C. Portis knee problems (1 Viewer)

[lawrence phillips]

The redskins running game looked dreadful again last night.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I took him at 4.10 of a 10 teamer, and I have absoultely zero confidence in him. Maybe my perception is colored in that he's my RB2 right now, but I do have:

Betts

A.Peterson

Foster

amongst others. I'd like to see two things, either Peterson or Foster establish themselves(and for anyone, just an upside flyer back should accompany Portis on any team IMO). Secondly, some decisiveness to the Portis situation. I can take 70 percent of what he was in Denver as long as he plays. What I don't want is a string of game time decisions or even worse, flucuating carries depending on how he feels. Play or don't play, riding in the middle will be fantasy poison.

I was painted into a corner when I took him and I don't feel good about it, and I wish I could be as optomistic as the other owners in here.

 

[omally]

But does anyone here really think Portis is washed up and done at only 25?

I don't think he is washed up, but he is high risk for injuries.

 

[TwinTurbo]

But does anyone here really think Portis is washed up and done at only 25?

I don't think he is washed up, but he is high risk for injuries.

That's a fair statement, but over half the starting RB's in the NFL have suffered injuries more serious than Portis during their career. IMO, guys like Henry, Gore, and Westbrook are just as injury prone if not more so and all are going in the first round. Torry Holt is another guy that is being drafted ahead of Portis, but is probably more banged up and nobody is talking about it. At some point, you have to take it all into consideration and look at the potential value. And for me, that point is the 3rd round.

 

[cubbie5150]

Portis fell to 5..02 in a 12 team redraft held 8/18/07. I ended up taking Betts who fell all the way to pick 8.06....

 

[Cowtippers]

I ended up taking Portis today in a 12 team redraft @ 4,01 and then found myself reaching for Betts at 6,01 just cuz I was second guessing myself about Portis. I went into the draft thinking his recent injury issues were just too big a deal to even take him.....but risky upside is still upside....so I pulled the trigger.

I'm sure you'll all sleep a little better tonight knowing why I drafted him

 

[wegman99]

I have to have my keepers in today, and I have Portia at $46 in a $220 league. I cannot make up my mind, but seeing where he's falling in drafts, maybe I should cut bait. I still have Addai and DeAngelo plus LT, LJ, Alexander, and Jackson will be available.

 

[Koya]

I have to have my keepers in today, and I have Portia at $46 in a $220 league. I cannot make up my mind, but seeing where he's falling in drafts, maybe I should cut bait. I still have Addai and DeAngelo plus LT, LJ, Alexander, and Jackson will be available.

Without knowing the other specifics, I would think that you may want to put portis back and put the $$ behind one of those guys.

 

[Righetti]

I have to have my keepers in today, and I have Portia at $46 in a $220 league. I cannot make up my mind, but seeing where he's falling in drafts, maybe I should cut bait. I still have Addai and DeAngelo plus LT, LJ, Alexander, and Jackson will be available.

I bet you get Portis back for less $46 if you put to him back into pool

 

[Koya]

I have to have my keepers in today, and I have Portia at $46 in a $220 league. I cannot make up my mind, but seeing where he's falling in drafts, maybe I should cut bait. I still have Addai and DeAngelo plus LT, LJ, Alexander, and Jackson will be available.

I bet you get Portis back for less $46 if you put to him back into pool

Oh yeah, that too.Not a bad idea. If you take a chance on portis at less money and he comes back to the portis of old, you will have a great value guy on your roster taking up a lot less than he would be worth. if it doesnt work, you dump him next year. just plan to get another good rb and/or betts.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

It will be interesting what type of reaction a report that reads as such will generate if it happens within the next week considering the amount of leagues that draft after the pre-season.

"Clinton Portis went through his first full workout in more than a month and reported that he felt good afterwards".

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Make an assessment, make a decision, and go with it people!

I took Portis at 3.02 and Betts at 7.08 in a 10 team performance redraft today.

Before and after last year's draft, Portis could walk on water, now he is washed up?

 

[Bristol]

Portis fell to 5..02 in a 12 team redraft held 8/18/07. I ended up taking Betts who fell all the way to pick 8.06....

Same happendend to me. He fell to the 4th round and I took him as my RB3 behind LJ and Henry. Was able to score Betts in the 8th.

 

[wegman99]

Thanks guys. It's a $220 league, with 4-8 keepers, auction, most good RB go for about 50-70 bucks. You can keep up to 3 years and gove $5 raise in 3rd year. I have Addai at 29 and DeAngelo at 23 from LY. Some very good players available though. So I guess Portis will go bye bye.

