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[Faulk-U]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.

This is what I'm thinking... any others

Buy Low:

Matt Schaub - with Andre back

Marc Bulger - can bounce back next year

Laurence Maroney - Injury plagued this year, but great for next year.

Ronnie Brown - Was a super Stud until he went down

Bernard Berrian - He's getting better, and Muhammad is getting older

Ted Ginn - Fast, and a top pick, plus Chambers gone. Will have more experience next year

Todd Heap - Will be Tops again.

Sell High.

Roethlishberger - Won't get higher

Hasselbeck - getting older

Reggie Bush - not living up to the hype

Marion Barber - Same role next year or less. Dallas may draft a RB next year

Torry Holt - Older and Bad knees

Greg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.

Tony Gonzalez - hot now, but Bowe will get even more looks next year.

 

[PantherPower]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersSell High.Reggie Bush - not living up to the hypeGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.

How is Bush not living up to the hype? He's the 5th highest scoring RB in PPR leagues. He continues to get better each week. And why would you sell Jennings when Farve is going to return, and he keeps getting better each week?

 

[drunk'n cat]

Your buy lows are good guys to target for next year. Except maybe not Marc Bul.

The only thing is people don't forget so fast, so I don't think Ronnie is really a buy low.

The sell high list looks right too . Maybe not Roeth. But it's true. He can't get any higher.

 

[EBF]

One guy I'd be looking to sell this offseason is Willie Parker. I know he's posted some decent numbers throughout his career, but he really looks like a marginal player to me. I won't be surprised if the Steelers draft a RB on the first day to compete with him.

 

[Denver-Fan]

Your list overall is pretty good. i'd add FatDale White to the sell high, and add Warrick Dunn to the buy low. Dunn is a starting RB with fairly good number lately, but because few guys like him he could be a steal if you're looking for a good 3rd RB for next year.

All in all a

 

[Cover2]

Is Michael Turner too obvious of a buy low? I'd buy really low on Kolby Smith and Drew Carter (UFA I believe). Sell high on LT2 while you can still get top value, as the proverbial "age wall" is quickly approaching. Deep sleeper in deep dynasty leagues: Leonard Pope

 

[Fear & Loathing]

A couple of comments:

I've seen LenDale mentioned. Unfortunately, the time to sell high on him was 2 weeks ago.

Roethlisberger? Sell high? I don't see it. Unless you also have one of Brady, Manning, Romo, or Palmer, you need to hold onto a fantasy franchise QB in dynasty leagues. Big Ben should be your QB for a long time.

I'm with EBF on Willie Parker. I wouldn't use the word "marginal", but I've always considered him a guy who was going to have to fend off competition for different parts of his job. Najeh keeps eating into his work, especially the goal-line and 3rd downs. I'm just not sure you'd be selling high though...

I think Holt & Gonzalez were the best of the sell highs. I would sell both of them. Todd Heap is a great buy low.

I have always loved Ronnie Brown, but I'm not sure I'd be buying him if it meant that I had to count on him to start for me next season. Medical technology and offseason athlete dedication have both come a long way, but RBs take at least two years to get back close to normal after ACL surgery. He's not going to be near as explosive as he was this season.

I would hold onto Hasselbeck. It's not like 32 is old for a QB, and the Seahawks have the look of a team that will pass heavily to compensate for a subpar running game.

 

[ckalltheway]

Have to disagree about MBIII and would almost mark him down as a buy low. No JJ next year to steal carries makes me think that he's going to explode.

I also think that if you're not chasing a championship, Terrell Owens is a great sell high in dynasty. Dude's on fire but dude's also getting old.

 

[EBF]

Have to disagree about MBIII and would almost mark him down as a buy low. No JJ next year to steal carries makes me think that he's going to explode.I also think that if you're not chasing a championship, Terrell Owens is a great sell high in dynasty. Dude's on fire but dude's also getting old.

It's tough to call Barber a buy low candidate when he's already pushing the top 10 in the dynasty RB rankings. I agree that he can put up some monster numbers if he becomes the workhorse in Dallas, but there's no guarantee that he'll ever be the man there. The uncertainty makes him a risky acquisition at his current cost. I think you're right about Owens, but I wouldn't necessarily call him a sell high candidate. I think it makes sense to keep him and try to win the title if you have a team that looks loaded for 2008. But if you're in rebuilding mode then guys like Bowe and Holmes have more value since they'll almost certainly be playing long after TO retires. But again, it all depends on the composition of your team. TO has a lot of value to teams that are on the brink of contending.

