Calvin Johnson (2 Viewers)

[LittlePhatty]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

Please, no one bump this to gloat or anything. Let's just leave it alone.

 

[zandbak]

This guy....

 

[jon_mx]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

Please, no one bump this to gloat or anything. Let's just leave it alone.

good idea.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Rob Ryan-Megatron is cut below Miles and Dez.

Heh. Rob put 12 men on the field and Calving still got a TD.OK, it's bump-worthy now.

 

[SacramentoBob]

sorry gang..this isn't the week for Calvin. 70 yards and no touchdowns..There is a lot being made of Ryan's comments and he will ensure no touchdowns tomorrow.

Can I quote you on that? Oh wait, I just did.

 

[jon_mx]

There is no way the Cowboys let him have a big day this week. They will take him away.

Lots of good postings going around today.

 

[Oh Yes!]

His name IS dought man

 

[adrenaline]

 

[Ilov80s]

Best part today, TD #1 Calvin was triple teamed and TD #2 Dallas had 12 guys in on a goal line situation.

 

[Manster]

Stafford to Megatron=FF gold!!!

If they both stay healthy, then the answer to the original question is YES

 

[jon_mx]

I guess the Calvin critics who said he rarely faces double coverage might have been right. It is normally triple coverage.

 

[thatguy]

Stafford to Megatron=FF gold!!!If they both stay healthy, then the answer to the original question is YES

Agreed.

 

[kutta]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

With your username, there is no convincing you otherwise, no matter what, so you win.

So does Rice's record not count because Don Hutson was better than him at everything when you factor in the eras? Including TD recs in a season?Edit: Oh, yeah:

Um, what?

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

Are you not going to account for the development of pass defenses in the past 30 years? The 49ers were way ahead of their time and defenses had a hard time catching up.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

I agree that Calvin will have to put up a 2+ TD game somewhere along the way, which is certainly possible.

I don't necessarily agree here. He has 3 games with 2. He will get 24 if he does this the rest of the way:0 TDs - 2 games

1 TD - 4 games

2 TD - 7 games

It's obviously easier to get there with a 3+ TD game, but 1 fewer 0 or 1 TD is just as good or better.

Fair enough, but it's tough to be consistent enough to have 7 more 2 TD games . I just feel like he'll need a couple huge games to actually be in a position to break it. Is asking for a monster 4 TD performance against Dallas' depleted secondary too much?

Yes, but now he 'only' needs eight 1 TD games and four 2 TD games. It's going to be tough to get a TD every week so a 3+ TD week would make it much more likely.

 

[Instinctive]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

With your username, there is no convincing you otherwise, no matter what, so you win.

So does Rice's record not count because Don Hutson was better than him at everything when you factor in the eras? Including TD recs in a season?Edit: Oh, yeah:

Um, what?

Simply adding to your post - more of a reply to ninerfanatic bro. Thought that was simple to understand...

 

[Instinctive]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

Are you not going to account for the development of pass defenses in the past 30 years? The 49ers were way ahead of their time and defenses had a hard time catching up.

Not to mention that if we were going to account for era, everything Don Hutson did was drastically better than anything Rice ever did - the eras argument is stupid to me. The game changes...players change with it. You honestly don't think Calvin Johnson would be unable to do what he does now if it was 30 years ago? A guy who outjumps everyone by 2 feet outjumps everyone regardless of era...

 

[SWC]

30 years ago cavlin johnson might have scored about 35 tds with his talents who would even have come close to stopping him back then noone that s who

 

[kutta]

Randy's record could be broken, Rice's 20TD in 12games in the mauling of WR's era will never be broken.

What if he has 24 TDs through 12 games this year?

Also, didn't Rice set that record against replacement players in a strike season? Not as impressive when you're playing scrubs every week.

season was 15games as they cancelled week3. weeks 4-6 the replacement players played. so you do the math. Montana as customary of that period got hurt and missed games and it was Youngs first year with the team so not the future HOF'er in skill level just yet. 24TD's in 12 games in this era would not mean nearly the same as 20 in 12games in the 80's. in the same sense Peyton/Brady breaking Marino's single season TD record is only a record in stat but not by anyone who realizes the era's they played.

With your username, there is no convincing you otherwise, no matter what, so you win.

So does Rice's record not count because Don Hutson was better than him at everything when you factor in the eras? Including TD recs in a season?Edit: Oh, yeah:

Um, what?

Simply adding to your post - more of a reply to ninerfanatic bro. Thought that was simple to understand...

I'm bleary-eyed. I thought you were ninerfanatic. My bad.

 

[De Novo]

I agree that Calvin will have to put up a 2+ TD game somewhere along the way, which is certainly possible.

I don't necessarily agree here. He has 3 games with 2. He will get 24 if he does this the rest of the way:0 TDs - 2 games

1 TD - 4 games

2 TD - 7 games

It's obviously easier to get there with a 3+ TD game, but 1 fewer 0 or 1 TD is just as good or better.

