Calling all Santonio Holmes owners! (1 Viewer)

[CMU37484]

If anyone has Holmes and was on the fence with starting him, get him in your lineup. I expect at least 6-8 catches for 90-120 yards and possibly a score.

 

[Nate]

Thanks!

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[shakeybarn]

I think only a little more work is in store if they alter the passing game. Hines was the workhorse, while Holmes is more of the deep threat/finesse. Unless Holmes is goin across the middle, and doing the quick curls and ins that Hines is responsible for... a la 20yd/rec vs 12yd/rec.

In fact, if I'm Seattle why not take away the deeper threat and sidelines of Holmes and make Nate Washington or whomever beat you in the shorter field.

Just ask Randy Moss about going across the middle, and taking on the grunt work. Unless I'm mistaken, Holmes is more the home-run, while Hines was hitting the singles and doubles... via the route selection.

I like Holmes and think the cat is out of the bag, but I don't see Hines out ...helping Holmes much, if at all.

That being said, your projections are close... I think Holmes was underperforming the first couple weeks... and he's start vs Sea with/without Hines.

Shame he's on ZERO of my teams. Just didn't turn out this year.

 

[urbanhack]

If anyone has Holmes and was on the fence with starting him, get him in your lineup. I expect at least 6-8 catches for 90-120 yards and possibly a score.

wow...you mean something similar to last week??!!Thanks for the alert!

 

[RBM]

Definitely excited to plug Holmes in this week, but Marcus Trufant is looking very good so far.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

I'm not ruling out a big game from Holmes as he's clearly the Steelers best big play threat in the passing game...But Trufant and Jennings definitely have the speed to run with him, and they'll get a lot of safety help with him on obvious passing downs. As Shakeybarn stated, I think the Seahawks are going to make Nate Washington beat them.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Definitely excited to plug Holmes in this week, but Marcus Trufant is looking very good so far.

You can't handle the Truf

 

[ThePittbully]

I think I may still sit him for Branch, Roy and Fitz

 

[shakeybarn]

I think I may still sit him for Branch, Roy and Fitz

No offense, PitBully, but looking at your sig... is that a 6 team league???Manning, Maroney, Fitz, Roy, Gore, MJD, AP, Thomas, Portis.... that's like 8 players that go within the first 4 rounds in most drafts.

 

[mad sweeney]

I think only a little more work is in store if they alter the passing game. Hines was the workhorse, while Holmes is more of the deep threat/finesse. Unless Holmes is goin across the middle, and doing the quick curls and ins that Hines is responsible for... a la 20yd/rec vs 12yd/rec.In fact, if I'm Seattle why not take away the deeper threat and sidelines of Holmes and make Nate Washington or whomever beat you in the shorter field. Just ask Randy Moss about going across the middle, and taking on the grunt work. Unless I'm mistaken, Holmes is more the home-run, while Hines was hitting the singles and doubles... via the route selection. I like Holmes and think the cat is out of the bag, but I don't see Hines out ...helping Holmes much, if at all.That being said, your projections are close... I think Holmes was underperforming the first couple weeks... and he's start vs Sea with/without Hines. Shame he's on ZERO of my teams. Just didn't turn out this year.

That's what they did against Cinci. No one had a deep play, Housh's TD was a pick by CJ. Now, they still both racked up over 100 yards but I don't see that happening here since the PB running game should do better than Cinci. But the improved Hawk secondary isn't giving up the big play. I'm leaning on him heavy this weekend but I'll be happy with 80 and a TD, I just don't like his chances of breaking one big.

 

[ThePittbully]

I think I may still sit him for Branch, Roy and Fitz

No offense, PitBully, but looking at your sig... is that a 6 team league???Manning, Maroney, Fitz, Roy, Gore, MJD, AP, Thomas, Portis.... that's like 8 players that go within the first 4 rounds in most drafts.

Its a 12 team dynasty, and yea my team looks great on paper, but Ive started very slow. Im 2 and 2edit: just realized you said Thomas...what league is he goin in the first four rounds in???

