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Calvin Johnson (1 Viewer)

Only one touchdown for Calvin in his career @ the Chicago Bears. Two if we count the hose job from last season.

He needs a multi TD game here pretty soon to get back on track to take this record down. Lions coming off their bye with the Bears on a short week. I like his chances for 2 TDs this week if it isn't too windy in Chicago.

 
Will his value go down rest of the season? Well some dude traded him for Nicks. Yes it's shady, let's see if this collusion gets vetoed by Yahoo.

 
No way he gets the TD record now. That ship has sailed, IMO. Still, if he can get to the 16 TDs I projected/hoped for prior to drafting him, I'll be ecstatic. Would also love to see a monster yardage game from him soon

 
'cubbie5150 said:
No way he gets the TD record now. That ship has sailed, IMO. Still, if he can get to the 16 TDs I projected/hoped for prior to drafting him, I'll be ecstatic. Would also love to see a monster yardage game from him soon
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I would put the floor at 18. Now way do they hold him to 5 TD's the rest of the season.
 
'jon_mx said:
'cubbie5150 said:
No way he gets the TD record now. That ship has sailed, IMO. Still, if he can get to the 16 TDs I projected/hoped for prior to drafting him, I'll be ecstatic. Would also love to see a monster yardage game from him soon
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I would put the floor at 18. Now way do they hold him to 5 TD's the rest of the season.
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Maybe....I'd feel that way too except for the fact the Lions have inexplicably chosen to NOT throw Calvin the jump ball in the RZ the past few games. Makes no sense to me, but he's no longer getting those looks.
 
'cubbie5150 said:
'jon_mx said:
'cubbie5150 said:
No way he gets the TD record now. That ship has sailed, IMO. Still, if he can get to the 16 TDs I projected/hoped for prior to drafting him, I'll be ecstatic. Would also love to see a monster yardage game from him soon
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I would put the floor at 18. Now way do they hold him to 5 TD's the rest of the season.
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Maybe....I'd feel that way too except for the fact the Lions have inexplicably chosen to NOT throw Calvin the jump ball in the RZ the past few games. Makes no sense to me, but he's no longer getting those looks.
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It's the classic case of outsmarting themselves. Instead of going with a proven scoring method, they try and get tricky and then kick a FG.
 
There is zero chance he scores a TD this week. Chicago will not make the same mistake again. Historically, I dont think Calvin has fared well at Soldier...TD wise.

 
'Dought Man said:
There is zero chance he scores a TD this week. Chicago will not make the same mistake again. Historically, I dont think Calvin has fared well at Soldier...TD wise.
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You come off as pretty foolish stating there's a 0% chance for someone who has 11 TDs in 8 games to score a TD on any given week he suits up for.
 
'Dought Man said:
There is zero chance he scores a TD this week. Chicago will not make the same mistake again. Historically, I dont think Calvin has fared well at Soldier...TD wise.
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Very small sample size - 3 games:2010 - 4/452009 - 8/133/02008 - 8/94/1I still give a 50/50 shot at a TD and probably will do closer to the 08 and 09 games.
 
'RhymesMcJuice said:
'Dought Man said:
There is zero chance he scores a TD this week. Chicago will not make the same mistake again. Historically, I dont think Calvin has fared well at Soldier...TD wise.
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Very small sample size - 3 games:2010 - 4/452009 - 8/133/02008 - 8/94/1I still give a 50/50 shot at a TD and probably will do closer to the 08 and 09 games.
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I give anybody averaging 90 yards a game more than a 50% chance, and if that person is named Calvin, it goes up closer to 75-85% with gusts up to 3 TD.
 
'jon_mx said:
Stafford will see to it that Calvin shatters the record. During the week 2 game, Stafford was asking Calvin how would 32 feel. Stafford has 100% confidence in Calvin, just watch the 4th down play. Assuming everyone stays health, the floor is 20.
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After 4 TD's in the last 8 games, he'd need 8 more in the final 4 games to reach his 'floor'.Both Stafford and CJ have played in every game so far this season, if I'm not mistaken.
 