 

[seatownfavorite]

Buy Low: Frank Gore - I don't think his value can get any worse than it is right now short of a serious injury to his wheels

Sell High: Wes Welker - Reminds me of Stokley's big season, a great situational receiver but what are the chances that this offense continues at pace like this next year? I think he is at his max in terms of production.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

as a extremely buy low i would add mark clayton, if he can somehow get/stay healthy and the ravens get a decent QB he could be special. same with lee evans, if bills stick with a damn QB. zach miller could be something to watch for, usually young newbie QB's(jamarcus) like to lean on a sure handed TE

 

[Sleeper 43]

Buy Low -

Javon Walker

Frank Gore

Marion Barber

*dynasty super specials* J.J Arrington/Greg Jones

Sell High -

Jeremy Shockey

Kellen Winslow

Todd Heap (if you can)

Justin Fargas

Ernest Graham / Caddilac

Shaun Alexander

 

[King of the Jungle]

Pennies on the dollar: Alex Smith (injuries have ruined any chance at growth), Brady Quinn (DA has swallowed most hope), Deangelo Williams, Chad Jackson, Jerious Norwood.

Undervalued: Adrian Peterson (may be your last chance to deal for him), Anquan Boldin (injuries and Fitz surge has lowered his value), Chad Johnson, Jason Campbell (if you believe it would be good to target him before they surround him with more capable weapons), Plaxico Burress (injuries have brought numbers back to earth), Javon Walker (risk/reward).

 

[I Am Rick James]

Buy Low: Frank Gore - I don't think his value can get any worse than it is right now short of a serious injury to his wheelsSell High: Wes Welker - Reminds me of Stokley's big season, a great situational receiver but what are the chances that this offense continues at pace like this next year? I think he is at his max in terms of production.

How come he doesn't remind you of Donald driver or Hines Ward? Is it because he's white?Does Vince Young remind you more of Michael Vick or Fran Tarkinton?AHHAAA, I thought so. And VY never hurt a dog in his life!Wes Welker is really more like Drew Bennett or Kevin Curtis with a little Biletnikoff sprinked in.

 

[sdsjr3]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersBuy Low:Matt Schaub - with Andre backMarc Bulger - can bounce back next yearLaurence Maroney - Injury plagued this year, but great for next year.Ronnie Brown - Was a super Stud until he went downBernard Berrian - He's getting better, and Muhammad is getting olderTed Ginn - Fast, and a top pick, plus Chambers gone. Will have more experience next yearTodd Heap - Will be Tops again.Sell High.Roethlishberger - Won't get higherHasselbeck - getting olderReggie Bush - not living up to the hypeMarion Barber - Same role next year or less. Dallas may draft a RB next yearTorry Holt - Older and Bad kneesGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.Tony Gonzalez - hot now, but Bowe will get even more looks next year.

This is for Dynasty/Keeper purposed correct? Some names you have on here are mind boggling.Schaub - yes, he's a good buy, but for QB's, so are Leinart and Quinn. Beck I like, and could be a decent buy. Clemens doesn't look bad either.Bulger? NO NO NO. Don't waste your time with him. You stated Holt is old and has bad knees meaning he's in decline. As is Ike Bruce so who's going to bail Bulger out?Maroney - meh...I think I'd be looking elsewhere here as well. Good talent, but the Pats don't cater to his running style. Michael Bush is a decent cheap dynasty option. Julius Jones could be had cheap most likely, and he's probably going to be running for somebody else next year. Pierre Thomas could take the Deuce role in N.O. next year if Deuce doesn't heal well enough to get back on the field. Jerrious Norwood should be a decent option next year as well. You'll have to spend more, but SJax is dynasty gold IMO.Ronnie Brown - yeah, he's a decent buy low. I'm holding him in my dynasty. Miami has too many holes to fill to waste an early pick on another RB and I have a feeling Williams will be shipped out so it'll be Ronnie's backfield again next year.Berrian doesn't excite me, nor does Ginn. I can see Ginn being a good role player in the NFL for a long time, but a "stud" WR? Sorry, I just can't see it.Heap? Maybe...Lot's of questions in Baltimore right now. If his value has been driven down enough then yeah...but he still has a bit of "name" value which could make the price not so appealing.Other DYNASTY/KEEPER buy lows: Crayton (I have a feeling Glenn is done), Marion Barber (you have him on your sell list...WRONG...his value isn't through the roof at all and should only go up from here), Anthony Gonzalez (once he matures, he could be at worst another Stokely in Indy, at best, he'll take Marvin's place in a few years), MJD (only going to get better and Taylors career is winding down)Sells:You have Roeth on here? Why? He's the most underrated QB in the NFL IMO. He's an above average fantasy starter and yet, you won't get what he's worth right now out of him? How does that make him a sell? He's a hold...or if Steeler fan doesn't own him, a buy.Hasselback - agreed here...good luck getting anything for him.Holt -yes, if his name still can net you something. Unless I got a top name for him, I'd be inclined to hold and hope he pans out for another year or 2.Gonzo - If the Chiefs ever find a decent QB, Gonzo will still be productive for a few more years.Bush, Barber, Jennings? Absolutely these guys are NOT SELLS. Jennings? This kid is the real deal.If you're looking to sell, you need to find guys that are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds. Ernest Graham perhaps, or Ronald Curry, Clinton Portis, Jesse Chatman, Fred Taylor, Selvin Young, Shaun McDonald, Warrick Dunn, Edge, Stallworth, to name a few that IMO won't have value in future years.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

