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Cam Cameron - worst coach of 2007 so far at least ! (1 Viewer)

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Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?

 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
It's obvious you have little to no clue but here goes anyway.A. His name is spelled Ginn. He has already passed Hagan on the depth chart for #3 WR BEFORE HIS FIRST NFL SNAP He is already returning punts. Quinn has looked like a rising star? It's preseason and he hasn't played against any first or second string defenses yet.

B. Booker will be the third down back this year, not a wasted pick.

C. He is not trying to demoralize Brown, he is trying to motivate him.

 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
It's obvious you have little to no clue but here goes anyway.A. His name is spelled Ginn. He has already passed Hagan on the depth chart for #3 WR BEFORE HIS FIRST NFL SNAP He is already returning punts. Quinn has looked like a rising star? It's preseason and he hasn't played against any first or second string defenses yet.

B. Booker will be the third down back this year, not a wasted pick.

C. He is not trying to demoralize Brown, he is trying to motivate him.
Right on!Not to mention the fact that John Beck has looked every bit as good as Quinn has so far in their very short careers defined by playing in preseason games against guys who will be bagging their groceries in a few weeks. They got Beck in the 2nd round instead of 9th overall.

How can there even be a worst coach of 2007 when 2007 has not even started yet. This thread should be blown up.

 
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Well, Ginn was a bit too high but he is going to be a good break out player. Booker just had a new baby and has been out for a little while, but will be a good receiver and change of pace RB. There is a reason Quinn went 20 something in the draft! Not only did Miami pass him up but a ton of teams after them did as well! Bottom line is that his accuracy is off past 10 yards! I think the hype of Quinn was just too much, what good teams did he actually play against in college? Overrated if you ask me. I agree with the above post in that he hasn't seen any first string defenses yet! Lets wait until the season starts before passing judgement!

 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss ! A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOWB. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league ! What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
:goodposting: Lets at least wait for the first game to be played.
 
Actually, Brady Quinn played against the Broncos first string defense last game and looked good doing it.

Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.

 
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Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss ! A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOWB. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league ! What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
:lmao: Lets at least wait for the first game to be played.
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I do question putting Brown in at KR, putting a high first round draft pick RB at risk in the preseason. Even if he is completely mad and thinks Chatman is a better back for the season he still needs depth at the position. I am unimpressed with him so far but it is still too early to see what his plans will achieve.

 
Actually, Brady Quinn played against the Broncos first string defense last game and looked good doing it.Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
He played 1 series against a first string defense all preseason and he didn't look any better than Frye or Anderson, who played both of their series against the Broncos' #1's.
 
I was just thinking this today.....I just don't see things working out for Cameron in SD. The team has an OLD defense, which isn't always bad, however the offense is not good at all and is a ways away from being good. Most the guys on D will be retired by the time they ever get anything good on offense going. The Phins are a disaster! :blackdot:

 
Actually, Brady Quinn played against the Broncos first string defense last game and looked good doing it.Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
Normally I totally agree with you Andy. However, Cameron does not have Lord Davis of the Sith looking over his shoulder.
 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
It's obvious you have little to no clue but here goes anyway.A. His name is spelled Ginn. He has already passed Hagan on the depth chart for #3 WR BEFORE HIS FIRST NFL SNAP He is already returning punts. Quinn has looked like a rising star? It's preseason and he hasn't played against any first or second string defenses yet.

B. Booker will be the third down back this year, not a wasted pick.

C. He is not trying to demoralize Brown, he is trying to motivate him.
Right on!Not to mention the fact that John Beck has looked every bit as good as Quinn has so far in their very short careers defined by playing in preseason games against guys who will be bagging their groceries in a few weeks. They got Beck in the 2nd round instead of 9th overall.

