Calvin Johnson (1 Viewer)

[turkishkamel]

That last pass to set up the game winning field goal was a thing of beauty.

The pass itself was a bit ugly. The catch was beautiful. Had Stafford put that ball inside, Calvin goes to the house. Stafford led him outside, into the DB and Calvin did a good job of repositioning, fighting through contact and catching the ball straight over his head instead of over the shoulder.

considering Greenway was bearing down on him and he threw it while backpedaling, is was actually pretty damn good throw

 

[spider321]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

And he also had one of the best qbs in the league all time throwing in Montana, and a coach in Bill Walsh who was running the Westcoast offense before anyone knew much about it, or how to defend it. He revolutionized the passing game and the Dbs, defense were scrubs in that year compared to what we have now. Calvin is unstoppable and a superfreak and I think 25 is reasonable after seeing that video, if both stay healthy.

Aw where to begin with the misinformation.First of all Rice had 22 TDs in 12 games, not 20.Secondly he didnt play against replacement players. The reason he only played 12 games is because the regulars missed 3 games due to the strike and the season was also reduced from 16 to 15.Third, he did play that season with Montana an all time great but if you look at the numbers, Rice BLEW AWAY every all time WR record yet Montana only threw for more than 30 TDs once. Taking nothing away from Montana but think about that for a second.Fourth, Bill Walsh was running the "West Coast offense" as a coordinator for the Bengals in the 70s. He was head coach of the 49ers from 1979 to 1988. Jerry Rice's remarkable season was in 1987. NFL coaches are pretty smart guys when it comes to football. I think they had some sort of idea of what they were facing after seeing it for over a decade.Fifth, the notion that DBs and defenses were "scrubs" compared to what we have now is SILLY. Because of advances in training and nutrition guys are more athletic overall now but that goes for both sides of the ball. And Rice played against the greatest cover corner of all time and many other HOF DBs. And as pointed out, this was when you could actually play pass defense and not get flagged every time you breath on a WR past five yards down the field.Anyways, back on topic. I think Calvin has a very real chance at Moss' record as long as he and Stafford stay healthy. He's an athletic marvel and fun to watch but let's please not try to poorly rewrite history here.

"Pwnt" I believe is the word the kids are using these days. The DB's were allowed to hang on to and hold the WR's in those days, and Jerry still dominated every Sunday.Calvin is the best in the game today, but it's not fair to compare ANYONE to Jerry Rice, EVER.

 

[Grahamburn]

The Dallas secondary and defense as a whole is pretty banged up, and will be coming off a short week. 2 more TDs this week, or can the Cowboys keep Calvin out of the end zone?

 

[FantasyTrader]

I'm loving this as a Calvin owner. I'm worried that at some point on one of these end zone jump balls, a DB will go ahead and let him catch the TD pass and just focus on placing his foot wherever Calvin is coming down. That's about the only defense at this point is to purposely try and sprain or snap the ankle.

And don't think for a minute this is out of the realm for an NFL defense to try.

 

[yoadrian]

I'm loving this as a Calvin owner. I'm worried that at some point on one of these end zone jump balls, a DB will go ahead and let him catch the TD pass and just focus on placing his foot wherever Calvin is coming down. That's about the only defense at this point is to purposely try and sprain or snap the ankle.And don't think for a minute this is out of the realm for an NFL defense to try.

Sweep the leg!

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

TD's come in waves. He will end up with about 12 (floor) to 14 (ceiling). The Packers and Bears will not allow him in the endzone. They will sellout on him. No single coverage.

Calvin scored three times in four games against the Packers and Bears last year. And neither of those defenses appears to be as dominant this year as they were last year. To answer the question, yes, I think he can break it, but I think around 17-18 is the likely end result (assuming he stays healthy).

As a comparison, when Moss set the record with 23 TD catches in 2007, he had:

-3 games with zero TD catches

-7 games with two TD catches

-1 game with more than two TD catches (when he had four against Buffalo)

This is where Calvin will fall short - I don't see the Lions offense being good enough to do something like that. 20 TD's is certainly possible though.

 

[Grahamburn]

I agree that Calvin will have to put up a 2+ TD game somewhere along the way, which is certainly possible.

He had a 3 TD game last season vs. Washington. Stafford also missed him early in the Tampa Bay game for a sure TD, and Calvin could have had another pair of TDs in the Viking game. One of Minnesota's DBs made a great play to tip a pass that would have resulted in a score, and the 40 yard grab in OT could have gone the distance if the throw would have led Calvin a little more to the inside and down the field.

If it doesn't happen it won't be for lack of opportunity.

 

[The Dynasty]

http://twitter.com/#!/Staff_9/status/118797234572754944

@Staff_9 Does anyone think 8 tds in 4 weeks will change chris carters mind about an "elite" receiver? #megatron

 

[De Novo]

I agree that Calvin will have to put up a 2+ TD game somewhere along the way, which is certainly possible.