I don't think he'll even get to the 16 TDs I projected for him pre-draft. Unless he changes position to RB so Stafford would then have the balls to throw him a dozen dump-off passes. It's amazing to me how consistently unwilling the Lions/Stafford are to get their best weapon involved in the 1st quarter. Oh well, at least his floor is something like 3/50; his stinkers aren't as bad as they are for pretty much every other WR... The problem is he's strung together a bunch of games like that.

 
Did you guys see the Saints put 2 guys on him on practically a goaline formation with him lined up out wide. I have never seen that before and they basically gave up a free touchdown to the Lions because they had no one in the middle. It was as if Greg Williams was going up against Megatron this past week in his fantasy football league. Bracket coverages etc. This sucks :(

 
'teampunjabi said:
Did you guys see the Saints put 2 guys on him on practically a goaline formation with him lined up out wide. I have never seen that before and they basically gave up a free touchdown to the Lions because they had no one in the middle. It was as if Greg Williams was going up against Megatron this past week in his fantasy football league. Bracket coverages etc. This sucks :(
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Yes. :kicksrock:Hence the 400 yard game Stafford had. Similar situation against Carolina. Stafford torches them for 5 TDs, but none to Calvin. Stafford will have to continue to exploit the single coverage or we'll probably continue to see Johnson kept out of the end zone.The matchups ease up for the playoffs though, so I doubt he stays out of the end zone too much longer.I'll put the over/under at 16 scores for the season total.
 
'teampunjabi said:
Did you guys see the Saints put 2 guys on him on practically a goaline formation with him lined up out wide. I have never seen that before and they basically gave up a free touchdown to the Lions because they had no one in the middle. It was as if Greg Williams was going up against Megatron this past week in his fantasy football league. Bracket coverages etc. This sucks :(
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The problem for us Calvin owqners is that these teams are beating the Lions so they will continue to stop Calvin and if Stafford doesn't grow some nuts, they will keep losing.
 
'PahtyTom said:
I don't think it is far fetched that CJ scores 3 times Sunday
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Sadly the trend seems to suggest that there is just a good a chance that he scores zero and Scheffler, Young, and Morris score the TDs. Calvin is helping his team by drawing coverage right now...not making plays. It sucks but that seems to be the situation.From a fantasy perspective if you're lucky enough to own him and have made it to the playoffs you should be tickled pink because I would rather he be down in the middle of the season than when I need him in the playoffs. Of course if you didn't make the playoffs then this provides no comfort. From a real football perspective the Lions are playing like crap and it seems like their best interest to stop making Calvin a decoy and to start forcing him the ball and letting him make plays.
 
'faulkfan said:
'PahtyTom said:
I don't think it is far fetched that CJ scores 3 times Sunday
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Sadly the trend seems to suggest that there is just a good a chance that he scores zero and Scheffler, Young, and Morris score the TDs. Calvin is helping his team by drawing coverage right now...not making plays. It sucks but that seems to be the situation.From a fantasy perspective if you're lucky enough to own him and have made it to the playoffs you should be tickled pink because I would rather he be down in the middle of the season than when I need him in the playoffs. Of course if you didn't make the playoffs then this provides no comfort. From a real football perspective the Lions are playing like crap and it seems like their best interest to stop making Calvin a decoy and to start forcing him the ball and letting him make plays.
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:goodposting: At some point (I'm not sure when), Stafford became gun-shy and forgot the cardinal rules:1) Calvin is never covered.2) If Calvin is covered, see Rule #1. I think that back in week 10 when they just got destroyed by the Bears and Stafford went crazy, targeting Calvin 20 times in that game is where all of this started. CJ ended up with 7-81-0 and took a couple of huge shots from the Bears secondary. I believe that was the first game for Stafford with the broken finger and he sprayed the football all over the field. Stafford hasn't been the same since and truth be told, neither have Schwartz and the Lions' staff. They've gone into a shell, calling a much less aggressive game. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall only ONE deep shot to Calvin the entire game last week against the Saints. The Lions can deny it all they want - but from an outsider looking in, I think there's some serious trust issues between Schwartz and his players right now. In hindsight, Stafford should have sat with this broken finger. I think it was a selfish move on his part to not acquiesce to Shaun Hill until the finger healed. Maybe the rest of the team feels Stafford acted selfishly as well and it's the pink elephant in the locker room. All I know is SOMETHING is up with the Lions right now that has nothing to do with football. Thank God for the Vikings. It's amazing how many problems winning solves and there's no team that needs one worse than the Lions. Hopefully Stafford's finger is just about right, they all get fat on Sunday against the Vikings and go from there. Too bad, because I think Calvin would have threatened the record otherwise.
 