 

[Banger]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

 

[Tommy Collins]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersBuy Low:Matt Schaub - with Andre backMarc Bulger - can bounce back next yearLaurence Maroney - Injury plagued this year, but great for next year.Ronnie Brown - Was a super Stud until he went downBernard Berrian - He's getting better, and Muhammad is getting olderTed Ginn - Fast, and a top pick, plus Chambers gone. Will have more experience next yearTodd Heap - Will be Tops again.Sell High.Roethlishberger - Won't get higherHasselbeck - getting olderReggie Bush - not living up to the hypeMarion Barber - Same role next year or less. Dallas may draft a RB next yearTorry Holt - Older and Bad kneesGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.Tony Gonzalez - hot now, but Bowe will get even more looks next year.

This is for Dynasty/Keeper purposed correct? Some names you have on here are mind boggling.Schaub - yes, he's a good buy, but for QB's, so are Leinart and Quinn. Beck I like, and could be a decent buy. Clemens doesn't look bad either.Bulger? NO NO NO. Don't waste your time with him. You stated Holt is old and has bad knees meaning he's in decline. As is Ike Bruce so who's going to bail Bulger out?Maroney - meh...I think I'd be looking elsewhere here as well. Good talent, but the Pats don't cater to his running style. Michael Bush is a decent cheap dynasty option. Julius Jones could be had cheap most likely, and he's probably going to be running for somebody else next year. Pierre Thomas could take the Deuce role in N.O. next year if Deuce doesn't heal well enough to get back on the field. Jerrious Norwood should be a decent option next year as well. You'll have to spend more, but SJax is dynasty gold IMO.Ronnie Brown - yeah, he's a decent buy low. I'm holding him in my dynasty. Miami has too many holes to fill to waste an early pick on another RB and I have a feeling Williams will be shipped out so it'll be Ronnie's backfield again next year.Berrian doesn't excite me, nor does Ginn. I can see Ginn being a good role player in the NFL for a long time, but a "stud" WR? Sorry, I just can't see it.Heap? Maybe...Lot's of questions in Baltimore right now. If his value has been driven down enough then yeah...but he still has a bit of "name" value which could make the price not so appealing.Other DYNASTY/KEEPER buy lows: Crayton (I have a feeling Glenn is done), Marion Barber (you have him on your sell list...WRONG...his value isn't through the roof at all and should only go up from here), Anthony Gonzalez (once he matures, he could be at worst another Stokely in Indy, at best, he'll take Marvin's place in a few years), MJD (only going to get better and Taylors career is winding down)Sells:You have Roeth on here? Why? He's the most underrated QB in the NFL IMO. He's an above average fantasy starter and yet, you won't get what he's worth right now out of him? How does that make him a sell? He's a hold...or if Steeler fan doesn't own him, a buy.Hasselback - agreed here...good luck getting anything for him.Holt -yes, if his name still can net you something. Unless I got a top name for him, I'd be inclined to hold and hope he pans out for another year or 2.Gonzo - If the Chiefs ever find a decent QB, Gonzo will still be productive for a few more years.Bush, Barber, Jennings? Absolutely these guys are NOT SELLS. Jennings? This kid is the real deal.If you're looking to sell, you need to find guys that are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds. Ernest Graham perhaps, or Ronald Curry, Clinton Portis, Jesse Chatman, Fred Taylor, Selvin Young, Shaun McDonald, Warrick Dunn, Edge, Stallworth, to name a few that IMO won't have value in future years.

Clinton Portis & Selvin Young are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds? Portis isn't anywhere near where he should be IMO. Young, we don't know if he can become a featured back or not. He's looked good but it's a wait and see. You're reaching.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersBuy Low:Matt Schaub - with Andre backMarc Bulger - can bounce back next yearLaurence Maroney - Injury plagued this year, but great for next year.Ronnie Brown - Was a super Stud until he went downBernard Berrian - He's getting better, and Muhammad is getting olderTed Ginn - Fast, and a top pick, plus Chambers gone. Will have more experience next yearTodd Heap - Will be Tops again.Sell High.Roethlishberger - Won't get higherHasselbeck - getting olderReggie Bush - not living up to the hypeMarion Barber - Same role next year or less. Dallas may draft a RB next yearTorry Holt - Older and Bad kneesGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.Tony Gonzalez - hot now, but Bowe will get even more looks next year.

