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Sorry, should've stated that. Yes, it's PPR and we can start up to 5 WRs. I have AJ, Roy W., Mark Clayton already.
That one
Me too!
Not wanting to hijack this thread... but how would you rank the top4 rookies (Peterson / Lynch / Johnson - "big dropoff" plus your choice of RB / Jarrett / Ginn) in that kind of setup:Start: 1RB/2WR/2Flex... where Flex: max1RB and max1WRScoring: RB: 1pt/15yds + 6pts/TD;WR: 1pt/20yds + 6pts/TD + ppr;TE: 1pt/15yds + 6pts/TD + pprI know we need to factor in where they go and your current roster... but based on talent... how do you see them performing (long term) in that setup?
If he stays then using the 1.1 dynasty pick on him would be a bad move.
wannabet?
I've picked worse...
I have read a ton on this subject and would love a link proving me wrong.wannabet?
No link. It's common sense. Football is his future and he literally has nothing to gain by staying in school. For every guy like Matt Leinart, there are a dozen guys who take the money and run. I say he's as good as gone. Take it to the bank.wannabee said:I have read a ton on this subject and would love a link proving me wrong.EBF said:wannabet?wannabee said:
I do not disagree. But, his family, iirc, has money so that is not an issue like many other prospects. He chose GTech, even as a top HS prospect, because he wanted a great education. And, he has said all along that he wants his degree. So, while I agree that logic would have Johnson in the 2007 draft, it is not a done deal as many suggest.No link. It's common sense. Football is his future and he literally has nothing to gain by staying in school. For every guy like Matt Leinart, there are a dozen guys who take the money and run. I say he's as good as gone. Take it to the bank.wannabee said:I have read a ton on this subject and would love a link proving me wrong.EBF said:wannabet?wannabee said:
It's never final until it's final, but I think it's safer to operate under the assumption that he'll be in the draft than it is to assume that he'll return to school. Nothing will stop him from finishing up at Tech after he banks his tens of millions.I do not disagree. But, his family, iirc, has money so that is not an issue like many other prospects. He chose GTech, even as a top HS prospect, because he wanted a great education. And, he has said all along that he wants his degree. So, while I agree that logic would have Johnson in the 2007 draft, it is not a done deal as many suggest.No link. It's common sense. Football is his future and he literally has nothing to gain by staying in school. For every guy like Matt Leinart, there are a dozen guys who take the money and run. I say he's as good as gone. Take it to the bank.wannabee said:I have read a ton on this subject and would love a link proving me wrong.EBF said:wannabet?wannabee said:
Like I said, I do not disagree that Johnson is probably coming out. But, for fantasy drafts it is a HUGE issue and it is not safe to assume. My reasoning is that this makes it riskier to trade for 1.03. You could pay a fair price for Lynch/Johnson today and end up overpaying for Quinn or Jarrett if Johnson stays in school. I am still trying to trade for 1.02 and 1.03, but I do understand that there is some risk, albeit minimal, to assuming CJohnson is coming out.It's never final until it's final, but I think it's safer to operate under the assumption that he'll be in the draft than it is to assume that he'll return to school. Nothing will stop him from finishing up at Tech after he banks his tens of millions.I do not disagree. But, his family, iirc, has money so that is not an issue like many other prospects. He chose GTech, even as a top HS prospect, because he wanted a great education. And, he has said all along that he wants his degree. So, while I agree that logic would have Johnson in the 2007 draft, it is not a done deal as many suggest.No link. It's common sense. Football is his future and he literally has nothing to gain by staying in school. For every guy like Matt Leinart, there are a dozen guys who take the money and run. I say he's as good as gone. Take it to the bank.wannabee said:I have read a ton on this subject and would love a link proving me wrong.EBF said:wannabet?wannabee said:
FitzOnly if AP's career is pockmarked with injuriesNo
You most have missed the part about it being a PPR/start up to 5 wrs league. Johnson is easily 1st overall in such a setupbigmurd said:
I get it now
Who are you're current RB's at the time? I'll be able to answer this question when you provide us with your entire roster. If you want to make youre life easier, put your team in your signature.KarmaPolice said:
Horrible advise, there's enough huge signatures as it is
Well, as I stated in an earlier post- I try to draft purely on talent in dynasty leagues. I need a RB a bit, but if CJ is sure-fire, can't miss player I'll still take him and get the best RB at the 1.5 spot. My roster (14 team dynasty)Manning/CutlerCaddy/Rhodes/NorwoodAJ/Roy/Mark Clayton/Bryant JohnsonCrumpler + about 5 other TEsWe have flexible lineups, so we start anything from a 2-2-1 to a 0-5-0.