I don't necessarily agree here. He has 3 games with 2. He will get 24 if he does this the rest of the way:0 TDs - 2 games1 TD - 4 games2 TD - 7 gamesIt's obviously easier to get there with a 3+ TD game, but 1 fewer 0 or 1 TD is just as good or better.

 

[Grahamburn]

I agree that Calvin will have to put up a 2+ TD game somewhere along the way, which is certainly possible.

I don't necessarily agree here. He has 3 games with 2. He will get 24 if he does this the rest of the way:0 TDs - 2 games1 TD - 4 games2 TD - 7 gamesIt's obviously easier to get there with a 3+ TD game, but 1 fewer 0 or 1 TD is just as good or better.

Fair enough, but it's tough to be consistent enough to have 7 more 2 TD games . I just feel like he'll need a couple huge games to actually be in a position to break it. Is asking for a monster 4 TD performance against Dallas' depleted secondary too much?

 

[billymays]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.

“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dez

wow

 

[Rick James]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

 

[Trizzler]

Apparently Rob subscribes to the Chris Carter school of receiver ideology.

That's a pretty awful slam and I'm sure Calvin would love to make him look like a fool. None of the Dallas DBs are good enough to successfully challenge Megatron in a one-on-one situation, and no combo of them even seems reliable against the best receiver currently in the NFL.

 

[mcintyre1]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.

"We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant," Ryan said. "They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He's almost that good. He's excellent.

http://espn.go.com/b...below-miles-dez

wow

I think this is Calvin's 4 TD game. Stafford is going to force feed him the ball in the redzone time after time after a quote like that. He's too stubborn and cocky not to.

 

[De Novo]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

Not a big deal? Unless he's planning on getting inside Calvin's head, this is added fuel to the quest for Megatron TDs.

 

[jon_mx]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

I am thinking that is not who it will pump up.

 

[cubbie5150]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

I am thinking that is not who it will pump up.

Please....keep marginalizing Megatron!! Not that he necessarily needs extra motivation, but I love this!

 

[FavreCo]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

Sounds like a guy that plans on quad covering Calvin in order to back up his big mouth.

 

[Jayrod]

I don't see how a DB (or 2) could ever stop CJ on a jump ball fade that was thrown decently. The best bet is to jam him at the line and not let him get to where the ball is going to be...but then you risk missing and just getting beat for an easy slant.

 

[Dought Man]

There is no way the Cowboys let him have a big day this week. They will take him away.

 

[Dez]

NO

 

[mbuehner]

Did i pass out and wake up in week 14? Come on...

 

[ConnSKINS26]

There is no way the Cowboys let him have a big day this week. They will take him away.

How? When was the last time a Cowboy's DB could reliably "take" someone away from an offense recently? Mike Jenkin's one good year? Terrence Newman in his prime?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Did i pass out and wake up in week 14? Come on...

Yeah, what this guy said. Or maybe we should wait till week 16. That way its definitely a possibility, and we don't waste our time speculating. Because that's ridiculous, on a FF message board.

 

[SproutDaddy]

There is no way the Cowboys let him have a big day this week. They will take him away.

We are talking about the Cowboys secondary.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.

“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dez

wow

Sounds like a guy that plans on quad covering Calvin in order to back up his big mouth.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

TD's come in waves. He will end up with about 12 (floor) to 14 (ceiling). The Packers and Bears will not allow him in the endzone. They will sellout on him. No single coverage.

He's 6'5. What are 2 or 3 5'8-5'10 corners do? Get on each others shoulders?

 

[jon_mx]

TD's come in waves. He will end up with about 12 (floor) to 14 (ceiling). The Packers and Bears will not allow him in the endzone. They will sellout on him. No single coverage.

He's 6'5. What are 2 or 3 5'8-5'10 corners do? Get on each others shoulders?

Well the Bears, Minnesota, and Green Bay do have the 26th, 29th, and 31st rated pass defenses in the NFL. How could Calvin possibly score against that? I mean really, just because someone like Dane Sanzenbacher can score against the Pack, doesn't mean Megatron can. The Packers just won't allow it.

 

[jurb26]

Calvin will be doubled all day long vs. the Cowboys. I think Pettigrew is a great start. He should see some easy matchups on the inside with the Safety help on Calvin.

 

[Short Corner]

Calvin will be doubled all day long vs. the Cowboys. I think Pettigrew is a great start. He should see some easy matchups on the inside with the Safety help on Calvin.

Doubling him in the red zone is pointless unless you put one guy on the other guys shoulders

 

[Gopher State]

Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan said Friday, Sept. 30, that Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson is a great receiver, but not as good as the Cowboys' receiving duo of WRs Miles Austin and Dez Bryant. Johnson has two touchdowns in each of the Lions' three games so far. "We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant. They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there," Ryan

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1ZYRGEH51

 

[jon_mx]

There is no way Stafford doesn't try to get Calvin three TD's this week. You don't dish Calvin.

