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I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though. :thumbdown:
Personally, I don't understand this from Clayton at all. Did Portis actually say, "Yeah I'm eating more McDonalds?" Listen, a guy can keep his workout regime the same and eat more (i.e., tons of proteins) and get bigger. Actually, that's probably the biggest key in getting bigger and more muscular. Doesn't matter how much you workout, if your not fueling your body properly it won't grow. I would really love to see the exact quote from Clayton, because right now to me this is just an opinion and quite possibly a bad opinion from someone in the business who misinterpreted the meaning of what Portis said.
 
I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:

C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though.

:kicksrock:
Personally, I don't understand this from Clayton at all. Did Portis actually say, "Yeah I'm eating more McDonalds?" Listen, a guy can keep his workout regime the same and eat more (i.e., tons of proteins) and get bigger. Actually, that's probably the biggest key in getting bigger and more muscular. Doesn't matter how much you workout, if your not fueling your body properly it won't grow. I would really love to see the exact quote from Clayton, because right now to me this is just an opinion and quite possibly a bad opinion from someone in the business who misinterpreted the meaning of what Portis said.
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I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:

C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though.

:lmao:
Personally, I don't understand this from Clayton at all. Did Portis actually say, "Yeah I'm eating more McDonalds?" Listen, a guy can keep his workout regime the same and eat more (i.e., tons of proteins) and get bigger. Actually, that's probably the biggest key in getting bigger and more muscular. Doesn't matter how much you workout, if your not fueling your body properly it won't grow. I would really love to see the exact quote from Clayton, because right now to me this is just an opinion and quite possibly a bad opinion from someone in the business who misinterpreted the meaning of what Portis said.
:lmao:
Plus, Clayton has the body of an 83 year old.
 
I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:

C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though.

:banned:
Personally, I don't understand this from Clayton at all. Did Portis actually say, "Yeah I'm eating more McDonalds?" Listen, a guy can keep his workout regime the same and eat more (i.e., tons of proteins) and get bigger. Actually, that's probably the biggest key in getting bigger and more muscular. Doesn't matter how much you workout, if your not fueling your body properly it won't grow. I would really love to see the exact quote from Clayton, because right now to me this is just an opinion and quite possibly a bad opinion from someone in the business who misinterpreted the meaning of what Portis said.
:hophead:
Plus, Clayton has the body of an 83 year old.
clayton is a complete tool. his assessment is in direct contrast to portis' recent interview where he talked about focusing more on nutrition & working out as he gets older. clayton is just trying to get on record in case portis struggles this year due to his knee.
 
Clayton does a local radio show here in Seattle and I get :banned: when listening to his opinions. Great when reporting inside info/facts..... :hophead: not so great w/ opinions.

 
I can't wait for this saga to be over, that's for sure. I have felt all along that he will be fine and will prove to be the #1 back he's always been, but all this negativity is making me quite nervous.

 
thayman said:
I won't touch Portis...he's radioactive, as far as I'm concerned.too much risk.

despite the rushing problems that the Redskins have had thus far, I don't worry about it one bit. Once they get Samuels back , they should be ready to rock-n-roll!

Betts is the #1 guy in Washington this season, and should finish in the top 10RB's.

Portis is likely headed for IR at some point..
You constantly say Betts will be a top 10RB, I would like to know which backs you think would finish higher than Betts if he was crowned the starter right now.
I'm thinking he meant Top 10 from that point forward & I tend to agree.Over the last 7 weeks of the season as the WAS starter Betts averaged around 25 ppg (PPR, wks. 11-17) ...pretty good for a career backup.

Primarily because Betts is the starter while Portis is out. The buildup around Betts is nuts, there is a big reason why he signed a extension to be a career backup...because that is what he is. Nothing more than a servicable backup.
:shrug: He's no McPortis, but at least he can run more than a straight line.
I don't care when he meant Top 10. Who finishes below Betts at the end of the day?? And you are right Betts is no Portis, but have you seen the running game with Betts in there this pre-season???
That left side of the line isn't what you'll see come the regular season. The bad news is that, especially with a brand new player at LG added to the mix in Kendall, they may need a few weeks to gel after the season starts, given that week 1 will be the first time that the unit has played together as a whole.
 