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You guys saw how the Saints covered Calvin, right? The Panthers helped Gamble with a safety as well, and Stafford threw 5 TDs. Stafford looked fine in the game against New Orleans and threw for 400 yards. If teams continue to leave other players in single coverage it makes sense for Stafford to go elsewhere with the football.

Inside the 20, I'd force the ball to Calvin because this is where they've been struggling, but other than that it's just bad football to throw at a double team when other talented players face single coverage.

That being said, he still needs to be targeted 10+ times a game and I agree he should see more deep shots down the field.

 
'Grahamburn said:
You guys saw how the Saints covered Calvin, right? The Panthers helped Gamble with a safety as well, and Stafford threw 5 TDs. Stafford looked fine in the game against New Orleans and threw for 400 yards. If teams continue to leave other players in single coverage it makes sense for Stafford to go elsewhere with the football. Inside the 20, I'd force the ball to Calvin because this is where they've been struggling, but other than that it's just bad football to throw at a double team when other talented players face single coverage.That being said, he still needs to be targeted 10+ times a game and I agree he should see more deep shots down the field.
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I don't understand why they don't motion Calvin at all in these games. They just let him run into double coverage all day without changing anything up.
 
'Squintz82 said:
'Grahamburn said:
You guys saw how the Saints covered Calvin, right? The Panthers helped Gamble with a safety as well, and Stafford threw 5 TDs. Stafford looked fine in the game against New Orleans and threw for 400 yards. If teams continue to leave other players in single coverage it makes sense for Stafford to go elsewhere with the football. Inside the 20, I'd force the ball to Calvin because this is where they've been struggling, but other than that it's just bad football to throw at a double team when other talented players face single coverage.That being said, he still needs to be targeted 10+ times a game and I agree he should see more deep shots down the field.
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I don't understand why they don't motion Calvin at all in these games. They just let him run into double coverage all day without changing anything up.
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Why get the ball to your All-World WR when you can throw 5 yard dump passes to either a guy they signed off the street (Smith) or a 30+ yr old career back-up RB (Morris) all game?
 
'FantasyTrader said:
'faulkfan said:
'PahtyTom said:
I don't think it is far fetched that CJ scores 3 times Sunday
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Sadly the trend seems to suggest that there is just a good a chance that he scores zero and Scheffler, Young, and Morris score the TDs. Calvin is helping his team by drawing coverage right now...not making plays. It sucks but that seems to be the situation.From a fantasy perspective if you're lucky enough to own him and have made it to the playoffs you should be tickled pink because I would rather he be down in the middle of the season than when I need him in the playoffs. Of course if you didn't make the playoffs then this provides no comfort. From a real football perspective the Lions are playing like crap and it seems like their best interest to stop making Calvin a decoy and to start forcing him the ball and letting him make plays.
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:goodposting: At some point (I'm not sure when), Stafford became gun-shy and forgot the cardinal rules:1) Calvin is never covered.2) If Calvin is covered, see Rule #1. I think that back in week 10 when they just got destroyed by the Bears and Stafford went crazy, targeting Calvin 20 times in that game is where all of this started. CJ ended up with 7-81-0 and took a couple of huge shots from the Bears secondary. I believe that was the first game for Stafford with the broken finger and he sprayed the football all over the field. Stafford hasn't been the same since and truth be told, neither have Schwartz and the Lions' staff. They've gone into a shell, calling a much less aggressive game. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall only ONE deep shot to Calvin the entire game last week against the Saints. The Lions can deny it all they want - but from an outsider looking in, I think there's some serious trust issues between Schwartz and his players right now. In hindsight, Stafford should have sat with this broken finger. I think it was a selfish move on his part to not acquiesce to Shaun Hill until the finger healed. Maybe the rest of the team feels Stafford acted selfishly as well and it's the pink elephant in the locker room. All I know is SOMETHING is up with the Lions right now that has nothing to do with football. Thank God for the Vikings. It's amazing how many problems winning solves and there's no team that needs one worse than the Lions. Hopefully Stafford's finger is just about right, they all get fat on Sunday against the Vikings and go from there. Too bad, because I think Calvin would have threatened the record otherwise.
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You pretty much summed up what I had to say about this subject. Stafford's been playing hurt, don't know if Schwartz is on the same page but I'm sure they at least have a clue about it. Bright side of all this: his hand will heal, it may already have healed, I have high hopes for that and Calvin in the coming weeks (hopefully this week too)
 