This is for Dynasty/Keeper purposed correct? Some names you have on here are mind boggling.Schaub - yes, he's a good buy, but for QB's, so are Leinart and Quinn. Beck I like, and could be a decent buy. Clemens doesn't look bad either.Bulger? NO NO NO. Don't waste your time with him. You stated Holt is old and has bad knees meaning he's in decline. As is Ike Bruce so who's going to bail Bulger out?Maroney - meh...I think I'd be looking elsewhere here as well. Good talent, but the Pats don't cater to his running style. Michael Bush is a decent cheap dynasty option. Julius Jones could be had cheap most likely, and he's probably going to be running for somebody else next year. Pierre Thomas could take the Deuce role in N.O. next year if Deuce doesn't heal well enough to get back on the field. Jerrious Norwood should be a decent option next year as well. You'll have to spend more, but SJax is dynasty gold IMO.Ronnie Brown - yeah, he's a decent buy low. I'm holding him in my dynasty. Miami has too many holes to fill to waste an early pick on another RB and I have a feeling Williams will be shipped out so it'll be Ronnie's backfield again next year.Berrian doesn't excite me, nor does Ginn. I can see Ginn being a good role player in the NFL for a long time, but a "stud" WR? Sorry, I just can't see it.Heap? Maybe...Lot's of questions in Baltimore right now. If his value has been driven down enough then yeah...but he still has a bit of "name" value which could make the price not so appealing.Other DYNASTY/KEEPER buy lows: Crayton (I have a feeling Glenn is done), Marion Barber (you have him on your sell list...WRONG...his value isn't through the roof at all and should only go up from here), Anthony Gonzalez (once he matures, he could be at worst another Stokely in Indy, at best, he'll take Marvin's place in a few years), MJD (only going to get better and Taylors career is winding down)Sells:You have Roeth on here? Why? He's the most underrated QB in the NFL IMO. He's an above average fantasy starter and yet, you won't get what he's worth right now out of him? How does that make him a sell? He's a hold...or if Steeler fan doesn't own him, a buy.Hasselback - agreed here...good luck getting anything for him.Holt -yes, if his name still can net you something. Unless I got a top name for him, I'd be inclined to hold and hope he pans out for another year or 2.Gonzo - If the Chiefs ever find a decent QB, Gonzo will still be productive for a few more years.Bush, Barber, Jennings? Absolutely these guys are NOT SELLS. Jennings? This kid is the real deal.If you're looking to sell, you need to find guys that are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds. Ernest Graham perhaps, or Ronald Curry, Clinton Portis, Jesse Chatman, Fred Taylor, Selvin Young, Shaun McDonald, Warrick Dunn, Edge, Stallworth, to name a few that IMO won't have value in future years.

Clinton Portis & Selvin Young are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds? Portis isn't anywhere near where he should be IMO. Young, we don't know if he can become a featured back or not. He's looked good but it's a wait and see. You're reaching.

I don't think he's reaching at all. I agree with the OP that Clinton Portis' value right now is exceeding what the future holds. We don't know on Selvin Young.I see from your sig that you're an owner of both Portis & Young. Could it be that you're biased more than the OP was reaching?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

He's beginning to get that David Carr look about him. The happy feet are a scary sign for his future. Going back to last season, he hasn't dealt well with good defense's that can put pressure on him.

 

[PantherPower]

just curious why a few of you think Portis value will go down next season. As that line gets completely healthy, Campbell continues to improve each week, and the coaching staff is opening things up, I'd say Portis should remain a top 10 back like he's always been. Plus, if Gibbs does step down this year, I could see his value going up even more. He's still young, and plays with a lot of passion. I see no signs of him slowing down...

 

[Aabye]

Buy Low: Frank Gore - I don't think his value can get any worse than it is right now short of a serious injury to his wheelsSell High: Wes Welker - Reminds me of Stokley's big season, a great situational receiver but what are the chances that this offense continues at pace like this next year? I think he is at his max in terms of production.

How come he doesn't remind you of Donald driver or Hines Ward? Is it because he's white?Does Vince Young remind you more of Michael Vick or Fran Tarkinton?AHHAAA, I thought so. And VY never hurt a dog in his life!Wes Welker is really more like Drew Bennett or Kevin Curtis with a little Biletnikoff sprinked in.

What the hell?Welker's the slot receiver on a team that's breaking passing records. If the race issue bothers you, why not say he's similar to Troy Brown? I don't see how he's comparable to Driver or Ward, who are or were the #1 options on their respective teams.I tend to agree with the OP's suggestion that Welker is a sell-high guy - I think he's a lot more likely to settle into an 800 and 6-ish role than post these obscene numbers in the future.