The Scientist said:
Clayton does a local radio show here in Seattle and I get :unsure: when listening to his opinions. Great when reporting inside info/facts..... :excited: not so great w/ opinions.
Obviously I'm a 'Skins fan and have been supportive of Portis' value this coming year, but it's hard for me to decide whether that particular piece of information is more factual or opinion. It's not like he's assessing talent there, which I don't trust from guys like him or Peter King. Given Clayton's conservative approach IMHO to delivering information, I've got to think that he got that tidbit/observation from one or more people. Either way, it's not good news. :shrug:
 
I grabbed Portis in the 3rd thinking he represented excellent value... but as the season draws closer I hate seeing him on my roster.

 
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Last year you were injured while making a tackle during a meaningless preseason game. If you were commissioner for the day, how would you fix the current system? Would you shorten the preseason? Eliminate it completely?

Man, you know, if I was the commissioner I'd do a lot different. Like the individuality of the game - you want to sell that to the fans, but you're really not letting the players be individuals. I would change that first and let players go out and have fun. A lot of the things that separate players and show the individuality of players is taken away - like celebrations or the dress code. I understand you want to make everyone look the same, but everybody is not the same. The way they market the NFL they're making major money and that's what it all boils down to, making money. They gotta get their money, but how much money can you make?

I say let the people go out and have fun. And I think the preseason should be about letting the people who are coming in, looking for a shot, have that opportunity. A lot of teams don't do that. You don't get the opportunity to go out and showcase your talent. You might get to play in one game or you might not. If you don't even get into your first game then no one will ever know if you can play.



Because your season was cut short last year, it seems like critics are down on you. What's your mindset heading into this season and what can the fans expect from Clinton Portis and the Washington Redskins in 2007?

You can expect C.P. to be back in the zone. I know no one is for me, everyone is against me. The people that are for me are probably the people that I sit down and have dinner with, and that's it. That's my family, my close friends and my teammates. Outside of them, it's always "What have you done for me lately?"

People like negativity. They want to see you rise and see you fall. I know I didn't fall, I got injured. I got injured doing something I love to do and that's being aggressive and giving my all. Whether it's preseason or not, I give it my all. When they turn the lights on, I go out there knowing I can't give them garbage. I go out and play football - preseason, regular season, playoffs, anything. I got hurt putting myself on the line and people act like I fell off. I didn't fall off, man. I was out there busting my ### in a game that wasn't even meaningful. Once I get out on the field, I'm gonna go full speed. I think the whole thing was just a wake-up call. You're only as hot as your last move and my last move it seems like was two years ago, so I ain't that hot right now.
read this interview in its entirity here. Most of the homers seem to think he's in for big things this season.
 
So redman, as a Redskins 'insider', any news or updates about CP? Projections or whatever? Anything? :lmao:
Heh, he's probably the most volatile player in the draft this year, so in that sense it's tough. His floor is above what he did last year IMHO - 127/423/7 17/170/0 - which he did in only 8 games and which had him solidly within the RB3 range in overall value. I'm not all that worried about the tendonitis, and the shoulder isn't even getting mentioned as a problem leading me to believe that he's fully healed. I also think Portis is a proud, flamboyant guy who will have something to prove this year. On the downside, Portis' tendonitis is an overuse injury that is only ultimately treated with rest, and that could lead to the team resting him given how well Betts showed he could carry the ball last year. Also, the left side of the line has zero preseason playing time in this offense, and Samuels won't return until Week 1; Kendall's learning the offense after a late start. I think they're going to take a few weeks to settle in, leading to a slow start offensively. My current projections: 280/1260/11 35/295/1.Those are conservative numbers. If his knee is essentially a non-issue that's been dressed up a tad as an excuse to avoid preseason work, then he could be good for as much as 1500 rushing yards in that offense. Saunders is salivating at that prospect. I think overall you draft Portis for value thinking "upside", and don't worry too much about getting him too early (or for too much in an auction league) because he figures to put up at least decent numbers.
 
Per rotoworld

Jason Campbell (bruised knee) has been cleared to play in Washington's fourth preseason game Thursday night.