Fair enough, but it's tough to be consistent enough to have 7 more 2 TD games . I just feel like he'll need a couple huge games to actually be in a position to break it. Is asking for a monster 4 TD performance against Dallas' depleted secondary too much?

Yes, but now he 'only' needs eight 1 TD games and four 2 TD games. It's going to be tough to get a TD every week so a 3+ TD week would make it much more likely.

Obviously, a 3 TD game makes it more likely. But he can also break the record with:0 TDs - 2 games

1 TD - 4 games

2 TD - 6 games

In light of what he's done thus far, those numbers seem reasonable. It's not as if teams aren't double covering him. Stafford is throwing it to him anyway.

With every 2 TD game he gets, the accomplishment gets easier.

 

[faulkfan]

I don't think he'll break the record, but it is sure fun to watch him try and the Lions win.

 

[jurb26]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

 

[Ilov80s]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

What is the point of doubling him? Unless you mean have the CB climb up on the shoulders of the safety. We saw what happened with the 3 guys trying to bracket him- he leaped over them all.

 

[jurb26]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

What is the point of doubling him? Unless you mean have the CB climb up on the shoulders of the safety. We saw what happened with the 3 guys trying to bracket him- he leaped over them all.

I'm not saying it would work. Just that it really hasn't been done as much as you would think. As a Stafford owner, I encourage teams to continue with their current approach.

 

[MSULions]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

he's not getting doubled as much because they finally got a few other weapons. when you also have to deal with titus young, burleson, and pettigrew/scheffler it's a pick your poison situation.

 

[cubbie5150]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

he's not getting doubled as much because they finally got a few other weapons. when you also have to deal with titus young, burleson, and pettigrew/scheffler it's a pick your poison situation.

Yeah, what do peeps expect DC's to do? Leave other Lion receivers wide freakin' open in the red zone?

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

It will be interesting to see what happens next week when they are on MNF. You can bet that Stafford and Calvin want to put a show on for a national audience.

 

[jurb26]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

he's not getting doubled as much because they finally got a few other weapons. when you also have to deal with titus young, burleson, and pettigrew/scheffler it's a pick your poison situation.

Yeah, what do peeps expect DC's to do? Leave other Lion receivers wide freakin' open in the red zone?

Well, to be honest I would expect teams to treat him almost the same as they did Moss in his prime. That isn't happening. I'd force Det to have someone else beat me.

 

[Instinctive]

In the endzone, I don't think ti matters. Is two guys getting outjumped by a foot really better than one guy getting outjumped by a foot? All Stafford has to do si throw it high enough for Calvin alone to get it - and that seems to be working so far.

 

[MSULions]

Jim Schwartz: "I'm glad the third best wide reciever on the Cowboys is on our team"

THAT is why you don't say stupid #### Rob. #######

eta: it's also why i'm really coming to love coach Schwartz...last week with his "LEARN THE FKING RULES!" on air and this week with the "THAT'S INCOMPLETE MOTHERF#*#ER!" to Dez Bryant have been awesome.

 

[Bojang0301]

Jim Schwartz: "I'm glad the third best wide reciever on the Cowboys is on our team"

THAT is why you don't say stupid #### Rob. #######

eta: it's also why i'm really coming to love coach Schwartz...last week with his "LEARN THE FKING RULES!" on air and this week with the "THAT'S INCOMPLETE MOTHERF#*#ER!" to Dez Bryant have been awesome.

Can you post the learn the fing rules quote I missed that.

 

[gocuse3]

Jim Schwartz: "I'm glad the third best wide reciever on the Cowboys is on our team"

THAT is why you don't say stupid #### Rob. #######

eta: it's also why i'm really coming to love coach Schwartz...last week with his "LEARN THE FKING RULES!" on air and this week with the "THAT'S INCOMPLETE MOTHERF#*#ER!" to Dez Bryant have been awesome.

Can you post the learn the fing rules quote I missed that.

it was ref confusion after the fg in OT to win

 

[FantasyTrader]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

he's not getting doubled as much because they finally got a few other weapons. when you also have to deal with titus young, burleson, and pettigrew/scheffler it's a pick your poison situation.

Yeah, what do peeps expect DC's to do? Leave other Lion receivers wide freakin' open in the red zone?

Well, to be honest I would expect teams to treat him almost the same as they did Moss in his prime. That isn't happening. I'd force Det to have someone else beat me.

Teams are treating Calvin the same as Moss in his prime. On the first TD catch today, he had two defenders draped on him. It didn't matter. Stafford still threw it up and he still caught it. It's not for lack defenses trying to make Stafford go elsewhere.

 

[jurb26]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record. Contrary to what many people seem to think, Megatron is getting a ton of single coverage still. I can't understand why but it's true. As long as Stafford sees him singled up he will continue to feed him the ball. He's got 8 TDs now. That is still a long way off of 23.

he's not getting doubled as much because they finally got a few other weapons. when you also have to deal with titus young, burleson, and pettigrew/scheffler it's a pick your poison situation.

