Cam Cameron Needs a Lesson in Communication (1 Viewer)

[az_prof]

This guy just doesn't know how to communicate very well, or else he is intentionally obtuse. He finally settles the starting RB question, and as anyone serious knew it is Brown. He goes on to compliment Brown and say that "he earned it." He tells us, as he has several times, that "Brown is an ascending player." I would like to know what that means in this context. Then he goes on to say that Chatman "could be in the starting lineup too..." This guy is either a genius or an idiot and I don't know which yet.

http://www.miamidolphins.com/newsite/news/...?contentID=5356

Starters Set To Face 'Skins On Sunday; Other Team Notes, Injury Updates

September 5, 2007

By Andy Kent

Special for MiamiDolphins.com

There are no more competitions for starting jobs among Dolphins players, at least not until after the season opener Sunday at the Washington Redskins.

Head Coach Cam Cameron designated Ronnie Brown as his starting running back and L.J. Shelton as his starting right tackle today, and also confirmed that outside linebacker Joey Porter's surgically repaired right knee is strong enough to warrant a start. However, Cameron also cautioned that the offensive set will dictate where Brown will start.

"Personnel wise, Jesse Chatman could be in the starting lineup, too. There could be two running backs in there, but (Ronnie) will be our starting tailback," Cameron said. "I think he earned the job and like I said, I think we need two. But I think he's done a nice job and I think like I said he's an ascending player. I'm looking forward to watching him play on Sunday."

One position that Cameron was a little more vague about was kick returner, where Brown has been listed first on the depth chart since the second preseason game at Kansas City. He did confirm that rookie first-round draft pick Ted Ginn, Jr. will be the punt returner, but on kicks he said there will be a combination of Brown, Chatman, Ginn and others. He also said having Brown back there was not an experiment and that he's good at returning kicks.

Throughout training camp and the preseason, Cameron has preached that this offense will be a two-back system, even though LaDainian Tomlinson was clearly the featured back in San Diego. As for who will get the majority of the carries, Brown or Chatman, he said it will vary week-to-week, and Brown is prepared to handle whatever load Cameron asks of him.

"Since I've been here I haven't really had the opportunity to carry the ball 20 to 25 times too many times, but the times that I did I felt pretty good and I had a pretty good showing," said Brown, who was the No. 2 overall pick of the 2005 NFL Draft and shared the backfield with Ricky Williams as a rookie. "I look forward to it and to being used in a lot of different ways and just being able to touch the ball in different ways, whether it be catching or just running the football."

When Brown was paired with Williams, he rushed for 907 yards on 207 carries with four rushing touchdowns and caught 32 passes for 232 yards and another score. Williams gained another 743 yards on 168 carries with six touchdowns, so that year Miami's two-headed running back system produced a total of 1,650 yards on the ground, almost 200 more than Tomlinson had that year (1,462).

 

[ChuckLiddell]

This guy just doesn't know how to communicate very well, or else he is intentionally obtuse. He finally settles the starting RB question, and as anyone serious knew it is Brown. He goes on to compliment Brown and say that "he earned it." He tells us, as he has several times, that "Brown is an ascending player." I would like to know what that means in this context. Then he goes on to say that Chatman "could be in the starting lineup too..." This guy is either a genius or an idiot and I don't know which yet.

http://www.miamidolphins.com/newsite/news/...?contentID=5356

Starters Set To Face 'Skins On Sunday; Other Team Notes, Injury Updates

September 5, 2007

By Andy Kent

Special for MiamiDolphins.com

There are no more competitions for starting jobs among Dolphins players, at least not until after the season opener Sunday at the Washington Redskins.

Head Coach Cam Cameron designated Ronnie Brown as his starting running back and L.J. Shelton as his starting right tackle today, and also confirmed that outside linebacker Joey Porter's surgically repaired right knee is strong enough to warrant a start. However, Cameron also cautioned that the offensive set will dictate where Brown will start.

"Personnel wise, Jesse Chatman could be in the starting lineup, too. There could be two running backs in there, but (Ronnie) will be our starting tailback," Cameron said. "I think he earned the job and like I said, I think we need two. But I think he's done a nice job and I think like I said he's an ascending player. I'm looking forward to watching him play on Sunday."