 

[redman]

The real dilemma with Portis is whether, having presumably drafted your de facto RB1 in the 1st round, you opt to select an elite WR (or Peyton) in the 2nd round hoping for Portis in the first half of the 3rd round. For example, I'm picking 1.05 in my 12-team redraft league. That 2.08 pick is going to be a tempting one to use on Portis, who figures to be on the board at that point.

But if I'm drafting for the championship, that may be where I decide to grab a guy like Harrison and try to get Portis on the turn at 3.05, knowing that I also need to get Betts and will have to use my 7th or even 6th rounder to land him too. It's a gamble, but if I'm right about Portis' prospects, that could be a killer.

 

[nygiants56]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.

despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!

Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.

Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

 

[redman]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

Many of your posts make me laugh for all the wrong reasons, so much opinion and little to no fact, I find it extremely difficult to take you seriously when you post that way.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

The real dilemma with Portis is whether, having presumably drafted your de facto RB1 in the 1st round, you opt to select an elite WR (or Peyton) in the 2nd round hoping for Portis in the first half of the 3rd round. For example, I'm picking 1.05 in my 12-team redraft league. That 2.08 pick is going to be a tempting one to use on Portis, who figures to be on the board at that point.

But if I'm drafting for the championship, that may be where I decide to grab a guy like Harrison and try to get Portis on the turn at 3.05, knowing that I also need to get Betts and will have to use my 7th or even 6th rounder to land him too. It's a gamble, but if I'm right about Portis' prospects, that could be a killer.

Is there any other way to draft? There shouldn't be. You play to win the game.

 

[redman]

The real dilemma with Portis is whether, having presumably drafted your de facto RB1 in the 1st round, you opt to select an elite WR (or Peyton) in the 2nd round hoping for Portis in the first half of the 3rd round. For example, I'm picking 1.05 in my 12-team redraft league. That 2.08 pick is going to be a tempting one to use on Portis, who figures to be on the board at that point.

But if I'm drafting for the championship, that may be where I decide to grab a guy like Harrison and try to get Portis on the turn at 3.05, knowing that I also need to get Betts and will have to use my 7th or even 6th rounder to land him too. It's a gamble, but if I'm right about Portis' prospects, that could be a killer.

Is there any other way to draft? There shouldn't be. You play to win the game.

I agree, but a lot of folks seem to be drafting Portis "if he falls to xx in the draft"; in other words, it's happenstance. I think you have to go in there planning either to get him or not, but my point was that if you guess wrong and someone snaps him up, say at 2.12 or something, you may be screwed because you're going to be scrambling for a RB2 after that.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Draft what you believe. If you think Portis will be gold, grab him. If you think he's a bust, grab Betts and move on. Maybe neither one of them will be worth a darn. Hard to know what will happen. IMO: 1) Portis is already injured 2) Betts was gold in his place last year. I'm planning accordingly.

 

[squistion]

I am such a guppy, I took Portis at 2.07 and Betts as my handcuff 7.06 in my 12 team redraft league today (1/2 point per reception). If you think I am idiot for handcuffing Betts in the 7th fine, and we can revisit this during this season if Portis is out for an extended period of time. The way I look at it I have the RB position covered for the Skins no matter what happens.

 

[Koya]

I am such a guppy, I took Portis at 2.07 and Betts as my handcuff 7.06 in my 12 team redraft league today (1/2 point per reception). If you think I am idiot for handcuffing Betts in the 7th fine, and we can revisit this during this season if Portis is out for an extended period of time. The way I look at it I have the RB position covered for the Skins no matter what happens.

I dont think taking him at any point would make someone an "idiot" if they had sound reasons for the pick. 7th round though is definately good value. I think 6th or higher you can get another really productive player, but one the 7th round hits, that is an ideal place to start thinking Betts. The thing is, he will often go before then so you have to decide are you willing to risk losing him, or not?

 

[redman]

The real dilemma with Portis is whether, having presumably drafted your de facto RB1 in the 1st round, you opt to select an elite WR (or Peyton) in the 2nd round hoping for Portis in the first half of the 3rd round. For example, I'm picking 1.05 in my 12-team redraft league. That 2.08 pick is going to be a tempting one to use on Portis, who figures to be on the board at that point.