 

[strong]

I've only seen the highlights, not actual games. But every time I see Stafford tossing it up high to CJ in the red zone, it just looks like stealing. I mean what can you do really?

1. like he said, its still unlikely, but that fade on the goaline is unfair to even watch. It is such an unbelievable site when you see Calvin go up and get a jump ball like that. Its literally one of the most beautiful things in football to watch IMO.2. Your profile picture is phenomenal

Edit to add: Also I want point out that I've noticed a lot of people that say Calvin's ball skills are overrated. I wanna let you all know (the ones have not watched him)...THAT IS A BUNCH OF BOLOGNA.

how could anyone say that? since college, that guy has made my jaw drop more than any other receiver. he makes d-backs look like children grasping at a ball that's out of reach.

 

[Bad_Mo]

No, simply because he will be injured. Not sure how many weeks, but its pretty much guaranteed.

 

[Grahamburn]

Calvin will be doubled all day long vs. the Cowboys. I think Pettigrew is a great start. He should see some easy matchups on the inside with the Safety help on Calvin.

Do you think there are any games where Calvin isn't doubled all day long?Enjoying all the doubters...

 

[Dought Man]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..

There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

 

[Ladsud]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

Is he suiting up this weekend? if Lions get within 5 yards of the goal line he is scoring.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

His guys or the other team's guys?

 

[SproutDaddy]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

Spoken like a delusional Cowboy fan.

 

[Seekay]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

Can I quote you on that? Oh wait, I just did.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

 

[kutta]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

With your username, there is no convincing you otherwise, no matter what, so you win.

 

[MSULions]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

why in god's name would he give them that kind of motivation though? completely unnecessary and idiotic if you ask me. It's pretty clear Stafford is already set on throwing as many TDs to Calvin as possible, but this is precisely the kind of comment that will bring it out even more. never mind the fact that neither of those guys is likely to even be playing tomorrow.

 

[Instinctive]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

With your username, there is no convincing you otherwise, no matter what, so you win.

So does Rice's record not count because Don Hutson was better than him at everything when you factor in the eras? Including TD recs in a season?Edit: Oh, yeah:

 

[thatguythere]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.“We work against better receivers with Miles Austin and Dez Bryant,” Ryan said. “They are probably two of the premier receivers in football, but this guy is right there. He’s almost that good. He’s excellent. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4684594/rob-ryan-megatron-is-cut-below-miles-dezwow

just a coach pumping up his own guys, not a big deal

why in god's name would he give them that kind of motivation though? completely unnecessary and idiotic if you ask me. It's pretty clear Stafford is already set on throwing as many TDs to Calvin as possible, but this is precisely the kind of comment that will bring it out even more. never mind the fact that neither of those guys is likely to even be playing tomorrow.

Exactly, how much practice did the Cowboy's DB's have against Austin and Bryant in the last couple weeks. Oh that's right, none. Austin and Bryant are not in the same tier as Calvin...sorry. Giving him more motivation to go out and shove it in your face is downright stupid. Captain Caveman needs to find some other type of motivation, because there isn't anyone on the Cowboys that lock down Calvin. Miles Austin 6'2" 215Dez Bryant 6'2" 218CALVIN 6'5" 236 <<<Cowboys corners are 5'10"ish and average under 200 pounds. Good Luck.

 

[eakfootball]

If both he and Stafford stay healthy I will predict 19 from him.

 

[jon_mx]

Let's see, Calvin is faster than the CB's with a 4.33 40. Then between his 6" height advantage and another 4" in arm length and throw in his 43 inch vertical just for fun, Calvin probably has a near 18" advantage over the Dallas corners. Exactly how is that air space gonna be shut down?

 

[cubbie5150]

Let's see, Calvin is faster than the CB's with a 4.33 40. Then between his 6" height advantage and another 4" in arm length and throw in his 43 inch vertical just for fun, Calvin probably has a near 18" advantage over the Dallas corners. Exactly how is that air space gonna be shut down?

Methinks Stafford is gonna have a tough time getting the ball to him. Dallas pass rush is gonna be brutal (Det tackles are vulnerable)

 

[jurb26]

Let's see, Calvin is faster than the CB's with a 4.33 40. Then between his 6" height advantage and another 4" in arm length and throw in his 43 inch vertical just for fun, Calvin probably has a near 18" advantage over the Dallas corners. Exactly how is that air space gonna be shut down?

Methinks Stafford is gonna have a tough time getting the ball to him. Dallas pass rush is gonna be brutal (Det tackles are vulnerable)

Det will need to use short passes to neutralize the Dal pass rush. That added with the fact that Dal will likely double Megatron a lot should mean a big day for the TEs IMO. Dal can't cover either of Det's TEs if you ask me. They also can't cover Megatron but I think the pass rush will at least help that situation by not giving Stafford a lot of time to sit in the pocket and Megatron get deep.I'm very interested to see if Det can run the ball at all in this game.

 

[jon_mx]

Detroit Run Game = Dump off to RB's and TE's.