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Call me crazy, but I think did more than just bat.
He's not quite Palmeiro but really he was a good (not great) player that played a lot of years and piled up stats. I'm not saying he wasn't a very good player-but HoF material? Years of being above average shouldn't be enough to push you in.
I'm not saying there aren't other players that don't belong in the Hall.
Bobby Crosby just won ROY...He was beloved by the fans, else he wouldn't have sniffed 19 All Star appearances.
SERIOUSLY. You don't know baseball if you have even an inkling that the most revolutionary SS of our generation who happens to have the above accolades and was the best at his position for YEARS doesnt belong in the Hall.
nothing else, IMO, 2 league MVPs should get you in the hall even if you only play 2 seasons...There are, what, 107 MVP awards going right now??? He has 2 of them... how many players have none? Yeah, I'd say Cal is one of the top 100 players, easy, just based on MVP awards alone...
This is not about baseball. This is a thread questioning Ripken's HoF credentials. It's just fishing, hence belongs in the FFA
table tennis forum must be down.
If he hadn't played so many games in a row he wouldn't have made it to the Hall. .276 is not anything special. Junior Spivey is a lifetime .270 hitter. Is .006 really that big of a difference?
You didn't answer my question.
OK, let's compare him with his HoF classmate Tony Gwynn.Gwynn has a huge edge in AVG, but Ripken has better career numbers in the other major categories. Both played solid defense in their prime, although Ripken did so at a more challenging position and without losing as much range late in his career.If you believe in runs created, Gwynn is much better there. Ripken used up a lot of outs. He's the career leader in GIDP which probably isn't on his plaque at Cooperstown.But if you close the doors on a guy like Ripken, you'll be left with a pretty restrictive club.
Guys, its fishing.These comments are getting more and more ridiculous.
JUNIOR SPIVEY! Killin' me.
Spivey hasn't been retired five years yet.Guys, its fishing.These comments are getting more and more ridiculous.
You're more than welcome to leave the thread.
It's not the Hall of "Hey, Everybody and His Brother is Welcome"
Is Billy Ripken's f*face baseball card in the Hall?
I'd prefer to see the thrashing.
IMO, that's what the HoF SHOULD be. What's wrong with making it a VERY exclusive club? You should only make it in if you're elite for a number of seasons...not pretty good forever. He's comparable to Jerome Bettis. I'm not saying Ripken was not a very, very good player. I wish he had been on my team. But aside from being iron man, his numbers are not extrordinary.
Spivey = lock
.270 over a 22 year career is a big deal...He had 5 years over .300, one over .340...from 1982 to 1999 the only season he hit less than 25 home runs was the strike shortened season (1994)... add 50 games to his totals and he would have had at least 25 homers... (he had 19 in 112 games) that, IMO, is HOF worthy, especially from a .270 lifetime hitter... 18 straight years hitting 25 or more homers with your only miss being a strike-shortened year where you were well on your way??? That is very impressive...the only time he went under 70 RBIs was his last 4 years... he only went under 80 twice not including those 4 years... under 90 6 times... which means he was over 90 8 times and over 100 4 of those times...did I mention that in his 2,302 games at SS he fielded .979??similar BATTERS to Ripken are guys like: Dave Winfield, Robin Yount, Al Kaline, Eddie Murray, Carl Yastrzemski, Craig Biggio, George Brett, & Tony Perez.... all HOFers except Biggio who is likely on his way there...
2 MVPS = elite for a number of seasons....ESPECIALLY when they are a decade apart...
Don'tWhy *shouldn't* the Hall be a near impossible club to get into?
me. You're dumber than Shawn Kemp if you believe the #### you're posting.
so who's left then. Here are the non-Veterans Committee players who have been voted in since 2000.FiskT. PerezPuckettWinfieldO. SmithG. CarterMurrayEckersleyMolitorBoggsSandbergSutter GwynnRipken had the highest percentage of voters of any of them.
Racist
Take down the plaque
Was hoping to summon Bogart into this thread.
:hits gavel on sound block: case closed
Why are you talking about batting average like it's a meaningful stat? You're not real into baseball, are you?Find me a shortstop in the 1980s with OPS numbers comparable to Ripken and then maybe you wouldn't sound like you're fishing.
There's also Robin Yount, but he's in the HOF too.
It's also not the Hall of "Players with High Batting Averages"Would you rather have a guy like Bill Madlock in the Hall instead of Ripken?
Honus Wagner only had 101 career HRs
I'd put him 5th at best. Honus, A-Rod, Arky Vaughan and Jeter are all ahead of him. Maybe someone else I'm missing too.
I'd say Yount if Yount would have stayed at SS... but since he moved, he kinda gets screwed in "greatest at <position>" arguments...