Campbell says he's not fully healthy yet, but expects to be by game time. Coach Joe Gibbs says he won't play unless he's 100 percent. Clinton Portis (knee) will be a game-time decision, but it's doubtful he'll actually play.
Looks like he will be feeling great by week 1......because most of us know he is milking this injury for everything he can....ITS ONLY PRESEASON people.
 
Per rotoworld

Jason Campbell (bruised knee) has been cleared to play in Washington's fourth preseason game Thursday night.

Campbell says he's not fully healthy yet, but expects to be by game time. Coach Joe Gibbs says he won't play unless he's 100 percent. Clinton Portis (knee) will be a game-time decision, but it's doubtful he'll actually play.
Looks like he will be feeling great by week 1......because most of us know he is milking this injury for everything he can....ITS ONLY PRESEASON people.
please stop trying to use logic in this thread. it could limit the amount of reactionary panic that is generated. ;) i'm looking forward to week 1. it will be amusing to see the shocked reactions when portis is suddenly healed and carries the ball 20 times. ("i can see! i can see! i have....i have legs, i can walk! jesus, praise jesus!")

 
August 27, 2007, 16:54Redskins :: RBRB Portis Progressing; Might Play ThursdayJason La Confora, Washington Post - [Full Article]Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis is going to do more at practice this week according to HC Joe Gibbs, and will be a game-time decision this Thursday.
 
August 27, 2007, 16:54Redskins :: RBRB Portis Progressing; Might Play ThursdayJason La Confora, Washington Post - [Full Article]Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis is going to do more at practice this week according to HC Joe Gibbs, and will be a game-time decision this Thursday.
This is early......I didn't expect this news until the week before their week 1 game. :fishing:
 
So redman, as a Redskins 'insider', any news or updates about CP? Projections or whatever? Anything? :lmao:
Heh, he's probably the most volatile player in the draft this year, so in that sense it's tough. His floor is above what he did last year IMHO - 127/423/7 17/170/0 - which he did in only 8 games and which had him solidly within the RB3 range in overall value. I'm not all that worried about the tendonitis, and the shoulder isn't even getting mentioned as a problem leading me to believe that he's fully healed. I also think Portis is a proud, flamboyant guy who will have something to prove this year. On the downside, Portis' tendonitis is an overuse injury that is only ultimately treated with rest, and that could lead to the team resting him given how well Betts showed he could carry the ball last year. Also, the left side of the line has zero preseason playing time in this offense, and Samuels won't return until Week 1; Kendall's learning the offense after a late start. I think they're going to take a few weeks to settle in, leading to a slow start offensively. My current projections: 280/1260/11 35/295/1.Those are conservative numbers. If his knee is essentially a non-issue that's been dressed up a tad as an excuse to avoid preseason work, then he could be good for as much as 1500 rushing yards in that offense. Saunders is salivating at that prospect. I think overall you draft Portis for value thinking "upside", and don't worry too much about getting him too early (or for too much in an auction league) because he figures to put up at least decent numbers.
Cool, thanks! :lmao:
 
everyone has their opinion. it's either boom or bust. draft him or pass on him. handcuff betts or not. i keep clicking on this thread just to get a little more info. i'm tired of the arguments, name calling, sarcasm, etc. by now, everyone has their opinion and that's OK...

can we just get more info/updates and less BS

TIA

 
everyone has their opinion. it's either boom or bust. draft him or pass on him. handcuff betts or not. i keep clicking on this thread just to get a little more info. i'm tired of the arguments, name calling, sarcasm, etc. by now, everyone has their opinion and that's OK...

can we just get more info/updates and less BS

TIA
latest portis update
 
Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) is expected to practice fully Tuesday.

Although it's doubtful he'll get close to a full workload in Washington's final preseason contest, coach Joe Gibbs is calling Portis a "game-time decision." If he can get through practice up until the season, Portis should be well worth a late third- or fourth-round pick in fantasy leagues.

 
This is absolutely shocking... Pre-season is coming to an end and Portis is ready to roll?

I still don't trust him this year... but not because of a bout of tendonitis. I knew he'd be good to go for the opener.