How can there even be a worst coach of 2007 when 2007 has not even started yet. This thread should be blown up.
cmon! I disagree. I am going to give him a shot during regular season, but all his moves thus far make me scratch my head. He can't be putting R. Brown on kick returns, that is just not a smart move. I am a PSU fan and know how good Ginn is in that role, get him there. If anything put Booker back there. Booker is not a sure fire bet to be third down back. Listen to his press conference from Tues. Cam said he will play the "F" position, he will play some wideout and do some things there to help the club, and then he ends it by saying he may even play some RB. So I don't think that says he is a sure bet to be the third down back. He actually acted like Cobbs would be, for whatever reason. Chatman is not a starting back in the NFL, Ronnie Brown is a three down back, and hopefully he plays that role. I hope Cam does motivate him a bit, but Ronnie still needs to step up, but make no mistake about it, he is the Miami Offense!
 
Actually, Brady Quinn played against the Broncos first string defense last game and looked good doing it.Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
Normally I totally agree with you Andy. However, Cameron does not have Lord Davis of the Sith looking over his shoulder.
Well now that is true.
 
Actually, Brady Quinn played against the Broncos first string defense last game and looked good doing it.Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
He played 1 series against a first string defense all preseason and he didn't look any better than Frye or Anderson, who played both of their series against the Broncos' #1's.
Meh. I'm just playing around a bit.That game had a lot of questions around it. If all the Cleveland QBs looked okay against Denver's #1 defense, does it mean the QB's might actually be decent, or is Denver's defense in for a season of letdowns?
 
I was just thinking this today.....I just don't see things working out for Cameron in SD. The team has an OLD defense, which isn't always bad, however the offense is not good at all and is a ways away from being good. Most the guys on D will be retired by the time they ever get anything good on offense going. The Phins are a disaster! :coffee:
I assume you meant Miami there
 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
It's obvious you have little to no clue but here goes anyway.A. His name is spelled Ginn. He has already passed Hagan on the depth chart for #3 WR BEFORE HIS FIRST NFL SNAP He is already returning punts. Quinn has looked like a rising star? It's preseason and he hasn't played against any first or second string defenses yet.

B. Booker will be the third down back this year, not a wasted pick.

C. He is not trying to demoralize Brown, he is trying to motivate him.
Right on!Not to mention the fact that John Beck has looked every bit as good as Quinn has so far in their very short careers defined by playing in preseason games against guys who will be bagging their groceries in a few weeks. They got Beck in the 2nd round instead of 9th overall.

How can there even be a worst coach of 2007 when 2007 has not even started yet. This thread should be blown up.
cmon! I disagree. I am going to give him a shot during regular season, but all his moves thus far make me scratch my head. He can't be putting R. Brown on kick returns, that is just not a smart move. I am a PSU fan and know how good Ginn is in that role, get him there. If anything put Booker back there. Booker is not a sure fire bet to be third down back. Listen to his press conference from Tues. Cam said he will play the "F" position, he will play some wideout and do some things there to help the club, and then he ends it by saying he may even play some RB. So I don't think that says he is a sure bet to be the third down back. He actually acted like Cobbs would be, for whatever reason. Chatman is not a starting back in the NFL, Ronnie Brown is a three down back, and hopefully he plays that role. I hope Cam does motivate him a bit, but Ronnie still needs to step up, but make no mistake about it, he is the Miami Offense!
So what do you disagree with from my post? Your points are valid, but they are not counter-points to anything that I posted, unless you actually think that it is fair to call Cam the worst coach of 2007 before week 1.I am a Fins homer, and I can tell you that you may wind up hating Cam, but it is very possible that it will not be due to his ability to coach. It will be his ability to piss off the FFG community with his "coach-speak". My advice is to trust very little that he says as the basis for fantasy decisions. He seems to be a graduate of the "Belichek Shannahan School of BS" when it comes to the media. He also plays a lot of mind games. This extends to every position on the field - not just RB. Ask his veteran Offensive Lineman who were benched early in camp for 2 rookies.

Regarding the move to put RB back on kickoffs, it has been covered a few times already, but since I spend a large portion of my time on the Fins message boards I will again share what the general opinions are.

1. Cam wants to see how RB runs in space (with room to move). Kick returns are a good way to see that. He is not concerned with Ginn getting time at KR in the preseason. It is not rocket science, and he has returned a few kicks in his time.

2. Kick returner gets grouped with punt returner when people talk about injury risk. The fact is, kick returner is not even close to the same risk as punt returner. A kick return is very comparable to taking a pass in the flats and turning upfield with it.