 

[Tommy Collins]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersBuy Low:Matt Schaub - with Andre backMarc Bulger - can bounce back next yearLaurence Maroney - Injury plagued this year, but great for next year.Ronnie Brown - Was a super Stud until he went downBernard Berrian - He's getting better, and Muhammad is getting olderTed Ginn - Fast, and a top pick, plus Chambers gone. Will have more experience next yearTodd Heap - Will be Tops again.Sell High.Roethlishberger - Won't get higherHasselbeck - getting olderReggie Bush - not living up to the hypeMarion Barber - Same role next year or less. Dallas may draft a RB next yearTorry Holt - Older and Bad kneesGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.Tony Gonzalez - hot now, but Bowe will get even more looks next year.

This is for Dynasty/Keeper purposed correct? Some names you have on here are mind boggling.Schaub - yes, he's a good buy, but for QB's, so are Leinart and Quinn. Beck I like, and could be a decent buy. Clemens doesn't look bad either.Bulger? NO NO NO. Don't waste your time with him. You stated Holt is old and has bad knees meaning he's in decline. As is Ike Bruce so who's going to bail Bulger out?Maroney - meh...I think I'd be looking elsewhere here as well. Good talent, but the Pats don't cater to his running style. Michael Bush is a decent cheap dynasty option. Julius Jones could be had cheap most likely, and he's probably going to be running for somebody else next year. Pierre Thomas could take the Deuce role in N.O. next year if Deuce doesn't heal well enough to get back on the field. Jerrious Norwood should be a decent option next year as well. You'll have to spend more, but SJax is dynasty gold IMO.Ronnie Brown - yeah, he's a decent buy low. I'm holding him in my dynasty. Miami has too many holes to fill to waste an early pick on another RB and I have a feeling Williams will be shipped out so it'll be Ronnie's backfield again next year.Berrian doesn't excite me, nor does Ginn. I can see Ginn being a good role player in the NFL for a long time, but a "stud" WR? Sorry, I just can't see it.Heap? Maybe...Lot's of questions in Baltimore right now. If his value has been driven down enough then yeah...but he still has a bit of "name" value which could make the price not so appealing.Other DYNASTY/KEEPER buy lows: Crayton (I have a feeling Glenn is done), Marion Barber (you have him on your sell list...WRONG...his value isn't through the roof at all and should only go up from here), Anthony Gonzalez (once he matures, he could be at worst another Stokely in Indy, at best, he'll take Marvin's place in a few years), MJD (only going to get better and Taylors career is winding down)Sells:You have Roeth on here? Why? He's the most underrated QB in the NFL IMO. He's an above average fantasy starter and yet, you won't get what he's worth right now out of him? How does that make him a sell? He's a hold...or if Steeler fan doesn't own him, a buy.Hasselback - agreed here...good luck getting anything for him.Holt -yes, if his name still can net you something. Unless I got a top name for him, I'd be inclined to hold and hope he pans out for another year or 2.Gonzo - If the Chiefs ever find a decent QB, Gonzo will still be productive for a few more years.Bush, Barber, Jennings? Absolutely these guys are NOT SELLS. Jennings? This kid is the real deal.If you're looking to sell, you need to find guys that are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds. Ernest Graham perhaps, or Ronald Curry, Clinton Portis, Jesse Chatman, Fred Taylor, Selvin Young, Shaun McDonald, Warrick Dunn, Edge, Stallworth, to name a few that IMO won't have value in future years.

Clinton Portis & Selvin Young are producing at a level that far exceeds what their future holds? Portis isn't anywhere near where he should be IMO. Young, we don't know if he can become a featured back or not. He's looked good but it's a wait and see. You're reaching.

I don't think he's reaching at all. I agree with the OP that Clinton Portis' value right now is exceeding what the future holds. We don't know on Selvin Young.I see from your sig that you're an owner of both Portis & Young. Could it be that you're biased more than the OP was reaching?

I think Portis value is down this year but will improve next year. As for Young, I'm not too optimistic about him but have been holding onto him to see how that pans out. Not sure how I'm biased when I'm not completely sold on Young.

 

[FavreCo]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

He's beginning to get that David Carr look about him. The happy feet are a scary sign for his future. Going back to last season, he hasn't dealt well with good defense's that can put pressure on him.

He is well on his way to Carr status. He's no Eli Manning.

 

[Banger]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

He's beginning to get that David Carr look about him. The happy feet are a scary sign for his future. Going back to last season, he hasn't dealt well with good defense's that can put pressure on him.

Totally agree. He's fine in the pocket when he's got time but when flushed out or a rush coming he gets those happy feet and his accuracy goes out the window.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersBuy Low:Matt Schaub - with Andre backMarc Bulger - can bounce back next yearLaurence Maroney - Injury plagued this year, but great for next year.Ronnie Brown - Was a super Stud until he went downBernard Berrian - He's getting better, and Muhammad is getting olderTed Ginn - Fast, and a top pick, plus Chambers gone. Will have more experience next yearTodd Heap - Will be Tops again.Sell High.Roethlishberger - Won't get higherHasselbeck - getting olderReggie Bush - not living up to the hypeMarion Barber - Same role next year or less. Dallas may draft a RB next yearTorry Holt - Older and Bad kneesGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.Tony Gonzalez - hot now, but Bowe will get even more looks next year.