Does that mean that there are no question marks for RBs? AP could be LT or he could be Ron Dayne. The Fitz/Jackson question is not that cut and dry. I was in a couple rookie drafts that Fitz went #1. Depends on league scoring and setup.
So people can see that I don't know how to spell Marques Colston? No thanks.
I personally will be taking Peterson, but CJ isn't that far behind IMO. My league starts 3-5 WRs, 0-2 RBs. If I wasn't losing Tiki this year (probably), and didn't have 5 really good young WRs (JW, Evans, Edwards, MJones, Roy) plus Hines Ward, I'd be more conflicted, or at least trade down. FWIW, in this league, Charles Rogers and AJ went 1-2, while McGahee and LJ fell to 3-4. If you're set at RB, CJ wouldn't be a bad pick.
Then we may as well move this thread to the AC forum as it has no place here.If it's in the shark pool, we're talking about standard leagues. Otherwise it's a poorly disguised "who should I pick?" question.
A thread discussing if Calvin is worthy of a #1 dynasty pick doesn't belong in the Shark Pool??
I'm going to assume you're just being a smart### and aren't actually so incapable of reading comprehension as to think that was what I was saying, so I'll spell it out for you again."Is Calvin Johnson worth the 1.01 rookie pick in dynasty leagues" is Shark Pool talk."I have the 1.01 pick in my non-standard league where we start 5 WRs and get a point per reception and my current WR crops is x, y, and z, in my situation is CJ worth the 1.01 rookie pick" is certainly an AC question. Just because you spread it out into a couple posts doesn't make your poorly disguised attempt to get help with your very specific question any more relevant to this forum.To even think of claiming otherwise is nothing short of lying.And it has even further developed into you asking who you should take with your other rookie pick as well. What could've actually been an interesting topic (CJ and the 1.01 pick in general) was ruined by you introducing the specifics of non-standard starting requirements, current WR corps, and even an additional rookie pick into the mix.But hey, next time I am in a PPR league where I can start 5 WRs, have that same current WR corps, and have rookie picks 1.01 and 1.05 for the 2007 draft I'll make sure and reference this thread
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especially for the offseason. Discussion during the offseason is what makes this board the best.
No link. It's common sense. Football is his future and he literally has nothing to gain by staying in school. For every guy like Matt Leinart, there are a dozen guys who take the money and run. I say he's as good as gone. Take it to the bank.wannabee said:I have read a ton on this subject and would love a link proving me wrong.EBF said:wannabet?wannabee said:
EXACTLYits common sense. johnson is a top 5 pick waiting to happen. he was born to play football. there is no point for him to stay in school. no point.
RB's are more risky picks now in dynasty than they've ever been in the last 30-40 years. It's because more teams are using a RBBC (or close to it) approach. Bush, Maroney, Williams and Addai are all examples of that; LenDale White isn't even really playing. It used to be that you could depend upon a highly drafted RB to start right away and put up good numbers, at worst by the second half of his rookie season. That, in contrast to the 2-3 year learning curve for WR's, tended to be why you liked rookie RB's over rookie WR's. In recent years though, not only have rookie RB's tended to play less, but rookie WR's have tended to play more. Boldin, Colston and Fitzgerald are only a few of the most prominent examples, but there are others. In short, the general advantages to drafting a RB over a WR early in dynasty drafts has diminished, if not disappeared altogether. It's still a decision that is greatly dependent upon their showing from the end of the year to NFL draft day, but the trend is still to reduce the importance of that consideration.