3. Cam feels that based upon what he has seen, RB needs a few hits before he gets "into the game". The kick return gives him that first hit.

4. He may choose to use RB on situational KRs - when a big play is needed. He may be back there with Ginn, and he wants RB to get some reps in case he needs him for this. He has been very good so far as a KR, averaging around 29 yards per.

There is certainly a counter argument for all of this - I am simply posting speculation. What I do admire about Cam personally is that he doesnt care about what is "normally" done - he is doing things the way he thinks they should be done. He is not an idiot, as evidenced by the incredible success he had in SD. He has to get a lot of that credit, since the HC clearly did not. He deserves a season before we call him the worst coach in the NFL just becuase he is straying from the norm .

 
Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
I'm curious why you say that. I can see why Gibbs would have a lot of work ahead of him cleaning up after a Spurrier, where the entire system needs to be scrapped and start anew with a LOT of new players and teaching completely different schemes but Cameron inherited a very good defense and if he's the offensive guru he's made out to be(and I believe he is) he should be able to turn that franchise around relatively quickly. Typically I think it's bad form to criticize a coach after just one season but in this instance I'd expect him to have this team headed the right direction by the end of this year. IMO 8-8 is probable but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they finish above .500 this season. MIA is a much better situation than MIN was last season.
 
Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
I'm curious why you say that. I can see why Gibbs would have a lot of work ahead of him cleaning up after a Spurrier, where the entire system needs to be scrapped and start anew with a LOT of new players and teaching completely different schemes but Cameron inherited a very good defense and if he's the offensive guru he's made out to be(and I believe he is) he should be able to turn that franchise around relatively quickly. Typically I think it's bad form to criticize a coach after just one season but in this instance I'd expect him to have this team headed the right direction by the end of this year. IMO 8-8 is probable but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they finish above .500 this season. MIA is a much better situation than MIN was last season.
Saban left the Fins in a very unenviable position. It appears as though they wasted their first round pick last year (11th overall) on Jason Allen, who would not even make the team if not for the financial committment. They gave up an early 2nd round pick for Culpepper (when they could have had Brees for free). Saban did nothing to address the horrendous offensive line. Last year's draft got them 1 player who even has a chance to make an impact, and that is Derek Hagan who appears to have been demoted to their 4th WR this season. The D is still real good, but it is not terribly young. Those problems will become evident in about 2 years unless Cam dedicates himself to drafting for D, at the expense of his floundering offense.To Fins fans, there is no Saban - there is only Satan.
 
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Actually, Brady Quinn played against the Broncos first string defense last game and looked good doing it.Can you imagne picking up the pieces left by Saban? Cameron & Co. might have the hardest job of anyone in the league ahead of them. Similar to Childress & Co. when they took over in Minnesota last year.
And Saban was trying to pick up the pieces left by the horrific Wannstadt/Spielman regime. Saban really just made one disastrous move compared to that bottomless well of incompetence but the Culpepper/Brees fiasco might well be the worst in franchise history. Anyway, like others have said, preseason's a bit early to say Cameron's a failure. It will probably take a few years before we can render an informed verdict on the Ginn/Quinn deicison.
 
Yeah, I see what you are saying but plenty of teams have a 1st rounder that doesn't pan out or is injured. And the defense isn't young but in two years(if MIA doesn't panic and pull the plug on Cameron) I'm willing to be MIA will have a much better offense than they do now to help compensate for that fact. I just think there are plenty of coaches that don't feel sorry for an offensive guru walking into a situation where he's got a top 5 defense and several young offensive skill players that were very high picks in the draft to work with.

 
I get the feeling that they held Ginn back a bit in preseason, and he's going to start out with a bang on opening day..

and whether you like or dislike Ronnie Brown, the dude has done well with what he has to work with.He's averaging 4.3 per pop in his brief NFL career, behind some of the worst O-lines to come down the pike in quite some time. Add to that, the Harrington Experiment, the Culpepper Renaissance , and you can see why we should cut RB some slack, its not like he has had superb QB play the past few seasons..He's performing,the team around him,isn't. But I think Cam is going to run RB into the ground this season. If they have Chambers on the block, it just means RB is about to become the focal point of the offense, ala LT in SD. RB will likely catch 50+ balls in 2007..dumpoffs to the RB are a QB's best friend..he's going to get a lot of them, I'm sure..and Ginn is going to keep defenses honest, because no one can cover the guy with his speed..