I think you have a very respectable list. Just my opinion but in dynasty you need the mindset as far as "buy low" should be "who is currently underperforming but could be a top 5-10 player in the future at their position (i.e. a stud). There should be no time wasted with seeking out a WR currently performing at #40 who has maximum potential to only get to #20...why bother. With that said here is my list:Buy low:Schaub (with AJ could be a top 5 QB)Chad Jackson (played better than Holmes for most of last year) but is completely buried on the depth chart this year and won't cost you much right now. He still could be a WR stud down the road in his career.Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.Maroney - not being utilized this year as much but is only a 2nd year RB and looks very gifted and determined. MB III - He should be made the feature back anytime. JJ has been looking bad for 2 years now.Beck - did absolutely nothing last week in his debut at QB last week so Beck owners might be disappointed thus slight value drop to a moron owner. He still has alot of potential in 2-3 years though.Calvin Johnson / Roy Williams - both are young/ stud worth but not putting up the stats at the moment. Get either of these 2 guys if you canSell high-Reggie Bush - he is being maxed out in the NO offense but clearly is not putting up starting RB numbers and catching 10+ balls a game without ever "breaking the big one" either running or receiving with sooo many touches. He will be a 3rd down back in 1-2 years guaranteed.Willie Parker - He really isn't that gifted if you watch him run. He's getting way too many carries the last 2-3 years for a fairly small RB. Michael Bush - Since you are out of playoffs, don't buy this guy right now or you'll overpay for him. Draft a rookie RB next year so it doesn't cost you anthing.MJD - The midget has to be on "the juice". No one that small is that strong. Once he fails a test, serves suspension and then gets tested more regularly, his career probably is over.Wes Welker - Future career journeyman WR putting up big "one hit wonder" numbers this season. Unload him now as his only major benefit is on a playoff run this year.Ricky Williams - Alot of hype on his return / fact of the matter is he's getting pretty old now for RB standards and took quite a pounding over the years (albiet has had some recent time off).Laverneous Coles - Injury is screwing up trading him but his TD's are best in his career so far this season. Keep 'em list:Gore - Still could be a stud down the road.....only if SF offense blows up though so who knows.Roth - I think he has hit his peak. Question though is can he maintain for several years. I think he can so keep him.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Just my opinion but in dynasty you need the mindset as far as "buy low" should be "who is currently underperforming but could be a top 5-10 player in the future at their position (i.e. a stud). There should be no time wasted with seeking out a WR currently performing at #40 who has maximum potential to only get to #20...why bother.

Great point. But you're all over the place with the rest of your points...

Buy low:Chad Jackson (played better than Holmes for most of last year)

Memory does funny things to people. This isn't even close to being true.

Calvin Johnson / Roy Williams - both are young/ stud worth but not putting up the stats at the moment. Get either of these 2 guys if you can

MJD - The midget has to be on "the juice". No one that small is that strong. Once he fails a test, serves suspension and then gets tested more regularly, his career probably is over.

Lame.

 

[BoltBacker]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

He's beginning to get that David Carr look about him. The happy feet are a scary sign for his future. Going back to last season, he hasn't dealt well with good defense's that can put pressure on him.

Actually against PIT and DEN twice last season he had QB ratings of 90/92/136 last season so I think he played very well vs teams that like to put pressure on the QB.This year he looks completely different. These last three weeks have been brutal. 10 TO's in 3 games. Not all of that has been his fault(the OL is playing at a much MUCH lower level than last year and the playcalling has been suspect at times) but at the end of the day he and the Chargers would be much better off if he'd simply throw the ball away. We'll see just how many things shake up this offseason.buy low guys imo are;PalmerBreesEliCambellCutlerRiversYoungLeinartBeckKolbSell high are;BradyRomoFavreAndersonHassRoethMcNabbGarciaKitna

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

He's beginning to get that David Carr look about him. The happy feet are a scary sign for his future. Going back to last season, he hasn't dealt well with good defense's that can put pressure on him.

Actually against PIT and DEN twice last season he had QB ratings of 90/92/136 last season so I think he played very well vs teams that like to put pressure on the QB.

Since when does DEN put more pressure on the QB than any other team? Dumervil is the only one who even sniffs the QB.When I think of Rivers crumbling under pressure last season, I think specifically of the game against the Ravens earlier in the season and then against the Patriots in the playoffs. It was his first year starting, so he should get the benefit of the doubt....until this season's happy feet rendition. I've seen him quite a few times this season and recently he has begun morphing into David Carr under pressure. On top of that, his mechanics are getting worse every game.I was impressed with him for much of last season, but he's devolving into something else this year. I just wonder if he can turn that around. Some of it is physical (the mechanics, the arm strength) and some of it is mental (unable to deal with pressure).