But if I'm drafting for the championship, that may be where I decide to grab a guy like Harrison and try to get Portis on the turn at 3.05, knowing that I also need to get Betts and will have to use my 7th or even 6th rounder to land him too. It's a gamble, but if I'm right about Portis' prospects, that could be a killer.

Is there any other way to draft? There shouldn't be. You play to win the game.

I agree, but a lot of folks seem to be drafting Portis "if he falls to xx in the draft"; in other words, it's happenstance. I think you have to go in there planning either to get him or not, but my point was that if you guess wrong and someone snaps him up, say at 2.12 or something, you may be screwed because you're going to be scrambling for a RB2 after that.

Sorry to quote my own post, but I wanted to add to what I was saying. The problem with not planning specifically to get Portis is that if you draft RB-RB in your first two rounds, and then find yourself staring at Portis in round 3 that in and of itself is a dilemma and you'll likely be kicking yourself either way. Nobody will want to draft RB-RB-RB, especially when Portis is the 3rd RB and "forces" that same owner to try to handcuff Betts later on.

 

[LHUCKS]

I like the Portis Betts combo in aucition drafts if I expect Betts to be reasonable...from ADP data I have seen recently I don't like them in serpentine drafts...Betts is too expensive.

 

[kutta]

For reference, I drafted yesterday, 12 team standard scoring league. I took Portis at 2.11 and got Betts at 9.02. I wasn't going to worry about Betts, but when he was still there at that point, I had to take him.

 

[squistion]

I am such a guppy, I took Portis at 2.07 and Betts as my handcuff 7.06 in my 12 team redraft league today (1/2 point per reception). If you think I am idiot for handcuffing Betts in the 7th fine, and we can revisit this during this season if Portis is out for an extended period of time. The way I look at it I have the RB position covered for the Skins no matter what happens.

I dont think taking him at any point would make someone an "idiot" if they had sound reasons for the pick. 7th round though is definately good value. I think 6th or higher you can get another really productive player, but one the 7th round hits, that is an ideal place to start thinking Betts. The thing is, he will often go before then so you have to decide are you willing to risk losing him, or not?

I looked at the previous posts that said if you handcuffed him you were a "guppy" - maybe they are right, but the whole tone was if you took Betts as a handcuff, that was not a shark move, fine if you think so but I am very happy with Portis at 2.07 (slight reach) and Betts at 7.06.

 

[Koya]

I am such a guppy, I took Portis at 2.07 and Betts as my handcuff 7.06 in my 12 team redraft league today (1/2 point per reception). If you think I am idiot for handcuffing Betts in the 7th fine, and we can revisit this during this season if Portis is out for an extended period of time. The way I look at it I have the RB position covered for the Skins no matter what happens.

I dont think taking him at any point would make someone an "idiot" if they had sound reasons for the pick. 7th round though is definately good value. I think 6th or higher you can get another really productive player, but one the 7th round hits, that is an ideal place to start thinking Betts. The thing is, he will often go before then so you have to decide are you willing to risk losing him, or not?

I looked at the previous posts that said if you handcuffed him you were a "guppy" - maybe they are right, but the whole tone was if you took Betts as a handcuff, that was not a shark move, fine if you think so but I am very happy with Portis at 2.07 (slight reach) and Betts at 7.06.

I think the problem some have (including me) with handcuffing is handcuffing too early. You took him at the right time imo, the 7th. That is a smart move. Personally I think taking him 6th or sooner is not a value pick and you would be better off getting a good third who can also be used for bye weeks etc.

 

[redman]

I am such a guppy, I took Portis at 2.07 and Betts as my handcuff 7.06 in my 12 team redraft league today (1/2 point per reception). If you think I am idiot for handcuffing Betts in the 7th fine, and we can revisit this during this season if Portis is out for an extended period of time. The way I look at it I have the RB position covered for the Skins no matter what happens.

I dont think taking him at any point would make someone an "idiot" if they had sound reasons for the pick. 7th round though is definately good value. I think 6th or higher you can get another really productive player, but one the 7th round hits, that is an ideal place to start thinking Betts. The thing is, he will often go before then so you have to decide are you willing to risk losing him, or not?

I looked at the previous posts that said if you handcuffed him you were a "guppy" - maybe they are right, but the whole tone was if you took Betts as a handcuff, that was not a shark move, fine if you think so but I am very happy with Portis at 2.07 (slight reach) and Betts at 7.06.

I think the problem some have (including me) with handcuffing is handcuffing too early. You took him at the right time imo, the 7th. That is a smart move. Personally I think taking him 6th or sooner is not a value pick and you would be better off getting a good third who can also be used for bye weeks etc.

