs101 said:
el centro said:
jamil said:
how about ahman green???
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I didn't see the game... but i'd say he had some VERY solid #s against a very solid Def! Personally - I'd be trying to buy him low still, but doubt I'll find a seller.
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Green did look very good...however, the real question is how many games will GB be in to allow Ahman to get carries?
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They lost by 26 in a shutout. It is too early to tell yet, but he may be healthy and represent very nice value to people who snatched him up.
 
The Football Freak said:
bergs101 said:
el centro said:
jamil said:
how about ahman green???
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I didn't see the game... but i'd say he had some VERY solid #s against a very solid Def! Personally - I'd be trying to buy him low still, but doubt I'll find a seller.
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Green did look very good...however, the real question is how many games will GB be in to allow Ahman to get carries?
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They lost by 26 in a shutout. It is too early to tell yet, but he may be healthy and represent very nice value to people who snatched him up.
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Agreed. Cutting Davenport was definitely the first sign that the Packers were confident in Green, and he looked pretty good running the ball. If you could find a seller, I'd make an offer.
 
I would almost make it a rule of thumb to take any players that have just performed at a high level against one of the the tougher (top 5) defenses off of a sell high list for at least 1-2 weeks. Especially in the first game, as you may be giving up a stud that could carry you to a championship. Of course there is always the chance that said player gets hurt and you lose the value, but that happens all the time in the NFL anyway, so you should hold them and see if it wasn't a fluke and let their value rise. If the player becomes unneccesary, then upgrade, but otherwise you should keep big performers against tough defenses on your team for a few more weeks.

 
Re: Plummer. I didn't see any of the game, but the reason I think he's a buy low is that the Broncos ran the ball effectively (based on the stats). As long as they have their running game, Plummer will have value due to the resulting play action passing.

 
Buy Low:

- DeShaun Foster (CAR) agreed

- Reuben Droughns (CLE) agreed

- Jake Plummer (DEN) don't touch him with a 40' pole

Sell High:

- Drew Bennett (TEN) agreed

- Frank Gore (SF) agreed

- Michael Vick (ATL) keep him, depending on scoring he's a gem

- Eric Moulds (HOU) agreed

- Donte' Stallworth (PHI) keep him - McNabb looked great, Stallworh is the #1 in PHI

- Kellen Winslow (CLE) keep him - Frye looked his way often from what I saw, like 8 catches, 80 yards and a TD ? nice ...... and it'll just get better

 
jamil said:
how about ahman green???
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I thought Ahman was done, until I saw the game... he was the ONLY bright spot for the packers offensively... I'd try and get Driver in any redraft league you have.... they are going to be behind ALOT this year, and he'll get plenty of garbage yards being down by 30 in the 4th qtr.
 
grabnmcbutt said:
phillzphan said:
any thoughts on SA?
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Walter Jones sat out a good portion of the game which hurt Alexander's production. He'll be fine!
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This simply isn't true. Jones was injured, but was quickly taped up and back in the game.The problem today was that Womack was abused by DT Shaun Rogers. I'm hopeful that they'll give last year's first round pick Chris Spencer a chance to step in and play. Dude is way more athletic than Womack.

http://www.seahawks.com/ardisplay.aspx?ID=7267

With Respect to Walt

As if the game wasn’t tough enough, when All-World left tackle Walter Jones was helped off the field with a sprained left ankle, it was a bit stunning to everyone.

Tom Ashworth came in for one play, gave up a sack, and on the next play Floyd Womack slid over to left tackle and Chris Spencer replaced Womack. Fortunately Jones returned on the next series. Coach Mike Holmgren said they preferred to do it with Womack and Spencer, but Ashworth automatically went in as the backup left tackle because it was such a quick decision. When a sack followed quickly, he immediately sent in Spencer.

“It was a little bit of both,” Holmgren said.

Ironically, according to Hasselbeck, even the Lions defensive players were concerned for Jones.

“He’s probably the best player in football,” Hasselbeck said. “Everyone has so much respect for him, not only on our team. The guys on the other side – when he came back into the game, they were concerned for him. The defensive line for Detroit came over and ‘Hey, Walt, you going to be all right?’ I think it says a lot about the kind of player he is.