 

[Bizkiteer]

Is Phillip Rivers a buy low?

Do you believe he can straighten out his delivery problems and teach himself to stop stepping backwards everytime there's pressure from the defense?

Well their pro-bowl center has been out for most of the year and that is effecting him dramatically IMO. Most of the rush is coming up the middle which is the worst place for a rush to come from since you can't step into your thrown and it's more difficult to avoid the rush from the middle (especially as slow as Rivers is). So yes, I think the pressure issue can be rectified to an extent but the delivery and lack of mobility is an issue.

He's beginning to get that David Carr look about him. The happy feet are a scary sign for his future. Going back to last season, he hasn't dealt well with good defense's that can put pressure on him.

Actually against PIT and DEN twice last season he had QB ratings of 90/92/136 last season so I think he played very well vs teams that like to put pressure on the QB.This year he looks completely different. These last three weeks have been brutal. 10 TO's in 3 games. Not all of that has been his fault(the OL is playing at a much MUCH lower level than last year and the playcalling has been suspect at times) but at the end of the day he and the Chargers would be much better off if he'd simply throw the ball away. We'll see just how many things shake up this offseason.buy low guys imo are;PalmerBreesEliCambellCutlerRiversYoungLeinartBeckKolbSell high are;BradyRomoFavreAndersonHassRoethMcNabbGarciaKitna

I don't know how McNabb is a sell high canidate since his value is lower now than it's been in the past 4 yrs.

 

[zamboni]

Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.

For similar reasons, I think Cotchery is a good dynasty prospect. IMO, he's only going to get better and with his strength and great hands, the TDs will come.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Our trading deadline is next week. I'm out of it for this year and I am looking for some good guys to get in a trade for next year.This is what I'm thinking... any othersSell High.Reggie Bush - not living up to the hypeGreg Jennings - still a #2 guy who's high now.

How is Bush not living up to the hype? He's the 5th highest scoring RB in PPR leagues. He continues to get better each week. And why would you sell Jennings when Farve is going to return, and he keeps getting better each week?

Bush is 10th in non PPR

 

[BoltBacker]

I don't know how McNabb is a sell high canidate since his value is lower now than it's been in the past 4 yrs.

I expect it to get much lower. He could be next years Steve McNair. He's not quite as old but looks just as beat up.

 

[Neo]

Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.

For similar reasons, I think Cotchery is a good dynasty prospect. IMO, he's only going to get better and with his strength and great hands, the TDs will come.

Love this idea. With Clemens gun they definitely may. My trading deadline is past, but I will be looking to pry him away in the offseason.

 

[benm3218]

alright... I have an interesting dillemna.

I am out of it for this year and have been offered MBIII and Housh for AJ and L Evans.

I like it and am close to pulling trigger. MBIII is the lynchpin.... is he going to explode next yr or not?

 

[Banger]

Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.

Marshall is definitely a guy that I'd target. Even though he's only got 3 TD's he's twice gotten tackled at the 1 on 22 and 30 yard passes. He's a star in the making and you need to try and get him before he takes the big leap up otherwise you won't be able to get him or if you do the price will be far far greater (like B. Edwards).

 

[FavreCo]

I don't know how McNabb is a sell high canidate since his value is lower now than it's been in the past 4 yrs.

I expect it to get much lower. He could be next years Steve McNair. He's not quite as old but looks just as beat up.

I'll really miss those bounce passes when they finally tell this guy (McNabb) that he's done. Now, why haven't they yet?

 

[FavreCo]

Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.

For similar reasons, I think Cotchery is a good dynasty prospect. IMO, he's only going to get better and with his strength and great hands, the TDs will come.

Love this idea. With Clemens gun they definitely may. My trading deadline is past, but I will be looking to pry him away in the offseason.

I'll be grabbing whatever WR they draft in 2008. Ya hear me, Clemens owner???!!!!

 

[sheerterror]

Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.

For similar reasons, I think Cotchery is a good dynasty prospect. IMO, he's only going to get better and with his strength and great hands, the TDs will come.

Love this idea. With Clemens gun they definitely may. My trading deadline is past, but I will be looking to pry him away in the offseason.

I'll be grabbing whatever WR they draft in 2008. Ya hear me, Clemens owner???!!!!

I don't know how high the Jets will be drafting a WR this year. It's been publicized that Coles likely won't play much longer, but I think he's good for another 2 seasons or so, gradually giving way to Cotchery becoming the main target. As far as the eventual number 2 in this offense, Chansi Stuckey was doing really well in camp this year before he got hurt....and I mean really well. I could see him getting a shot at moving his way up the depth chart before the Jets decide to spend a high(ish) pick on another WR.

 

[FavreCo]

Cotchery is nothing more than a #2. The future #1 is hidden in the 2008 draft for me to take.