It really depends upon how you drafted. If you drafted RB-WR-Portis, then focused your next few rounds on your WR2, TE and QB, it's pretty hard to hammer someone for taking Betts at 7.xx given that he's not only your 3rd RB but virtually guarantees you to have the Redskins' likely very good running game. That's a good approach IMHO. Panicking and getting Betts in round 5 or something, before you've drafted your other starters, is not so hot.

 

[Koya]

I am such a guppy, I took Portis at 2.07 and Betts as my handcuff 7.06 in my 12 team redraft league today (1/2 point per reception). If you think I am idiot for handcuffing Betts in the 7th fine, and we can revisit this during this season if Portis is out for an extended period of time. The way I look at it I have the RB position covered for the Skins no matter what happens.

I dont think taking him at any point would make someone an "idiot" if they had sound reasons for the pick. 7th round though is definately good value. I think 6th or higher you can get another really productive player, but one the 7th round hits, that is an ideal place to start thinking Betts. The thing is, he will often go before then so you have to decide are you willing to risk losing him, or not?

I looked at the previous posts that said if you handcuffed him you were a "guppy" - maybe they are right, but the whole tone was if you took Betts as a handcuff, that was not a shark move, fine if you think so but I am very happy with Portis at 2.07 (slight reach) and Betts at 7.06.

I think the problem some have (including me) with handcuffing is handcuffing too early. You took him at the right time imo, the 7th. That is a smart move. Personally I think taking him 6th or sooner is not a value pick and you would be better off getting a good third who can also be used for bye weeks etc.

It really depends upon how you drafted. If you drafted RB-WR-Portis, then focused your next few rounds on your WR2, TE and QB, it's pretty hard to hammer someone for taking Betts at 7.xx given that he's not only your 3rd RB but virtually guarantees you to have the Redskins' likely very good running game. That's a good approach IMHO. Panicking and getting Betts in round 5 or something, before you've drafted your other starters, is not so hot.

I think we are in agreement here. If you don't get a third RB in the first 5 round, you better get Betts, even if you have to overpay a little and get him in the 6th. If you use a 4th or 5th on a good 3rd RB, then the pressure to get Betts is off and you can hold until 7 or 8 depending upon how comfortable you are with your other RBs if Portis goes down.

 

[videoguy505]

CP fell to 6.02 in my 12 teamer, and Betts went at 6.07

 

[ImTheScientist]

CP fell to 6.02 in my 12 teamer, and Betts went at 6.07

Not something to be proud of :(

 

[videoguy505]

CP fell to 6.02 in my 12 teamer, and Betts went at 6.07

Not something to be proud of

Keeper league equivalent, everyone kept 3 already, so he was in the third round of non-keepers. I wasn't touching him until a round later with my stable of RBs already in place

 

[ImTheScientist]

CP fell to 6.02 in my 12 teamer, and Betts went at 6.07

Not something to be proud of

Keeper league equivalent, everyone kept 3 already, so he was in the third round of non-keepers. I wasn't touching him until a round later with my stable of RBs already in place

That makes way more sense

 

[sho nuff]

Fell to me again...this time in a 10 teamer...into the 5th. And again I just felt I had to take the guy. He is my 3rd RB (we only play 2) behind Maroney and Parker.

 

[joffer]

6 more Omega leagues tonight, 12 teamers

#1 - Portis 3.04, Betts 8.03

#2 - Portis 2.09, Betts 8.01

#3 - Portis 3.11, Betts 9.11

#4 - Portis 3.04, Betts 8.07

#5 - Portis 2.09, Betts 5.09

#6 - Portis 3.05, Betts 7.08

 

[B. Nugget]

Portis owner in 3 leagues..... The not practicing does have me a bit concerned, but CP is his own man and does whatever he wants to do. If he feels he doesn't need practice (allen iverson style) then CP doesn't need practice.

The elite talents call their own shots.

That smells like rationalization to me. The guy barely played last season. Regardless of how talented he is (and I agree Portis when healthy is an elite talent) I have to believe the Redskins would want to get him on the practice field if he was healthy. The fact he's missed so much practice time leads me to think he isn't healthy and the team is hoping that by resting him he will be healthy when the season begins. Maybe that happens but that's a huge risk to take if you're considering drafting Portis.

Isn't tendonitis an over-use injury? Why wouldn't he be resting it and only doing conditioning drills to stay in shape? How else would you treat an over-use injury?