I know people want to bury the Fish this season, but I think they might surprise a few teams along the way..and I think they've been sneaky about Ginn and RB in preseason.BOTH might go nuts on opening day..

 
I love when someone starts a thread....then is totally proven wrong in the first response.....and then doesnt return or make a follow up post. :yawn:

:lostallrespect:

 
I said it last year: The Dolphins are the Detroit Lions South

I guess I may have to change that: The Dolphins are the new Detroit Lions.

They make bad personnel decisions, they have bad luck, they look lost at times, and they have not made the moves to correct the problem. This is way beyond Cam Cameron who just took over this mess, it has been going on for about for years now. When was the Dan Marino GM stuff happening? That's when this franchise went from slidding to :thumbup:

I don't see how Cameron can be held accountable at this point.

Signed,

Neutral observer

 
I have to disagree - At least Cameron has some upside. Tom Coughlin is totally buried right now, that defense has quit on him...

 
Anyone starting to come around on this issue yet ?
yes, Moz. youre are looking like an early armchair QB of the Year front runner at this point. How a young/new coach gets out of the gate can tell the tale of the season. So far, it 'aint lookin' good.f
 
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Maybe there is a LT they are like in next year's draft and they are already trying to position themselves.

"Ronnie, we're giving 11 carries this year so we can give you 22 next year. Don't worry about it, let this Chatman scrub take the pounding".

 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
It's obvious you have little to no clue but here goes anyway.A. His name is spelled Ginn. He has already passed Hagan on the depth chart for #3 WR BEFORE HIS FIRST NFL SNAP He is already returning punts. Quinn has looked like a rising star? It's preseason and he hasn't played against any first or second string defenses yet.

B. Booker will be the third down back this year, not a wasted pick.

C. He is not trying to demoralize Brown, he is trying to motivate him.
Right on!Not to mention the fact that John Beck has looked every bit as good as Quinn has so far in their very short careers defined by playing in preseason games against guys who will be bagging their groceries in a few weeks. They got Beck in the 2nd round instead of 9th overall.

How can there even be a worst coach of 2007 when 2007 has not even started yet. This thread should be blown up.
Right on ..AHAHHAHAHAHAHHhahahahahHAHAHHAHAHAHaHHAH.He is not trying to motivate Brown , he did nt need this kind of motivation the guy already had two great seasons ( Considering he did it with the worst team in the NFL at OL and QB )

Ginn in the first round when you desperatly need help at OL is one of the worst pick in history .

Cameron is a coach on a power trip whos destroying a team that was nt the greatest but at least had a legit chance at the playoff.

Man this is a real joke if you think this guy is a good coach .

 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss !

A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOW

B. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.

C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league !

What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
It's obvious you have little to no clue but here goes anyway.A. His name is spelled Ginn. He has already passed Hagan on the depth chart for #3 WR BEFORE HIS FIRST NFL SNAP He is already returning punts. Quinn has looked like a rising star? It's preseason and he hasn't played against any first or second string defenses yet.

B. Booker will be the third down back this year, not a wasted pick.

C. He is not trying to demoralize Brown, he is trying to motivate him.
Right on!Not to mention the fact that John Beck has looked every bit as good as Quinn has so far in their very short careers defined by playing in preseason games against guys who will be bagging their groceries in a few weeks. They got Beck in the 2nd round instead of 9th overall.

How can there even be a worst coach of 2007 when 2007 has not even started yet. This thread should be blown up.
Right on ..AHAHHAHAHAHAHHhahahahahHAHAHHAHAHAHaHHAH.He is not trying to motivate Brown , he did nt need this kind of motivation the guy already had two great seasons ( Considering he did it with the worst team in the NFL at OL and QB )

Ginn in the first round when you desperatly need help at OL is one of the worst pick in history .