“You’ve never seen him get into a fight. He never talks trash. He just goes about his job playing at an incredibly high level. He knocks a guy down and helps him up. He did a nice job playing hurt for us. That’s the kind of guy he is.”
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Monse said:
Week 1 Buy Low / Sell High

Buy Low:

- DeShaun Foster (CAR)

- Reuben Droughns (CLE)

- Jake Plummer (DEN)

Sell High:

- Drew Bennett (TEN)

- Frank Gore (SF)

- Michael Vick (ATL)

- Eric Moulds (HOU)

- Donte' Stallworth (PHI)

- Kellen Winslow (CLE)
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disagree. You don't double the #2's catches without being a valid target. He's money. There's some good chemistry there. I think his downside is now in the 4-5 rec/game range which will keep him near the top-6 or 7 TEs for the season. Upside would be throwing in a couple more of these 6+ games and sliding into the top-5. You didn't draft him high. He was a late gamble in most FFL drafts...guess what...it's gonna pay off. I think most FBGs like to hang on to preseason rankings a bit too long. DO NOT SELL THE SOLDIER!!!RECEIVING

REC YDS TD LG

K. Winslow 8 63 1 18

D. Northcutt 4 37 0 12

B. Edwards 2 23 0 18

S. Heiden 1 7 0 7

T. Smith 1 2 0 2

 
jpapadub said:
You don't double the #2's catches without being a valid target. He's money. There's some good chemistry there. I think his downside is now in the 4-5 rec/game range which will keep him near the top-6 or 7 TEs for the season. Upside would be throwing in a couple more of these 6+ games and sliding into the top-5. You didn't draft him high. He was a late gamble in most FFL drafts...guess what...it's gonna pay off. I think most FBGs like to hang on to preseason rankings a bit too long. DO NOT SELL THE SOLDIER!!!

RECEIVING

REC YDS TD LG

K. Winslow 8 63 1 18

D. Northcutt 4 37 0 12

B. Edwards 2 23 0 18

S. Heiden 1 7 0 7

T. Smith 1 2 0 2
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This is a tough call. I think it depends on what the other TE options are for an owner. Keep in mind that this was only one game, and that NFL defenses will react to Winslow being the focal point of the offense. The Saints are not thought of as a defensive juggernaut. If I have a decent TE option and can get good value for Winslow, I'd look to move him.
 
chris1969 said:
FFdork said:
Maybe I'm just not seeing the writing on the wall, but I don't think Stallworth will be an every week starter. If a guy in your league beleives he is, than I think he's a great sell high.

I'm curious why 'sell high' for Vick? First of all, you probably drafted him at a bargain value, and he had a very nice game against a very good defense. Given the low expectations of most owners and his history for up and down performances, do you really think one would get good trade value after one game?

Is it just the assumption that he will get hurt? Even if that's the case, he seems like a better sell high candidate if he strings together 2-3 good games to start of the year.
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Well for me at least is that Vick is still at best a QB2 on my team which he would probably be on most teams. The QB2 role for me is...#1 Be able to put up decent numbers every week if QB1 gets hurt.

#2 DEFINATELY PUT UP GOOD NUMBERS ON QB1'S BYE WEEK

#3 Be able to replace QB1 when he has good match-ups and QB1 has bad ones

#4 stay healthy, the last thing I want is an injury prone back-up, I'm kinda like the Browns and Suggs that way.

#5 Not have any threat of QB controversy

The problem is, I know Vick will have really great games and really poor games, but I have no idea when either will happen, let alone figure how he'll do QB1's bye week. I can't figure out matchups, as the talent of the opposing defense seems to have little effect on Vick's production. Since he's a running QB, he could get hurt anytime and Having Matt Schuab behind him to take over if he has a meltdown doesn't help either.
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Vick's inconsistency is highly exaggerated. He only had three stinkers last year and two of them were against Carolina. That's not unusual (especially considering his age) and only the top few qbs performed more consistently than Vick last year. But Vick's performance today showed that, just like with Tampa Bay, he's needed a little time to adjust to how Carolina defends him. It wasn't a monster game, but I think a top 5 season for Vick is a very realistic possiblity. And considering that most owners got him later in their draft and have a solid QB to go along with him, I don't see any reason not to hang on to him considering his per game upside is quite high this year... I think owners trying to sell Vick now will regret it later in the year, barring injury.

 
I'd hang on to Winslow. I just don't see who you could possibly get for him right now who would offer a higher ceiling.

 
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