One position that Cameron was a little more vague about was kick returner, where Brown has been listed first on the depth chart since the second preseason game at Kansas City. He did confirm that rookie first-round draft pick Ted Ginn, Jr. will be the punt returner, but on kicks he said there will be a combination of Brown, Chatman, Ginn and others. He also said having Brown back there was not an experiment and that he's good at returning kicks.

Throughout training camp and the preseason, Cameron has preached that this offense will be a two-back system, even though LaDainian Tomlinson was clearly the featured back in San Diego. As for who will get the majority of the carries, Brown or Chatman, he said it will vary week-to-week, and Brown is prepared to handle whatever load Cameron asks of him.

"Since I've been here I haven't really had the opportunity to carry the ball 20 to 25 times too many times, but the times that I did I felt pretty good and I had a pretty good showing," said Brown, who was the No. 2 overall pick of the 2005 NFL Draft and shared the backfield with Ricky Williams as a rookie. "I look forward to it and to being used in a lot of different ways and just being able to touch the ball in different ways, whether it be catching or just running the football."

When Brown was paired with Williams, he rushed for 907 yards on 207 carries with four rushing touchdowns and caught 32 passes for 232 yards and another score. Williams gained another 743 yards on 168 carries with six touchdowns, so that year Miami's two-headed running back system produced a total of 1,650 yards on the ground, almost 200 more than Tomlinson had that year (1,462).

Asked and answered.

 

[avoiding injuries]

As for who will get the majority of the carries, Brown or Chatman, he said it will vary week-to-week, and Brown is prepared to handle whatever load Cameron asks of him.

"Since I've been here I haven't really had the opportunity to carry the ball 20 to 25 times too many times, but the times that I did I felt pretty good and I had a pretty good showing," said Brown..."I look forward to it and to being used in a lot of different ways and just being able to touch the ball in different ways, whether it be catching or just running the football."

 

[fflnut]

I still say sell high on Chatman. Not that I don't believe Cam or think Brown is awesome and is going to produce to his draft spot. I just can't imagine Chatman panning out to really be all that valuable.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I still say sell high on Chatman. Not that I don't believe Cam or think Brown is awesome and is going to produce to his draft spot. I just can't imagine Chatman panning out to really be all that valuable.

 

[SteelerMurf]

I just think everyone is splicing every single word and trying to be a psychologist and guess meanings.

He already said he will run a lot of 2 tailback formations. So if they open up in that 2 back formation, technically Chatman started too. But he really isn't a starter.

Let's put this in TE terms. Dallas Clark is technically the starting TE for Indy but if they start the game in a 2 TE formation with Utech and Clark on the field at the same time, Utech started but he really isn't the starter.

The article sounds like the offense will be quite inventive. I still think RB is going to be great in PPR leagues.



"Since I've been here I haven't really had the opportunity to carry the ball 20 to 25 times too many times, but the times that I did I felt pretty good and I had a pretty good showing," said Brown..."I look forward to it and to being used in a lot of different ways and just being able to touch the ball in different ways, whether it be catching or just running the football."

 

[FantasyTrader]

After listening to Cam for several months now, I think he's very intelligent. He has that same seemingly stupid, vague "coachspeak" kind of way about him (Shanahan/Belichick). Nothing that comes out of his mouth is the truth. It's just what he wants people to hear at that moment. I think if you had a key to Cameron's secret thoughts it was never, for even a single moment, Chatman.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I still say sell high on Chatman. Not that I don't believe Cam or think Brown is awesome and is going to produce to his draft spot. I just can't imagine Chatman panning out to really be all that valuable.

Sell high? Chatman is being drafted as RB50 or later. Selling him for a ham sandwich would be robbery.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

After listening to Cam for several months now, I think he's very intelligent. He has that same seemingly stupid, vague "coachspeak" kind of way about him (Shanahan/Belichick). Nothing that comes out of his mouth is the truth. It's just what he wants people to hear at that moment. I think if you had a key to Cameron's secret thoughts it was never, for even a single moment, Chatman.

Not into all the smiley guys, so I will just say it - Good Post!

 

[fflnut]

I still say sell high on Chatman. Not that I don't believe Cam or think Brown is awesome and is going to produce to his draft spot. I just can't imagine Chatman panning out to really be all that valuable.

Sell high? Chatman is being drafted as RB50 or later. Selling him for a ham sandwich would be robbery.