 

[Irish]

I think only a little more work is in store if they alter the passing game. Hines was the workhorse, while Holmes is more of the deep threat/finesse. Unless Holmes is goin across the middle, and doing the quick curls and ins that Hines is responsible for... a la 20yd/rec vs 12yd/rec.In fact, if I'm Seattle why not take away the deeper threat and sidelines of Holmes and make Nate Washington or whomever beat you in the shorter field. Just ask Randy Moss about going across the middle, and taking on the grunt work. Unless I'm mistaken, Holmes is more the home-run, while Hines was hitting the singles and doubles... via the route selection. I like Holmes and think the cat is out of the bag, but I don't see Hines out ...helping Holmes much, if at all.That being said, your projections are close... I think Holmes was underperforming the first couple weeks... and he's start vs Sea with/without Hines. Shame he's on ZERO of my teams. Just didn't turn out this year.

That's what they did against Cinci. No one had a deep play, Housh's TD was a pick by CJ. Now, they still both racked up over 100 yards but I don't see that happening here since the PB running game should do better than Cinci. But the improved Hawk secondary isn't giving up the big play. I'm leaning on him heavy this weekend but I'll be happy with 80 and a TD, I just don't like his chances of breaking one big.

I think FWP is in for a huge game and that will open up the play action passing game and Holmes will benefit from at least one long pass for a TD.

 

[mad sweeney]

I think only a little more work is in store if they alter the passing game. Hines was the workhorse, while Holmes is more of the deep threat/finesse. Unless Holmes is goin across the middle, and doing the quick curls and ins that Hines is responsible for... a la 20yd/rec vs 12yd/rec.In fact, if I'm Seattle why not take away the deeper threat and sidelines of Holmes and make Nate Washington or whomever beat you in the shorter field. Just ask Randy Moss about going across the middle, and taking on the grunt work. Unless I'm mistaken, Holmes is more the home-run, while Hines was hitting the singles and doubles... via the route selection. I like Holmes and think the cat is out of the bag, but I don't see Hines out ...helping Holmes much, if at all.That being said, your projections are close... I think Holmes was underperforming the first couple weeks... and he's start vs Sea with/without Hines. Shame he's on ZERO of my teams. Just didn't turn out this year.

That's what they did against Cinci. No one had a deep play, Housh's TD was a pick by CJ. Now, they still both racked up over 100 yards but I don't see that happening here since the PB running game should do better than Cinci. But the improved Hawk secondary isn't giving up the big play. I'm leaning on him heavy this weekend but I'll be happy with 80 and a TD, I just don't like his chances of breaking one big.

I think FWP is in for a huge game and that will open up the play action passing game and Holmes will benefit from at least one long pass for a TD.

we'll see. The new safeties of Grant and Russell have been outstanding at playing the PA, Trufant is putting in a good effort at earning some probowl votes. They've contained some pretty good receivers so far (Galloway, Cj, TJ, Fitz, Boldin, Djax) by putting pressure on the QB and not getting beat deep, letting the LBs and improved DL handle the run first. After a couple of infamous letdowns late in games last year, not getting beat deep is a serious goal for the D and so far they are doing well. I expect decent stats from the Pit O, but not great. And I have Parker, Holmes and Rothlisjerker in several leagues. I agree with the assessment that they will take away the deep ball and force a lot of short passes.

 

[CMU37484]

Short or long, if Holmes catches 6-8 passes that'll be fine with me.

 

[rascal]

Definitely excited to plug Holmes in this week, but Marcus Trufant is looking very good so far.

You can't handle the Truf

But will he be going up against Holmes all game or does he play one side of the field?

 

[shakeybarn]

Ummm, where's everybody... at Noah's???? Pickin' up the bagels Santonio is servin' pipin' hot today???!!

 

[Das Boot]

Ummm, where's everybody... at Noah's???? Pickin' up the bagels Santonio is servin' pipin' hot today???!!

Mmmmm... doughnuts.