Cameron is a coach on a power trip whos destroying a team that was nt the greatest but at least had a legit chance at the playoff.

Man this is a real joke if you think this guy is a good coach .
That post came on August 30 before the season even started. I reserve the right to change my mind at any time.
 
The Moz definitely saw this coming before I did. Otherwise I wouldn't be stuck watching the MIA games waiting and waiting and waiting for Ronnie to get some cariies and involved in the offense. I could not care less how many games the Dolphins win, but as long as Cam is hurting Ronnies value, I am glad he is taking some (bad)losses with it.

 
LOL

San Diego is falling ( a little there still damn good ) becasue the Powers that Be in SD fired a coach that had the best regular season last season and who was/is 10X the HC that Norv will ever be. I mean Damn Norv has failed everywhere - Schotty has excelled everywhere !

Cam If anything lost them the Playoff game by his awful play calling.

To point at Hand

Ginn taken at 1.10 -- The guy is at best a 2nd round talent. P. Willis , Quinn would have been great choices - or even trade trade down to stack up the oline with multiple picks. One of the worst picks I have seen in a while.

R. Brown is a damn good runner - and Cam instead of building him up and centering the offense around him -- he gives him a big groin shot and puts him in a full RBBC with Chatman - a guy too fat to play for 2 years !

Picking Booker in round 4 - Guy won't see the field !

Miami Picked the wrong former Charger to hire ! Shoulda hired schotty !

 
LOLSan Diego is falling ( a little there still damn good ) becasue the Powers that Be in SD fired a coach that had the best regular season last season and who was/is 10X the HC that Norv will ever be. I mean Damn Norv has failed everywhere - Schotty has excelled everywhere ! Cam If anything lost them the Playoff game by his awful play calling. To point at HandGinn taken at 1.10 -- The guy is at best a 2nd round talent. P. Willis , Quinn would have been great choices - or even trade trade down to stack up the oline with multiple picks. One of the worst picks I have seen in a while.R. Brown is a damn good runner - and Cam instead of building him up and centering the offense around him -- he gives him a big groin shot and puts him in a full RBBC with Chatman - a guy too fat to play for 2 years ! Picking Booker in round 4 - Guy won't see the field ! Miami Picked the wrong former Charger to hire ! Shoulda hired schotty !
This post makes too much sense to me. There has to be some smoking mirrors that the Cam appologists can clear up for me.
 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss ! A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOWB. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league ! What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
:stirspot: He's the worst coach not named Norv
 
Seriously what is this guy doing as a head coach ? Miami should have hired Shotty Cam's old Boss ! A. Drafts Jinn in 1st round - a player he already knew had zero chance of being anyhting more than 3rd wr but more likley 4th behind Hagan. So People thought he would be the Special teams guy who return kicks and be another Devin Hester. Genius Cam has Ronnie Brown doing return Duties ! They pass on Quinn who at least so far has looked like a rsing star QB when he gets a chance and a player who could have made an instant impact like a top defender. WOWB. Drafts Booker in the 4th and it looks like he won't ever even see the field another totally wasted Pick.C. Trying to demoralize his only real offensive star in Ronnie Brown having him return kicks and telling him he might be the #2 back behind a guy who hasn't played in 2 years becasue he ate himself out of the league ! What is with this guy. Is Miami trying to move the team to a different city and Cam was brought in to make them as bad as possible ?
:stirspot: He's the worst coach not named Norv
Jack Del Rio?John Gruden?Herm Edwards?
 
Doctor Detroit said:
When was the Dan Marino GM stuff happening? That's when this franchise went from slidding to :thumbup:
:thumbup: for Dan to walk into the organization, take a look around, and then turn right around and head back to his old job is very telling.Folks blasted Moz way too much - Cameron sux.
 