Also, for a guy that barely played, he still scored 7 times. That is 3 more TDs than Betts and only 2 less than Betts has scored in his career.

My thoughts exactly. If I have tendonititis (inflammation of the tendon, I believe), I would do everything I could to let the inflammation settle down before I tried to stir it up again with cuts and hitting. When I had inflammation in my back, I walked a lot, but didn't run for a long time for this same reason. When I did start to run, I had no issues. Had I started running earlier, I might have re-aggravated the injury, exacerbating the inflammation. But I'm not an MD...

If I were Portis, I wouldn't cut until I absolutely had to. He may have no idea of how he will feel when he does cut, but I hope he doesn't start cutting or hitting until a few days before game 1.

I think your willingness to take him depends on your willingness to win big or lose big. Taking Portis as your RB2 will either lead you to the championship or make you miss the playoffs. If you want to "play it safe" and end up in the middle of your league, take Edge instead. Rudi, Edge, Cadillac will be a very safe trio of RBs that will not win you a championship, IMHO. Gore, Portis and Norwood might kill you, but could lead you to the promised land.

Bingo....that is exactly my way of thinking....if I was lucky to get LT, sure I would pass on Portis, but if I am getting the 8th spot in the draft like I did last night, I am going for the jugular.I got Westbrook + Portis in a PPR league and I know I can compete any given week with that duo....even against the guy who has LT+ Benson

What other RBs did you draft? Did you handcuff and take Betts?

No....I got DeAngelo Williams, Kevin Jones & Anthony Thomas (This is a PPR league so KJ is value when he comes back, even if it is after 5 games)

I drafted from the #4 hole on Wednesday night in a 12 team ppr league. (1QB/2RB/2WR/FLEX/TE/D/K)My first 6 rounds shook out like this...

1.04 Gore

2.09 Holt

3.04 Portis

4.09 TJ Housh

5.04 J. Lewis

6.09 F. Taylor

also... 10.09 L. Washington

I had no intention of taking Betts unless he fell (and of course someone reached on him in the early 6th round) but was targetting Portis for the 3rd to pair with Gore. You know, its funny, I really like my team but I fully realize that the first 3 picks have injury risks associated and the next 3 picks are about as "unsexy" as it gets. I figured if Portis flops, I still have Lewis and Taylor to fall back on as RB2/FLEX, and if he plays like I think he will, I just put myself in a very nice position to make a run at the title. I could have had Edge and 3-4 RBs in that same tier, but the other 3 teams in my division have LT, LJ and SJax, so playing it safe means I am still at a disadvantage.

 

[GoinDeep]

The real dilemma with Portis is whether, having presumably drafted your de facto RB1 in the 1st round, you opt to select an elite WR (or Peyton) in the 2nd round hoping for Portis in the first half of the 3rd round. For example, I'm picking 1.05 in my 12-team redraft league. That 2.08 pick is going to be a tempting one to use on Portis, who figures to be on the board at that point. But if I'm drafting for the championship, that may be where I decide to grab a guy like Harrison and try to get Portis on the turn at 3.05, knowing that I also need to get Betts and will have to use my 7th or even 6th rounder to land him too. It's a gamble, but if I'm right about Portis' prospects, that could be a killer.

I just did the same thing in my 12 teamer. I took FWP at #5, Harrison in the second and Portis in the 3rd. I have the utmost confidence that I have 2 #1 RBs.

 

[thayman]

The redskins running game looked dreadful again last night.

Primarily because Betts is the starter while Portis is out. The buildup around Betts is nuts, there is a big reason why he signed a extension to be a career backup...because that is what he is. Nothing more than a servicable backup.

 

[thayman]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

You constantly say Betts will be a top 10RB, I would like to know which backs you think would finish higher than Betts if he was crowned the starter right now.

 

[lucky55]

I drafted tonight from the 2 spot in a 12 team, ppr redraft.

Took SJAX in the first, Adrian Peterson at 4:11 (pick 47), and Portis at 5:2 (pick 50). I'm very pleased with what I got, and didn't consider drafting Betts as a handcuff.

BTW, Betts went 7:10 (pick 82)

my draft, for those that are curious

SJAX

Roy Williams

T.J Houshmanzadah

Adrian Peterson

Clinton Portis

Braylon Edwards

Vince Young

DJ Hackett

Chris Cooley

Patriots Defense

Ben Rothlisberger

Anthony Gonzalez

Owen Daniels

Olindo Mare

I think I'm playoff bound

 

[One]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.

despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!

Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.

Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

You constantly say Betts will be a top 10RB, I would like to know which backs you think would finish higher than Betts if he was crowned the starter right now.

I'm thinking he meant Top 10 from that point forward & I tend to agree.Over the last 7 weeks of the season as the WAS starter Betts averaged around 25 ppg (PPR, wks. 11-17) ...pretty good for a career backup.

Primarily because Betts is the starter while Portis is out. The buildup around Betts is nuts, there is a big reason why he signed a extension to be a career backup...because that is what he is. Nothing more than a servicable backup.

He's no McPortis, but at least he can run more than a straight line.

 

[Skanker]

Portis =

 

[ImTheScientist]

Portis =

 

[TeamDingo]

I like the Portis Betts combo in aucition drafts if I expect Betts to be reasonable...from ADP data I have seen recently I don't like them in serpentine drafts...Betts is too expensive.

Do people believe that there is value in nominating LBetts first in an auction, making CPortis that much more unattractive to other owners when he comes up later?If enough people view CPortis as borderline untouchable with LBetts available, it seems to me if I am willing to pay a small premium on LBetts early I should be able to get CPortis at a deep discount later.Thoughts?

 

[thayman]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.

despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!

Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.

Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

You constantly say Betts will be a top 10RB, I would like to know which backs you think would finish higher than Betts if he was crowned the starter right now.

I'm thinking he meant Top 10 from that point forward & I tend to agree.Over the last 7 weeks of the season as the WAS starter Betts averaged around 25 ppg (PPR, wks. 11-17) ...pretty good for a career backup.

Primarily because Betts is the starter while Portis is out. The buildup around Betts is nuts, there is a big reason why he signed a extension to be a career backup...because that is what he is. Nothing more than a servicable backup.

He's no McPortis, but at least he can run more than a straight line.

I don't care when he meant Top 10. Who finishes below Betts at the end of the day?? And you are right Betts is no Portis, but have you seen the running game with Betts in there this pre-season???

 

[Koya]

I like the Portis Betts combo in aucition drafts if I expect Betts to be reasonable...from ADP data I have seen recently I don't like them in serpentine drafts...Betts is too expensive.

Do people believe that there is value in nominating LBetts first in an auction, making CPortis that much more unattractive to other owners when he comes up later?If enough people view CPortis as borderline untouchable with LBetts available, it seems to me if I am willing to pay a small premium on LBetts early I should be able to get CPortis at a deep discount later.Thoughts?

There may be value. But I would love for someone to take betts, assuming they will then get Portis. If others would be fearful of taking Portis, I would love to have him at a big discount vs. his potential value and secure my RBs by having two other players who would be solid starters. You want three starting caliber RBs in any case for most leagues and if you spend too much on Betts, what happens if your other guy goes down? What about bye weeks? What if BETTS gets dinged (happens often as well, but is overlooked it seems). What if Betts and Portis end up splitting to such a degree that NEITHER are a great start?I am telling you, unless you get betts where you should - with the better BACKUPS but not before starters are gone, you are hurting your team.

 

[One]

I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.

despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!

Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.

Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..

You constantly say Betts will be a top 10RB, I would like to know which backs you think would finish higher than Betts if he was crowned the starter right now.

I'm thinking he meant Top 10 from that point forward & I tend to agree.Over the last 7 weeks of the season as the WAS starter Betts averaged around 25 ppg (PPR, wks. 11-17) ...pretty good for a career backup.

Primarily because Betts is the starter while Portis is out. The buildup around Betts is nuts, there is a big reason why he signed a extension to be a career backup...because that is what he is. Nothing more than a servicable backup.

He's no McPortis, but at least he can run more than a straight line.

I don't care when he meant Top 10. Who finishes below Betts at the end of the day?? And you are right Betts is no Portis, but have you seen the running game with Betts in there this pre-season???

I'd rather make my assumptions off his games as a starter.66 tyds, 5rec

108 tyds, 2rec

173 tyds, 3rec, TD

185 tyds, 2rec

162 tyds, 3rec

164 tyds, 2rec, 2TD

144 tyds, 6rec, TD

I don't know what kinda scoring you play with, but that makes a nice RB1-RB2 IMO. He's nowhere near as talented as CP, but I don't think Portis will be in the starting lineup for 16 games.

 

[LordHusker]

I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:

C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though.

 

[Koya]

I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though.

Doens't Marvin Harrison eat all fast food all the time?