Even with the past few day's worth of news floating about? Previously, yes, but he has a heck of a lot more value than he did 2-3 weeks ago. I'm not saying trade him for Peyton, but if you can get yourself something of value for him, do it.Edit: And to be clear a heck of a lot more value than he did previously means, he was worth nothing before, now he's worth something. Not much, but desperate Brown owners or RB weak teams might have strength elsewhere that you can play on and trade for.

 

[nygiants56]

After listening to Cam for several months now, I think he's very intelligent. He has that same seemingly stupid, vague "coachspeak" kind of way about him (Shanahan/Belichick). Nothing that comes out of his mouth is the truth. It's just what he wants people to hear at that moment. I think if you had a key to Cameron's secret thoughts it was never, for even a single moment, Chatman.

crazy like a fox..this Dolphins team is going to be a lot better than people project them to be..

 

[gregjcross]

I am biased towards Ronnie Brown and havent believed J. Chatman is anything more than a training camp wonder. Chatman did some good things the last five weeks against the odds, and pleased his old mentor from San Diego, Cam, who make it very clear when he had the media's attention with a big "Atta boy Jessie!" All the while downplaying the importance of a high paid/high draft player. Team chemistry on his behalf. But what is Cam all about? Obviously his Midwestern roots, a "Beat 'em down and Raise 'em up" approach that you would apply to adolescents, or at worst, college players. Then i notice that Cam's old friend, Bobby Knight, from the Indiana days, is attending Dolphins presesason game and that Cam considers him a huge influence on his life. Well, I'm sure a lot of good people and former players down in Indiana love Bobby despite his ego, especially when they are on his good side. If Brown complies, he could just as well be Cam's boy too, but not utnil they've been through some time together. The only thing that matters here is the O-line, if improved, both players will produce.

After listening to Cam for several months now, I think he's very intelligent. He has that same seemingly stupid, vague "coachspeak" kind of way about him (Shanahan/Belichick). Nothing that comes out of his mouth is the truth. It's just what he wants people to hear at that moment. I think if you had a key to Cameron's secret thoughts it was never, for even a single moment, Chatman.

crazy like a fox..this Dolphins team is going to be a lot better than people project them to be..

 

[Ayok]

Split / Pro Set backfield = they both start.

Pretty simple to me.

 

[az_prof]

I am biased towards Ronnie Brown and havent believed J. Chatman is anything more than a training camp wonder. Chatman did some good things the last five weeks against the odds, and pleased his old mentor from San Diego, Cam, who make it very clear when he had the media's attention with a big "Atta boy Jessie!" All the while downplaying the importance of a high paid/high draft player. Team chemistry on his behalf. But what is Cam all about? Obviously his Midwestern roots, a "Beat 'em down and Raise 'em up" approach that you would apply to adolescents, or at worst, college players. Then i notice that Cam's old friend, Bobby Knight, from the Indiana days, is attending Dolphins presesason game and that Cam considers him a huge influence on his life. Well, I'm sure a lot of good people and former players down in Indiana love Bobby despite his ego, especially when they are on his good side. If Brown complies, he could just as well be Cam's boy too, but not utnil they've been through some time together. The only thing that matters here is the O-line, if improved, both players will produce.

After listening to Cam for several months now, I think he's very intelligent. He has that same seemingly stupid, vague "coachspeak" kind of way about him (Shanahan/Belichick). Nothing that comes out of his mouth is the truth. It's just what he wants people to hear at that moment. I think if you had a key to Cameron's secret thoughts it was never, for even a single moment, Chatman.

crazy like a fox..this Dolphins team is going to be a lot better than people project them to be..

This makes a lot more sense to me than anything Cam has said so far. Maybe you can be his interpreter? So what does he mean when he calls Brown an "ascending" player? Does anyone speak this way?

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I still say sell high on Chatman. Not that I don't believe Cam or think Brown is awesome and is going to produce to his draft spot. I just can't imagine Chatman panning out to really be all that valuable.

Sell high? Chatman is being drafted as RB50 or later. Selling him for a ham sandwich would be robbery.

Even with the past few day's worth of news floating about?

Yes. In Antsports drafts since August 30, he is averaging RB55 (14.12). Just after Kenton Keith, Correll Buckhalter and Maurice Hicks.