Doctor Detroit said:
When was the Dan Marino GM stuff happening? That's when this franchise went from slidding to :thumbup:
:thumbup: for Dan to walk into the organization, take a look around, and then turn right around and head back to his old job is very telling.Folks blasted Moz way too much - Cameron sux.
NO! LEAVE CAMERON ALONE! :thumbup:

:: stomps up the stairs, crying ::

:: slams bedroom door ::

:: cries louder to be sure you hear it ::

 
Ginn taken at 1.10 -- The guy is at best a 2nd round talent. P. Willis , Quinn would have been great choices - or even trade trade down to stack up the oline with multiple picks. One of the worst picks I have seen in a while.R. Brown is a damn good runner - and Cam instead of building him up and centering the offense around him -- he gives him a big groin shot and puts him in a full RBBC with Chatman - a guy too fat to play for 2 years ! Picking Booker in round 4 - Guy won't see the field !
You see a lot in Ronnie Brown that most of us don't - and while the OL sux like it does, I'd rather see Chatman taking hits than Ronnie. Ron is best on an offense where there is a second runner and where he is free to catch the ball.Booker won't see the field much until later in the year. If he was expected to take the field on day one, he'd have been taken earlier than the 4th. Chatman probably will be relegated to a vets role next year and Brown and Booker will have primary duties. You need three backs in this league.
 
Ginn taken at 1.10 -- The guy is at best a 2nd round talent. P. Willis , Quinn would have been great choices - or even trade trade down to stack up the oline with multiple picks. One of the worst picks I have seen in a while.R. Brown is a damn good runner - and Cam instead of building him up and centering the offense around him -- he gives him a big groin shot and puts him in a full RBBC with Chatman - a guy too fat to play for 2 years ! Picking Booker in round 4 - Guy won't see the field !
You see a lot in Ronnie Brown that most of us don't - and while the OL sux like it does, I'd rather see Chatman taking hits than Ronnie. Ron is best on an offense where there is a second runner and where he is free to catch the ball.Booker won't see the field much until later in the year. If he was expected to take the field on day one, he'd have been taken earlier than the 4th. Chatman probably will be relegated to a vets role next year and Brown and Booker will have primary duties. You need three backs in this league.
Booker was drafted early in the 3rd round. 71st overall. No clue why he is not worthy of 3rd down or kick return duties. The Fins fans on the homer forums have no clue either. He didnt even get any PT in the preseason.
 
Ginn taken at 1.10 -- The guy is at best a 2nd round talent. P. Willis , Quinn would have been great choices - or even trade trade down to stack up the oline with multiple picks. One of the worst picks I have seen in a while.R. Brown is a damn good runner - and Cam instead of building him up and centering the offense around him -- he gives him a big groin shot and puts him in a full RBBC with Chatman - a guy too fat to play for 2 years ! Picking Booker in round 4 - Guy won't see the field !
You see a lot in Ronnie Brown that most of us don't - and while the OL sux like it does, I'd rather see Chatman taking hits than Ronnie. Ron is best on an offense where there is a second runner and where he is free to catch the ball.Booker won't see the field much until later in the year. If he was expected to take the field on day one, he'd have been taken earlier than the 4th. Chatman probably will be relegated to a vets role next year and Brown and Booker will have primary duties. You need three backs in this league.
Booker was drafted early in the 3rd round. 71st overall. No clue why he is not worthy of 3rd down or kick return duties. The Fins fans on the homer forums have no clue either. He didnt even get any PT in the preseason.
When you have Ginn and a pass catching back like Brown, Booker won't see the field until much later in the year. 3rd down back better know how to pick up the blitzer and be the hot read. He needs to continue learning before he sees the field.
 
GordonGekko said:
Cameron pays and will continue to pay for not drafting Brady Quinn. Whether he deserves the backlash remains to be seen. Quinn could tear it up or Quinn could join his Browns brethren as yet another torn up knee injury waiting to happen. Guy has balls, thats for sure. People are still waiting though to see if he's keeping them in a glass jar or not. I'll give Cam Cameron a full season before I judge the kind of job he is doing. He's a new coach, it's got a learning curve to it. May he rest in peace, but during Bill Walsh's first season as a head coach, I watched some of those games and he looked way over matched at times. But everyone has to start somewhere. Not saying Cameron is the next Walsh, I'm just saying give the guy a chance to build a solid pattern of his strengths and weaknesses before everyone starts throwing stones at the guy.
:goodposting: People forget, but Joe Gibbs started his head coaching career 0-5 in 1981. It happens.
 

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