 
Not that he isn't a risk (he is) but the not playing in the preseason doesn't mean anything to me. After what happened to him last year, I figure he's thrown in the towel on the preseason and will say or do whatever it takes to not be on the field and risk his season on a meaningless pretend game.

He's still an injury risk. Betts is still there. But his presence (or lack thereof) in these games is meaningless. He could be 100 percent and find a way not to play. I wouldn't be surprised if he practices fully but is a game-time scratch. :2cents:

 
i've been scouring the extremskins.com website for a take of the Skin diehards and those guys all think

1) Portis is the superior talent

2) Betts' big run of games last year had more to do with the huge holes and the fact the offensive line was clicking..

3) Betts is not dangerous while Portis can score everytime he touches the ball.

4) Betts does not look the same this year as last year, seems to run into the line, no patience

5) Betts is a good not great backup.

6) Portis will be the unquestionable starter and will get the majority of the carries

7) Joe Theisman belongs in the hall of fame

 
I'm sure many of you already saw this, but here's John Clayton's take from the John Clayton Q&A thread:

C. Portis (WASH) - Body is breaking down because he does not take care of himself like a pro athlete should. He called him a McDonalds guy. Said he noticed he was bigger and asked if he started a new workout routine. Portis said no, he's just eating more. Feels his body is more like a 29 year old because of his eating habits. Still main RB though.

:coffee:
Personally, I don't understand this from Clayton at all. Did Portis actually say, "Yeah I'm eating more McDonalds?" Listen, a guy can keep his workout regime the same and eat more (i.e., tons of proteins) and get bigger. Actually, that's probably the biggest key in getting bigger and more muscular. Doesn't matter how much you workout, if your not fueling your body properly it won't grow. I would really love to see the exact quote from Clayton, because right now to me this is just an opinion and quite possibly a bad opinion from someone in the business who misinterpreted the meaning of what Portis said.
:blackdot:
Plus, Clayton has the body of an 83 year old.
and the head of a raisin
 
I play in 4 $$ leagues this yr... 3 Dynasties and 1 redraft. I own Portis in 2 of those dynaties and also in the redraft.

In both Dynasties, I made sure I hooked him with Betts; in the redraft... I didn't bother... (my RBs in that redraft are SA, Portis, Duece, JJ, M Bell... so I can afford to roll the dice on Portis).

Not going to lie... its a little consiring that he wasn't played a pre-season game...

but in this pre-season; Betts hasn't showed anything to distance himself into the starting job...

Portis is the main guy....

 
I play in 4 $$ leagues this yr... 3 Dynasties and 1 redraft. I own Portis in 2 of those dynaties and also in the redraft.In both Dynasties, I made sure I hooked him with Betts; in the redraft... I didn't bother... (my RBs in that redraft are SA, Portis, Duece, JJ, M Bell... so I can afford to roll the dice on Portis).Not going to lie... its a little consiring that he wasn't played a pre-season game... but in this pre-season; Betts hasn't showed anything to distance himself into the starting job... Portis is the main guy....
He's the main guy as long as he lasts these days, and you have to consider him an injury risk. I hate predicting them, but don't mind avoiding guys that have on going trouble. At this point he has seriosu on going troubles.
 
Portis does represent tremendous upside value.

Here is where he went in 2 recent 12 team drafts (start 2 RBs + 1 Super Flex)

League 1 - pick 5.08 , while Betts went at 4.08

League 2 (draft slots skewed because each team keeps 3 players and loses designated draft slots), pick 3.08, Betts 5.12

I would have taken him in League 1 at 5.09, I had gone RB with my 1st 2 picks and would only have taken him if he slipped into the late 5th round because I already have significant Clinton Portis exposure, owning him in both of my Dynasty Leagues.

 
If CP doesn't play this weekend vs N.Y. G-men then we worry no matter what right? Surely he'd play a little even if they were just being cautious this whole time; :rolleyes:
I will be shocked if he plays at all in the preseason. I'm not worried either way.
LT didn't play last year in preseason. He isn't playing this year either. Portis sees preseason as a waste of time, in which the only thing that happens is potential injury. He won't play this weekend.
Yeah, but LT at least is wearing pads and practicing with the offense, making cuts and so forth. Portis is running/conditioning. Not taking hits or wearing pads as far as I know. There are some major difference's. I'd feel better if Portis was at least practicing at full speed with his team like LT.
:rolleyes: BEST post in this entire thread!