'teampunjabi said:
Did you guys see the Saints put 2 guys on him on practically a goaline formation with him lined up out wide. I have never seen that before and they basically gave up a free touchdown to the Lions because they had no one in the middle. It was as if Greg Williams was going up against Megatron this past week in his fantasy football league. Bracket coverages etc. This sucks :(
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I wonder though why they dont just start Calvin on one side of the field and motion him to the other side before the play is snapped. I bet this would free him up and cause some confusion on the other teams safety and corners. It seems that the Lions will have a dump off to the RB or a WR open in the flat under whereever CJ is every time. Also I would like to see them do a little more hurry up offense and do not let the defense adjust too much.
 
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'cubbie5150 said:
'Squintz82 said:
'Grahamburn said:
You guys saw how the Saints covered Calvin, right? The Panthers helped Gamble with a safety as well, and Stafford threw 5 TDs. Stafford looked fine in the game against New Orleans and threw for 400 yards. If teams continue to leave other players in single coverage it makes sense for Stafford to go elsewhere with the football. Inside the 20, I'd force the ball to Calvin because this is where they've been struggling, but other than that it's just bad football to throw at a double team when other talented players face single coverage.That being said, he still needs to be targeted 10+ times a game and I agree he should see more deep shots down the field.
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I don't understand why they don't motion Calvin at all in these games. They just let him run into double coverage all day without changing anything up.
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Why get the ball to your All-World WR when you can throw 5 yard dump passes to either a guy they signed off the street (Smith) or a 30+ yr old career back-up RB (Morris) all game?
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Looks like we all see the same thing. Gotta wonder why they keep going with their losing gameplans. We will know they have completely lost their minds when they try an end around with the 6-5 WR.
 
Stafford has stopped going deep to Calvin. Haven't seen those early season jump balls into double coverage since he started throwing those interceptions. Not a good time for Calvin to not be getting the ball.

 
I won't be a surprise if Calvin doesn't see another 100 yard game or any more TDs this season. He is simply not a part of the game plan outside of serving as a way to pull coverage away from the other players.

 
coverage, shmoverage. what did he have like 5 targets today? people should be fired over that. Stafford is gun-shy

 
'joffer said:
coverage, shmoverage. what did he have like 5 targets today? people should be fired over that. Stafford is gun-shy
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Today was not Stafford's fault one bit. He was 20 of 29 with 227 yds, 2 Tds and no Ints. He spread the ball to 7 different receivers and they won the game.Now, last week Stafford should have gone to Calvin more. No doubt about it.
 
We screwed up and forgot there were 17 weeks with byes, so our season ends today. I had Calvin and Graham, and they go for 3 and 5. I will lose unless murray outscores Eli and Robinson by 11. Never thought he would get 3 points against Minnesota. I have had him every year he has been in the league. terrible time to completely disappear.

 
'goldenchild said:
Please change the subtitle of this thread to "Will he score another TD this season?"TIA
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His best chance to score would be if they switched him to defense & he returned a pick-6. I honestly can't believe I am strongly considering benching Calvin next week...
 
'FavreCo said:
Looks like we all see the same thing. Gotta wonder why they keep going with their losing gameplans. We will know they have completely lost their minds when they try an end around with the 6-5 WR.
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:prophetic: :shock: The Lions did in fact stupidly use Calvin in this manner, again, and he got lit up as a result. It amazes me that they continue to run these types of plays, exposing their best offensive weapon to unnecessary punishment. Inexcusable IMO...
 
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