 

[videoguy505]

My current list of "stash cheaply for next year" guys are: Jerious Norwood, Kevin Kolb, Leon Washington, Drew Bennett, Selvin Young, D. McAllister, Carnell Williams, A Peterson (Chi)?

 

[Neo]

Brandon Marshall - if you're in a TD heavy scoring league this guy is not even a top 30 WR at the moment with his 3 TD's so he's under the radar. He's a stud though getting 7+ catches a game. TD's will come down the road for sure.

For similar reasons, I think Cotchery is a good dynasty prospect. IMO, he's only going to get better and with his strength and great hands, the TDs will come.

Love this idea. With Clemens gun they definitely may. My trading deadline is past, but I will be looking to pry him away in the offseason.

I'll be grabbing whatever WR they draft in 2008. Ya hear me, Clemens owner???!!!!

Clemens owner? No. Just think Cotchery has the tools to be a legit wr.....will he? Remains to be seen, but it's a guy to buy low....

 

[sdsjr3]

Just my opinion but in dynasty you need the mindset as far as "buy low" should be "who is currently underperforming but could be a top 5-10 player in the future at their position (i.e. a stud). There should be no time wasted with seeking out a WR currently performing at #40 who has maximum potential to only get to #20...why bother.

Great point. But you're all over the place with the rest of your points...

Buy low:Chad Jackson (played better than Holmes for most of last year)

Memory does funny things to people. This isn't even close to being true.

Calvin Johnson / Roy Williams - both are young/ stud worth but not putting up the stats at the moment. Get either of these 2 guys if you can

MJD - The midget has to be on "the juice". No one that small is that strong. Once he fails a test, serves suspension and then gets tested more regularly, his career probably is over.

Lame.

Agreed, You ain't buying Roy or Calvin cheap anytime soon and MJD? The good Captain, I believe, has been hitting another Captain a bit too much before posting.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Just my opinion but in dynasty you need the mindset as far as "buy low" should be "who is currently underperforming but could be a top 5-10 player in the future at their position (i.e. a stud). There should be no time wasted with seeking out a WR currently performing at #40 who has maximum potential to only get to #20...why bother.

Great point. But you're all over the place with the rest of your points...

Buy low:Chad Jackson (played better than Holmes for most of last year)

Memory does funny things to people. This isn't even close to being true.

Calvin Johnson / Roy Williams - both are young/ stud worth but not putting up the stats at the moment. Get either of these 2 guys if you can

MJD - The midget has to be on "the juice". No one that small is that strong. Once he fails a test, serves suspension and then gets tested more regularly, his career probably is over.

Lame.

Agreed, You ain't buying Roy or Calvin cheap anytime soon and MJD? The good Captain, I believe, has been hitting another Captain a bit too much before posting.

I agree, after I submitted these comments, I thought..."I'm not hitting on all cylinders today!" Scratch my comments from the record!" Must be thinking about turkey and gravy (and the beer I'm going to drink as soon as I leave work in about 5 minutes).

 

[CravenM]

I traded Donald Driver high earlier in the season - don't regret it at all. I also got good value trading away Michael Turner which I may mourn (not regret though) someday.

My secret stash was Drew Stanton - backup to Kitna. If he can get a chance in the pre-season, the Lions might have a future gunslinger (albeit possible pick machine) like Jeff George.

 

[moderated]

I traded Donald Driver high earlier in the season - don't regret it at all. I also got good value trading away Michael Turner which I may mourn (not regret though) someday.My secret stash was Drew Stanton - backup to Kitna. If he can get a chance in the pre-season, the Lions might have a future gunslinger (albeit possible pick machine) like Jeff George.

Kitna is grossly over-rated by the general public. He puts up stats but makes tons of mistakes and takes sacks like there going out of business. He's never been a winner throughout his career and a lot of that has to do with how many errors he makes.He's a stop gap QB, if Stanton shows a lot of promise next offseason it wouldn't be surprising to see him take over at some point during the 08' season.Due to his current injury he's off everyone's radar, get him cheap and enjoy the ride...the guy is very talented.

 

[Gadfly]

Bush is an extremely hard worker with elite talent, and that is why he will continue to get better. The guy who says he will be a third-down back in 1-2 years is completely ignorant, also shown in his opinion on MJD.

 

[Cookiemonster]

One guy I'd be looking to sell this offseason is Willie Parker. I know he's posted some decent numbers throughout his career, but he really looks like a marginal player to me. I won't be surprised if the Steelers draft a RB on the first day to compete with him.

That guy may currently be on the roster.

 

[Onions]

One guy I'd be looking to sell this offseason is Willie Parker. I know he's posted some decent numbers throughout his career, but he really looks like a marginal player to me. I won't be surprised if the Steelers draft a RB on the first day to compete with him.

That guy may currently be on the roster.

Gary Russell?