Portis hasn't even practiced fully yet.has knee swelling. we all know he has a surgically repaired shoulder, right?! and that shoulder has yet to be tested.and he's a hard-hitting RB.seriously now, how long will a rb like that last, with a bum shoulder AND a bum knee?!?

Portis = fools gold, imo..

Betts will lead that team in rushing..

you can have Portis, he's a waste of a roster spot, imo..
Just thought I would bump this
 
If CP doesn't play this weekend vs N.Y. G-men then we worry no matter what right? Surely he'd play a little even if they were just being cautious this whole time; :rolleyes:
I will be shocked if he plays at all in the preseason. I'm not worried either way.
LT didn't play last year in preseason. He isn't playing this year either. Portis sees preseason as a waste of time, in which the only thing that happens is potential injury. He won't play this weekend.
Yeah, but LT at least is wearing pads and practicing with the offense, making cuts and so forth. Portis is running/conditioning. Not taking hits or wearing pads as far as I know. There are some major difference's. I'd feel better if Portis was at least practicing at full speed with his team like LT.
:rolleyes: BEST post in this entire thread!

Portis hasn't even practiced fully yet.has knee swelling. we all know he has a surgically repaired shoulder, right?! and that shoulder has yet to be tested.and he's a hard-hitting RB.seriously now, how long will a rb like that last, with a bum shoulder AND a bum knee?!?

Portis = fools gold, imo..

Betts will lead that team in rushing..

you can have Portis, he's a waste of a roster spot, imo..
Just thought I would bump this
Please don't do that. nygiants56 is the only poster I have on IGNORE. When you quote him, I see his posts.TIA

 
If CP doesn't play this weekend vs N.Y. G-men then we worry no matter what right? Surely he'd play a little even if they were just being cautious this whole time; :shrug:
I will be shocked if he plays at all in the preseason. I'm not worried either way.
LT didn't play last year in preseason. He isn't playing this year either. Portis sees preseason as a waste of time, in which the only thing that happens is potential injury. He won't play this weekend.
Yeah, but LT at least is wearing pads and practicing with the offense, making cuts and so forth. Portis is running/conditioning. Not taking hits or wearing pads as far as I know. There are some major difference's. I'd feel better if Portis was at least practicing at full speed with his team like LT.
;) BEST post in this entire thread!

Portis hasn't even practiced fully yet.has knee swelling. we all know he has a surgically repaired shoulder, right?! and that shoulder has yet to be tested.and he's a hard-hitting RB.seriously now, how long will a rb like that last, with a bum shoulder AND a bum knee?!?

Portis = fools gold, imo..

Betts will lead that team in rushing..

you can have Portis, he's a waste of a roster spot, imo..
Just thought I would bump this
May as well, everybody will be bumping this thread all season long.....as Portis marches toward 1,500 yards and 10+ TDs.Can't wait for week 1. I expect 100 yds and a TD for Portis.

 
May as well, everybody will be bumping this thread all season long.....as Portis marches toward 1,500 yards and 10+ TDs.Can't wait for week 1. I expect 100 yds and a TD for Portis.
Given the slow start that I expect the offensive to have because of Samuels and Kendall, I'm not sure that we're going to immediately see what Portis can do.
 
I think most in this thread, except probably the giants guy, will have to agree that if it hadn't been for the persistent case of tendinitis everybody wouldn't have been so down on CP.

I mean, I decided to keep him and forfeit my 1st round pick in doing so, because I felt and still feel that he's the Skins best RB, he's in a great offensive/rb friendly scheme, he's a top 5 talent and he should be fully recovered from last year's injuries. The tendinitis is what got thisblown out of proportion (IMO) and his value at an all time low.

 
Had CP fall to me at 51 overall (4.3) last night ...took it and ran. Betts went 12 picks later to another owner. WOW.

However.. isn't it a little soon to consider him out of the woods?

There's 16 weeks that matter and I'll be shocked if he makes every start. Anyone else high on Portis feel this way?

 

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