Any current players a lock for HoF (except Mahomes and ARod)? (1 Viewer)

[Anarchy99]

One of only five to throw for 5,000 yards in a season

9 guys have done it.

 

[Desert_Power]

Active HOFs:

PFR's HOF Monitor is a flawed metric but can be used as a starting point proxy for examining a player's HOF case. Here are the players @IHEARTFF listed, in order of their current HOF Monitor score:

1. Aaron Rodgers 197.26 - LOCK
2. Travis Kelce 130.56 - LOCK
3. Bobby Wagner 112.88 - LOCK
4. Patrick Mahomes 102.00 - LOCK
5. Khalil Mack 101.5 - probably a LOCK now and not done
6. Von Miller 100.48 - probably a LOCK now and not done
7. Tyreek Hill 93.01 - probably a LOCK now and not done
8. Cam Jordan 82.53
9. Calais Campbell 82.43
10. Lamar Jackson 81.40 - :LOCK
11. TJ Watt 77.55
12. Tyron Smith 77.53
13. Myles Garrett 74.20
14. Mike Evans 73.41
15. Trent Williams 72.03
16. Cam Heyward 71.93
17. Chris Jones 66.55
18. Lane Johnson 61.25
19. Derrick Henry 54.37 - despite having a lower score than everyone else in the list, probably has a better chance than some others

The metric is supposed to be designed so that the average HOF score is ~100. Of course, that means there are HOFers below as well as above that threshold.

For the most part, I don't think the players below Hill except Jackson are locks yet... at least not if they never played another down. None of these players are done (assuming Campbell isn't), so many will still elevate their standing and that might be enough.

Feel like Hill isn't really a lock and could off the field himself out of consideration. Mike Evans feels like a lock to me because he has such great longevity stats that the Hall loves along with some peaks/a title.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Lamar Jackson is not a HOF football player.

• 11 NFL players have won 2 or more MVPs. All of them are in the HOF or will be when eligible. Jackson is no exception.
• He has started at least 15 games in 4 NFL seasons, and he was AP1 in 3 of them.
• He is #3 all time in passer rating and within the top 10 all time in YPA, TD %, and interception %.
• He has the most rushing yards by a QB of all time and a lot of other QB rushing records.
• His career regular season winning percentage (0.745) is the 8th highest of any QB in history.

I'm not a Ravens fan or particular fan of Jackson, but it's obvious to me he would make the HOF even if he never played another down. Fortunately for him, he is presumably going to play a lot more football and have the chance to eliminate all doubters.

You are correct, he will get in.

I just don’t think he is HOF worthy. Until his playoff success changes, he gets the same treatment as Prescott/Romo/Cousins/etc.

 

[Anarchy99]

You are correct, he will get in.

I just don’t think he is HOF worthy. Until his playoff success changes, he gets the same treatment as Prescott/Romo/Cousins/etc.

Did Prescott/Romo/Cousins win 2 MVPs and be named first-team All Pro 3 times? (Those guys combined had 0 MVPs and 0 first-team All Pro selections.)

 

[Payne]

One of only five to throw for 5,000 yards in a season

9 guys have done it.

Oh geez.....my source was way outdated then. Sorry

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

You are correct, he will get in.

I just don’t think he is HOF worthy. Until his playoff success changes, he gets the same treatment as Prescott/Romo/Cousins/etc.

Did Prescott/Romo/Cousins win 2 MVPs and be named first-team All Pro 3 times? (Those guys combined had 0 MVPs and 0 first-team All Pro selections.)

I can’t help that people are enamored by running backs playing the quarterback position. We’re not gonna do this same argument over and over again. You guys think he’s a quarterback, I am adamantly opposed to him being a quarterback.

I’m used to and perfectly content being alone on this island.

 

[Anarchy99]

You are correct, he will get in.

I just don’t think he is HOF worthy. Until his playoff success changes, he gets the same treatment as Prescott/Romo/Cousins/etc.

Did Prescott/Romo/Cousins win 2 MVPs and be named first-team All Pro 3 times? (Those guys combined had 0 MVPs and 0 first-team All Pro selections.)

I can’t help that people are enamored by running backs playing the quarterback position. We’re not gonna do this same argument over and over again. You guys think he’s a quarterback, I am adamantly opposed to him being a quarterback.

I’m used to and perfectly content being alone on this island.

Well, your "RB" ranked 7th (7,850) in passing yards and 3rd in passing TD (65) over the 2023 and 2024 seasons combined. That's more passing yards than Stafford, Burrow, Stroud, Love, and Herbert. And more passing TD than Allen, Mahomes, and everyone not named Baker or Jared. And he did ok as "just" a RB in that time, ranking 18th in the league in rushing yards. Maybe he's a QB that doubles as a RB?

 

[renesauz]

You are correct, he will get in.

I just don’t think he is HOF worthy. Until his playoff success changes, he gets the same treatment as Prescott/Romo/Cousins/etc.

Did Prescott/Romo/Cousins win 2 MVPs and be named first-team All Pro 3 times? (Those guys combined had 0 MVPs and 0 first-team All Pro selections.)

I can’t help that people are enamored by running backs playing the quarterback position. We’re not gonna do this same argument over and over again. You guys think he’s a quarterback, I am adamantly opposed to him being a quarterback.

I’m used to and perfectly content being alone on this island.

Well, your "RB" ranked 7th (7,850) in passing yards and 3rd in passing TD (65) over the 2023 and 2024 seasons combined. That's more passing yards than Stafford, Burrow, Stroud, Love, and Herbert. And more passing TD than Allen, Mahomes, and everyone not named Baker or Jared. And he did ok as "just" a RB in that time, ranking 18th in the league in rushing yards. Maybe he's a QB that doubles as a RB?

Yeah it confuses me how folks still can't give Jackson credit for his vast improvements in the passing game. He's at the worst an above average passer.

 

[rockaction]

I don’t think STEADY is winning this debate in any way, shape, or form. It’s a wipeout. I get if you say that Lamar hasn’t won a big game yet, even though that criticism strikes me as blaming the wrong guy, but the glorified RB bit is stale, old, inaccurate and has to go.

Out with the bath water, you!