Yeah, what do peeps expect DC's to do? Leave other Lion receivers wide freakin' open in the red zone?

Well, to be honest I would expect teams to treat him almost the same as they did Moss in his prime. That isn't happening. I'd force Det to have someone else beat me.

No, they aren't. It's not even close. That was basically a broken play vs. zone coverage. They didn't double Calvin at the start of it. Dal left him 1 on 1 a TON in that game. Teams are treating Calvin the same as Moss in his prime. On the first TD catch today, he had two defenders draped on him. It didn't matter. Stafford still threw it up and he still caught it. It's not for lack defenses trying to make Stafford go elsewhere.

 

[swirvenirvin]

Jim Schwartz: "I'm glad the third best wide reciever on the Cowboys is on our team"

THAT is why you don't say stupid #### Rob. #######

eta: it's also why i'm really coming to love coach Schwartz...last week with his "LEARN THE FKING RULES!" on air and this week with the "THAT'S INCOMPLETE MOTHERF#*#ER!" to Dez Bryant have been awesome.

Don't forget about BAAAM Mother FOOCKER after the FG last week

 

[SacramentoBob]

Jim Schwartz: "I'm glad the third best wide reciever on the Cowboys is on our team"

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Stafford to Megatron=FF gold!!!If they both stay healthy, then the answer to the original question is YES

Agreed.

I don't know. He still has to average more than one per game. Still a ton.Defenses are beginning to catch up with all these offenses now. I think these high scoring affairs are about to go south for the fall and winter...

 

[MSULions]

The Transformer's Megatron has declared he would like to now be called Calvin Johnson.

 

[MSULions]

Jim Schwartz: "I'm glad the third best wide reciever on the Cowboys is on our team"

THAT is why you don't say stupid #### Rob. #######

eta: it's also why i'm really coming to love coach Schwartz...last week with his "LEARN THE FKING RULES!" on air and this week with the "THAT'S INCOMPLETE MOTHERF#*#ER!" to Dez Bryant have been awesome.

Can you post the learn the fing rules quote I missed that.

i can't find the link, but it was audible at the end of the Minnesota game when the refs seemed confused because Detroit won the coin toss then went down and kicked the winning FG - which in the PLAYOFFS now would result in the other team to get one shot on offense to tie or win....but things remain the same in the regular season. Apparently they had to talk that out - which is rather frightening.wait...here ya go (at about 18 seconds...you can hear Stockton giggle right after too )

 

[matuski]

There is no way Stafford doesn't try to get Calvin three TD's this week. You don't dish Calvin.

Missed him wide open for a long TD in the opening/second drive of the game... woulda shoulda coulda.

 

[spider321]

Superman wears Calvin Johnson pajamas.

 

[jurb26]

Superman wears Calvin Johnson pajamas.

Yeah, but does Chuck Norris?

 

[Grahamburn]

 

[mcintyre1]

Dynasty 1.01 overall pick? I'd have laughed at that before the season, but with the absolute dominance Calvin has shown, and the apparent sea-change to a passing league this season, I wouldn't be laughing now.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record.

He was triple-teamed on his first TD yesterday. Stafford just tossed it up and said "Fight over it, guys. I know Calvin will win."

 

[Rick James]

There is no way Stafford doesn't try to get Calvin three TD's this week. You don't dish Calvin.

Missed him wide open for a long TD in the opening/second drive of the game... woulda shoulda coulda.

Missed him wide open for a long TD in the 4th quarter, too.

 

[SacramentoBob]

There is no way Stafford doesn't try to get Calvin three TD's this week. You don't dish Calvin.

Missed him wide open for a long TD in the opening/second drive of the game... woulda shoulda coulda.

Missed him wide open for a long TD in the 4th quarter, too.

He could have about 20 TDs already.

 

[jon_mx]

Unless teams really start committing to doubling Megatron, he will break that record.

He was triple-teamed on his first TD yesterday. Stafford just tossed it up and said "Fight over it, guys. I know Calvin will win."

I did not see any part of that which could be construde as a fight. I would have had as good of a chance at winning a jump ball against Shaq.

 

[Grahamburn]

http://twitter.com/#!/Staff_9/status/118797234572754944

@Staff_9 Does anyone think 8 tds in 4 weeks will change chris carters mind about an "elite" receiver? #megatron

I didn't notice this last week. Good stuff. Stafford calling his shot there. Love the little he fired after the 2nd TD too.

 

[LittlePhatty]

http://twitter.com/#!/Staff_9/status/118797234572754944

@Staff_9 Does anyone think 8 tds in 4 weeks will change chris carters mind about an "elite" receiver? #megatron

Quote: "Johnson tied Cris Carter's NFL record of catching two TDs in four straight games."link

Quote from Cris today: "But right now? Calvin Johnson? There's a king in every crowd, and he's the king of the National Football League right now as far as wide receivers."

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